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Fage
07-22-2009, 02:13 AM
Tuesday, Jul. 21, 2009

What's in an apology? Some expressions of remorse are commonplace — we hear them on the playground when kids smack each other on the head, or they land in your inbox after a friend forgets your birthday. It's the grand-scale apologies, it seems, that are harder to come by.

On July 17, the California legislature quietly approved a landmark bill to apologize to the state's Chinese-American community for racist laws enacted as far back as the mid–19th century Gold Rush, which attracted about 25,000 Chinese from 1849 to 1852. The laws, some of which were not repealed until the 1940s, barred Chinese from owning land or property, marrying whites, working in the public sector and testifying against whites in court. The new bill also recognizes the contributions Chinese immigrants have made to the state, particularly their work on the Transcontinental Railroad.

(Check out a story about the Asian-American experience in late–20th century California.) (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,969796,00.html)

The apology is the latest in a wave of official acts of remorse around the globe. In 2006, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper made a similar apology, expressing regret to Chinese Canadians for unequal taxes imposed on them in the late 19th century. Last February, Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd apologized to his country's Aborigines for racist laws of the past, including the forced separation of children from their parents. Five months later, the U.S. Congress formally apologized to black Americans for slavery and the later Jim Crow laws, which were not repealed until the 1960s. And most notably, in 1988 the U.S. government decided to pay $20,000 to each of the surviving 120,000 Japanese Americans imprisoned in camps during World War II. Says Donald Tamaki, a San Francisco–based attorney who helped overturn wrongful WWII-era convictions of Japanese Americans: "Part of what a humane society does is recognize past injustices and address them."

The California resolution moved quickly through the state legislature since it was first introduced in February. "It's symbolic to recognize that the state made mistakes," says assembly member Paul Fong, who co-sponsored the legislation with assembly member Kevin de Leon. "These laws reverberate to this date because racism still exists." (Read about a new Asian-American stereotype in TIME'S 1987 cover story.) (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,965326,00.html)

Most of the direct victims of the laws in question have already passed away. Fong's grandfather was held for two months at Angel Island, an immigration station near San Francisco that targeted and detained several hundred thousand Chinese immigrants from 1910 to 1940. Dale Ching, 88, arrived at Angel Island from China's Guangdong province in 1937 at age 16. Though his father was an American citizen, immigration authorities detained Ching for 3˝ months. "My intent was to try to have a better life, better than in China," says Ching. "But at that time, they didn't want you to get ahead."

How times have changed. In the throes of huge budget cuts, California is wooing cash-flush mainland Chinese tourists to its sun-kissed coastline and world-famous theme parks. So far this year, the state's Travel and Tourism Commission has opened offices in three Chinese cities. In 2005, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger toured China on a six-day trade mission to peddle his state's produce, technology and raw materials. China is now California's fourth largest export market, after Mexico, Canada and Japan. In 2008 California exported $10.9 billion worth of goods to China, up 40% since 2005.

With the California bill in the bag, Fong now plans to take the issue to Congress, where he will request an apology for the Chinese Exclusion Act, the only federal law ever enacted to deny immigration based exclusively on race or nationality. Passed in 1882, the law was not fully repealed until 1943, after China and the U.S. became allies in WWII. Given President Obama's decision to appoint Gary Locke as Commerce Secretary and Steven Chu as Energy Secretary, Fong says he's confident of the bill's passage. "As a person of color, President Obama would understand these issues," he says.

Fong does not plan to press for financial compensation for the surviving victims of the state and federal laws in question, despite the Japanese-American precedent. More important than individual compensation, he says, is to help educate younger generations about the mistakes of the past. That said, Fong may ask for funding to help preserve the Angel Island immigration station, dilapidated after decades of neglect. To complicate matters, the station is located within a state park that, along with several others, may be shut down to help balance California's budget shortfall.

Not long after his father helped negotiate his release, Dale Ching joined the U.S. Army and fought Japanese forces during WWII. He went on to become an electronics technician, but after retiring, he began volunteering as a docent at Angel Island in hopes of drawing more attention to that moment in history. "We've been fighting, but nobody would listen," he says. "Finally someone has said sorry."


Source:http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1911981,00.html

LazerLordz
07-22-2009, 02:22 AM
Good piece of news. Symbolic as it is, some issues need to be addressed, and I'm glad they have done so.

matthew.manhorn
07-22-2009, 02:50 AM
Ha, Canada and Cali are populated with Chinese nowadays :p

But an apology never hurts, good responsibility from both California and Harper

2Sheds_Jackson
07-22-2009, 11:04 AM
It's a bit of laughable pandering if you ask me.

Stainless Steel Rat
07-22-2009, 11:49 AM
It's a bit of laughable pandering if you ask me.

Sometimes pandering doesn't hurt.

I am reminded of a story about Lord Wellington (the book is "Wellington: The Years of the Sword by Elizabeth Longford) during the Spanish Campaign. A local grandee had a large herd of horses that Wellington needed to obtain haul supplies and men. He sent several junior officers to negotiate a price and they returned empty-handed. When asked why, they answered that the Spaniard had asked them to bow when they entered to speak to him, and being proud Officers of the British empire, they refused. Wellington said he would handle it personally, and went up to the house. He returned with an agreement to purchase the needed animals. When asked what he had done, Wellington responded "Oh, I just bobbed down a bit".

