PR China boycotts opening of World Games in Taiwan

[Shuimo]

Another case of sporting event being politicized?rofl

TAIPEI, Taiwan – The 100-strong Chinese delegation boycotted the opening ceremony of the World Games in Taiwan on Thursday, underscoring the limits of the historic breakthrough in relations between Taipei and Beijing.
The Chinese gesture is likely to ruffle feathers on this democratic island of 23 million people, which under President Ma Ying-jeou has moved aggressively to improve ties with the mainland, its once-bitter enemy.
While the Chinese delegation did not say immediately why it boycotted the ceremony — a comment on state-run China News Service acknowledged the presence of Chinese athletes in Taiwan, without mentioning the opening ceremony — the act is almost certainly related to Ma's role in declaring the games open.
In his opening remarks, Ma simply declared the games to have begun, without mentioning the boycott.
Taiwan and China split amid civil war in 1949 and the communist mainland still views the island as part of its territory. Because of this claim Chinese attendance at the ceremony could have been seen as lending legitimacy to Ma's presidential role. That would contradict Beijing's long-standing position that Taiwan lacks state sovereignty.
Under a hazy summer sky in the southern city of Kaohsiung, more than 3,000 athletes and staff from 105 countries and territories marched into the World Games Stadium, a new, eye-catching structure designed by renowned Japanese architect Toyo Ito.
But under the gaze of the capacity crowd of 40,000, the Chinese team was absent from the ceremony, with a single Taiwanese staff member carrying a sign marked "China," and another carrying a Chinese flag.
Some in the crowd applauded this representation of the communist colossus to the west, but many booed, in a clear sign of displeasure with the Chinese action.
The mainland's boycott stands in contradiction to the rapidly improving relations between the sides.
Since taking power 14 months ago, Ma has jettisoned his predecessor's pro-independence policies, tightening economic links with the mainland, and lowering tensions across the 100-mile- (160-kilometer-) wide Taiwan Strait to their lowest level in 60 years.
Ma believes that the two sides can nurture their friendship while putting political questions on the back burner, and has expressed consistent support for a formal peace treaty with Beijing.
Most Taiwanese support his policies, though events like the World Games boycott do not help the mainland's image on the island, which is already undermined by perceptions that it is austere and overbearing.
Taiwan invested about $220 million in the World Games, a quadrennial event featuring 21 non-Olympic sports, like sumo and rugby.
Many Taiwanese see it as a golden opportunity to stretch the limits of the island's international isolation — it is absent from bodies like the United Nations, and is recognized by only 23 countries — and do not appreciate moves to restrict its space.
In a contrary display, they broadly welcomed Beijing's acquiescence in permitting Taiwan to attend the May meeting of a U.N. health body as an observer.
Political scientist Lo Chih-cheng of Soochow University said that after the Chinese delegation's snub many Taiwanese will raise tough questions about Ma's cross-strait policy.
"Ma has been telling Taiwanese that Beijing accepts his claim that Taiwan and China can agree to differ on whether the two sides belong to the same country, but the Chinese delegation's no-show has contradicted that," said Lo, who generally supports the pro-independence opposition. "This will lead people to question the legitimacy of Ma's statements."
But fellow political scientist George Tsai of Taipei's Chinese Culture University — usually a supporter of the government — said that China had shown goodwill by allowing Ma to preside over the opening ceremony.
"Beijing could demand the World Games follow Olympic rules and forbid Ma to attend, but it didn't," Tsai said. "This shows Beijing has made concessions."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/ap_on_re_as/as_taiwan_china_world_games

[Panchito12]

"Some in the crowd applauded this representation of the communist colossus to the west, but many booed, in a clear sign of displeasure with the Chinese action."

I for one appalud the actions of the Taiwanese people.

[Shuimo]

"Some in the crowd applauded this representation of the communist colossus to the west, but many booed, in a clear sign of displeasure with the Chinese action."

I for one appalud the actions of the Taiwanese people.

It is a pity on the part of us mainlanders!:roll:

[Hippo]

chicoms always have to cry and bitch and moan

fagets

[Shuimo]

chicoms always have to cry and bitch and moan

fagets

When wud you stop using such terms?
It wud only make you less credible!:slap:

[Panchito12]

When wud you stop using such terms?


