Today's Pic's - Saturday, July 3rd

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Belarusian airborne soldiers march during a military parade marking the 60th anniversary of the Soviet liberation of Belarus from Nazi occupation and Independence Day in downtown Minsk, Belarus, Saturday, July 3, 2004. Belarus marked the 60th anniversary of the end of the Nazi occupation of then-Soviet Belarus on Saturday.
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MINSK, BELARUS: Belarusian tanks take part in a military parade in downtown Minsk 03 July 2004, as Belarus celebrates its Independence Day
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MINSK, BELARUS: Clad in WW.II uniforms, Belarus soldiers parade in downtown Minsk 03 July 2004, as they celebrate the Independence Day of Belarus
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MINSK, BELARUS: Belarus youth aplaud at the Hill of Fame in Minsk 03 July 2004, celebrating the Independence Day of their country.
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From right, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma go to lay flowers at a World War II monument just outside Minsk, Thursday, July 1, 2004, marking the 60th anniversary of the Soviet liberation of Belarus from Nazi occupation. People hold small Belarusian , Russian and Ukrainian flags at left.
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VLADIVOSTOK, RUSSIAN FEDERATION: Russian Navy sailors (R) greet their US colleagues (L) in the port of Vladivostok, 03 July 2004, as the US Cowpens guidedmissle cruiser, in the background, arrived to take part in joint naval exercises. AFP PHOTO/ MARINA SHATILOVA (Photo credit should read MARINA SHATILOVA/AFP/***** Images)
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MOSCOW,RUSSIA. Leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation :)Gennady Zyuganov speaks at the 10th Congress of the CPRF to-day with light from two pocket flashlights with electricity turned off in whole building.
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GROZNY,RUSSIA .Public council for control over spending budgetary funds was formed in Chechnya. Photo ITAR-TASS/ Ruslan Yarikhanov).
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Russian special police officers walk outside the Moscow headquarters of Russia's YUKOS oil firm, July 3, 2004. Police seized vital computer servers during a raid on the Moscow headquarters of Russia's YUKOS oil firm on Saturday, which company officials said could force an immediate halt to oil output
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Russia's Maria Sharapova holds the winner's trophy after defeating Serena Williams in the Women's Singles, final match on the Centre Court at Wimbledon, Saturday July 3, 2004. Sharapova won 6-1, 6-4.
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woot

[b.scheller]

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why is his chip up?

[He219]

I think the guys nearest the reviewing stands (note the stripes) look forward as the rest of the line looks in salute.

...... or something like that
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[He219]

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Indonesian police anti-terror unit prepare to breech a mock hijacked plane through its emergency windows during a hostage rescue demonstration held as part of the opening ceremony of Jakarta Center of Law Enforcement Cooperation (JCLEC) at the Police Academy in Semarang, Central Java, Saturday, July 3, 2004. Indonesia opened the international anti-terror school to boost the fight against terrorism
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SEMARANG, INDONESIA: Indonesian forces take part in a rescue exercise in Semarang, 03 July 2004, during the opening ceremonies of an anti-terror training centre. Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri banged a gong to open the Australian-funded police training centre to show terrorists that the Asia-Pacific region is united against them.
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Indonesian police officers salute during a ceremony commemorating the 58th anniversary of the National Police at the Police Academy in Semarang, Central Java, Saturday, July 3, 2004. Indonesia opened Jakarta Center of Law Enforcement Cooperation (JCLEC), an international anti-terror school aimed to boost the fight against terrorism.
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SEMARANG, INDONESIA: Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri rides a military jeep as she reviews troops during the opening ceremony of an anti-terror training centre in Semarang, 03 July 2004. Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri banged a gong to open the Australian-funded police training centre to show terrorists that the Asia-Pacific region is united against them.
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JAKARTA, INDONESIA: An Indonesian policeman (L) walks past a member of the US Secret Sevice assigned to guard former US president Jimmy Carter (not pictured) as he visits Indonesia's election commission (KPU) office in Jakarta, 03 July 2004. Carter and his wife will join about 570 observers from overseas, including those from the European Union, Australia, Japan, Canada and New Zealand as Indonesians head to the polls 05 July to directly elect a new president.
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Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, left, meets with Indonesia's Chairman for Elections, Nazaruddin Sjamsudin, following a news conference Saturday, July 3, 2004, in Jakarta. Carter is in Indonesia to observe the upcoming presidential elections on July 5

[Aussie E]

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Hotty and can play a little bit of tennis, some other Russian broad must be pissed!

[He219]

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A British soldier from the Royal Engineers closes a security barrier at Drumcree Church, Portadown, Northern Ireland, Saturday, July 3, 2004. The British army erected fences and barbed wire around the church Saturday ahead of the controversial Orange parade which has been barred from marching down the mainly Catholic Garvaghy Road on Sunday

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An Israeli army bulldozer clears the area as it opens the way at the Abu Holi checkpoint in the central Gaza Strip, Saturday, July 3, 2004. The Israeli army opened the checkpoint Saturday, allowing thousands of Palestinians to travel north and south in the Gaza Strip. The checkpoint had been closed since Palestinian militants blew up an Israeli Army outpost in the area, killing one soldier and wounding several others last Sunday.
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Palestinians ride on trucks as they drive past Israeli army jeeps at the Abu Holi checkpoint in the central Gaza Strip, Saturday, July 3, 2004. The Israeli army opened the checkpoint Saturday, allowing thousands of Palestinians to travel north and south in the Gaza Strip
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Palestinians wait to cross through the Abu Holi checkpoint as land razed by bulldozers is seen, in the central Gaza Strip, Saturday, July 3, 2004.
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A Palestinian man walks up a hill under the watch of an Israeli Army tower in Beit Lahiya, in the northern Gaza Strip , Friday, July 2, 2004.
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An Israeli army jeep patrols along Israel's separation barrier at the Qalandia refugee camp, background, in the outskirts of the West Bank city of Ramallah Saturday, July 3, 2004. The barrier separates the refugee camp from the village of A-Ram, in the outskirts of Jerusalem
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A Palestinian youth watches through the legs of a man as the body of 9-year old Palestinian boy Ehab Shattat, is lowered into the grave during his funeral in Gaza City, Saturday, July 3, 2004. Shattat was allegedly shot and killed by Israeli forces while walking near his house Saturday, Palestinian witnesses said. Israel army officials said they had no reports of an incident involving the child.
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The father, right, with a blood stainedshirt, and brother of Palestinian Mohammed Jaber, 22, react as they wait to collect his body outside the hospital in Beit Lahiya, in the northern Gaza Strip Friday, July 2, 2004. Jaber was allegedly shot by Israeli forces while standing in his house in the northen Gaza Strip village of Beit Hanoun Friday, Palestinian witnesses said.
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A Palestinian checks a bulldozer destroyed by the Israeli army close to Kfar Darom. Israel sought assurances of US support over a possible unfavourable world court ruling against its separation barrier in the West Bank.

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A main highway is blocked off after a Cessna 172 plane made an emergency landing in Beirut. A small private plane made an emergency landing on a main street in Beirut after the flight instructor and a student pilot encountered technical problems, aviation sources told AFP

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Youths dive and swim in the gulf of the southern Italian city of Naples, Saturday, July 3, 2004. In the backgroung is the Aircraft Carrier USS Harry S. Truman
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Young Iraqi shepherds cool off their sheep in an arm of the Tigris river as Iraq enjoys a brioef lull in violence

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Silhouetted soldiers from 3/69 Armor guard the gate of the forward operating base at dusk at the Army's National Training Center in Fort Irwin, Calif. in June 2004 during the 1st Brigade Combat Team's field rotation in preparation for possible deployement to Iraq later this year.
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Soldiers from A Company, 3/69 Armor, don night vision goggles while searching in a tunnel at the Army's National Training Center in Fort Irwin, Calif. in June 2004, during training in preparation for an expected deployment to Iraq later this year. The exercises are to replicate some of the conditions and situations that U.S. soldiers face in the real Iraq. The tunnel was constructed at the training center to replicate caves and tunnels that soldiers find either in Iraq or Afghanistan.
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A mock "Iraqi" demonstration at the Army's National Training Center at Fort Irwin, Calif. in June 2004. Soldiers of the 3rd Infantry Division train in preparation for an expected deployment to Iraq later this year. People dressed like Iraqis were taken at one of several "Iraqi villages'' set up at the training center to replicate some of the conditions and situations that U.S. soldiers face in the real Iraq.
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Soldiers of the 3rd Infantry Division "capture" a "prisoner" during training at the Army's National Training Center at Fort Irwin, Calif. in June 2004 in preparation for an expected deployment to Iraq later this year. Center portrays "Iraqi villages'' to replicate some of the conditions and situations that U.S. soldiers face in the real Iraq.
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Soldiers from A Company, 3/69 Armor guard "prisoners" after searching of their vehicle during a training exercise at the Army's National Training Center in Fort Irwin, Calif. in June 2004. The soldiers train in preparation for an expected deployment to Iraq late this year
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Lt. Col. Doug Victor, 1/3 Brigade Troops Battalion commander, right, toasts John Kalabat, portraying a "provincial" leader after discussing terms to better the province at the Army's National Training Center in Fort Irwin, Calif. in June 2004. Soldiers of the 3rd Infantry Division are preparing for an expected deployment to Iraq late this year.

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A Greek special forces soldier takes part in an Olympic security exercise at the islet of Nea Platia near Athens as the sun sets, late Wednesday, June 30, 2004. Massive Olympic security measures began going into effect on Thursday, July 1.
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A Greek army special forces soldier jumps from a helicopter during an Olympic security exercise at the islet of Nea Platia near Athens as the sun sets, late Wednesday, June 30, 2004. Massive Olympic security measures began going into effect on Thursday, July 1.
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Greek boy Chris from Thessaloniki, Greece, with the Greek flag around his shoulders blows a horn at the Rossio square in central Lisbon, Portugal on Saturday, July 3, 2004. Greece will play Portugal in the final of the Euro 2004 soccer championship at the Luz stadium in Lisbon, Portugal on Sunday.

