View Full Version : Muslim website claims army base attack would have been justified.
Wally1967
08-06-2009, 02:31 PM
Attack would have been justified - website
Somali community brands police as terrorists
Site also calls PM "terrorist mastermind"
HATE-filled messages on a Muslim website claim an alleged plot to attack an Australian army base would have been justified.
And Somali community leaders have branded police as terrorists in the wake of this week's anti-terror swoop.
Abdurahman Osman, a leader of Melbourne's 15,000 strong Somali community, said police acted unreasonably, the Herald Sun reports (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25894152-661,00.html).
"What do you call waking people up at four in the morning with guns?" he said.
"It is the police themselves that are the terrorists.
"They had 400 police and 19 raids, but they did not find anything. No guns, no ammunition, nothing.
"Now we have our kids being called terrorists at school."
Mr Osman's outburst came as a prominent Muslim website featured a photograph of Australian soldiers in uniform with the caption: "Real Australian terrorists."
It also features a photograph of Prime Minister Kevin Rudd (http://search.news.com.au/search//0/?us=ndmnews&sid=421&as=news&ac=ninews2&q=Prime%20Minister%20Kevin%20Rudd) addressing Australian troops overseas with the caption: "Terrorist mastermind delivers sermon to impressionable followers."
"Mohammed" said on the website: "Why is it called terrorist attack when the Aussie troops have been raping, killing innocent Muslims for years?
"In this country we can't trust nobody. The Australian Government is corrupted."
One posting suggested Australian soldiers were an appropriate target for the alleged Melbourne terrorist cell.
"More than a million innocent civilians have died as an outcome of the war on terror that our soldiers are involved in," Aussie-Muslim Tazza said.
Mr Osman, until now a voice of moderation between Somalis and the wider community, said police should have consulted migrant leaders.
"The federal police could have come to us first and we could have helped them," Mr Osman said.
"We have met with them now, but we don't believe they have evidence of a terrorist plot and that is the feeling of the community."
Other Somalis accused Australian authorities of bigotry.
"As a Somali-born Australian I am outraged at these raids not only because my fellow Somalis are being targeted, but once again basic human rights are being violated," said Xamxam, a 21-year-old Sunshine woman who knows the family of accused terrorist Nayef El Sayed.
"If there was strong evidence against him, I would back up the police."
Abdullahi Ahmed, a salesman who has lived in Australian for almost 30 years, said he knew accused terrorist Saney Aweys.
He said Mr Aweys was a road worker and a dedicated family man.
"He was married only about a week ago. His family are here," Mr Ahmed said.
Mr Ahmed said Somalis in Australia would petition US President Barack Obama to stop the war in Afghanistan.
"There are innocent people being killed there. The Americans and the Australians are the ones making terror."
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http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25894152-661,00.html
Snoshi
08-06-2009, 02:42 PM
Really.. This is going to far... I am all for free speech and stuff.. But cmon..
Ayub -al -Somal
08-06-2009, 02:46 PM
Really.. This is going to far... I am all for free speech and stuff.. But cmon..
What do you understand "free speech " to be ?
Free speech= you can say whatever you want !
Wally1967
08-06-2009, 02:52 PM
What do you understand "free speech " to be ?
Free speech= you can say whatever you want !
Yeah free speech
"Why is it called terrorist attack when the Aussie troops have been raping, killing innocent Muslims for years?
but we know this is bullsh!t
Laworkerbee
08-06-2009, 02:53 PM
What do you understand "free speech " to be ?
Free speech= you can say whatever you want !
Within limits habibi.
You can't yell "FIRE!" in a movie theatre p-)
Ayub -al -Somal
08-06-2009, 02:56 PM
Of course it is bull**** , but the whole piece is based on some guy named Mohamed on a website . I mean c'mon !
And then it's like Mr Osman , the mohamed dude and that girl Zamzam are all somehow all the same .lol
Right ...right prof lawokerbee :)
Panchito12
08-06-2009, 02:57 PM
What do you understand "free speech " to be ?
Free speech= you can say whatever you want !
^^Not if it comes from a muslim site. I apply jihadist views to that and just censor them.
Ok, I'm joking. I censor them just for spite.
RxOnco
08-06-2009, 03:02 PM
Let me get this straight...
A Muslim hate-site is actually saying that a terrorist attack would have been justified?