Which one? "Cry", "Bitch", "Moan", "Faget"[sic], or "Chicom"?

[Shuimo]

Which one? "Cry", "Bitch", "Moan", "Faget"[sic], or "Chicom"?

All of them!:bash:

[matthew.manhorn]

lol the CCP was criticizing the west for politicizing a sports event (2008 olympics) yet they tried to politicize the sports games in Taiwan :roll:

[Shuimo]

lol the CCP was criticizing the west for politicizing a sports event (2008 olympics) yet they tried to politicize the sports games in Taiwan :roll:

Sort of!:)

But this time I support the CPC decision!
You need to look at what TW is up to before you point the finger at the CPC!

[Panchito12]

:fork:
^^^^
Why is Chicom Govt hurting Yellow??

Stop it Chicom! Stop it!!

[deagle]

Sort of!:)

But this time I support the CPC decision!
You need to look at what TW is up to before you point the finger at the CPC!

if Taiwan wants to be "free", they should fight for it, like we did in the Revolutionary war.

[Shuimo]

:fork:
^^^^
Why is Chicom Govt hurting Yellow??

Stop it Chicom! Stop it!!

We feel nothing shameful about being Yellow!
In fact the Chinese have a very popular song to sing praises to this very Yellowness! (Of ocurse I know too well what you really have in mind when you stick to using yellow)!

No comment on the rest of yr words!rofl

[Shuimo]

if Taiwan wants to be "free", they should fight for it, like we did in the Revolutionary war.

But they should reconsider given that the country they try to break away from is PRC, not FY!:)

[Holmes85]

if Taiwan wants to be "free", they should fight for it, like we did in the Revolutionary war.

But the British didn't have Nuclear weapons nor were they literally next door to us.

I should point out that one could view the issue of Taiwan's independence as merely a power struggle between the U.S. and China in terms of influence in the world. If either side were to back down from their stance, they would be viewed as weak or giving in under pressure. The problem may best be solved by taking a middle path that would satisfy both sides, especially the people of Taiwan, who are caught in the middle of this power struggle.

[Shuimo]

But the British didn't have Nuclear weapons nor were they literally next door to us.

I should point out that one could view the issue of Taiwan's independence as merely a power struggle between the U.S. and China in terms of influence in the world. If either side were to back down from their stance, they would be viewed as weak or giving in under pressure. The problem may best be solved by taking a middle path that would satisfy both sides, especially the people of Taiwan, who are caught in the middle of this power struggle.

Basically, we have the same sort of key notion concerning the Taiwan question!:)

[Panchito12]

Basically, we have the same sort of key notion concerning the Taiwan question!:)

Basically we don't.

Why?

'Cause Chicom is stabbing Yellow! --> :fork:

[Shuimo]

Basically we don't.

Why?

'Cause Chicom is stabbing Yellow! --> :fork:

NO, my use of WE excludes you!:)

[TR1]

I have always felt that the use of "chicom" is a cover for some self in-adequacy.

[Panchito12]

I have always felt that the use of "chicom" is a cover for some self in-adequacy.

Kinda like "Peace-Loving People of the USSR"?

[TR1]

Kinda like "Peace-Loving People of the USSR"?
What does this thread have to do with the USSR?

[Panchito12]

What does this thread have to do with the USSR?

What does it have to do with psychoanalysis?

[TR1]

What does it have to do with psychoanalysis?
You tell me, you and others came in here and started screaming "chicoms" everywhere.

[Panchito12]

You tell me, you and others came in here and started screaming "chicoms" everywhere.

In the West the acronym "CHICOM" - short for Chinese Communist - is an perfectly acceptable noun when referring to the Red Communist Chinese government currently in power in China.

Welcome to Western civilization. I'm sure that you, as an Easterner, will enjoy your stay.:hug:

[deagle]

did taiwan boycott the beijing olympics ?

[Rakki]

Taiwan already fought for its independence in the period after the 1950's when the garrison at Kinmen fought off persistent ChiCom assaults.'

The problem is retarded KMT politicians who want to keep up the charade of R.O.C. being the legitimate government for all of China, and now are trying to twist this to mean Taiwan is actually a part of PRC.

As for that uni professor who said China has shown goodwill by allowing President Ma to preside over the opening of the World Games... that's a real WTF moment. China, allow? Who's the host here?

