Al Jazeera say's beheadings are "morale boosters".

[TheBlackHand]

Dunno if this has been posted before/yet.

Looks like Al Jazeera is promoting a pragmatic approach to the beheading problem.

I wouldn't have expected anything less from them.


Decapitation: Execrable but Effective. (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/3567453C-FD1D-4FAC-A185-A2637E2B61BB.htm)
By Faisal Bodi

Saturday 03 July 2004, 22:57 Makka Time, 19:57 GMT


Given the choice most people would opt for a straight bullet to the head rather than have it sawn off with a cutlass.

But so far personal preference has not figured highly in the modus operandi of Iraqi and Saudi insurgents for whom decapitation has become the method of choice for dispatching POW's and collaborators.

Until the shooting dead in June of US soldier Keith Maupin the insurgents had made a point of beheading their captives and disseminating the grisly scenes over the Internet.

Most people would recoil at the mere thought but experts say that is precisely the aim. In war, ascendancy in the horror stakes can be a major battlefield gain.

"It gives people an enormous feeling of their own power that they can threaten this fate to their opponents," believes Professor Ian Robins, a London-based traumatic stress psychologist who specialises in treating war prisoners.

While it serves as a morale booster for the perpetrators, it has the converse effect on their opponents.

"It's a well thought through strategy. It's exactly the kind of thing that damages enemy morale," said Robins.

"There are several weapons like this which are negligible in terms of pure military value but because they have this extremely horrific aspect their use causes much more damage."

Military ramifications

According to another British psychologist, the act can have far-reaching consequences in the field.

"It's a well thought through strategy. It's exactly the kind of thing that damages enemy morale"

Professor Ian Robins, London-based traumatic stress psychologist

"It is a very effective arrow in the heart of the opposition. If a soldier knows that if he gets captured he is not coming back it may induce him to freeze on the job or to make mistakes," Simon Meyerson told Aljazeera.

The captive himself becomes a weapon for his captors, a tool for the transmission of horror to the rest of the enemy, effective in proportion to the level of his fear.

"They very quickly fall into one of two groups; those whose minds and emotions freeze and who stay emotionless, and those who go into a state of terror and disintegrate losing all emotional structure and defiance," he added.

While South Korean captive Kim Sun-il reacted by breaking down and pleading desperately for his life, US freewheeler Nicholas Berg appeared calm and resigned to his fate.

The act also gives insurgents another advantage. In an age where wars are fought as much on TV as on the battlefield, they no longer need actual victories. The battle, says Meyerson, can be "won with a single dramatic visual impact."

Political success

It is at this political level that the tactic has earned insurgents their greatest success. While big exchange demands such as the cancellation of troop deployments or mass prisoner releases have been rejected, more modest aims have been realised.

This week two Turkish workers being held in Iraq were freed after their company promised to stop working for US forces.

Across the Arabian Gulf strife-stricken Saudi Arabia is witnessing an exodus of skilled western expatriates following a wave of killings by insurgents aiming to end what they see as foreign plunder of their country.

In South Korea, the capture of Kim Sun-il brought thousands of people onto the streets to protest the planned deployment of 3000 troops in Iraq.

Public opinion

By turning his family into celebrity anti-war campaigners the beheading of Nicholas Berg became a political gain for his killers.

"The acts are a sure way of making governments look incompetent by showing they are powerless to stop them despite the fact that they might pour billions of dollars into the campaign," said Professor Robins.

Nothing succeeds like success and so long as the acts continue to put pressure on enemy governments there is little incentive for the perpetrators to stop, according to Robins.

"Behaviour is maintained or increased by its consequences. This (beheadings) gets an enormous amount of attention and scrutiny and therefore it is highly likely it will continue."

The latest beheading of US marine Wassef Ali Hassoun would seem to underline the point.

I think they left out the part about how fear of a savage beheading might make your enemy fight just as savagely to avoid it.

Too bad the Marine Corps' hands will be tied by their own politicians, otherwise I'm sure they'd be happy to demonstrate how to fight savagely for paypack.

[obd]

Well, on the reverse side commiting crimes like beheading prisoners also makes the enemy all the more passionate about destroying you.......It also makes them highly unlikely to surrender in the future.......