[Alphabet76]

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Awesome. Congratulations woot

[CRAZY MERC]

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[mack pl]

....
mhmm, yeah, I totally support invasion of Belarussia ;)

[He219]

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During a firefight April 6, Sgt. Kenneth Conde Jr., infantrymen with Mobile Assault Company, 2nd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, was shot in the left shoulder. Even after being hit, Conde, of Orlando, Fla., was able to kill an enemy combatant. The 22-year-old was shot right above his "Ryde or Die" tattoo on his back. (USMC photo by Cpl. Paula M. Fitzgerald)
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RIP

Sgt. Kenneth Conde Jr., a infantrymen with Mobile Assault Company, 2nd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, who was shot in the left shoulder, poses in Iraq in a not dated photo. Conde Jr., 23, of Orlando, died Thursday while fighting in the Al Anbar province in Iraq, the Department of Defense said in a statement Friday July 2, 2004.

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**ADVANCE FOR SUNDAY JULY 4** West Virginia Air National Guard Staff Sgt. Brad Eastman, of Gandeeville, talks on a phone at Yeager Airport in Charleston, W.Va., Friday, July 2, 2004. Bush can count on a vote from Eastman, who will be part of the ground crew July 4, 2004, when the president arrives in Charleston. The 23-year-old member of the 130th Air Wing spent six months in Qatar while his brother, Chris, served in Iraq with the Guard. ``It would be disastrous if we switch presidents in the middle of the war,'' Eastman said. ``He's done a great job for the military and the rest of us. I don't think he should be put down or looked bad upon because a war happened on his time.''

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A passenger wearing a shirt with Nazi swastikas and a German flag, talks on a mobile phone while riding a Hong Kong subway train, Friday, July 2, 2004. Many in Hong Kong and the region are oblivious to the Nazi connotations associated with the swastika, originally used in a number of ancient cultures including in Buddhist art, and is sometimes used to as a decoration theme in fashion stores, restaurants and advertising campaigns.
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Chinese students load bullets into the magazines of their rifles before a shooting session at a military shooting range in Xian, Shaanxi Province, July 2, 2004. More than 4,200 university students received compulsory shooting and military training from the People's Liberation Army officers on Friday.
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Chinese students from Xian Jiaotong University practice shooting with live bullets at a military shooting range in Xian, Shaanxi Province, July 2, 2004. More than 4,200 university students received compulsory shooting and military training from the People's Liberation Army officers on Friday.

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Riot police, foreground, use tear gas to disperse hundreds of protesters in Nairobi, Kenya, Saturday July 3 2004. Riot police used water cannons, tear gas and clubs to disperse hundreds of protesters Saturday demonstrating against the government's failure to introduce a new Kenyan constitution this week

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Polish troops secure the area near their base in Hilla, Iraq.
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In this photo made available to the AP, cleared by the US military, and released Saturday July 3, 2004, 11 former Iraqi senior leaders are lead into a courtroom in chains Thursday, July 1, 2004 at Camp Victory, a former Saddam palace on the outskirts of Baghdad. From front to back are, Sabir Abdul Aziz Al-Douri, Watban Ibrahim al-Hasan al-Tikriti, Taha Yassin Ramadan, Muhammed Hamza al-Zubaydi, Aziz Saleh al-Numan, Ali Hasan al-Majid, Barzan Ibrahim al-Hassan al-Tikriti, Sultan Hashim Ahmad, Abid Hamid Mahmoud al-Tikriti.
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ATTENTION EDITORS: THE IMAGE HAS BEEN CENSORED AND APPROVED BY COALITION MILITARY AUTHORITIES Sabir Abd al-Aziz al-Douri (L), former military intelligence chief and mayor of Baghdad, arrives with Watban Ibrahim Hassan al-Tikriti, presidential adviser and half-brother of Saddam Hussein to face an Iraqi tribunal July 1, 2004. The photo was released July 3, 2004 and taken July 1, 2004.
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Former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein arriving in shackles to appear before a judge in Baghdad. Insurgents killed eight more people, including six Iraqi national guardsmen and a US marine, while a main southern oil pipeline was ruptured in the latest blows to the newly sovereign government
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A handcuffed suspected Iraqi drug smuggler is escorted by police officers after his arrest near the southern city of Basra, July 2, 2004. Seven individuals, 4 Iranians and 3 Iraqis were arrested in Sieba (a town on the Iraqi border with Iran) as they were attempting to bring 128kg of hashish into Iraq. The smugglers clashed with the Iraqi police force, leading to the injury of one of the suspected smugglers, who is now being treated in a Basra hospital. The incident is still under investigation, Iraqi police said. Picture taken July 2, 2004
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U.S. soldiers discovered a car bomb production site and detained 51 people for questioning during a two-day search for illegal weapons in Baghdad, the military said on July 3, 2004. Soldiers found four vehicles, which were apparently being modified for use in bomb attacks, at one site, while searches elsewhere netted rocket-propelled grenade launchers, explosives and bombs designed to be used in roadside attacks. A U.S. Army soldier (R) and an Iraqi National Guardsman are shown in this July 2, 2004 file photo.
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Iraq declined Jordan's offer to send troops to help stabilize the country on July 3, 2004, but said it would welcome peacekeeping forces from Arab countries that do not share its borders. King Abdullah said Jordan was willing to send the first Arab troops to Iraq if the interim government, which formally took over sovereignty this week, requested it. In this photo, members of an Iraqi security force conduct a patrol in Baghdad on July 2, 2004.
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US soldiers keep themselves cool in the shade of a bridge as they patrol central Baghdad. Insurgents killed eight more people, including six Iraqi national guardsmen and a US marine, while a main southern oil pipeline was ruptured in the latest blows to the newly sovereign government


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NATO's General James Jones (L) at a press conference in Kabul. He says the logistical challenge of expanding NATO peacekeeping forces in Afghanistan is huge but not insurmountable
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A map of Afghanistan showing areas considered high risk last year that include Zabul province. US-led forces and Afghan army troops have killed at least 12 suspected Taliban militants in a joint operation, including a man thought to be a top commander of the militia, an official said
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A US soldier in Zabul province. US-led coalition troops have captured or killed close to two dozen suspected militants in southern Afghanistan during the past week, US military spokesman Major Jon Siepmann said
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An Afghan man talks on a satellite phone near the Blue mosque market in Kabul, Afghanistan, Saturday, July 3, 2004. Satallite phone owners charge 20 afghani (45 cents) for a minute to talk to anywhere in the world.

[Pille1234]

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A passenger wearing a shirt with Nazi swastikas and a German flag, talks on a mobile phone while riding a Hong Kong subway train, Friday, July 2, 2004. Many in Hong Kong and the region are oblivious to the Nazi connotations associated with the swastika, originally used in a number of ancient cultures including in Buddhist art, and is sometimes used to as a decoration theme in fashion stores, restaurants and advertising campaigns.

Oblivious to Nazi connotation? Was the German flag Buddhist art too? Fu<k him, he's wearing the swastika with clear intentions.

[UoUo]

What the **** is going on there? the go with this nazi **** and no one tell them to stop?

[American Patriot]

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RIP Sgt. Kenneth Conde Jr

[mack pl]

What the f*** is going on there? the go with this nazi **** and no one tell them to stop?

hehe, mate, maybe you dont know but in Asia they dont care wht that means, they even dont care wht the fuk Holocaust mean ;) So, dont be so pissed off, coz Im sure this guy arent Asian skinhead or something, he is onlu uneducated(he know **** about WWII in Europe)...so, calm down..... ;)

it wasn't funny, its stupid, but who fukin cares ;) but, If Israel want, sue him.... ;)

[He219]

What the f*** is going on there? the go with this nazi **** and no one tell them to stop?

These are a bit dated but pertinent:
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Swastikas and othe Nazi symbols are used as decoration in a Hong Kong clothing store, as seen on Saturday, Aug. 9, 2003. Israeli and German diplomats have lashed out at a Hong Kong fashion company for using swastikas and other Nazi symbols. The Hong Kong-based firm designed a range of T-shirts and pants with Nazi symbols and launched new decorations this past week in its 14 stores. One branch projected Nazi propaganda films on the shop's wall

[LordHalbert]

Try wearing that stuff in Israel, you won't last long - hehehe

[b.scheller]

good god...this is monstrous...

i think the Fashion Police has to get on China's ass

[mack pl]

/\ 2 years ago I saw in TV, the same decoration in some pub in Hong Kong(or in other city in Asia), so, its fukin weird for us, but for them its only interesting gadgets from Europe...no ideology...only weird and bad Asian style... ;)

[b.scheller]

I don't know whether its the ideology, but it seems that they seem to have some sort of fetish for 3rd Reich militaria.

[DizBukHaPeter]

Asian folks use the swastika as a religous symbol but mostly the youth have a strange fixation with the nazi, not like they support it, they just think looking like a nazi is cool.

[Bombtrack]

oh those wacky asians..

[mack pl]

Asian folks use the swastika as a religous symbol but mostly the youth have a strange fixation with the nazi, not like they support it, they just think looking like a nazi is cool.

agree with that.Its nothing serious, its only weird ;)

[He219]

The Swastika may be an ancient Chinese sybmol, but it's connotation alongside Nazi imagery or German context certainly indicate a fixation, as the Hong Kong fashion pictures indicate ...

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6748/6748857.jpg

Two Nazi-like swastikas are seen on the chest of Japanese robot-like "Robowaru" in this picture taken on Wednesday, April 30, 2003. A figurine of the "Robocon" character is being sold as part of a Coca-Cola promotion in Hong Kong. A rabbi from a Hong Kong synagogue says the toy is unacceptable and stores should stop selling them.

[b.scheller]

the buddhist and hindu version of the swastika, is different from the one most remembered as the swastika Hitler and his lackeys used. Hitler angled his swastika. (http://web.singnet.com.sg/~sidneys/haken.gif)

While the buddhists and many other religions use this one. (http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/6/6b/Swastika1.png) or they reverse it. (http://www.screen.ru/sever/Pictures/swastika.jpg)

The difference is rather big...So its bull**** to say that the swastika's the Chinese use in their fashion "shows" are not of Nazi origin.