[Elbs]

Too bad they didn't boycott the games completely. Less chance of underage gymnasts with fake birth certificates

[yydebox1]

Taiwan already fought for its independence in the period after the 1950's when the garrison at Kinmen fought off persistent ChiCom assaults.
The war of Jinmen is part of Chinese civil war and it is not "fought for its independence",you should read more books about chinese civil war.

The problem is retarded KMT politicians who want to keep up the charade of R.O.C. being the legitimate government for all of China, and now are trying to twist this to mean Taiwan is actually a part of PRC.
Taiwan is part of China,even USA admit this fact.Don't forget,KMT have been chosen by local people,they expressed their will.

As for that uni professor who said China has shown goodwill by allowing President Ma to preside over the opening of the World Games... that's a real WTF moment. China, allow? Who's the host here?
The professor told you a bloody truth,but you can choose believe or not.

[TR1]

Welcome to Western civilization. I'm sure that you, as an Easterner, will enjoy your stay.:hug:
Keep your silly comments to yourself.

I don't recall asking you for an introduction to the West.:roll:

[matthew.manhorn]

Taiwan already fought for its independence in the period after the 1950's when the garrison at Kinmen fought off persistent ChiCom assaults.'

The problem is retarded KMT politicians who want to keep up the charade of R.O.C. being the legitimate government for all of China, and now are trying to twist this to mean Taiwan is actually a part of PRC.

As for that uni professor who said China has shown goodwill by allowing President Ma to preside over the opening of the World Games... that's a real WTF moment. China, allow? Who's the host here?

and those were actually KMT troops who defended Kimen, not those Taiwanese imperial Japanese forces

The KMT got voted into office by the Taiwanese people after Chen Sui Bien's presidency ended, so stop bitching about Chicoms when in fact the Taiwanese themselves don't want Taiwanese independence yet. With the democratization of Taiwan following the creation of DPP, pro Taiwanese independence KMT members like Lee Denghui no longer exists.

[TheMiddlePath]

Too bad they didn't boycott the games completely. Less chance of underage gymnasts with fake birth certificates

Olympic is over almost a year. Get over it. You lost.
Judges decision should be final.
Chinese Atletes never question the judges when they lost due to controverial decisions.
http://i28.tinypic.com/64jd3r.jpg

China's Zhang Jing, Xiao Sha, He Kexin and Huang Qiushuang (from L to R) wave on the podium after they won the women's team event with 171.20 points at the Gymnastics Artistic Japan Cup 2009, Chiba, Japan. (Xinhua/Ren Zhenglai)

[Panchito12]

I don't recall asking you for an introduction to the West.:roll:

But what kind of host would I'd be if I did not welcome you!:oops:

[Solvent]

Olympic is over almost a year. Get over it. You lost.
Judges decision should be final.
Chinese Atletes never question the judges when they lost due to controverial decisions.
http://i28.tinypic.com/64jd3r.jpg

China's Zhang Jing, Xiao Sha, He Kexin and Huang Qiushuang (from L to R) wave on the podium after they won the women's team event with 171.20 points at the Gymnastics Artistic Japan Cup 2009, Chiba, Japan. (Xinhua/Ren Zhenglai)


Good job to our girls. They look great btw.

People tend to forget that Asian people look much younger when they are teenagers than westerner.

[Hippo]

Good job to our girls. They look great btw.

People tend to forget that Asian people look much younger when they are teenagers than westerner.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5449/pedobearb.png

[Solvent]

What's this supposed to mean? Are you trying to tell me you look like the bear, or whatever it is

[Elbs]

Good job to our girls. They look great btw.

People tend to forget that Asian people look much younger when they are teenagers than westerner.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-flumenbaum/scandal-of-the-ages-docum_b_118842.html

China men's gymnastics team = fantastic
China women's = underage cheaters

[Solvent]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-flumenbaum/scandal-of-the-ages-docum_b_118842.html

China men's gymnastics team = fantastic
China women's = underage cheaters

I am sorry, I choose to believe the conclusion from Olympic Committee.

[TR1]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-flumenbaum/scandal-of-the-ages-docum_b_118842.html

China men's gymnastics team = fantastic
China women's = underage cheaters
Just wait a little, there will be another confession by a Chinese gymnast that she was not old enough.