As we all know, America's very humane treatment of Iraqi POW's during the first Gulf War helped the war effort tremendously by convincing Iraqi's that they could surrender by the hundreds of thousands and be treated fairly............So instead of fighting them by the thousands, all we had to do was feed them........

Personally, I think its high time American special forces formed groups like the old "SOG" groups of Vietnam war ays who used highly unconventional and brutal tactics and really hurt the NVA and VC forces.......mostly by hurting morale.....

In fact, I think that American special forces should have locater beacons placed inside thier bodies and then give themselves every opportunity to be captured (without looking too obvious) and then it would lead us right to the groups safe house......Then Delta or DEVGRU or whatever could launch an assault.........and maybe plant a 10 lbs. block of C4 explosive inside them too so if anything went wrong and the operator couldnt be rescued he could then blow himself up when all the terrorist scum were around him...........just a few ideas........It would take real balls to do a thing like that but it would be highly effective....high risk/high payoff potential.......Just a crazy idea!!!!!

[usa320]

Im all for dropping the E-bomb on Al-****era's headquarters and jamming their signal round the clock.

[Yard Ape]

obd,
You want US SF soldiers to become suicide bombers? Sounds like a waste to me. Not to mention the discomfort that would go with just carrying a 10 lbs explosive supository.

While the article does neglect to mention the risks of a backlash, it is generally accurate (but too optimistic). These acts of terrorism have scared people from the middle east, and they have caused US citizens to question the merits of the US presence in Iraq. However, I do not think this approach could ever bring the terrorists victory. More people will dig in thier heels than will people choose to give-up.

No war has ever been won by terrorism. That will not change.

[budanski]

I wonder if Al Jazeera suddenly changed its policy and not show these execution videos by giving the terrorists an outlet to spread their message, things would be a little different. I'm sure it would go against the arab world's bedrock in freedom of speech.

[gilgoul]

other apologetic bullcrap.
When you know your not going to be a POW, but a piece of meat at the ercy of your "host", ther`s no way you "freeze", you kill the enemy and keep the last one for yourself.

[Flagg]

Well, on the reverse side commiting crimes like beheading prisoners also makes the enemy all the more passionate about destroying you.......It also makes them highly unlikely to surrender in the future.......

As we all know, America's very humane treatment of Iraqi POW's during the first Gulf War helped the war effort tremendously by convincing Iraqi's that they could surrender by the hundreds of thousands and be treated fairly............So instead of fighting them by the thousands, all we had to do was feed them........

Personally, I think its high time American special forces formed groups like the old "SOG" groups of Vietnam war ays who used highly unconventional and brutal tactics and really hurt the NVA and VC forces.......mostly by hurting morale.....

In fact, I think that American special forces should have locater beacons placed inside thier bodies and then give themselves every opportunity to be captured (without looking too obvious) and then it would lead us right to the groups safe house......Then Delta or DEVGRU or whatever could launch an assault.........and maybe plant a 10 lbs. block of C4 explosive inside them too so if anything went wrong and the operator couldnt be rescued he could then blow himself up when all the terrorist scum were around him...........just a few ideas........It would take real balls to do a thing like that but it would be highly effective....high risk/high payoff potential.......Just a crazy idea!!!!!

Key word being crazy

[OB Kenobi]

Well, on the reverse side commiting crimes like beheading prisoners also makes the enemy all the more passionate about destroying you.......It also makes them highly unlikely to surrender in the future.......

As we all know, America's very humane treatment of Iraqi POW's during the first Gulf War helped the war effort tremendously by convincing Iraqi's that they could surrender by the hundreds of thousands and be treated fairly............So instead of fighting them by the thousands, all we had to do was feed them........

Al Qaeda and Iraq are two different things. Al Qaeda is not an army, they don't intend to face US troops, they exist on the sidelines and spread destruction to destabilize Iraq. They don't care about how the US treats Iraqis, and it would actually benefit them if the US treated Iraqis badly.

[ZeroPositive]

I just bloody hate the stance in the style of reporting it has been utter rubbish..

[Scottie]

LoL And I live in the same country where Al-Jazeera is based! woot :bash: :bash:

[Brozozo]

Morale booster eh? I thought that Abu Gharib prison scandal was a great morale booster too, puts a smile on my face sometimes...

F*ckin Al-J, people should start hacking their site again...

[usa320]

We should wipe them off the face of the earth.

Hit em with the ****ing e-bomb.