[mack pl]

the buddhist and hindu version of the swastika, is different from the one most remembered as the swastika Hitler and his lackeys used. Hitler angled his swastika. (http://web.singnet.com.sg/~sidneys/haken.gif)

While the buddhists and many other religions use this one. (http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/6/6b/Swastika1.png) or they reverse it. (http://www.screen.ru/sever/Pictures/swastika.jpg)

The difference is rather big...So its bull**** to say that the swastika's the Chinese use in their fashion "shows" are not of Nazi origin.

yeah, but for them its nothing wrong. In theirs opinion its only some cool symbol, nothing more. Well,its stupid, but who fukin cares, we cannot nuked them because they have bad sense of style ;) :lol:

[DizBukHaPeter]

oh those wacky asians..

If you think this is wacky, than you should see what Japanese youth are doing nowadays with their goth fashion and fetishes.

Anyways I see alot of Waffen SS reenactors in Japan and it is true that there is no mistaking that these are Nazi symbols. Also I find it ironic that they can freely wear facist symbols yet resent their WW2 past.

[He219]

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/2004729131/$file/DiazKabani040626_low.jpg

Cpl. Maria C. Diaz, from the 1st Force Service Support Group disbursing office, holds an Iraqi baby during a visit to Al Kabani, Iraq, June 26, 2004. Diaz accompanied Marines from 3rd Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment, who visited the village to check on the progress of a $175,000 water purification complex the unit contracted to have built. The complex will bring clean drinking water to nearly 3,000 Iraqis from Al Kabani and another nearby community. The battalion has made regular visits to Al Kabani to deliver donated shoes, school supplies and toys to the children of the village. Elements of the battalion provide security for nearby Camp Taqaddum. Diaz, 23, is from Los Angeles.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20047293113/$file/DeVore040626_Low.jpg

Maj. David DeVore, 38, 3rd Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment's intelligence officer, passes out candy to Iraqi children at Al Kabana, Iraq, on June 26, 2004. The Marines and sailors of the battalion visited the fishing village to check the progress of a $175,000 water purification system that will bring clean water to two villages and as many as 3,000 people near Camp Taqaddum.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20047253412/$file/bankrun1lr.jpgCan anybody ID the origin? (Very tough given the angle)
Hi-Res (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/04eab04095022f3685256ec500349227/$FILE/bankrun1.jpg)

Sgt. Mattew J. Lazarski, noncommisioned officer-in-charge of Regimental Combat Team 7's Civil Affairs Group from Cedar Grove, N.J., inspects one of the cases of AK-47 rifles, which will be given to Iraqi Security Forces. The group, along with support elements, made a two-day trip to supply Security Forces for the next several months.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20047253726/$file/bankrun2lr.jpg

Marines with Regimental Combat Team 7's Civil Affairs Group makes their way down the stairs after picking up payroll for the Iraqi National Guard Bank in Ar Ramadi June 28. The bank run, although dangerous, will enable the regiment to pay the Security Forces in the Al Anabar region for the entire month of June.

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20047254613/$file/bankrun4lr.jpg

Cpl. Michael P. Calhoun, with Regimental Combat 7 from Canon City, Colo., patrols a parking lot outside of an Ar Ramadi bank with other Marines with the headquarters element June 28. The group of Marines provided security for the regiment's Civil Affairs Group as they anticipated an attack while picking up money to pay Iraqi Security Forces for the month of June.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20047254337/$file/bankrun3lr.jpg

Cpl. Jairo Gonzalez, an administrative clerk with Regimental Combat Team 7 and Lance Cpl. Donald J. Hall, also a clerk, carry a box containing 250 million Iraqi dinars from a bank in downtown Ar Ramadi June 28. The money will pay Iraqi Security Forces for the month of June.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20047371047/$file/soveriegn1lr.jpg

For Lance Cpl. Timothy C. Stoll, a rifleman with Company F, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, the events in Baghdad don't change his job. The 20-year-old from Nashville, Tenn. considers himself personally responsible for protecting the forward operating base where he lives while on guard duty. More than a thousand Marines count on him to keep his head clear and focused while on duty, leaving him little time to ponder the events just a few miles north.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20047354025/$file/raid4lr.jpg

Pfc. Patrick C. McCormick, a radio operator with 2nd Platoon, Company K, 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment keeps a close ear on his radio handset during a battalion-sized raid on the small town of As-Serifah, Iraq July 1.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20047353738/$file/raid3lr.jpg

Marines escort a suspected terrorist to a vehicle for further questions after discovering weapons on his property during a battalion-sized raid on the town of As-Serifah, Iraq, July 1. Marine from 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment recently to replace 1st Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20047353548/$file/raid2lr.jpg

Wood crates and a improvised rocket launcher sit in the back of a humvee during a battalion-sized raid by 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, on As-Serifah, July 1.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20047353358/$file/raid1lr.jpg

Cpl. Joseph J. Villa Gomez (left) and Lance Cpl. Roger L. Ogden, both combat engineers with Company K, 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment carry a wood crate of rocket-propelled grenades to their humvee after discovering it in a cropfield at As-Serifah, Iraq, July 1. The battalion's Marines arrived in Iraq a week and a half ago to replace 1st Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment.

[mack pl]

Anyways I see alot of Waffen SS reenactors in Japan .
well, reenact isn't the same what wearing nazi symbol on your T-shirt when you are in pub :roll:

huh, ok, I guess this discuss about Asian style(no style) is boring ;)

best regards

[BusterHyman]

Lets think for a second about the swastika and China. Here is a communist country that has obviously revised history to the extent that its population thinks the Nazis were good guys. The rulers of China are know for things such as human rights abuses, smashing dissent, etc. So why is anyone surpised? What about forced abortions?
Cheers

[RP]

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20047371047/$file/soveriegn1lr.jpg

That is like the most useless place to locate a vertical foregrip...

[PRES_00]

Three words: Get over it !

[b.scheller]

Lets think for a second about the swastika and China. Here is a communist country that has obviously revised history to the extent that its population thinks the Nazis were good guys. The rulers of China are know for things such as human rights abuses, smashing dissent, etc. So why is anyone surpised? What about forced abortions?
Cheers

I don't know whether they think, they were the good guys. Hitler provided KMT uniforms and equipment.

[mack pl]

Lets think for a second about the swastika and China. Here is a communist country that has obviously revised history to the extent that its population thinks the Nazis were good guys. The rulers of China are know for things such as human rights abuses, smashing dissent, etc. So why is anyone surpised? What about forced abortions?
Cheers

nah, its just lack of style ;) No fukin ideology behind it.


shut it

[Pille1234]

Lets think for a second about the swastika and China. Here is a communist country that has obviously revised history to the extent that its population thinks the Nazis were good guys. The rulers of China are know for things such as human rights abuses, smashing dissent, etc. So why is anyone surpised? What about forced abortions?
Cheers
Don't make this another 'China is so evil'-thread. The coca cola advertisement is from Japan, is that a communist country too?

[catchv22]

It's like how some parts of the world the thumbs up and the ok sign are offensive. They don't know it's offensive or the ideology behind it, they just think it's ok.

[He219]

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354513.jpg
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354519.jpg

Iraqi National Guard soldiers cover the street while conducting a weapons raid on a home in Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 3, 2004
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Iraqi National Guard soldiers prepare to enter a home during a weapons raid in Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 3, 2004. For the first time, the 303rd Iraqi National Guard Battalion led the raid, supported by U.S. Army 1st Cavalry soldiers.
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354484.jpg
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354517.jpg

An Iraqi National Guard soldier enters the back of a home during a weapons raid in Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 3, 2004.
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http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354515.jpg

An Iraqi National Guard soldier carries a child from a home during a weapons raid in Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 3, 2004
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354522.jpg

A U.S. Army 1st Cavalry Sgt. Scott Chambless, of San Diego, CA, tests for explosive residue on parts of old aerial bombs found during a weapons raid in Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 3, 2004.

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354326.jpg
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354332.jpg

Thomas Hamill is embraced by an unidentified woman while serving as grand marshall, Saturday, July 3, 2004, during the Fourth of July parade in Macon, Miss. More than 300 people showed up Saturday waving U.S. flags in a the parade featuring Hamill, the truck driver who escaped his Iraqi captors.
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354320.jpg
That's a mean scar ..

Thomas Hamill serves as grand marshall, Saturday, July 3, 2004, during the Fourth of July parade in Macon, Miss. More than 300 people showed up Saturday waving U.S. flags in a the parade featuring Hamill, the truck driver who escaped his Iraqi captors. Hamill, 44, was driving a fuel truck in Iraq for a Halliburton subsidiary when his convoy was ambushed April 9. He was kidnapped and imprisoned in a farmhouse 50 miles north of Baghdad until he escaped on May 2.

[Pille1234]

It's like how some parts of the world the thumbs up and the ok sign are offensive. They don't know it's offensive or the ideology behind it, they just think it's ok.
You say they have never heard of Hitler, Nazis or Auschwitz? Come on, this is Hong Kong and not a jungle tribe newly discovered by Eibl-Eibesfeldt.

[catchv22]

Maybe someone from China or Hong Kong could tell us what they know about the swastika or Nazi ideology. Just because you were taught about all these things doesn't mean everyone else in the world is taught them with the same amount of emphasis.

[He219]

One branch projected Nazi propaganda films on the shop's wall

http://homepage.mac.com/cfj/.Pictures/izzue-nazi-01.jpg

On August 12, the Izzue clothing store chain announced that it had removed all Nazi-themed clothing and decorations from its stores following an international outcry.

[DizBukHaPeter]

It's like how some parts of the world the thumbs up and the ok sign are offensive. They don't know it's offensive or the ideology behind it, they just think it's ok.
You say they have never heard of Hitler, Nazis or Auschwitz? Come on, this is Hong Kong and not a jungle tribe newly discovered by Eibl-Eibesfeldt.

Asians are more insensitive to the Holocaust than Europeans or Americans because they don't think this applies to them and they don't care as much for it. But I do happen to think they do mean not to offend anybody by it, it's just that they are insensitive to the fact.