I would not call the entire team cheaters though, most of them are great competitors.

[Rilence]

I am sorry, I choose to believe the conclusion from Olympic Committee.
Of course you would.

[Elbs]

Just wait a little, there will be another confession by a Chinese gymnast that she was not old enough.


I would not call the entire team cheaters though, most of them are great competitors.

You're right, but one medal won by fraud can disgrace an entire team. The real winners in my book were the Russians... the hottest gymnasts :grin:

[Solvent]

Of course you would.

Yeah, you got it right.

[Solvent]

You're right, but one medal won by fraud can disgrace an entire team. The real winners in my book were the Russians... the hottest gymnasts :grin:

Fraud charge is unjustified. And that is right, one disgraceful citizen will disgrace whole country. That is very fair.

[Panchito12]

I am sorry, I choose to believe the conclusion from Olympic Committee.

Do you also apply that belief to Figure Skating?

[GBob]

I am sorry, I choose to believe the conclusion from Olympic Committee.

i don't believe an all-time liar only by a commen sense, not a conclusion over such an issue, just like the conclusion of 100% vote in favor to Sadam Hosseen back those days in Iraq and Kim Jong Ill of N.Korea. Don't try to absurd basic human judgement of truth.

[Hippo]

What's this supposed to mean? Are you trying to tell me you look like the bear, or whatever it is

goddamn i lold, hard

[fooj]

In the West the acronym "CHICOM" - short for Chinese Communist - is an perfectly acceptable noun when referring to the Red Communist Chinese government currently in power in China.

Welcome to Western civilization. I'm sure that you, as an Easterner, will enjoy your stay.:hug:

Actually my grandpa who fought in Korea used to call em chicoms in a pegorative sense. I don't think it's that commonly used anymore in most circles.

[Solvent]

Do you also apply that belief to Figure Skating?

Sorry, I didn't watch figure skating, I think the game is pretty gay, all the tight pants, dancing everything, you know.

[Solvent]

i don't believe an all-time liar only by a commen sense, not a conclusion over such an issue, just like the conclusion of 100% vote in favor to Sadam Hosseen back those days in Iraq and Kim Jong Ill of N.Korea. Don't try to absurd basic human judgement of truth.

I am not sure if you ever learned basic physics. Sometimes, even what you see through your own eyes is not real. Drawing conclusion from common sense is not very reliable

[GBob]

I am not sure if you ever learned basic physics. Sometimes, even what you see through your own eyes is not real. Drawing conclusion from common sense is not very reliable
Funny enough, what's wrong with physics! of course I set my own opinion based on my eyes, do you really think you could represent other's? you may be right in your country, but China isn't the world! there're lot more people outside of china with their own thoughts and refusing to be metally fvcked by your chicom, never try to be smart like this, you can't make my mind, dont' even try it, you clown.

[fooj]

Funny enough, what's wrong with physics! of course I set my own opinion based on my eyes, do you really think you could represent other's? you may be right in your country, but China isn't the world! there're lot more people outside of china with their own thoughts and refusing to be metally fvcked by your chicom, never try to be smart like this, you can't make my mind, dont' even try it, you clown.

The notion that anyone here is going to convince others to alter their opinions about anything is naive, so don't worry about that.

[Solvent]

Funny enough, what's wrong with physics! of course I set my own opinion based on my eyes, do you really think you could represent other's? you may be right in your country, but China isn't the world! there're lot more people outside of china with their own thoughts and refusing to be metally fvcked by your chicom, never try to be smart like this, you can't make my mind, dont' even try it, you clown.

I am not representing any other people, but you seem to be representing the so-called chicom-fvcked people. Calm down, will you? China of course is not the world, but look like you have some special interests on it. Did I ever try to change you mind? If I am doing that, I am probably pissed off at any moment like you are.

[GBob]

The notion that anyone here is going to convince others to alter their opinions about anything is naive, so don't worry about that.
I don't worry about it, just feel funny that liquid **** thinks himself a solely representative of 1.3 billion of China, what a chicom figure! As i know there're over half of its population living like miserable slaves under their dictatorship regime, if this lying sh!t touting and acting self-exaltation for his gov't among those people like his post in here, he'll be definitely torn into pieces within a sec.!

