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I can't think of a name
07-08-2009, 09:44 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/07/obama-appoints-friends-in-high-places/print/


Fundraisers win jobs as Obama envoys

President Obama's campaign to bring change to the nation's capital hasn't kept him from continuing the Washington tradition of handing out ambassadorships to political friends and fundraisers.
An old college roommate, the head of an entertainment production company and a lawyer whose family made its money selling vacuum cleaners are among more than a dozen people who have won ambassadorships after raising a total of at least $4 million for Mr. Obama's presidential campaign, according to public records.
The practice has been common for both political parties.
Since the Kennedy administration, presidents have given political appointees about 30 percent of the roughly 170 ambassadorships globally. While analysts say it's too early to say how Mr. Obama's administration will compare, government watchdog groups contend that the practice seems at odds with the president's populist rhetoric against "special interests."


"Awarding ambassadorships and other government posts to major campaign donors highlights the systematic corruption in privately financed campaigns," said Craig Holman, a spokesman for Public Citizen, a nonpartisan campaign finance watchdog group. "It is reprehensible that any government positions in the United States are awarded based on money rather than merit."
Mary Boyle, spokeswoman for Common Cause, another watchdog group, said, "The reality is big givers expect something back, and candidates typically reward big givers."
White House spokesman Tommy Vietor said Mr. Obama's nominees are qualified.
"The president said in January he would nominate extremely qualified individuals like [John] Roos, former Congressman Tim Roemer and Miguel Diaz, who didn't necessarily come up through the ranks of the State Department but want to serve their country in important diplomatic posts," he said in a June 30 e-mail.
Mr. Roos, a lawyer, is the nominee for ambassador to Japan. Mr. Roemer was nominated to be ambassador in India. Mr. Diaz, a theology professor at St. John's University, was nominated as ambassador to the Vatican. All three are political appointments, but only Mr. Roos was a fundraiser for Mr. Obama.
Asked whether appointing fundraisers to ambassadorships squares with Mr. Obama's pledge to bring change to Washington, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters that the president is appointing a mix of qualified people.
"I think you see a group of committed individuals and proven professionals that are eager to serve their country," Mr. Gibbs said. "Some of those individuals were fundraisers; some of those were career ambassadors; some of those were people that left either teaching or some other thing like that."
Before his inauguration, Mr. Obama told reporters he planned to have "some political appointees serving abroad."
"It would be disingenuous for me to suggest that there are not going to be some excellent public servants, but who haven't come through the ranks of civil service," he said.
Nominees raised millions
Ambassadorial nominees contacted by The Washington Times said they could not comment specifically on any criticism that their nominations were based on their fundraising or political support.
Courtney Dorman, a spokeswoman for Mr. Roos, said, "As you can imagine, John is deeply honored by the president's intention to name him U.S. ambassador to Japan, and he looks forward to the confirmation process."
Mr. Roos, chief executive of the Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati law firm, raised at least $500,000 for Mr. Obama's campaign. After the Roos nomination, the Nikkei Weekly in Japan called him "an unknown quantity" who "apparently has few close friends or important friends in Japan."
Describing Mr. Roos as a "staunch Democrat," the paper also said he was "a major fundraiser for Obama's presidential campaign and is clearly part of the president's human network."
If confirmed, Mr. Roos would replace Tom Schieffer, appointed by President Bush in 2005. Mr. Schieffer was part of an investment group including Mr. Bush that bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in 1989.
Among other big fundraisers, Mr. Obama's recent nominations include:
c Laurie Fulton, a lawyer who raised at least $100,000 for Mr. Obama, to be ambassador to Denmark.
c Louis Susman, a former bank executive and prominent Democratic donor who raised at least $200,001, for the United Kingdom.
c Charles Rivkin, who recently resigned as chief executive and president of W!ldbrain, an entertainment production company, and who raised at least $500,000, for France.
c Vinai Thummalapally, a roommate of Mr. Obama's at Occidental College who raised between $100,000 and $200,000, for Belize.
c Bruce Oreck, a lawyer who raised at least $500,000 and worked at his family's business, the Oreck Corp., seller of Oreck vacuum cleaners, until the company was sold in 2003. He has been nominated for ambassador to Finland.
Altogether, Mr. Obama's ambassador nominees and their families raised at least $4 million for Mr. Obama's presidential run and another $1.6 million for his inauguration, according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. One notable exception was Mr. Obama's pick for ambassador to China - former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr., a Republican who raised funds for Sen. John McCain's 2008 presidential run against Mr. Obama.
Only in America
According to the Foreign Service Act of 1980, "contributions to political campaigns should not be a factor" in the appointment of ambassadors.
The American Foreign Service Association, which represents career foreign service workers, cites the act in asking Mr. Obama to reduce the percentage of political appointees in the diplomatic ranks from 30 percent to 10 percent.
"That would allow a select number of distinguished citizens to go out as envoys, while ending the unchecked spoils system under which scores of political activists are tapped for critical national security positions for which they are unqualified," association spokesman Tom Switzer said.
The organization has been concerned about the appointments for years. In a 2006 article for the association's newsletter, the group's acting president, Steve Kashkett, called the practice an example of "the great American patronage system."
In a report called "Checkbook Diplomacy," the Center for Public Integrity traced the practice of presidents sending political supporters overseas all the way back to Andrew Jackson in the 1830s.
While noting that many excellent ambassadors have been among the political appointees, the center found abuses as well. The center quoted President Nixon as saying, "My point is that anybody who wants to be an ambassador must give at least $250,000. ... The contributors have to be, I mean, a big thing."

