SA80 grenade launcher in field

[big_les]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40134000/jpg/_40134147_basra3_afp203.jpg

So is this basically an AG-36 or something entirely different?

[REMOV]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40134000/jpg/_40134147_basra3_afp203.jpg
So is this basically an AG-36 or something entirely different?
It's exactly H&K AG-36 ;)

http://www.gun-world.net/Britain/sa80/ag36.jpg
http://www.gun-world.net/H&K/ag-c/3cdo.jpg
http://www.gun-world.net/H&K/ag-c/captured_wpns.jpg

[gary-amsterdam]

mmm, almost makes me horny.

[el_kab0ng]

I sure hope you're referring to the pile of weapons and not the big burly British soldier guy...

:slap: :lol:

[gary-amsterdam]

I sure hope you're referring to the pile of weapons and not the big burly British soldier guy...

:slap: :lol:

no, the little children p-) rofl :roll:

[ZeroPositive]

nice pics, the SA80 :)
Hope the bugs have been fixed.

[DPGLAW]

that grenade launcher seems much better than the M203 we use. patricularly the side-load launcher, which, I believe is the same model which we decided on using for the XM-8?? correct me if im wrong on that. Overall though it seems like a great product for the troops and I hope that it works out as well for them as it looks like it will....

Can someone do me a favor and tell me what the problems with the Brits SA-80 are as I do not know....thanks

[big_les]

I'm no expert, but the L85-A1 was plagued with design and build quality issues including the need for regular and thorough cleaning. Our A2s have been reworked by HK (hence the AG-36 presumably?) and don't suffer from particulate and general muck penetration so badly and I think, have been reinforced where the stamped receiver had been vulnerable to dings that could affect operation. The light MG version L86 seems to be especially well thought of as it retains the high accuracy of the L85 but with a longer heavier barrel. With the SUSAT sight this gives it a kind of impromptu designated marksman type application.

Straying off topic, doesn't the L85 with AG36 look like the Aliens pulse rifle?! They used prop SA80s as set dressers in the movie due to a tight budget as they looked very vaguely similar and futuristic. With the AG36 its like a bullpup rework of the M41a. I'm such a geek *sigh*

[haze99]

has an appearance to the XM-148 from the late 1960's.

[ZeroPositive]

another problem with the SA80s first version, mags fell out when u ran, if you dropped it the thing fell to bits and it jammed like a mofo....
We have to send it to HK to get it sorted I am ashamed to be a Brit...

Hi I am British and I am err used to disappointment...
U hear about our Chinnooks.... can't use them in poor weather or too much cloud... ffs that is like 8 months of the year us Brits have a hard time using our helos...

[Micke]

About time the poms got a under-barrel GL. And it looks cool too! :)


has an appearance to the XM-148 from the late 1960's.
Err, you reckon???

AG36:
http://www.hksystems.com.au/images/millaw/rifles/bigag36a.jpg

XM-148:
http://dboy.cpgl.net/USA/M16/xm148a.jpg

They dont look much alike at all if you ask me.

[ZeroPositive]

OMG the are both Tubes I see the link....

[ShadowNeo]

Hi I am British and I am err used to disappointment...
U hear about our Chinnooks.... can't use them in poor weather or too much cloud... ffs that is like 8 months of the year us Brits have a hard time using our helos...

A dissapointment yes, but its not the whole fleet that has such problems like you seem to make out, its what, 6 or so of the new spec ones that weren't going to be used for the same things as our current fleet.

[mmackem]

we have to send it to HK to get it sorted I am ashamed to be a Brit...


Not a lot of people know this.

We sent it to H&K to get it fixed because the SA-80A1 was a H&K weapon, if something does not work you send it back to the manufacturer.

From 1987 to 2002 H&K was a British owned company it was owned by Royal Ordnance(which in turn was owned by BAE Systems). RO and H&K had been manufacturing the SA-80 for years.

It did not work so we sent it back to RO/H&K to get it fixed. It had nothing to do with H&K's reputation. The work was carried out by them because they were a British company and they made the damn thing. :)

[Chris1]

another problem with the SA80s first version, mags fell out when u ran, if you dropped it the thing fell to bits and it jammed like a mofo....

"mags fell out when u ran"
Sorted at least a decade ago
"if you dropped it the thing fell to bits"
Dropping any rifle from a suffcient height will damage it. They are not items that people "drop" unless they are dropping with it, with lead poisoning.
For the SA80
Problems would be the area around the bolt carrier and the magazine well.
Easy solution
Don't drop the **** ing thing.
Saw it happen with the magazine well heard of it happening around the bolt carrier (just like the one about replacing 432 with something good, Saxon with a ice cream van etc)
It would only fall to bits if the pins were faulty, in which case it is an issue with the Armourer, not the rifle.
"jammed like a mofo"
Back it up.
Mean rounds between failures please.