I dont think we can gain the upperhand unless we cut off the terrorists ability to produce propaganda.

And frankly, they behead to get the TV attention. Take away Al_Jazeera and they have no point to behead anyone.

[Secret Squirrel]

We should wipe them off the face of the earth.

Hit em with the f*** e-bomb.

I dont think we can gain the upperhand unless we cut off the terrorists ability to produce propaganda.

And frankly, they behead to get the TV attention. Take away Al_Jazeera and they have no point to behead anyone.

take away one station and they have no point to cut off someone's head? A bit simplistic no? And of course none of these videos ever get put online. :roll:

[ShadowNeo]

Hit em with the f*** e-bomb.

Thats your solution for everything :) .

[usa320]

take away one station and they have no point to cut off someone's head? A bit simplistic no? And of course none of these videos ever get put online

No, not simplistic. Its looking at the big strategic picture.

The insurgents chop off someone's head. They drop it in a VHS on AJ's beaureu station's doorstep. They throw it up on TV. ****** gets it off TV and throws it all over the web.

It makes a nice recruiting video and propaganda for them.

Deny them the ability to play these videos, and there goes any reason of making them in the first place.

These guys love attention that AJ gives them.

And we launched the satellites that AJ is using to broadcast, so why the hell cant we just block them out...

:cantbeli:

[Praetorian 05]

We could send the whole of the MiddleEast back to the Stone age. But the bleeding heart liberals that are ruining the US, would Not Stand for such behavior.
Anyone ever notice the similarities of US history and that of the Roman Empire? The Romans grew through aggressive acts of their Military, and ended through the weaknesses of their immoral Government.

[Secret Squirrel]

take away one station and they have no point to cut off someone's head? A bit simplistic no? And of course none of these videos ever get put online

No, not simplistic. Its looking at the big strategic picture.

The insurgents chop off someone's head. They drop it in a VHS on AJ's beaureu station's doorstep. They throw it up on TV. ****** gets it off TV and throws it all over the web.

It makes a nice recruiting video and propaganda for them.

Deny them the ability to play these videos, and there goes any reason of making them in the first place.

These guys love attention that AJ gives them.

And we launched the satellites that AJ is using to broadcast, so why the hell cant we just block them out...

:cantbeli:

So you think if we ignore the terrorists they'll just go away? Or if we ignore the beheading footage or if one news network doesnt show it, then the terrorists will stop taking hostages? :cantbeli:


We could send the whole of the MiddleEast back to the Stone age. But the bleeding heart liberals that are ruining the US, would Not Stand for such behavior.
Anyone ever notice the similarities of US history and that of the Roman Empire? The Romans grew through aggressive acts of their Military, and ended through the weaknesses of their immoral Government.

The only people who would stand for "send[ing] the whole middleEast back to the stone age" would be young teens those with the mentality of young teens.

[Kilgor]

the middle east never really got out of the stoneage.
a example would people still being stoned to death for crimes and women treated like animals.

well.. hmmm.. thanks to foreigners setting up oil wells i guess it did.

[Secret Squirrel]

the middle east never really got out of the stoneage.
a example would people still being stoned to death for crimes and women treated like animals.

well.. hmmm.. thanks to foreigners setting up oil wells i guess it did.

hrm women treated like animals...no that never happens this side of the pond. :cantbeli: And people would be stoned to death if certain "kids" were empowered. But i guess we need to go to the middle east and remove all their metal, electricity, gas, cars...etc for them to be in the stone age. :roll:

[Kilgor]

look up what sharia law is and see how many places its used in the ME.

Even in "civilized" countries like saudia arabia.

That religion comes straight from the stone age, dont try and even justify it.

[Secret Squirrel]

look up what sharia law is and see how many places its used in the ME.

Even in "civilized" countries like saudia arabia.

That religion comes straight from the stone age, dont try and even justify it.

My point was, the differences between this side of the pond and that one arent as completely different as you would like to think; it's not black and white.

[Praetorian 05]

Secret Squirrel
With your daddy's money which paid for your various degrees and has given you such infinite wisdom, NOTHING you say provides a direction to get anything accomplished. It is obvious you are a middle of the road kinda person. You actually never make a stand or a point on any subject. You somehow derive importance out of sniedly commenting on everyone elses opinions or ideas.
If possible, make an original statement that is not middle of the road. Pick a side, and make some solid contribution to the society of your choosing.
People like you tend to waste oxygen. The truth is; until you have the nads to step up to the plate, and put your money where your mouth is; you are a drain on the country you call home.