I also hear Hillary is filling out the State department with political appointees that worked on her campaign :roll: She is putting civil service people out on the street for her crew that blew $100 million half way through the primary.

Fat Lazy American
07-08-2009, 09:49 PM
I also hear Hillary is filling out the State department with political appointees that worked on her campaign :roll: She is putting civil service people out on the street for her crew that blew $100 million half way through the primary.

Is AFGE aware that its members are being thrown out on the street?

Or, you know, is that part just BS you made up?

I can't think of a name
07-08-2009, 10:48 PM
Is AFGE aware that its members are being thrown out on the street?

Or, you know, is that part just BS you made up?

I am sure they can find jobs, however it is true that Hillary is moving in her loyalists in appointment positions that were previously filled by career civil service types (like how an ambassador can be filled by a career diplomat OR with the types Obama is putting in place).

Thing is that it trickles down. You put someone new as the head of an office they can fire everyone and then practice their own patronage by bringing in lower level people into the civil service.

Panchito12
07-09-2009, 01:01 AM
I am sure they can find jobs, however it is true that Hillary is moving in her loyalists in appointment positions that were previously filled by career civil service types (like how an ambassador can be filled by a career diplomat OR with the types Obama is putting in place).

Thing is that it trickles down. You put someone new as the head of an office they can fire everyone and then practice their own patronage by bringing in lower level people into the civil service.

Welcome to DC. That's how we do things here!p-)

Laconian
07-09-2009, 09:04 AM
I am sure they can find jobs, however it is true that Hillary is moving in her loyalists in appointment positions that were previously filled by career civil service types (like how an ambassador can be filled by a career diplomat OR with the types Obama is putting in place).

Thing is that it trickles down. You put someone new as the head of an office they can fire everyone and then practice their own patronage by bringing in lower level people into the civil service.

I disagree. As a Federal supervisor, I have a hard enough time disciplining, let alone firing, a government employee for cause, let alone just because I've got some political favors to pay out.

The government unions and associations would have a field day with this.

brainplay
07-09-2009, 09:27 AM
I disagree. As a Federal supervisor, I have a hard enough time disciplining, let alone firing, a government employee for cause, let alone just because I've got some political favors to pay out.

The government unions and associations would have a field day with this.

You guys don't have an "at will" policy? That is an utter surprise but then you said the "U" word which now makes sense.

Down here in Texas, State employees can be dropped "for cause" quickly. The union's encourage supervisors to ask for a resignation first but they can't do more than that.

California Joe
07-09-2009, 12:17 PM
Federal GS employees have a strong union. Laconian is right. I'm sure he's been forced to sit through endless hours of powerpoint classes on the subject. :)

The only time I've seen it done with relative swiftness is in cases where you need a certain clearance level like TS/SCI just to enter the building, and if they pull that you're done. Even then it takes months...

As far as nepotism, is this somehow news that a politician does what every other politician has done? Please. He's from Chicago for chrissakes.

okiebugg
07-09-2009, 12:29 PM
Why am I not surprised at Nobamas actions?

This is the very reason that the masses should learn not to listen to campaign rhetoric.

Easy for me to say

Connaught Ranger
07-09-2009, 01:05 PM
and a lawyer whose family made its money selling vacuum cleaners:cantbeli:

King of Washington blow jobs rofl rofl

hell
07-09-2009, 02:18 PM
As lax as the big three news agencies in the US have been in critical reports on Obama's administration (compared to how they hounded every little thing in W's admin.), I'll be interested in seeing what degree of attention is focused on one of his apointees when they botch something on a massive, public scale (Think Mr. Brown and FEMA).

Flagg
07-09-2009, 03:21 PM
I don't think President Obama deserves to be singled out for this political corruption.....although he'd certainly earn my vote if he smashed it with a big hammer...which isn't likely to happen.

I can't imagine how much it must suck to be a successful senior civil servant professional...jumping through every hoop known to government AND still managing to get the job done....only to be rewarded with having to "manage up" a deep pocketed village idiot.