[GBob]

I am not representing any other people, but you seem to be representing the so-called chicom-fvcked people. Calm down, will you? China of course is not the world, but look like you have some special interests on it. Did I ever try to change you mind? If I am doing that, I am probably pissed off at any moment like you are.
Tell me straght, what the special interests from me on it? spying or sabotaging on your china? oversea anti-China forces? have you ever awared that you're not worth it! clean up your own mess first before you come up concerning others. Shooting the sh!t is far easier than what you really are, i would think you know it.

[Solvent]

I don't worry about it, just feel funny that liquid **** thinks himself a solely representative of 1.3 billion of China, what a chicom figure! As i know there're over half of its population living like miserable slaves under their dictatorship regime, if this lying sh!t touting and acting self-exaltation for his gov't among those people like his post in here, he'll be definitely torn into pieces within a sec.!

Tell me straght, what the special interests from me on it? spying or sabotaging on your china? oversea anti-China forces? have you ever awared that you're not worth it! clean up your own mess first before you come up concerning others. Shooting the sh!t is far easier than what you really are, i would think you know it.

rofl

Just look at your language, you are painting yourself here. I am not going to reply you again

Whatever you say, you sir, please having fun here.

[TheMiddlePath]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-flumenbaum/scandal-of-the-ages-docum_b_118842.html

China men's gymnastics team = fantastic
China women's = underage cheaters


Here's another.

US Cyclist did not win any medals due to "Apology for wearing mask". Yeah.... blame others again. Just cannot get over it.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2008-09-05-3903985739_x.htm

[TheMiddlePath]

i don't believe an all-time liar only by a commen sense, not a conclusion over such an issue, just like the conclusion of 100% vote in favor to Sadam Hosseen back those days in Iraq and Kim Jong Ill of N.Korea. Don't try to absurd basic human judgement of truth.


World Gym Federation also agreed with China. Get over it and move on. The next Olympic is in London.

[GBob]

rofl

Just look at your language, you are painting yourself here. I am not going to reply you again

Whatever you say, you sir, please having fun here.
My language ever to you has been surely decent enough, what language you chicom expect otherwise! I never give a damn w you reply or not. You know exactly what you failed, go to hell then.

[fooj]

My language ever to you has been surely decent enough, what language you chicom expect otherwise! I never give a damn w you reply or not. You know exactly what you failed, go to hell then.

Now now, there's no point getting personal, we can all hate each other without getting petty.

I don't necessarily agree with the narrow minded chicom bashing, but some of the Chinese posters certainly need to keep their egos in check.

[Elbs]

Here's another.

US Cyclist did not win any medals due to "Apology for wearing mask". Yeah.... blame others again. Just cannot get over it.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2008-09-05-3903985739_x.htm

What does that have to do with anything? US cyclists annoyed at having been ordered to apologize to China after they wanted to wear a mask? Beijing now has mountain fresh air? Give me a break.

[GBob]

。。。。。。。。。。。。

I wonder... there must be a more refined/elegant or a more chinese-styled solution for this... hurrdurr boycotting is so uncultivated...

"basically， the same bunch of goons and thugs they've been for the last 50 years."------by Cafferty of CNN.

I don't like his words concluding all chinese, but I have to say I agree with what he meant if you look back history of China. Individual smartness that Chinese people relished themselves never made the nation run wise enough on its own problems but a creation and refining of cunning and crafty personalities. that's something you refer as Hurr or Durr (what's it exactly?)

[TheMiddlePath]

What does that have to do with anything? US cyclists annoyed at having been ordered to apologize to China after they wanted to wear a mask? Beijing now has mountain fresh air? Give me a break.


Chinese double Olympic champion Chen Zhong was eliminated in controversial fashion, following a protest by the team of her British quarterfinal opponent, Sarah Stevenson.
Chen had her victory over Stevenson overturned after tournament officials ruled that referees missed a scoring kick in the dying seconds that would have won the Briton the match.
The ruling, announced over a loudspeaker, prompted enraged Chinese spectators to chant "kangyi!" (protest!) for several minutes.
Taekwondo officials had consulted the Chinese team before making the decision, Jin said.
"Their response was: 'we are a hosting country and believing in sportsmanship, we are willing to accept any outcome from the decision'," said Jin.