[S'13]

One branch projected Nazi propaganda films on the shop's wall

http://homepage.mac.com/cfj/.Pictures/izzue-nazi-01.jpg

I hope they are aware of the fact that the Nazis were Japan's biggest allies at the time of the Second World War :roll: :cantbeli:

[He219]

Of course, when their own sensitivities are offended, Chinese reaction is somewhat less restrained:



An unidentified man attacked controversial Chinese starlet Vickie Zhao Wei during a live television broadcast on Friday, the Beijing Evening News said on Saturday.

The actress sparked a furious media campaign this month when she modelled a mini-dress printed with the old Japanese naval flag. The incident triggered a backlash among patriots in China still resentful of Tokyo's past aggression

In southern Hunan province on Friday night a middle-aged man wearing a black leather jacket and a cap rushed the stage where Zhao and about a dozen children were dancing and singing in a live TV broadcast, the Evening News said.

The man grabbed Zhao by the neck with one hand and hit her with the other, knocking her to the ground, it said, citing eyewitnesses. The live broadcast went off the air for 10 minutes.
http://www.gweilodiaries.com/archives/001373.html



"This is Hong Kong, and Chinese people are not sensitive about Nazism," marketing manager Deborah Cheng said after the company's managers met last night. "If you grab 10 young people from the street and ask them if they know what Nazism is, I bet you none of them would answer `yes'.
South China Morning Post

[b.scheller]

being ignorant is easier then being educated...

[ZDL]

thats so right! that puts the whole ****ty behavior in one sentence.

[Mudcat]

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20047371047/$file/soveriegn1lr.jpg

That is like the most useless place to locate a vertical foregrip...



Yeah? Well I see alot'a picutes with guys do'n that and they depend on that weapon to save their lives so...must not be so stupid after all. It's a preference option.

[talib_killa34]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040703/capt.xag10107031724.hong_kong_swastikas_xag101.jpg



Dude, what the hell is that all about???


:(

[szr]

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20047371047/$file/soveriegn1lr.jpg

That is like the most useless place to locate a vertical foregrip...

Seeing as he is a guard tower sentry he probably has the grip farthest back so he can place the foward portion of the weapon on the wall of the tower and sweep it laterally while keeping both hands on the weapon. He'd probably move it up some if he thought he might be doing some CQB or maneuvering outside the compound. ;)

BTW, Great pics of the new Iraqi forces! Keep it up, He! woot

[seruriermarshal]

What the f*** is going on there? the go with this nazi **** and no one tell them to stop?

These are a bit dated but pertinent:
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883400.jpg
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883401.jpg
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883399.jpg

Swastikas and othe Nazi symbols are used as decoration in a Hong Kong clothing store, as seen on Saturday, Aug. 9, 2003. Israeli and German diplomats have lashed out at a Hong Kong fashion company for using swastikas and other Nazi symbols. The Hong Kong-based firm designed a range of T-shirts and pants with Nazi symbols and launched new decorations this past week in its 14 stores. One branch projected Nazi propaganda films on the shop's wall

What's that ?

F**k these sh*t !

:fork:

[Moledet]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040703/capt.xag10107031724.hong_kong_swastikas_xag101.jpg
Death pentalty is on again.

[talib_killa34]

What the f*** is going on there? the go with this nazi **** and no one tell them to stop?

These are a bit dated but pertinent:
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883400.jpg
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883401.jpg
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883399.jpg

Swastikas and othe Nazi symbols are used as decoration in a Hong Kong clothing store, as seen on Saturday, Aug. 9, 2003. Israeli and German diplomats have lashed out at a Hong Kong fashion company for using swastikas and other Nazi symbols. The Hong Kong-based firm designed a range of T-shirts and pants with Nazi symbols and launched new decorations this past week in its 14 stores. One branch projected Nazi propaganda films on the shop's wall

What's that ?

F**k these sh*t !

:fork:



This needs to be said:


WAKE UP MORONS!!!!!! THAT **** IS NOT RIGHT!!!!!

[Freibier]

What the f*** is going on there? the go with this nazi **** and no one tell them to stop?

These are a bit dated but pertinent:
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883400.jpg
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883401.jpg
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883399.jpg

Swastikas and othe Nazi symbols are used as decoration in a Hong Kong clothing store, as seen on Saturday, Aug. 9, 2003. Israeli and German diplomats have lashed out at a Hong Kong fashion company for using swastikas and other Nazi symbols. The Hong Kong-based firm designed a range of T-shirts and pants with Nazi symbols and launched new decorations this past week in its 14 stores. One branch projected Nazi propaganda films on the shop's wall

What's that ?

F**k these sh*t !

:fork:



This needs to be said:


WAKE UP MORONS!!!!!! THAT **** IS NOT RIGHT!!!!!
That's real digusting ****, I'd like to hear a comment from our chinese members ...
If those guys have a fascination for Germany, why don't they stick to Bach and Beethoven? :bash:
And what makes me really mad is when they mix nazi insignia and the flag of the Bundesrepublik :fork: :fork:

[b.scheller]

i agree frei...

[talib_killa34]

I know. :(

I'm curious to know what some German forum members would say too...



I know in America and Europe there are many NeoNazis and "skinheads" with the Nazi ideology and swaztikas but these are people in Asia shopping for clothes in a department store?????



That is just ill'in. :cantbeli:

[Freibier]

I wonder if those chinese realize what Adolf and Japan would have done to them if Germany won the war ...

[uTu]

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354515.jpg

An Iraqi National Guard soldier carries a child from a home during a weapons raid in Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 3, 2004
nice pic! among many. is not the sort of photo shown in mainstream press

[ZoneOne]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040703/capt.xag10107031724.hong_kong_swastikas_xag101.jpg


A young asian boy ask's his friend on the phone if he thinks he is a racist **** for wearing this shirt. Hong Kong July 03 2004 AP.

[talib_killa34]

I thought this was a chick... :lol:

[Hellfish]

Ok, yeah, the German-themed swastikas are ****ed up. But simply saying that the Chinese should give up that symbol is idiotic. They've been using it for well over 2000 years and they're not going to give up a part of their religious heritage (at least the not-so-flagrantly Nazi depictions) because it offends people they don't even care about. So just stop bitching about it...

It's ****ed up, but so is the whole world. Shut up.

[Freibier]

It's f*** up, but so is the whole world. Shut up.
How about NO?
And last time I checked, there were no ironcrosses, nazi eagles and ss runes in chines mythology...

[SiFiOn]

Some moving pictures in here again He219!

[talib_killa34]

Ok, yeah, the German-themed swastikas are f*** up. But simply saying that the Chinese should give up that symbol is idiotic. They've been using it for well over 2000 years and they're not going to give up a part of their religious heritage (at least the not-so-flagrantly Nazi depictions) because it offends people they don't even care about. So just stop bitching about it...

It's f*** up, but so is the whole world. Shut up.


It is f***ed up, and no one was talking about the ancient symbols!

All that stuff is straight out of Third Reich circa 1939, there is NO reason for any one to be making fashion statements from that and then feign ignorance!

There is much to say when people are this stupid, and I WILL NOT BE QUIET!

[obd]

Well, while you guys are all focused on the Swastika's in China bull****, I found myself saddened even more by the story of that young Marine who was wounded in the shoulder but kept fightng and even killed an enemy Iraqi and never stopped defending his buddies even after being shot.........What an absolute tragedy that the man died Thursday in Anbar province......Jeez, I guess he kept up the fight even with a round going through his shoulder and kept going out with his men and his buddies after than instead of taking med leave........RIP............

It is just my humble opinion but that man deserves a medal to honor his sacrifices and if he has any children or family, the American people owe that mans family SUPPORT FOR LIFE!!!!! In other words, America should make sure his funeral is paid for 100%, his wife has enough money to feed his family without having to put her kids in daycare so she can work all day long, and his children had better have college paid for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Prez. Bush had better make sure that mans family, and all the other families who depended on thier soldiers (who are now dead or so badly wounded they cannot work) to put bread on the table are 100% taken care of..........I may not support the Iraq war but I sure as hell support our boys over there..........I have no problem if my taxes go to them.......its a thousand times better than my taxes going to our congressmen and senators so they can vote themselves pay raises while at the same time talking about the "importance of sacrifice".......WAR IS YOUNG MEN DYING AND OLD MEN THRIVING........

[talib_killa34]

Well, while you guys are all focused on the Swastika's in China bull****, I

I'm hardly writing my congressman about all this. This forum is for sounding off on subjects and that is what I am doing.

The marine in Iraq (RIP) is an important story as are other things in this f'd up world, that's why they have news papers and CNN, to report it.

Why does having a care about some idiot "fashion" designers using Nazi symbols of power mean I don't care about anything else? I read up on the situation in Iraq everyday.

Stop trying to be a martyr. :|

[memphiz]

Great pics He219 :D
Crazy Asians :cantbeli:
RIP Marine

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354517.jpg
This guy seems to have alot of equipment for a home search (elbow/knee pads)

[usa320]

IS it just me or does he look very caucasian?

[EvanL]

IS it just me or does he look very caucasian?
I dont know.
But i do know that he is a homo-erectus.
*school girl giggle* tee hee

[szr]

IS it just me or does he look very caucasian?

Nah I think it's just that as time wears on, the Iraqi sand and dust deposit on eveything and men and material all begin to look similar... Dusty and similar.

[seruriermarshal]

Well, while you guys are all focused on the Swastika's in China bull****, I found myself saddened even more by the story of that young Marine who was wounded in the shoulder but kept fightng and even killed an enemy Iraqi and never stopped defending his buddies even after being shot.........What an absolute tragedy that the man died Thursday in Anbar province......Jeez, I guess he kept up the fight even with a round going through his shoulder and kept going out with his men and his buddies after than instead of taking med leave........RIP............

