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josh21x
07-12-2009, 02:54 AM
Pak offers US deal with Taliban if it reins in India
IANS
Published on Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:48, Updated on Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 13:34 in World section

Washington: Pakistan's military has offered to play a broker between the US and the Taliban, but in return it wants concessions from Washington over Islamabad's concerns with India, according to CNN.

Pakistan military spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas said in an interview with the news channel that Pakistan's military was not only in contact with Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar but that it can bring him and other commanders to the negotiating table with the US.

The acknowledgment of on-going communication with Taliban forces using sanctuary in Pakistan to launch military strikes against US troops in neighbouring Afghanistan is part of a new diplomatic overture to help the Obama administration find an end to the long-running conflict, CNN said.

But Abbas told the channel that in return for any role as a broker between the US and the Taliban, Pakistan wants concessions from Washington over Islamabad's concerns with longtime rival India.

CNN said senior US officials had told it that the Obama administration is willing both to talk to top Taliban leaders and to raise some of Pakistan's concerns with India.

With NATO's Afghan force commanders conceding the military fight against the Taliban in key areas of Afghanistan is at a "stalemate" and that a recent influx of American combat troops is hoped to break the deadlock, the consensus among military and diplomatic figures in the region is that the US cannot win the war in Afghanistan militarily.

Most believe a resolution to the conflict will ultimately be a political, and economic, one rather than a military victory that will necessitate negotiations with the Taliban, the channel said.

Such a resolution will have to be struck with the involvement of Pakistan, India, Iran and possibly Saudi Arabia, as well as NATO and the US, CNN said.

And with the Pakistan military, with its intelligence service, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) directorate, now going public with its offer to act as broker to help initiate talks, this could be the first opportunity for a breakthrough in ending the Afghan war that began with the US invasion in 2001, it said.

Abbas told CNN after its "very intense relationship" with militants during the fighters' alliance with the US during the Soviet war in Afghanistan, the Pakistan military is now still in contact with Taliban commanders such as Mullah Omar, Jalalladin Haqqani, Mullah Nazir and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, leader of the militant Hizb-e-Islami group.

"That's right, the ISI was in the forefront of the whole struggle against the Soviets. Now, maintaining the contacts with the organisations (like Mullah Omar's Taliban and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar) doesn't mean that that state policy is (to be) providing them physical support or the funding or training," Abbas said.

After the 9/11 attacks Pakistani policy to support the groups did a "U-turn", he said.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/pak-offers-us-deal-with-taliban-if-it-reins-in-india/96888-2.html

josh21x
07-12-2009, 02:55 AM
An excellent idea ...

tea drinker
07-12-2009, 03:47 AM
But Abbas told the channel that in return for any role as a broker between the US and the Taliban, Pakistan wants concessions from Washington over Islamabad's concerns with longtime rival India.
For example?

Mr Gently Benevolent
07-12-2009, 03:50 AM
I think Pakistan can f*ck right off all they have done is export terror to India knowingly nurture terrorists and generally play with fire and get burned. I think Pakistan is a long way from being a failed state but they should be reined in not India.

josh21x
07-12-2009, 03:57 AM
I would expect the Americans to fall for this, as they should since this is the most easiest out of Afghanistan, Complete and dedicated Pakistani support! China has been trying to rein in India with considerable effort and success. Now with Pakistan doing it from the other side with the help of Americans, India has some tough times ahead, and I am sure they prevail over those. In geopolitics there is no concessions for being worlds largest democracy, secular, home to 1.1 billion peace loving people who view western world in favorable light. In comparison to rabid Islamist and Chicoms.

sujithkochi
07-12-2009, 06:21 AM
India has to fight its own battle - even now our political leaders have yet to know it or they pretend to be ignorant about this fact.

If Pakistan was not punished even for an act like the Mumbai attacks, what else is to be expected?

Blue_0
07-12-2009, 07:43 AM
I believe this is a repost of this:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=160819

josh21x
07-12-2009, 08:12 AM
India has to fight its own battle - even now our political leaders have yet to know it or they pretend to be ignorant about this fact.

If Pakistan was not punished even for an act like the Mumbai attacks, what else is to be expected?

Indians are giant pussies! Who will only act in a decent manner when a genocidal event or the likes is placed on them, even then they will be decent. Naive idiots!

GazB
07-12-2009, 08:29 AM
What a great ally Pakistan is. It will help the US with something the US obviously thinks is very important... in return they want the US to reduce ties with India...
So they want the greatest democracy in the world to reduce ties with the largest democracy in the world to suit... a country that claims to be a friend of the US yet has unusually good ties with an enemy of the US.

My head hurts...

ggk
07-12-2009, 08:31 AM
Indians are giant pussies! Who will only act in a decent manner when a genocidal event or the likes is placed on them, even then they will be decent. Naive idiots!

may you should refrain from writing this kind of thing.

Zoomie
07-12-2009, 08:44 AM
Indians are giant pussies! Who will only act in a decent manner when a genocidal event or the likes is placed on them, even then they will be decent. Naive idiots!
Wow, what a brilliant and well thought out argument! You've really convinced me now. :roll:

Eagle The Lightning
07-12-2009, 08:46 AM
Isn’t this a repost?

josh21x
07-12-2009, 09:14 AM
Wow, what a brilliant and well thought out argument! You've really convinced me now. :roll:

Sorry for that outburst. But our ****lessness is really hitting my morale!

josh21x
07-12-2009, 09:15 AM
Isn’t this a repost?

No, This is the Indian perspective on the matter!

KB
07-12-2009, 10:03 AM
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/pak-offers-us-deal-with-taliban-if-it-reins-in-india/96888-2.html

what an inane proposition.

raavan
07-12-2009, 10:07 AM
The past has clealry shown that America wants pakistan more not India.should see how america pressurises India?????

deagle
07-12-2009, 11:29 AM
so are they saying that they'd encourage or provide haven for taliban and AQ, if another country isn't under control ?

not a smart move

Panchito12
07-12-2009, 11:51 AM
Where does the Pakistan gov and its Taliban-supporting ISI receive their training in negotiations? A Peshawar rug merchant's bazaar???

Eagle The Lightning
07-13-2009, 06:45 AM
No, This is the Indian perspective on the matter!
Ok thanks for clearing that up for me I wasn’t to shore so I thought I would ask

Lala_Peace
07-13-2009, 07:32 AM
I don't think, India needs to get apprehensive about it. I am sure, our leadership knows how to handle the situation coming out from this development. For, some countries it is a fashion to show one's **** to solve the problem, but that has created more problem for them. I hope, that fashion is coming to an end. Indian's are passive, but very passionate when it comes to preserving its sovereignty. I don't think USA has the courage to utter a word in this connection to GOI.