[Sayeret]

In fact, I think that American special forces should have locater beacons placed inside thier bodies and then give themselves every opportunity to be captured (without looking too obvious) and then it would lead us right to the groups safe house......Then Delta or DEVGRU or whatever could launch an assault.........and maybe plant a 10 lbs. block of C4 explosive inside them too so if anything went wrong and the operator couldnt be rescued he could then blow himself up when all the terrorist scum were around him...........just a few ideas........It would take real balls to do a thing like that but it would be highly effective....high risk/high payoff potential.......Just a crazy idea!!!!!

ummm, :lol:

[n4292936]

Secret Squirrel
With all your daddy's money which paid for all your various degrees and has given you such infinite wisdom, NOTHING you say provides a direction to get anything accomplished. It is obvious you are a middle of the road kinda person. You actually never make a stand or a point on any subject. You somehow derive importance out of sniedly commenting on everyone elses opinions or ideas.
If possible, make an original statement that is not middle of the road. Pick a side, and make some solid contribution to the society of your choosing.
People like you tend to waste oxygen. The truth is; until you have the nads to step up to the plate, and put your money where your mouth is; you are a drain on the country you call home.
the problem with being a moderate is that you'll necessarily clash with both the right and left of you. It does not, however, necessarily mean that you are on the fence.
Implicit in SS's rejection of several ideas is his own stance on the issue - which he ussually elaborates on in each post.
No need to insinuate nasty things regarding who paid for what degree, Im on my second masters and no one paid for it but me, you dont know that to not be the case with SecretSquirell.

[Praetorian 05]

And your point is............

Moderate; is that the politically correct word for indecisive now days?

2nd Masters what was wrong with the first one? Why do people assume that a number of degrees is impressive. Obviously you have spent the majority of your life in a classroom. Well there is another world outside the classroom. So now that you have proven that you can research and prepare various papers, MAKE A FARGIN DECISION! GET OFF THE FENCE.

This world requires hardline and timely decisions. By the time you post riders debate a situation it's too late.

[n4292936]

Actually Ive worked full time while at university and my bringing up the issue was to illustrate the point that people dont always ride on daddy's money to get a degree, but thanks for pointing out that there's a world outside of the classroom - I almost missed it. :roll:
Moderate means that you tend to be less leftist than a communist and less rightist than a facist (or in American terms, you have sympathies with both Democrats and Republicans but are not bound by party affiliations). It has nothing to do with sitting on a fence, the word is merely a place marker in the spectrum of ideological preferences. If you click on my, or SS's name and go through the past posts I think you'll find several instances of a strong position being taken - so far all I see you doing is insulting others.

[Praetorian 05]

You didn't answer my question. Why another degree? If you had made the right decision in the first place you wouldn't have a need for a 2nd Master's.

Why would someone like you even post on a sight such as this? What is it; you like hanging out with the Big boys? Or do you just search all the sites that are geared toward real men?

No one that is involved in life and death situations daily, gives a 3&it what you think. It 's bags like you that make guys like me ask; is it really worth it. But then I realize it's not you bags I'm here for. It's the men and women that HAVE MADE A DECISON, and are here with me!

[n4292936]

The two postgraduate degrees compliment one another - though they are not directly related. I have an interest in both subject areas as well - I've never believed that a University's function is entirely to make one employable. Its purpose is also to educate. Anyway, I've pursued these two degrees because they make me an excellent candidate for my chosen career path. Dont bother asking me to elaborate on the last point.

[Secret Squirrel]

Secret Squirrel
With your daddy's money which paid for your various degrees and has given you such infinite wisdom, NOTHING you say provides a direction to get anything accomplished. It is obvious you are a middle of the road kinda person. You actually never make a stand or a point on any subject. You somehow derive importance out of sniedly commenting on everyone elses opinions or ideas.
If possible, make an original statement that is not middle of the road. Pick a side, and make some solid contribution to the society of your choosing.
People like you tend to waste oxygen. The truth is; until you have the nads to step up to the plate, and put your money where your mouth is; you are a drain on the country you call home.