It is just my humble opinion but that man deserves a medal to honor his sacrifices and if he has any children or family, the American people owe that mans family SUPPORT FOR LIFE!!!!! In other words, America should make sure his funeral is paid for 100%, his wife has enough money to feed his family without having to put her kids in daycare so she can work all day long, and his children had better have college paid for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Prez. Bush had better make sure that mans family, and all the other families who depended on thier soldiers (who are now dead or so badly wounded they cannot work) to put bread on the table are 100% taken care of..........I may not support the Iraq war but I sure as hell support our boys over there..........I have no problem if my taxes go to them.......its a thousand times better than my taxes going to our congressmen and senators so they can vote themselves pay raises while at the same time talking about the "importance of sacrifice".......WAR IS YOUNG MEN DYING AND OLD MEN THRIVING........

You don't know , why we must fight with terrorists , attack their root! Attack instigation hatred and violence country.

[ch703]

OORAH!

[dugdug]

what we wear is none of your damn business mates, this is hong kong, we wont care.

[Identity31690]

what we wear is none of your damn business mates, this is hong kong, we wont care.

Pure ignorance... you're a disgrace to the Asian race.

[talib_killa34]

what we wear is none of your damn business mates, this is hong kong, we wont care.



Wear a t-shirt with a picture of concentration camp bodies from Auschwitz and that would be just as appropriate...


Disgusting. :bash:

[Romulus]

what we wear is none of your damn business mates, this is hong kong, we wont care.

Hey A-hole. How bout we start wearing t-shirts with pictures of the Nanjing Massacre and see how much you enjoy it!

Just another Anti-Semitic thing out of Anti-Semitic China.

[Fintin]

im not a big fan of the nazis....they get on my nerves....

[b.scheller]

who is?

[Fintin]

who is?


bob barker

[gilgoul]

what we wear is none of your damn business mates, this is hong kong, we wont care.

That is what is pathetic in this story.
Either you`re a suporter of those Mofo`s and are a neo Nazi, so death is a good thing compared to what i`d like to do to you, but just be coherent and don`t wear the flag of modern germany with it, it`s an insult.
Otherwise, you`re ****ing ingnorant people, even of your own history, by wearing he symbols of your occupier`s ally, you imply some kind of weird messsage, so maybe so kind of therapy could be good for you.
:fork:

[PYCB]

[quote]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040703/capt.xag10107031724.hong_kong_swastikas_xag101.jpg[quote]
I think the reason he wear this is because he is in Hong Kong and nobody cares he wearing Nazi's symbol or not, and he will never espect his photo will be post on foregin website.
However, I agree this is the biggest problem for Youth in Asian, becuase most of them are spending their life on focus fasion but knowledge. So, the youngman wearing this is only for Fasion not Nazi. His problem is he doesn't thinks about this symbol means to victims in WW II.

[sgtleemh]

/\ 2 years ago I saw in TV, the same decoration in some pub in Hong Kong(or in other city in Asia), so, its fukin weird for us, but for them its only interesting gadgets from Europe...no ideology...only weird and bad Asian style... ;)

though very much ashamed to admit, think it(or a very similar case) happened where i live. it was a bar named after Third Reich or something.

the day it came up on the press, either Isaraeli embassy or German (or both of them) made an official complaint to the municipal authority, and the bar had to change its decoration.

it is also embarassingly true that some asians have less of emotional animosity against Nazism, though they Know it's wrong.

[talib_killa34]

what we wear is none of your damn business mates, this is hong kong, we wont care.

That is what is pathetic in this story.
Either you`re a suporter of those Mofo`s and are a neo Nazi, so death is a good thing compared to what i`d like to do to you, but just be coherent and don`t wear the flag of modern germany with it, it`s an insult.
Otherwise, you`re f*** ingnorant people, even of your own history, by wearing he symbols of your occupier`s ally, you imply some kind of weird messsage, so maybe so kind of therapy could be good for you.
:fork:



Among ignorant people of the world, this HAS to be the all time grand champeen right here!

It's as if the last 60 years or so never existed and no history books ever recorded the crimes that were commited by the Third Reich and Hitler!


MIGOD! :cantbeli:

[b.scheller]

I think even skinheads would kick this stupid kid's ass... rofl

[PeoplesPoster]

what we wear is none of your damn business mates, this is hong kong, we wont care.

Hey A-hole. How bout we start wearing t-shirts with pictures of the Nanjing Massacre and see how much you enjoy it!

Just another Anti-Semitic thing out of Anti-Semitic China.

The funny thing is most young westerners wouldn't know what the Nanjing Massacre was. I don't see why he should know what the holocaust was.

And stop throwing anti-semitic around, thats done way to often nowadays. China was one of the few countries that Jews in WWII escaped too and were allowed to stay.

The guy most likely has no idea what the symbol stands for, and even if he did, he would see it as some far away concept that dosent apply to him in any way.

[mack pl]

what we wear is none of your damn business mates, this is hong kong, we wont care.

Hey A-hole. How bout we start wearing t-shirts with pictures of the Nanjing Massacre and see how much you enjoy it!

Just another Anti-Semitic thing out of Anti-Semitic China.

The funny thing is most young westerners wouldn't know what the Nanjing Massacre was. I don't see why he should know what the holocaust was.

And stop throwing anti-semitic around, thats done way to often nowadays. China was one of the few countries that Jews in WWII escaped too and were allowed to stay.

The guy most likely has no idea what the symbol stands for, and even if he did, he would see it as some far away concept that dosent apply to him in any way.
and he have bad style ;)

[mack pl]

I think even skinheads would kick this stupid kid's ass... rofl

nah, I think they could be schocked :P :cantbeli: and he could have chance to escape ;) :lol:

[PeoplesPoster]

and he have bad style ;)

Yes he does have bad style, but I don't think it's correct to call him a neonazi or whatever some people are claiming. The whole idea of asian nazi's is rediculous.

[mack pl]

and he have bad style ;)

Yes he does have bad style, but I don't think it's correct to call him a neonazi or whatever some people are claiming. The whole idea of asian nazi's is rediculous.

agree, but many people here are very sensitive, well, Im Pole, so, those kind of symbols are some kind of insults for me too, but I see he is only uneducated dude, with bad style, and its not his ideology, coz he know **** about this ideology ;)

ohh well, for me its funny, he looks like clown ;)

"Yoda say bad style he have"

[SpikeATGM]

They are just insensitive and ignorant. In no way are they idolizing the Nazis. Most hongkey youth are just blindly following fashion trend and think it cool. Once this trend dies down, no one would bother wear those things out.

And for hongkey businessmen, they wouldn't care much about how others feel so long they can make money.

[Freibier]

edit, read your post the wrong way :oops:

[Ghostwolf]

They are just insensitive and ignorant. In no way are they idolizing the Nazis. Most hongkey youth are just blindly following fashion trend and think it cool. Once this trend dies down, no one would bother wear those things out.

And for hongkey businessmen, they wouldn't care much about how others feel so long they can make money.

I will say not just in HK, there are also a lot of ignorant assheads in China and Japan, who think it is cool to wear Nazi related stuff. Nonetheless these new generation people's historical awareness and their family, school educations regarding the brutalities committed by the German Nazis during WW2 are a complete failure. For the Asian countries other than Japan itself, they emphasized too much on what the Imperial Japan army did during the panasian invasion war and often neglect the other Axis Powers. As for the Chinese, the factor such as the Chinese nationalism also has to do with this ignorance as well.

[J-10]

What the f*** is going on there? the go with this nazi **** and no one tell them to stop?

These are a bit dated but pertinent:
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883400.jpg
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883401.jpg
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883399.jpg

Swastikas and othe Nazi symbols are used as decoration in a Hong Kong clothing store, as seen on Saturday, Aug. 9, 2003. Israeli and German diplomats have lashed out at a Hong Kong fashion company for using swastikas and other Nazi symbols. The Hong Kong-based firm designed a range of T-shirts and pants with Nazi symbols and launched new decorations this past week in its 14 stores. One branch projected Nazi propaganda films on the shop's wall

These Hong Kong traders are so stupid and ignorant !!:fork: :fork:

If this case occur in mainland of China, they will be arrested by polices immediately, and be punished severely.

[J-10]

They are just insensitive and ignorant. In no way are they idolizing the Nazis. Most hongkey youth are just blindly following fashion trend and think it cool. Once this trend dies down, no one would bother wear those things out.

And for hongkey businessmen, they wouldn't care much about how others feel so long they can make money.

I will say not just in HK, there are also a lot of ignorant assheads in China and Japan, who think it is cool to wear Nazi related stuff. Nonetheless these new generation people's historical awareness and their family, school educations regarding the brutalities committed by the German Nazis during WW2 are a complete failure. For the Asian countries other than Japan itself, they emphasized too much on what the Imperial Japan army did during the panasian invasion war and often neglect the other Axis Powers. As for the Chinese, the factor such as the Chinese nationalism also has to do with this ignorance as well.

Ghostwolf, pls wake up! look at these Japanese idiots: damn it! :fork:
http://bbs.yesuo.com/bbs/UploadFile/200372713133515174.jpg
http://bbs.yesuo.com/bbs/UploadFile/200372713134555001.jpg

[PeoplesPoster]

They are just insensitive and ignorant. In no way are they idolizing the Nazis. Most hongkey youth are just blindly following fashion trend and think it cool. Once this trend dies down, no one would bother wear those things out.

And for hongkey businessmen, they wouldn't care much about how others feel so long they can make money.

I will say not just in HK, there are also a lot of ignorant assheads in China and Japan, who think it is cool to wear Nazi related stuff. Nonetheless these new generation people's historical awareness and their family, school educations regarding the brutalities committed by the German Nazis during WW2 are a complete failure. For the Asian countries other than Japan itself, they emphasized too much on what the Imperial Japan army did during the panasian invasion war and often neglect the other Axis Powers. As for the Chinese, the factor such as the Chinese nationalism also has to do with this ignorance as well.

Hah thats rich, don't try to lump this into some Asian country thing. There's plenty of people in the west who are equally ignorant and insensitive. I know for a fact that the US education system hardly touches on Imperial Japan's brutality during WW2. When I was in highschool there was barely a chapter dedicated to Japan in WW2, it was mainly focused on Europe and how the US saved everyone. So why would you expect asian countires to do any better? Like I said before, basic education( at least in history) will mostly emphasize events that directly affected ones country.