Surely there must be a handbook somewhere entitled:

"How to prevent a political appointee from causing irreparable harm to the United States."

deagle
07-09-2009, 05:50 PM
ehhh, i still think we're better off if there was a different president.

Laconian
07-09-2009, 06:22 PM
Surely there must be a handbook somewhere entitled:

"How to prevent a political appointee from causing irreparable harm to the United States."

There is. Unfortunately it is on back order.

gaijinsamurai
07-09-2009, 06:34 PM
Traditionally, a percentage of ambassadorships have gone to the new president's donors and other acquaintances. This is the way it has always been, under every administration in the Post-WWII era.

There are plenty of things to rightly criticize Obama for, but this is frivilous.

11 Bravo
07-09-2009, 06:43 PM
The more things change the more they remain the same...... quote seems appropriate here.

California Joe
07-09-2009, 06:45 PM
The more things change the more they remain the same...... quote seems appropriate here.

I figure that anyone who didn't understand that is an idiot. Politicians are politicians.

If Jesus was President you can bet the 12 Apostles would all be getting plumb assignments.

Laconian
07-09-2009, 06:48 PM
I figure that anyone who didn't understand that is an idiot. Politicians are politicians.

If Jesus was President you can bet the 12 Apostles would all be getting plumb assignments.

Probably only 11 would get choice slots.

California Joe
07-09-2009, 06:49 PM
I knew you'd say that. rofl

Judas = what? FEMA? :)

Laconian
07-09-2009, 06:58 PM
I was thinking something along the lines of US Ambassador to UNICEF. But FEMA would suck too.

Flagg
07-09-2009, 07:32 PM
If I were single, I'd want to be Ambassador to Thailand.

The food and the women are hot.

Do you think you have to pay, I mean donate, extra to get a place with good food and hot women?

What does the stingiest donor get, Albania?

Or do those plum locations go to the people who work for a living?

Winger
07-09-2009, 07:34 PM
If I were single, I'd want to be Ambassador to Thailand.

The food and the women are hot.

Do you think you have to pay, I mean donate, extra to get a place with good food and hot women?

What does the stingiest donor get, Albania?

Or do those plum locations go to the people who work for a living?

You are either owed a major favor or you have to own a set of seriously tough kneepads.

Flagg
07-09-2009, 07:45 PM
You are either owed a major favor or you have to own a set of seriously tough kneepads.

I could imagine that the big ones that you can't afford to fcuk up like China, Japan, Russia, UK, France, Germany, Saudi, Israel, Australia, Brazil, and India would be some places to send your Pro Bowlers.

I'd be thinking a good chunk of the rest that sound appealing would be up for grabs for the village idiot donors with deep pockets and lots of handlers and tech support from State Dept.

An Ambassadorship to Thailand for a quarter million sounds like a bargain.......I can drink that much back in Bombay Sapphire Martinis in half an administration. Although if there are restrictions on fraternizing with the locals it would be a deal killer...that would be like getting a Tonka Toy but not being allowed to take it out of the box.

Winger
07-09-2009, 08:34 PM
I could imagine that the big ones that you can't afford to fcuk up like China, Japan, Russia, UK, France, Germany, Saudi, Israel, Australia, Brazil, and India would be some places to send your Pro Bowlers.

I'd be thinking a good chunk of the rest that sound appealing would be up for grabs for the village idiot donors with deep pockets and lots of handlers and tech support from State Dept.

An Ambassadorship to Thailand for a quarter million sounds like a bargain.......I can drink that much back in Bombay Sapphire Martinis in half an administration. Although if there are restrictions on fraternizing with the locals it would be a deal killer...that would be like getting a Tonka Toy but not being allowed to take it out of the box.

That would be sweet. I would take the ambassadorship to Spain as long as my embassy could be moved from Madrid to Ibiza. I haven't seen that many hot looking girls from so many different European nations in one place anywhere else.

Brasil would also be sweet as well.

Panchito12
07-10-2009, 01:16 AM
That would be sweet. I would take the ambassadorship to Spain as long as my embassy could be moved from Madrid to Ibiza. I haven't seen that many hot looking girls from so many different European nations in one place anywhere else.

Brasil would also be sweet as well.

Clearly you have not lived in Madrid.:cantbeli:

Winger
07-10-2009, 01:22 AM
Clearly you have not lived in Madrid.:cantbeli:

The whole no beach thing would be a deal killer. ;)

XShipRider
07-10-2009, 06:43 AM
Ah, the ever-present AFGE... corrupt as corrupt can be without oversight of any kind.

President Obama said something about 'transparency' during his campaign days but that has yet to materialize. Unless we're talking about the former administration, then he's been all about transparency.

Not surprising on the appointments. Washington has a way of molding the people who live there not the other way around.