I paid my own way through school. I worked during my undergrad doing whatever **** job i could find. My M.A was more or less paid for by the school i attended because of my grades during my undergrad (teaching assistantship, fellowships, awards..etc). As n4292936 pointed out, if you look back over some of my posts you'll see my stance on various issues. But of course my comments pale in comparsion to you're wonderful "bomb them back to the stone age" comments. By your own logic, you're a waste of space and oxygen because your comments arent realistic.


You fight fire with fire. General Pershing quelled a Muslim uprising by dealing with insurgents in a way that they can comprehend.
When you deny a Holy warrior his chance to meet Allah. You take the fight out of him.
These people aren't dediated to the cause, they are ignorant. They live in poverty, so it's not hard for them to be manipulated through their religion to go to a better place.
Seven virgins in paradise! Sounds great to a dude who spent all his life in a craphole with smelly, ugly women.

Do you still believe either a nuke or an urban legend is the end-all-be-all answer to finishing the war on terror?

[Praetorian 05]

Stay in School and stay off drugs.
To answer to your questions; yes. Obviously you wouldn't have the balls to do it.

By the way; did you dodge an IED on your way to the office this morning!

[Praetorian 05]

You college types are too easy!!!!!!!!!!
I just wonder if you would be as bold in a face to face situation. I highly doubt it. What scares you the most is; you realize that nothing you've learned has prepared you to deal with any life or death confrontation.
The reason you frequent such sites is because you feel like you can hang with the real deal, and you don't have to worry about having to backup you opinion.
I came to this site to exhange with others like myself that have experienced what you have only read about. You really ought to stick to sites for which you are better suited. Men's Health probably has some awesome articles for your enjoyment.

I pity you.

[Secret Squirrel]

Stay in School and stay off drugs.
To answer to your questions is yes. Obviously you wouldn't have the balls to do it.

Did you dodge an IED on your way to the office this morning!

The balls to nuke a country to fix a problem? I prefer to think that I dont have the lunacy to think or suggest genocide as a possible solution to the war on terror. As well, most people arent gullible enough to think that an urban legend is a solution either. woot

[Praetorian 05]

Weak!
I suppose you think that Osama and the Gang would stop short of such tactics if they had the capability!

Remember this exchange when they bring it to your door. Then you will wish that something would have been done.

You obviously can not comprehend the mindset of Islamic terrorists. You can not reason with them. The only thing you can do is remove them. So why lose American lives, when we have the means to save them?

So please stick to the books, and I'll stick to baggin the bad guys.

[Secret Squirrel]

Weak!
I suppose you think that Osama and the Gang would stop short of such tactics if they had the capability!

Remember this exchange when they bring it to your door. Then you will wish that something would have been done.

You obviously can not comprehend the mindset of Islamic terrorists. You can not reason with them. The only thing you can do is remove them. So why lose American lives, when we have the means to save them?

So please stick to the books, and I'll stick to baggin the bad guys.

Thank god people with your mentality arent in power. Genocide to solve a problem, wow you're support would make Hitler proud. And urban legends? Someone correct me if i'm wrong, i'm really not too sure about this, but isnt Radical Islam based on fatwa, which can be changed? So you faith in an urban legend is kind of missplaced. You obviously cant comprehend that terrorism is a tactic and not a set number of bad guys that are terrorists and once you kill them all terrorism will simply cease to exist.

Just incase you missed this thread...
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=355474&highlight=#355474

[chauncy republicans]

You obviously cant comprehend that terrorism is a tactic and not a set number of bad guys that are terrorists and once you kill them all terrorism will simply cease to exist.
I would say that a vast majority of people everywhere are'nt able to comprehend this. A shame really...

[n4292936]

You college types are too easy!!!!!!!!!!
I just wonder if you would be as bold in a face to face situation. I highly doubt it. What scares you the most is; you realize that nothing you've learned has prepared you to deal with any life or death confrontation.
The reason you frequent such sites is because you feel like you can hang with the real deal, and you don't have to worry about having to backup you opinion.
I came to this site to exhange with others like myself that have experienced what you have only read about. You really ought to stick to sites for which you are better suited. Men's Health probably has some awesome articles for your enjoyment.

