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AmandlaEwetu
07-21-2009, 04:37 AM
article in the Telegraph

World's elderly to overtake number of infants

The world's population is becoming steadily greyer with the number of people aged over 65 on course to overtake the number of infants for the first time in history, a study has found

the populations of Europe and North America have been steadily ageing for decades, this trend is now spreading to the developing world, especially Asia Photo: ***** IMAGES
With every passing month, another 870,000 people turn 65 and the world's cohort of pensioners becomes larger still. Thanks to rising life expectancy, their ranks will soon be growing by almost two million a month and, by 2040, their numbers will have doubled to 1.3 billion.
This will reduce the size of the working population and impose huge new pension costs, threatening to reduce the overall growth of the world economy.


The US Census Bureau predicts pensioners will soon overtake the number of infants under the age of five because old people are now increasing faster than the very youngest human beings. The lines on the graph will cross within a decade, marking a decisive moment in the greying of the globe.
Richard Suzman, from the National Institute of Ageing in Maryland, which commissioned the new study, said: "Global ageing is changing the social and economic nature of the planet.
"The fact that, within 10 years, for the first time in human history there will be more people 65 and older than children under five in the world underlines the extent of this change."
While the populations of Europe and North America have been steadily ageing for decades, this trend is now spreading to the developing world, especially Asia. Rising life expectancy and better health care, coupled with lower fertility rates, mean that some Asian nations must prepare for large rises in their pensioner population.
In China, the number of citizens above 65 will more than treble from 106 million today to 329 million by 2040. This will hugely increase the cost of pensions and impose a major constraint on the future growth of China's economy. The stellar growth rates which have buoyed China's economy will become impossible with so many people set to leave the working population.
The proportion of South Koreans over 65 will also treble from 10 to 29 per cent, while Singapore will see the most dramatic change, with the pensioner contingent rising from nine per cent today to 33 per cent in 2040.
Once, the rich world was alone in shepherding large numbers of people to their 65th birthdays. But leaving aside Zimbabwe, where an Aids epidemic and general starvation means that most people die before the age of 40, life expectancy is rising strongly almost everywhere.
Consequently, most people of pensionable age already live in poor countries. "Well over half of the world's people aged 65 and over now live in developing nations: 62 per cent, or 313 million people," said the Census Bureau report. "By 2040, this share is projected to exceed three quarters, with the absolute number of older people in developing countries topping one billion."
People over 80 are multiplying faster than any other age group, with their ranks are set to grow by 233 per cent.

AmandlaEwetu
07-21-2009, 04:42 AM
I have also become aware of the increasing amount of press space devoted to the joys of not retiring and working until you drop-nothing like preparing the sheeple for a life of work as the welfare state becomes more and more expensive

click
07-21-2009, 04:45 AM
With the aging population of the US, before you know it, we'll be paying Mexicans to immigrate.

MichaelF
07-21-2009, 04:47 AM
The trick is, we've only managed to ablate senescent morbidity (death from age-related factors) so far....eventually, like the Boomer Retirement phenomena, all these elderly folks are going to start kicking off en-masse, which will return a balance to the system (admittedly, the new balance will be somewhat skewed towards older people, but hardly an elderly-dominated system).

void
07-21-2009, 05:04 AM
This is inevitable, the world population cannot grow indefinitely, meaning at some point the population pyramid (with more young people than old people) will turn more towards a population rectangle.

The solution to the problems entailed by this inevitable development is a combination of greater productivity from the working age population through better technology, and possibly a higher age of retirement which is possible if people around retirement age are still healthy enough to work due to better health care.

Flagg
07-21-2009, 05:49 AM
80 is the new 40!

"retirement" = getting chucked in the Soylent Green Machine

"Old people taste just like chicken!" :)

INAT
07-21-2009, 08:38 AM
We did a number on this planet.I think post human era is coming soon.

Hurry up.

seraosha
07-21-2009, 10:05 AM
I won't miss the boomers.
They are human locusts.

epictetus
07-21-2009, 10:27 AM
The major problem is the culture of life that is so popular in our society. Keeping people alive at all costs. I see it everyday, elderly going into major surgery because their kids want them to and staying in the hospital for months with complications. Then their kids don't understand why their 89 year old mother can't get out of bed. Or the ones that refuse to sign DNR on a 91 year old with cancer and insist we keep her alive. Sure we can, intubated and with a tube feeding her. But at what cost? As long as life at all costs mentality prevails, health care costs will skyrocket. You havn't seen anything yet. Quality of life s what we are all after.