[Freibier]

What the f*** is going on there? the go with this nazi **** and no one tell them to stop?

These are a bit dated but pertinent:
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883400.jpg
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883401.jpg
http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/6883/6883399.jpg

Swastikas and othe Nazi symbols are used as decoration in a Hong Kong clothing store, as seen on Saturday, Aug. 9, 2003. Israeli and German diplomats have lashed out at a Hong Kong fashion company for using swastikas and other Nazi symbols. The Hong Kong-based firm designed a range of T-shirts and pants with Nazi symbols and launched new decorations this past week in its 14 stores. One branch projected Nazi propaganda films on the shop's wall

These Hong Kong traders are so stupid and ignorant !!:fork: :fork:

If this case occur in mainland of China, they will be arrested by polices immediately, and be punished severely.
Thanks for your response J-10,
glad to hear that :hug:

[Sorbas2000]

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354182.jpg
Hotty and can play a little bit of tennis, some other Russian broad must be pissed!

Beautiful blond lolita won against ugly tennis monster! Nice to see, that not only Williams monsters can play tennis!

[szr]

^^get real :cantbeli:

[SpikeATGM]

They are just insensitive and ignorant. In no way are they idolizing the Nazis. Most hongkey youth are just blindly following fashion trend and think it cool. Once this trend dies down, no one would bother wear those things out.

And for hongkey businessmen, they wouldn't care much about how others feel so long they can make money.

I will say not just in HK, there are also a lot of ignorant assheads in China and Japan, who think it is cool to wear Nazi related stuff. Nonetheless these new generation people's historical awareness and their family, school educations regarding the brutalities committed by the German Nazis during WW2 are a complete failure. For the Asian countries other than Japan itself, they emphasized too much on what the Imperial Japan army did during the panasian invasion war and often neglect the other Axis Powers. As for the Chinese, the factor such as the Chinese nationalism also has to do with this ignorance as well.


All this young punks only want to have fun and go after what is trendy. They do not really care much about history and current affair. And i seriously wonder if they are even aware of how their grandfather suffer under the japs. So how do we expect them to know what the Nazis did half the world away?

All this chaps should deserve abit of nazis treatment so they will know this is not something to make fun about.

[DizBukHaPeter]

I dunno bout all you people but i think german clothing looks badass, not the symbols or insignia but style of clothing.

[ZeroPositive]

this has been going on for ages in HK, when I was there saw some t-shirts saying some concentration camp name and holiday camp next to it...
I agree that it is totally wrong for them to wear it, and I see it more as a fashion thing more then a neo nazi thing.

Saying that there should be an improvement in education about the atrocities during the second world war, and I doubt the mainland chinese would care if people started wearing Nazi t-shirts etc, as long as it doesn't openly pose a threat to the mainland government, they wouldn't bother about it... so J-10 ur wrong mate...
The amount of stuff the Mainland gov turns a blind eye to is amazing...

Sorry if this has offended any Israeli's I don't it would be the intention of any Hong Kong person to do such a thing.
Sadly there are no laws prohibiting the wearing or production of such things in Hong Kong or Asia for that matter, so some clothing companies find it is a good marketing ploy and it is a real disappointment, as it doesn't represent the Hong Kong people.

The thing is when say the Japs wear Nazi uniforms, or the Brits or Yanks especially Waffen SS they are re-enacting... and I don't see so much written against them so I can understand where some people in HK say why is it when we wear such clothing it is so wrong?

Anyway HK people can be a bunch of money minded people but they are not bad at heart.

[ZeroPositive]

I dunno bout all you people but i think german clothing looks badass, not the symbols or insignia but style of clothing.

I have to agree, the German uniforms were meant to inspire fear and command respect, strangely enough Waffen SS uniforms demand the most on the historic collectors market.

Out of most collected items again the SS comes out top, the powerful imagery use of Runes and the deaths head still fasinates many today.

Hopefully people will remember the cruel/inhumane things the SS did as well.

Also what the Japanese did, got to mention them as they did not only kill soldiers, but the civilian population suffered due to Japanese occupation.

[b.scheller]

they look very aryan don't they...

http://bbs.yesuo.com/bbs/UploadFile/200372713134555001.jpg

rofl

[ZeroPositive]

I don't think they care too much about not being white :)

[[AFSOC]]

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354182.jpg
Hotty and can play a little bit of tennis, some other Russian broad must be pissed!

Beautiful blond lolita won against ugly tennis monster! Nice to see, that not only Williams monsters can play tennis!

Serena Williams is hot...got them thunder thighs and big ole ass :)

[ZeroPositive]

]

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354182.jpg
Hotty and can play a little bit of tennis, some other Russian broad must be pissed!

Beautiful blond lolita won against ugly tennis monster! Nice to see, that not only Williams monsters can play tennis!

Serena Williams is hot...got them thunder thighs and big ole ass :)

Yeah aren't u meant to put Serena's photo instead of the uber hot Maria...
ever have all the blood rush to ur loins and u passout due to a monster errection... *Faints*

[fred_engles]

they look very aryan don't they...

http://bbs.yesuo.com/bbs/UploadFile/200372713134555001.jpg
Actually, the guy reading looks a bit like Himmler.

[ZeroPositive]

More like Tojo :)

[talib_killa34]

they look very aryan don't they...

http://bbs.yesuo.com/bbs/UploadFile/200372713134555001.jpg
Actually, the guy reading looks a bit like Himmler.


I don't even want to know what he was reading that day either!


These guys are so confused.... rofl

[American Patriot]

He's probably reading a speech about how killing all zee Joos would be wunderbar.

[radon]

Lets think for a second about the swastika and China. Here is a communist country that has obviously revised history to the extent that its population thinks the Nazis were good guys. The rulers of China are know for things such as human rights abuses, smashing dissent, etc. So why is anyone surpised? What about forced abortions?
Cheers

umm no. No real communist would say that. Communists were always "anti-fascists and anti-imperialists" , but they would never said anything good about nazis. Communist propaganda which I have seen was never like that , more like Usa bad imperialists etc. Someone called in ddr that wall the antifascisct protectionwall and so on. Maybe the chinese communist media was different , but I dont think any communist will ever say anything good about Nazis.

And about the nazis. Walk around wearing some japanese symbols from ww2 in south china and look at the reaction? Then do the same thing somewhere on the other side of the world ...

[PeoplesPoster]

Lets think for a second about the swastika and China. Here is a communist country that has obviously revised history to the extent that its population thinks the Nazis were good guys. The rulers of China are know for things such as human rights abuses, smashing dissent, etc. So why is anyone surpised? What about forced abortions?
Cheers

umm no. No real communist would say that. Communists were always "anti-fascists and anti-imperialists" , but they would never said anything good about nazis. Communist propaganda which I have seen was never like that , more like Usa bad imperialists etc. Someone called in ddr that wall the antifascisct protectionwall and so on. Maybe the chinese communist media was different , but I dont think any communist will ever say anything good about Nazis.

And about the nazis. Walk around wearing some japanese symbols from ww2 in south china and look at the reaction? Then do the same thing somewhere on the other side of the world ...

Exactly, I've seen lots of people here in the US who wear the Imperial Japanese flag (rising sun with rays) as a design on their t-shirt. It's considered pop culture here, but if you were to wear it somewhere in asia you'd get alot of pissed off people.

[Tengu]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040703/capt.xag10107031724.hong_kong_swastikas_xag101.jpg
Hmm, my family used to kill people who wore this ****. Wait untill i tell them those folks were just dumbass teens :cantbeli:

[ibstolidude]

they look very aryan don't they...

http://bbs.yesuo.com/bbs/UploadFile/200372713134555001.jpg
Actually, the guy reading looks a bit like Himmler.


I don't even want to know what he was reading that day either!


These guys are so confused.... rofl
The specials for the evening will be.....................

[b.scheller]

its funny how these guy's try to re-enact and yet they fail to cut their hair to regulation size. They're trying to reenact the SS, if you had as much as one button undone they'd sent you to the Eastern Front... :roll:

So the guy with long hair...

[radon]

they look very aryan don't they...

http://bbs.yesuo.com/bbs/UploadFile/200372713134555001.jpg

rofl

:cantbeli: Those people are just so distracted. rofl

Where is that image with the 3 or 4 japanese nazis march with the flag in front of a rainy looking backround. Where are the black nazis, wasnt there some in Sweden?

[seruriermarshal]

what we wear is none of your damn business mates, this is hong kong, we wont care.

Hey A-hole. How bout we start wearing t-shirts with pictures of the Nanjing Massacre and see how much you enjoy it!

Just another Anti-Semitic thing out of Anti-Semitic China.

The funny thing is most young westerners wouldn't know what the Nanjing Massacre was. I don't see why he should know what the holocaust was.

And stop throwing anti-semitic around, thats done way to often nowadays. China was one of the few countries that Jews in WWII escaped too and were allowed to stay.

The guy most likely has no idea what the symbol stands for, and even if he did, he would see it as some far away concept that dosent apply to him in any way.

Yes perhaps you send some pic of young westerners wear old Japanese uniform ?

F**k you !

:fork:

[PeoplesPoster]

what we wear is none of your damn business mates, this is hong kong, we wont care.

Hey A-hole. How bout we start wearing t-shirts with pictures of the Nanjing Massacre and see how much you enjoy it!

Just another Anti-Semitic thing out of Anti-Semitic China.

The funny thing is most young westerners wouldn't know what the Nanjing Massacre was. I don't see why he should know what the holocaust was.

And stop throwing anti-semitic around, thats done way to often nowadays. China was one of the few countries that Jews in WWII escaped too and were allowed to stay.

The guy most likely has no idea what the symbol stands for, and even if he did, he would see it as some far away concept that dosent apply to him in any way.

Yes perhaps you send some pic of young westerners wear old Japanese uniform ?

F**k you !

:fork:

Hohoho look at this. Plenty of western kids have no idea what sort of atrocities took place in Asia during WWII. I'm not going to hold them acountable for knowing these things, and I certainly won't assume that they are pro imperial Japan just because they think it's cool to wear a Japanese flag as part of their clothing. So take a chill pill and piss off.