I pity you.
:D This was too good to pass up
Lets start off with the obvious fact that most of your officers probably have college degree - having attended university doesn't make one weak, innefectual, or a pacifist. It makes one educated and better able to comprehend the ramifications of a decision on several levels. More often than not, it's people with college degrees that set the policy for people on the ground to carry out, or that lead the people on the ground, so lets not get all anti'education here.
As for life and death confrontations... I've had my fair share as one of the perks of having to put myself through college was that I had the priviledge of bouncing in the seedier side of the city where I've had knifes and needles pulled on me and more than one bottle broken in front of me as a weapon. But thanks all the same for making ridiculous assumptions about the course of my life.

[Praetorian 05]

Well, to further enlighten you fine examples of manhood. Most all senior military above the rank of E-6 have a degree. The difference between the military with education and your type is; they decided to use the education to make a difference, while you have chosen to sit on your a$$es and let some one else protect you. If you are so knowledgeable go find a Recruiter, and put your money where your mouth is. Be a man, put YOUR A$$ in harms way. Then maybe men who matter might listen to your weak opinions. You have done nothing in life that qualifies your opinions on matters such as this thread. The pinnacle of your life is to visit websites where Warriors hangout.

WoW!! Someone pulled a knife and another a broken bottle on you. You are seasoned fighter! If that is all I had to be concerned about facing, life would be so much easier. Obviously they didn't know how to use either, or you wouldn't be on this site making your annoying comments.

So continue your condescending posts to people that are living a life you can't fathom. One day one of us lessor thans will pull your weak asses out of it harms way, and you won't have the common courtesy to say thanks to the guy. I learned a long time ago to look over the educated fools that abound. You haven't the gift of common sense, or you would know that nuclear devices aren't neccessary to put the enemy on it's knees. (A position I'm sure you are familiar with!)

[n4292936]

The difference between the military with education and your type is; they decided to use the education to make a difference
uuum right, no one can make a difference unless they're just like you right? The people that dicatate when you go to war, the training you should receive, the course of your life as a soldier are people like me, so dont talk to me about making a difference. The world is stratified by people who make a difference of various levels, from those who influence minor local events like what street is secure, to those who help coordinate policy and intelligence to ensure a threat is negated, an adversary checked, or a rival outgunned. You are the former, I am the latter.

you have chosen to sit on your a$$es and let some one else protect you. If you are so knowledgeable go find a Recruiter, and put your money where your mouth is.
I'm hardly relying on you to protect me, I cannot recall one large scale military deployment in the last 60 years, with the exepction of A-stan, where American forces were directly involved in "protecting" America. You are a tool used to impliment foreign policy, nothing more, so don't over-glorify yourself Captain America. Incidentally, I am at the Australian Defence Force Academy - identical to America's West Point, so once again don't assume I'm talking from a position of naivety.


One day one of us lessor thans
just as long as you know your place boy
p-)


You haven't the gift of common sense, or you would know that nuclear devices aren't neccessary to put the enemy on it's knees. weren't you the genius that suggested we blow them all to kingdom come? I dont recall ever advocating nuclear weapons

[Praetorian 05]

I said send them back to the Stone Age. I never mentioned a nuclear device.

You are a limp wristed, no ball college boy; nothing else. You have been bested in every thing you've attempted in your miserable naive life.
If you were standing face to face with me, you would have nothing to say. For all that you are on a computer website, you are nothing in real life.

Face it, you will never be worth your weight in $#it!

Have a boring life. You Twit!

[n4292936]

You have been bested in every thing you've attempted in your miserable naive life. rofl rofl Oh do tell how I've been bested, please do tell rofl :roll:

You are a limp wristed, no ball college boy I always enjoy it when people use the term "college boy" as an insult. It invariably used to deride those with an education by those who are utterly lacking in one. Going to college is so bad isnt it!? When I have kids, Im not sending them to college cause then they'll end up being "college boys" and we cant have that. Having someone in the family that's graduated from an institution of higher education would spoil your familial track record wouldnt it rofl

If you were standing face to face with me, you would have nothing to say. why, because you are so big and tough ... could that statement have possibly been any more juvenile? You never quite grew out of that tenth grade school yard mentality did you there?


Face it, you will never be worth your weight in $#it! now now, dont be upset because its my kind who are and always will be your boss and social better. Now go eat your fried chicken and grits boy rofl


Have a boring life. You Twit! My my, you are quick with the witty retorts today aren't you p-)

[Praetorian 05]

rofl I actually just won a bet! Thank you! rofl rofl rofl

And for the record, I have a college degree also. It however has no bearing in this situation. Regardless of your socalled superiority, you regressed to replying in kind to someone whom you have never met, and chances never will.