SOG
07-21-2009, 12:46 PM
Drink more. Smoke more.

Reminds me of that line in Black Hawk Down:
You Americans don't smoke anymore. You live long, dull and uninteresting lives.

Sums up what I think: In a hurry to go nowhere. Staying alive at all costs to do nothing.

bono
07-21-2009, 06:42 PM
Drink more. Smoke more.

Reminds me of that line in Black Hawk Down:
You Americans don't smoke anymore. You live long, dull and uninteresting lives.

Sums up what I think: In a hurry to go nowhere. Staying alive at all costs to do nothing.

Absolutely, I have had neighbors retired since the late 70's. All they do is watch TV, occasionally leave apartment to go buy groceries and get back in time to watch Matlock. 30 year paid vacation!

Laworkerbee
07-21-2009, 06:44 PM
Drink more. Smoke more.

Reminds me of that line in Black Hawk Down:
You Americans don't smoke anymore. You live long, dull and uninteresting lives.

Sums up what I think: In a hurry to go nowhere. Staying alive at all costs to do nothing.

Don't worry, I'm picking up the slack.

Zarak
07-21-2009, 06:48 PM
Don't worry, I'm picking up the slack.

But unhealthy stuff is BAD, won't you be tried for treason against Kalifornia or something?

Laworkerbee
07-21-2009, 06:53 PM
But unhealthy stuff is BAD, won't you be tried for treason against Kalifornia or something?

PC Thugs and health fascists and I don't get along to well anyway, the good part is...none of them believe in the right to own arms.

In the end their side would be wiped out :)

Violet Fashion by Mindy
07-21-2009, 06:55 PM
Once the baby boomer generation dies off (the sooner the better, Sorry Joe/Hollis) things will stablise and we will be back to sustainable population growth.

Remember when they introduced the retirement age hardly anyone used to live beyond 65.

Laworkerbee
07-21-2009, 06:56 PM
When I go I'm taking you with me Minardiau.

FlintHillBilly
07-21-2009, 07:41 PM
People over 80 are multiplying faster than any other age group, with their ranks are set to grow by 233 per cent.

I call for a New World Order of mandatory castration and sterizlization! The people over 80 are multiplying faster than the rabbits in my garden!

MaverickCowboy
07-21-2009, 08:48 PM
Nuke florida.

fooj
07-21-2009, 09:24 PM
I think Logan's Run had the right idea.

Violet Fashion by Mindy
07-22-2009, 02:20 AM
When I go I'm taking you with me Minardiau.

Why what did I do?

Eztyga
07-22-2009, 02:32 AM
I think Logan's Run had the right idea.

*As long as it is the book you are referring to, not the lame arse movie*

Yeah, time to imbed crystals in people's palms.

"Time's up for you Runner!"

SOG
07-23-2009, 07:01 PM
Don't worry, I'm picking up the slack.

Hot damn!


Once the baby boomer generation dies off (the sooner the better, Sorry Joe/Hollis) things will stablise and we will be back to sustainable population growth.

Remember when they introduced the retirement age hardly anyone used to live beyond 65.

That's an interesting thought. I never considered changes due to the dying out of a generation...

Holmes85
07-23-2009, 08:02 PM
Once the baby boomer generation dies off (the sooner the better, Sorry Joe/Hollis) things will stablise and we will be back to sustainable population growth.

Remember when they introduced the retirement age hardly anyone used to live beyond 65.


Why what did I do?

You just made a whole lot of enemies, besides Joe and Hollis. Anyway, I think Joe is also the type of person who would take you with him.p-)

carbonrod
07-23-2009, 09:27 PM
With the aging population of the US, before you know it, we'll be paying Mexicans to immigrate.
That will happen very soon ~5 yrs. The real cultural shift will occur when people from countries with less ties to the US are paid to immigrate in numbers. That will be soon as well(~20 yrs).