[Ghostwolf]

I will say not just in HK, there are also a lot of ignorant assheads in China and Japan, who think it is cool to wear Nazi related stuff. Nonetheless these new generation people's historical awareness and their family, school educations regarding the brutalities committed by the German Nazis during WW2 are a complete failure. For the Asian countries other than Japan itself, they emphasized too much on what the Imperial Japan army did during the panasian invasion war and often neglect the other Axis Powers. As for the Chinese, the factor such as the Chinese nationalism also has to do with this ignorance as well.

Ghostwolf, pls wake up! look at these Japanese idiots: damn it! :fork:
http://bbs.yesuo.com/bbs/UploadFile/200372713133515174.jpg
http://bbs.yesuo.com/bbs/UploadFile/200372713134555001.jpg

Your English proficiency is quite laughable. I DID NOT said it is cool to wear Nazi stuff,
I said there are people out there who think that way, so get that into your thick commie skull,
and believe me there idiots in China who's doing the exact same thing
like those Japs.

Thanks for your response, now here's mine http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/14/14_6_1.gif

[Howitz]

Hohoho look at this. Plenty of western kids have no idea what sort of atrocities took place in Asia during WWII. I'm not going to hold them acountable for knowing these things, and I certainly won't assume that they are pro imperial Japan just because they think it's cool to wear a Japanese flag as part of their clothing.
-I couldn't agree more, I argued with this one kid about dropping the bombs on japan and used Nanking as part of my argument, he didn't have a freakin' clue what I was talking about and thought I was making it up. The school system teaches us absolutley nothing about imperial japan, it jumps from Pearl Harbor to Hiroshima & Nagasaki. (the same goes for russia, Stalingrad? WTF is Stalingrad?)
I think an experiment is in order, one person wear a shirt adorned with the swastika, another with the rising sun to school, and see what kind of s**t goes down.

[J-10]

http://photo.sohu.com/2004/01/01/80/Img217718039.jpg
http://photo.sohu.com/2004/01/01/80/Img217718040.jpg
http://photo.sohu.com/2004/01/01/80/Img217718042.jpg
http://www.china918.net/91807/newxp/images/news/118-1.jpg

Japan PM's shrine visit illegal
A Japanese court has ruled that Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's visits to a controversial shrine are illegal.
A number of war criminals are honoured at the Yasukuni shrine, which Mr Koizumi has visited four times since taking office in 2001.

A district court said that the visits breached Japan's constitutional separation of religion and state.

But Mr Koizumi said that he found the ruling "strange" and would go to the shrine again in the future.

"I don't know why it violated the constitution," he said.

Government officials have argued that Mr Koizumi's visits were made as a private citizen and therefore did not breach the constitutional separation of church and state.

YASUKUNI SHRINE
Built in 1869 to honour victims of the Boshin Civil War
Now venerates the souls of 2.5m of Japan's war dead
Those enshrined include 14 Class A war criminals

The BBC's Tokyo correspondent says the Japanese public is divided over the shrine's symbolism, with vocal minorities on the right and left supporting and opposing the prime minister's visits.
'Fantastic'

The hearing in Fukuoka, southern Japan, concerned a visit made by the prime minister to Yasukuni in August 2001.

The case had been brought by 211 people, some of whom were relatives of war dead and other members of religious groups.


"This is a fantastic ruling that clearly acknowledges the prime minister's visit to Yasukuni as unconstitutional," said Tsuneaki Gunjima, leader of the plaintiffs, on Wednesday.

Chief Justice Kiyonaga Kamegawa ruled that Mr Koizumi had made the visit in his official capacity as prime minister.

Other groups have brought similar cases in the past, but this is the first time that a court has ruled against the prime minister.

However, Mr Kamegawa rejected claims for compensation from plaintiffs who said they had suffered mental anguish.

Last month, another district court threw out a case in which relatives of war dead had tried to stop Mr Koizumi visiting the shrine.

Scepticism

Neighbouring countries, who suffered from Japanese militarism and colonialism in the years before and during the Second World War, have frequently complained about Mr Koizumi's visits - the most recent of which took place on 1 January.

South Korea and China both made diplomatic protests, with Beijing's Deputy Foreign Minister Wang Yi expressing what he called "righteous indignation" on behalf of the people of Asia.

On Wednesday, a South Korean government official who did not wish to be named told ******* news agency it was "difficult to imagine" that the ruling would put an end to the issue.

The China Daily, China's leading state newspaper, said in a commentary that Mr Koizumi's repeated visits to the Yasukuni Shrine had tied relations with Beijing "in a fast knot".

Among those honoured at Yasukuni are Japan's wartime Prime Minister Hideki Tojo, hanged for war crimes in 1948.

In earlier comments about the controversy, Mr Koizumi suggested it was wrong to "comment about another country's respect of its history, traditions or customs".
BBC NEWS (http://conversations.tamu.edu/topics/2004spr/04a_3_japanPMshrine.htm)

[Ichhabe]

http://www.buddel.de/bs/fl_taiw.jpg

This could be cool wearing on a t-shirt. In the same way it will show my support for Taiwan. :D

[rodin_hsu]

http://www.buddel.de/bs/fl_taiw.jpg

This could be cool wearing on a t-shirt. In the same way it will show my support for Taiwan. :D

You have no idea of what are you supporting Ichhabe.
This flag is an emblem of Republic of China(ROC), the democratic China.
However, in the last decade, politics changed dramatically in Taiwan.
The Taiwan separatists made use of the democracy provided by ROC to construct a new country. Therefore, the flag that you support would be abandon in the coming few years. And it implies the war between Taiwan and China (PRC, People's Republic of China).
Ironically, it is 'CHINA' to stand up for this flag, that you are supporting.

Furthermore, it is these Taiwan separatists that sympathy with the Japanese War crimes in World War II. Hence, the Taiwan separatists as to most of Chinese just as to you the Hong Kong youth, who weared the Nazi symbol costume.

So you see what's the point? You, especially Americans, are supporting the people that wearing Nazi costume and be proud of that!!
That is the reason China definitely will fight for it. And you are blocking on the road for the reason that you don't really know.

[ChuckThunder]

All I have to say is that those guys dressing up as Nazis play too many WWII video games and/or hate Indiana Jones so much that they dress up as his enemies to mock him and his fan base.

[Ichhabe]

http://www.buddel.de/bs/fl_taiw.jpg

This could be cool wearing on a t-shirt. In the same way it will show my support for Taiwan. :D

You have no idea of what are you supporting Ichhabe.
This flag is an emblem of Republic of China(ROC), the democratic China.
However, in the last decade, politics changed dramatically in Taiwan.
The Taiwan separatists made use of the democracy provided by ROC to construct a new country. Therefore, the flag that you support would be abandon in the coming few years. And it implies the war between Taiwan and China (PRC, People's Republic of China).
Ironically, it is 'CHINA' to stand up for this flag, that you are supporting.

Furthermore, it is these Taiwan separatists that sympathy with the Japanese War crimes in World War II. Hence, the Taiwan separatists as to most of Chinese just as to you the Hong Kong youth, who weared the Nazi symbol costume.

So you see what's the point? You, especially Americans, are supporting the people that wearing Nazi costume and be proud of that!!
That is the reason China definitely will fight for it. And you are blocking on the road for the reason that you don't really know.

But, but,... It is such a cool symbol. I just like it for the flag. Nothing wrong with that? Even if I do not know the background story. Eh?

[memphiz]

http://www.buddel.de/bs/fl_taiw.jpg

This could be cool wearing on a t-shirt. In the same way it will show my support for Taiwan. :D

You have no idea of what are you supporting Ichhabe.
This flag is an emblem of Republic of China(ROC), the democratic China.
However, in the last decade, politics changed dramatically in Taiwan.
The Taiwan separatists made use of the democracy provided by ROC to construct a new country. Therefore, the flag that you support would be abandon in the coming few years. And it implies the war between Taiwan and China (PRC, People's Republic of China).
Ironically, it is 'CHINA' to stand up for this flag, that you are supporting.

Furthermore, it is these Taiwan separatists that sympathy with the Japanese War crimes in World War II. Hence, the Taiwan separatists as to most of Chinese just as to you the Hong Kong youth, who weared the Nazi symbol costume.

So you see what's the point? You, especially Americans, are supporting the people that wearing Nazi costume and be proud of that!!
That is the reason China definitely will fight for it. And you are blocking on the road for the reason that you don't really know.

But, but,... It is such a cool symbol. I just like it for the flag. Nothing wrong with that? Even if I do not know the background story. Eh?
That would make a cool shirt eh Ichhabe...or mabey even a cape :P :D

[seruriermarshal]

what we wear is none of your damn business mates, this is hong kong, we wont care.

Hey A-hole. How bout we start wearing t-shirts with pictures of the Nanjing Massacre and see how much you enjoy it!

Just another Anti-Semitic thing out of Anti-Semitic China.

The funny thing is most young westerners wouldn't know what the Nanjing Massacre was. I don't see why he should know what the holocaust was.

And stop throwing anti-semitic around, thats done way to often nowadays. China was one of the few countries that Jews in WWII escaped too and were allowed to stay.

The guy most likely has no idea what the symbol stands for, and even if he did, he would see it as some far away concept that dosent apply to him in any way.

Yes perhaps you send some pic of young westerners wear old Japanese uniform ?

F**k you !

:fork:

Hohoho look at this. Plenty of western kids have no idea what sort of atrocities took place in Asia during WWII. I'm not going to hold them acountable for knowing these things, and I certainly won't assume that they are pro imperial Japan just because they think it's cool to wear a Japanese flag as part of their clothing. So take a chill pill and piss off.

Hmmm....
Seems like you don't know that's the illegal behavior where in western . Because law .

[Ichhabe]

Definatly a cape. I would run around the Chineese capitol with my 100 ft. cape floating behind me.

You see, that is the fun part about the Chineese. Totally so polite and correct. Smiling and all that. But mentioning Taiwan to them, they totally flip out ninja-style. Hmm, interesting. Wonder what triggers it?