When you felt aggression you replied with the same. Human nature! You are no better than a school aged minor. rofl rofl rofl rofl
Take a psych class, you need it. :petting:

Any real man knows you don't eat fried chicken with grits! :slap:

I guess you missed that one in your Culinary Arts class.

You're boring! Post something of interest based on your experience in the military, something that happened during your tour in a combat zone! rofl

It really bothers you that you have led such mundane life. That's OK, someone has to ride a desk! :petting:

[n4292936]

rofl I actually just won a bet! Thank you! rofl rofl rofl

And for the record, I have college also. It however has no bearing in this situation. Regardless of your socalled superiority, you regressed to replying in kind to someone whom you have never met, and chances never will.

When you felt aggression you replied with the same. Human nature! You are no better than a school aged minor. rofl rofl rofl rofl
Take a psych class, you need it. :petting:
well done, you've deduced what species I come from. I seem to recall you responding in kind - albeit with less skill and implied humour. For example, I didnt "regress" to calling you a limp risted anything, or suggest that your life wouldnt amount to **** - I think I took the high road if anything.
My response mirrored your post to a degree, and its true that responding to aggression is human nature. How that makes one the equivelant of a school aged minor (a tautology by the way) is beyond me. I think the term you were searching for is "human".
Oh, and of course the college issue has relevance, your last few insult laden posts have consistently poked fun at some aspect of college attendance.

[n4292936]

keep editing your posts to make them sound better, you'll get there ;)

[Tane Angle]

You are a limp wristed, no ball college boy; nothing else.
Zheng He was pretty accomplished; he was very educated, a military officer, and a eunuch. Just saying.

n4292936 is studying to become a soldier. That's all the walking the walk we can expect. Soldiers aren't born, they're made, and he's in the making.



You college types are too easy!!!!!!!!!!
I just wonder if you would be as bold in a face to face situation. I highly doubt it. What scares you the most is; you realize that nothing you've learned has prepared you to deal with any life or death confrontation.
The reason you frequent such sites is because you feel like you can hang with the real deal, and you don't have to worry about having to backup you opinion.
I came to this site to exhange with others like myself that have experienced what you have only read about. You really ought to stick to sites for which you are better suited. Men's Health probably has some awesome articles for your enjoyment.

I pity you.
I went to college. I even hope to begin teaching it soon. What's your point? What scares college educated people the most? You think you know? What scares me personally the most is that there was never any hope for the hostages in Lebanon, because if there wasn't, then a lot of things change. That and ****y-traps and landmines. They scare me too.

So how bold do you think I would be in a combat situation?

Nukes wouldn't solve today's problems, they'd just forfeit the moral high ground, which we need.

So what is the argument here? That college-educated people are weak, but only when they're not military officers? Or that we should nuke the Middle East?

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

[Secret Squirrel]

The more you post Praetorian, the more you sound like tacticalmanta. It's funny really, both manta and you were the only people i can remember encountering on this site that pretty much said "you have to respect me and i'm so much better than you because i'm in the military." Both your respective rants are pretty much couched in the same rhetoric. Both of you try to hurl insults, and when they arent responded to and someone questions your ideas, you hurl a couple more insults and move on. I asked you specifically if you think a nuke or an urband legend was your ultimate solution to the war on terror. You responded by saying i wouldnt have the "balls". If you werent talking about a nuke, you should have clarified, but ofcourse i think you're "nuke retraction" was just an attempt for you to save face. You said i'd never understand the mindset of a terrorist. I pointed out that you dont seem to understand that it's a tactic. Every time you've attempted to present what you thought was a credible idea, someone has offered a counter point, and you ignore this counter point and hurl a couple more insults. And the strangest thing is that you're insults are couched in the rhetoric of a high school kid (much like your suggestion to send the Middle East back to the stone age). It seems like you're trying to compensate or you're one of those people who can only feel good about themselves when they try to put other people down. Either way, what does it say about your supposedly all-mighty position when you havent the class or "quiet dignity" (a trait that seems to be very common amongst military personnel here) to conduct yourself as an example instead of a mistake.

[Praetorian 05]

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