Chen Zhong deserved a gold medal in sportmanship.

[TheMiddlePath]

"basically， the same bunch of goons and thugs they've been for the last 50 years."------by Cafferty of CNN.

I don't like his words concluding all chinese, but I have to say I agree with what he meant if you look back history of China. Individual smartness that Chinese people relished themselves never made the nation run wise enough on its own problems but a creation and refining of cunning and crafty personalities. that's something you refer as Hurr or Durr (what's it exactly?)

Yep.....Cafferty speaking like a goon and thug.

[Elbs]

Chinese double Olympic champion Chen Zhong was eliminated in controversial fashion, following a protest by the team of her British quarterfinal opponent, Sarah Stevenson.
Chen had her victory over Stevenson overturned after tournament officials ruled that referees missed a scoring kick in the dying seconds that would have won the Briton the match.
The ruling, announced over a loudspeaker, prompted enraged Chinese spectators to chant "kangyi!" (protest!) for several minutes.
Taekwondo officials had consulted the Chinese team before making the decision, Jin said.
"Their response was: 'we are a hosting country and believing in sportsmanship, we are willing to accept any outcome from the decision'," said Jin.

Chen Zhong deserved a gold medal in sportmanship.

Why would China protest and run the risk of blemishing their expensive attempt (the Olympics) at portraying how great and perfect China was over one measly medal?

[TheMiddlePath]

Why would China protest and run the risk of blemishing their expensive attempt (the Olympics) at portraying how great and perfect China was over one measly medal?


Not only olympic. In just about any world event Chinese do not protest bad line calls. They just move on to focus on winning the next point.

[Hongjian]

"basically， the same bunch of goons and thugs they've been for the last 50 years."------by Cafferty of CNN.

I don't like his words concluding all chinese, but I have to say I agree with what he meant if you look back history of China. Individual smartness that Chinese people relished themselves never made the nation run wise enough on its own problems but a creation and refining of cunning and crafty personalities. that's something you refer as Hurr or Durr (what's it exactly?)

As for hurrdurr:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hurr%20durr
Just MY opinion on the lack of 'minimum content quality' in most of the posts here made by people who seriously lacks manners:

"I don't worry about it, just feel funny that liquid **** thinks himself a solely representative of 1.3 billion of China, what a chicom figure! As i know there're over half of its population living like miserable slaves under their dictatorship regime, if this lying sh!t touting and acting self-exaltation for his gov't among those people like his post in here, he'll be definitely torn into pieces within a sec.!"
(cool story broseph - minimum content quality achieved, while mine gets deleted? It's awwwright...)

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Back to the basics:
Basically I mean, that a straightforward boycott of the Taiwan-Games
is a pretty inelegant and 'unchinese' move to achieve the political obligation of denying Taiwan their formal independence with any means.
The CCP-planners who decided on this action should be punished for their lack of tact that resulted into a severely loss of face for the arguably 'pro-unification/pro-chinese' KMT - something that the DDP and the independence sympathisers would take advantage from to promote even more anti-chinese resentments and popular support for their cause.
It would be better, if the CCP solved this problem through the formal approval and financial support of this sport-event from their own purse - with the term, that 'World Games' would be renamed into something like 'China Taiwan/Province Games' to promote the image that Taiwan is a part of China and that these games arent something that is planned by Taiwan unilaterally.
With this method the faces of both sides would be saved, Taiwan would get their beloved games and China wouldnt have to fear an international recognition of Taiwan, by making taiwanese matters their matter.

Anyway. No need to be sad over spilled milk. The next time Taiwan tricks again, the CCP should be more considerate about their choice of personell.

[Ordie]

I find it very hypocritical given that ROC Olympians accepted the invitiation from Beijing for the Olympics but not reciprocate for the World Games in Taiwan.

PS: I'm on vacation in Northern Territories, Australia (Alice Springs).

Shiumo: Don't name drop me or bug me. I'm on vacation....I'm no Chicom.

[Elbs]

Not only olympic. In just about any world event Chinese do not protest bad line calls. They just move on to focus on winning the next point.

No, they just riot like they did when Japan beat them 3-1 away at Beijing during the Asian Cup Final.
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/SPORT/football/08/07/china.japan/index.html