The point I'm trying to make is that Wellington needed those horses more than he needed to remind everyone of British power. And right now California needs investment and money from Asia more than worrying if an apology (and I don't think you can argue, 2sheds, that the treatment of Chinese/Japanese immigrants in the late 1800's-early 1900's was anything to be proud of) is 'pandering'

So California, like Wellington, bobbed down a little. No big deal.

IMHO as always.

Press on.

tyovan
07-22-2009, 12:13 PM
Did they get their budget worked out yet??
Or are they too busy pandering to ethnic interest groups?

Surf City
07-22-2009, 12:55 PM
I'm part Chinese and I could care less about an apology! Fix the damn economy already.........sheesh.

Panchito12
07-22-2009, 01:14 PM
Good piece of news. Symbolic as it is, some issues need to be addressed, and I'm glad they have done so.

I'm still waiting for China to issue an apology for the Boxer Rebellion.

Solvent
07-22-2009, 01:25 PM
I'm still waiting for China to issue an apology for the Boxer Rebellion.

Yes, the apology will be:" Sorry, I should have let you guys go ahead to burn all the churches, and kicked all foreigners out."

Panchito12
07-22-2009, 01:27 PM
Yes, the apology will be:" Sorry, I should have let you guys go ahead to burn all the churches, and kicked all foreigners out."


Damn. You know that's not much of an apology. At least throw in a few discount coupons for Peking Duck.

Solvent
07-22-2009, 01:36 PM
Damn. You know that's not much of an apology. At least throw in a few discount coupons for Peking Duck.

Yes, besides the coupons, you guys also deserve a couple fake IPhone too. Or you prefer sneakers, we have numberless products you can choose.

Panchito12
07-22-2009, 01:43 PM
Yes, besides the coupons, you guys also deserve a couple fake IPhone too. Or you prefer sneakers, we have numberless products you can choose.

My sneakers are from Indonesia (Nike).

I will gladly take the Peking Duck coupons, throw in some dumplings, a box full of worthless trinkets, and a promise that you will stop "SHUIMO" from posting pro-Chicom stuff again.

Solvent
07-22-2009, 02:02 PM
My sneakers are from Indonesia (Nike).

I will gladly take the Peking Duck coupons, throw in some dumplings, a box full of worthless trinkets, and a promise that you will stop "SHUIMO" from posting pro-Chicom stuff again.


Man, you are easy to be satisfied. I think MOD already completed you wish. Isn't Shuimo banned again already?

I think Shuimo's problem is not posting pro-Chicom stuff. It's just posting too much in short time period.

You know, as a man, being horny is not problem, too often is a problem.

vinny_121_ND
07-22-2009, 02:18 PM
That's good to hear. Harper did that when he became PM and I think he's very well connected with chinese canadians and gained a lot respect. Now I hope the economy gets better.

SOG
07-22-2009, 06:52 PM
Did they get their budget worked out yet??
Or are they too busy pandering to ethnic interest groups?

Sort of and YES.

CG51
07-22-2009, 06:58 PM
Yes, besides the coupons, you guys also deserve a couple fake IPhone too. Or you prefer sneakers, we have numberless products you can choose.


Are they safe for children?

Solvent
07-22-2009, 07:12 PM
Are they safe for children?

Do children play with IPhone now? I think as long as no licking, it should be safe.

Russianlynxy
07-22-2009, 08:30 PM
keep this up and the People's Republic of California will be apologizing to you p-)

GtodeO
07-23-2009, 01:19 AM
about time they time apoligize but I think its too little too late

Ordie
07-23-2009, 08:15 AM
The irony here is that the majority of new Chinese immigrants do not know California history and the Chinese exclusion laws. Many don't care.

Many of the decendants of the Gold Rush era Chinese (Taisan Speakers) are to this day looked down by Mandarin speakers as country bumpkins. Even though many are in the higher ranks of the SFPD, SFFD and local government.

afallan
07-23-2009, 10:33 AM
The irony here is that the majority of new Chinese immigrants do not know California history and the Chinese exclusion laws. Many don't care.

Many of the decendants of the Gold Rush era Chinese (Taisan Speakers) are to this day looked down by Mandarin speakers as country bumpkins. Even though many are in the higher ranks of the SFPD, SFFD and local government.

The problem is that many of these Chinese exclusion laws or any race related topics are never covered in High School. When people think of topics that include race, they automatically think of the African-American experience and that's about it. Well at least that's how it was in my high school. I remember everytime I was saw the "Philippines" in a textbook I would get excited, but it was usually just mentioned in one or two lines. It wasn't till I was in college that I began to learn about other experiences of other groups.

And now with the with more funding going to be cut back in areas such as education, I doubt such topics as the Chinese Exclusion Act, Alien Land Laws, and the Tydings Mcduffee Act are ever going to be covered in high schools, especially public high schools.

Also a comment on the "new" Chinese immigrants; I don't think they care because it's totally new to them. In other words, they don't have any roots or relations to the experiences which took place. Usually it's like that with any first generation.

afallan

IraGlacialis
07-23-2009, 12:04 PM
I'm still waiting for China to issue an apology for the Boxer Rebellion.
Yes, because the Boxer Rebellion came to the US, and the Chinese were responsible for leveling San Fransisco in 1906.

Cali is NOT apologizing to China.
It was to how we were treating Chinese immigrants in the 19th century. Have you read on how they were treated when coming here or how the government pretty much went out of its way to keep Asians from immigrating to the US (the Exclusion acts)?
Frankly it is amazing they don't really make that much of a comparative fuss.