[PeoplesPoster]

what we wear is none of your damn business mates, this is hong kong, we wont care.

Hey A-hole. How bout we start wearing t-shirts with pictures of the Nanjing Massacre and see how much you enjoy it!

Just another Anti-Semitic thing out of Anti-Semitic China.

The funny thing is most young westerners wouldn't know what the Nanjing Massacre was. I don't see why he should know what the holocaust was.

And stop throwing anti-semitic around, thats done way to often nowadays. China was one of the few countries that Jews in WWII escaped too and were allowed to stay.

The guy most likely has no idea what the symbol stands for, and even if he did, he would see it as some far away concept that dosent apply to him in any way.

Yes perhaps you send some pic of young westerners wear old Japanese uniform ?

F**k you !

:fork:

Hohoho look at this. Plenty of western kids have no idea what sort of atrocities took place in Asia during WWII. I'm not going to hold them acountable for knowing these things, and I certainly won't assume that they are pro imperial Japan just because they think it's cool to wear a Japanese flag as part of their clothing. So take a chill pill and piss off.

Hmmm....
Seems like you don't know that's the illegal behavior where in western . Because law .

Excuse me? I know plenty well what legal behavior here in the west, considering that I live in fricken Texas, thats about as western as you get. It is perfectly legal (and in most cases socially acceptable) to wear the imperial Japanese flag as part of your clothing, because that flag does not have the same connotations it does in Asia. Vice versa for the swastika in Asian nations.

[SpikeATGM]

and believe me there idiots in China who's doing the exact same thing
like those Japs.

Thanks for your response, now here's mine http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/14/14_6_1.gif

Dun think so. mainlander have a very different fashion sense compare to the japs and honkey.

[haze99]

HE219, those rifles are from Bulgaria. They are made by Arsenal in Kazanlak, Bulgaria. These AR-M1 (AK-47) models. Not sure if they are export models(?)
Surprising, since Iraq is already full of Kalashnikov's!? They need more of these like, a Michael Moore needs another cheeseburger!

[indigo_prime]

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354515.jpg

An Iraqi National Guard soldier carries a child from a home during a weapons raid in Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 3, 2004
nice pic! among many. is not the sort of photo shown in mainstream press

This pic made page 7 of Stars and Stripes for Mon 5 Jul 04 so it looks like some people are finally picking up on the humanitarian side of the conflict.

[Ezra Coli]

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7354/7354515.jpg

An Iraqi National Guard soldier carries a child from a home during a weapons raid in Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 3, 2004
nice pic! among many. is not the sort of photo shown in mainstream press

I hope he doesn't have a round chambered...

[memphiz]

Definatly a cape. I would run around the Chineese capitol with my 100 ft. cape floating behind me.

You see, that is the fun part about the Chineese. Totally so polite and correct. Smiling and all that. But mentioning Taiwan to them, they totally flip out ninja-style. Hmm, interesting. Wonder what triggers it?
Haha yeah...they're crazy

[rodin_hsu]

Definatly a cape. I would run around the Chineese capitol with my 100 ft. cape floating behind me.

You see, that is the fun part about the Chineese. Totally so polite and correct. Smiling and all that. But mentioning Taiwan to them, they totally flip out ninja-style. Hmm, interesting. Wonder what triggers it?
Haha yeah...they're crazy

Hmm ... I think that also applicable to westerners.
When we mentioned swastikas or some Nazi symbol .... :fork:
We have seen the reactions in this thread, don't we?

[Hiroshima]

What surprises me is that no one's mentioned the WW2 reenactors who portray Waffen SS troops. They have swastikas on their uniforms. I used to wear a WW2 German Dogtag on a chain around my neck, not because of the nazi symbol on it, but becuase of the military tradition my family carries. I'm not defending the Chinese...and being a US Military Brat, I'm watching the Chinese with a bit of paranoia. But they're free to wear it and ignore it. Frankly, it's right up there with the old communist symbol (a.k.a. hammer and scyth), and the confedrate flag for the immoral ideas, but chill folks...they probably don't read European history....or just say that the tactics used by the Nazis were similar to theirs and therefor should be mimiced...distasteful and disgusting, but not cause to panic just yet.

As for the other pictures here, it's nice to see that the Iraqi National Guard is somewhat up and running. Shame though that they're still undermanned and not fully trained.

[Abbyy]

Tiny addon about Belorussia :)

http://oko.by/photo/data/523/417p02682t.jpg?6806

[AFCOP]

RIP SGT. CONDE, I'M SURE GOD HAS WELCOMED YOU WITH OPEN ARMS. I PRAY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

[2RHPZ]

The soldiers are from Company C, 1st Battalion, 252nd Armor. The company is based in Southern Pines.

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/2712/10166344E.jpg

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/2444/10166346E.jpg

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/2870/10166349E.jpg

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/420/10166351E.jpg

[2RHPZ]

http://img5.exs.cx/img5/1963/013_001a.jpg

http://img5.exs.cx/img5/1089/009_001.jpg

[ZeroPositive]

sweet photos :D

[seruriermarshal]

Definatly a cape. I would run around the Chineese capitol with my 100 ft. cape floating behind me.

You see, that is the fun part about the Chineese. Totally so polite and correct. Smiling and all that. But mentioning Taiwan to them, they totally flip out ninja-style. Hmm, interesting. Wonder what triggers it?
Haha yeah...they're crazy

Hmm ... I think that also applicable to westerners.
When we mentioned swastikas or some Nazi symbol .... :fork:
We have seen the reactions in this thread, don't we?

That's your reactions ! You didn't understand that is a crime?

:fork:

[talib_killa34]

WWII re-enactors are not selling a clothing merchandise in a Hong Kong department store either.


At least they closed the display after much barking over it. It's good some people have SOME sense. :bash:

[epc]

http://www.buddel.de/bs/fl_taiw.jpg

This could be cool wearing on a t-shirt. In the same way it will show my support for Taiwan. :D

You have no idea of what are you supporting Ichhabe.
This flag is an emblem of Republic of China(ROC), the democratic China.
However, in the last decade, politics changed dramatically in Taiwan.
The Taiwan separatists made use of the democracy provided by ROC to construct a new country. Therefore, the flag that you support would be abandon in the coming few years. And it implies the war between Taiwan and China (PRC, People's Republic of China).
Ironically, it is 'CHINA' to stand up for this flag, that you are supporting.

Furthermore, it is these Taiwan separatists that sympathy with the Japanese War crimes in World War II. Hence, the Taiwan separatists as to most of Chinese just as to you the Hong Kong youth, who weared the Nazi symbol costume.

So you see what's the point? You, especially Americans, are supporting the people that wearing Nazi costume and be proud of that!!
That is the reason China definitely will fight for it. And you are blocking on the road for the reason that you don't really know.

That flag represents Republic of China. Republic of China now exists only in Taiwan. If he supports Taiwan, that flag will be the one that he supports. The fact that now there different groups of people in Taiwan who have different ideas about the future of Taiwan does not change the association of that flag to Taiwan. The fact that a democratic Taiwan allows different ideas to compete for people's votes adds laurels to that flag. Wearing or supporting that flag cannot be compared to wearing or supporting the swastika symbol.

Taiwan "separatists" are merely people whose idea of Taiwan's future differs from yours. They have nothing to do with Japanese war criminals or Nazi's. Your message is full of nothing but slanderous stereotypes used by Communist China to portray the "separatists." And it is telling that the majority of Taiwan's voters also disagrees with your views.

[epc]

http://www.buddel.de/bs/fl_taiw.jpg

This could be cool wearing on a t-shirt. In the same way it will show my support for Taiwan. :D

You have no idea of what are you supporting Ichhabe.
This flag is an emblem of Republic of China(ROC), the democratic China.
However, in the last decade, politics changed dramatically in Taiwan.
The Taiwan separatists made use of the democracy provided by ROC to construct a new country. Therefore, the flag that you support would be abandon in the coming few years. And it implies the war between Taiwan and China (PRC, People's Republic of China).
Ironically, it is 'CHINA' to stand up for this flag, that you are supporting.

Furthermore, it is these Taiwan separatists that sympathy with the Japanese War crimes in World War II. Hence, the Taiwan separatists as to most of Chinese just as to you the Hong Kong youth, who weared the Nazi symbol costume.

So you see what's the point? You, especially Americans, are supporting the people that wearing Nazi costume and be proud of that!!
That is the reason China definitely will fight for it. And you are blocking on the road for the reason that you don't really know.

That flag represents Republic of China. Republic of China now exists only in Taiwan. If he supports Taiwan, that flag will be the one that he supports. The fact that now there different groups of people in Taiwan who have different ideas about the future of Taiwan does not change the association of that flag to Taiwan. The fact that a democratic Taiwan allows different ideas to compete for people's votes adds laurels to that flag. Wearing or supporting that flag cannot be compared to wearing or supporting the swastika symbol.

Taiwan "separatists" are merely people whose idea of Taiwan's future differs from yours. They have nothing to do with Japanese war criminals or Nazi's. Your message is full of nothing but slanderous stereotypes used by Communist China to portray the "separatists." And it is telling that the majority of Taiwan's voters also disagrees with your views.

[BravoSix]

That flag represents Republic of China. Republic of China now exists only in Taiwan. If he supports Taiwan, that flag will be the one that he supports. The fact that now there different groups of people in Taiwan who have different ideas about the future of Taiwan does not change the association of that flag to Taiwan. The fact that a democratic Taiwan allows different ideas to compete for people's votes adds laurels to that flag. Wearing or supporting that flag cannot be compared to wearing or supporting the swastika symbol.

Taiwan "separatists" are merely people whose idea of Taiwan's future differs from yours. They have nothing to do with Japanese war criminals or Nazi's. Your message is full of nothing but slanderous stereotypes used by Communist China to portray the "separatists." And it is telling that the majority of Taiwan's voters also disagrees with your views.

Well said...I don't get why people sometimes just "label" certain groups of people as "xxx group"...etc, it really isn't fair to associate others with certain identity without looking at the issue from an objective point of view