I'm truly shocked...really, I am.
tyovan
08-06-2009, 03:03 PM
Fantastic comment left on the website:
Multi-culturalism has helped make Australia the great place it is today. From the early Chinese settlers in the gold rush time to the Italians, Greeks etc, to the 10 pound Poms and also to many beautiful people from South East Asia who have helped make our country great. Never has anyone from these walks of life wanted to harm the very nature of our society except for extreme followers of Islam - And never once has an Aussie turned around in Australia and wanted to commit terrorist acts towards any of the people who have settled here over the last 150 years. Blaming the Australian system for these plots is disgraceful, we must as a nation demand the harshest possible sentences available and why aren't any commentators standing up for us and our way of life. I am sick of hearing how racist we are, what nonsense, my god the irony is unbelievable, it is our very tolerance that has enabled these people to plan these attacks on our own soil.
If Somalis and/or Muslims are so unhappy with how horrible thing are for them Down Under, perhaps they should hop on the next flight back to Mogadishu, Beirut, etc..
Panchito12
08-06-2009, 03:08 PM
Fantastic comment left on the website:
If Somalis and/or Muslims are so unhappy with how horrible thing are for them Down Under, perhaps they should hop on the next flight back to Mogadishu, Beirut, etc..
Why would any Somali with a pulse want to return to that worthless 3rd World Toilet of a town?
seraosha
08-06-2009, 03:10 PM
If Somalis and/or Muslims are so unhappy with how horrible thing are for them Down Under, perhaps they should hop on the next flight back to Mogadishu, Beirut, etc..
Your racist intolerance has been noted. :roll:
Wally1967
08-06-2009, 03:25 PM
Fantastic comment left on the website:
Where's that I don't see any comments unless it's blocked?
wicked_hind
08-06-2009, 03:35 PM
I bet these are the same folks who say they came to Australia because of the violence in their home country, but the moment the authorities crack down on those who intend to harm innocent people, they label those that maintain law and order as terrorists.Talk about biting the hands that feed them! The Australians welcome the Somalis into their country, which will be more stable and safer than Somalia has ever been in recent times, and this is how they thank them?
tyovan
08-06-2009, 03:37 PM
Where's that I don't see any comments unless it's blocked?
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/comments/0,22023,25879565-661,00.html
IDF_TANKER
08-06-2009, 03:59 PM
I think Ayub is Macs - only Macs put spaces like that before every comma and period.
The Mighty Quinn
08-06-2009, 04:07 PM
If you dont like how things are there, then GTFO. No one is keeping you there. I repeat GTFO.
Laworkerbee
08-06-2009, 04:15 PM
I think Ayub is Macs - only Macs put spaces like that before every comma and period.
He isn't Macs, I promise.
Ayub -al -Somal
08-06-2009, 04:15 PM
I think Ayub is Macs - only Macs put spaces like that before every comma and period.
IDF tanker , you're one the most reasonable Israeli here my friend , come back to your senses.I am none of the people you guys refer to .
I am a law abiding and grateful person who resides in the US.
Had I been living in Australia or Israel , I would have been just the same .
the_13th_redneck
08-06-2009, 04:18 PM
Let me get this straight...
A Muslim hate-site is actually saying that a terrorist attack would have been justified?
I'm truly shocked...really, I am.
People or so quick to squish anything Nazi but seem to be hesitant when it comes to fundamentalist Islam? Why?
Spezz
08-06-2009, 04:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4FpTvp0tgs&feature=channel_page
RxOnco
08-06-2009, 04:46 PM
People or so quick to squish anything Nazi but seem to be hesitant when it comes to fundamentalist Islam? Why?
Feel free to jump on any Nazi website and spew some garbage. I'll squish that too...I promise.
tea drinker
08-06-2009, 05:34 PM
Your racist intolerance has been noted. :roll:
His statement is clearly not racist - maybe yours is? Do you hate Aussies?
Why are you giving tacit agreement to people who want to kill them then?
It's always the same - even look at Pat Condell's vid, someone racist is always ready to call someone else a racist.
These terrorists should be fvcked out - without a stop at a court - just gone.
Anyone who can get on with aussies, is willing to work and bring up kids without hate - I'm sure they will be more than welcome there, like everywhere else.
But if they are fundamentally unhappy, the best thing for them is back home or saudi, or somewhere they can fit in, and live a happy life, in whatever weird way they like.
And the immigration dept is responsible for this mess, not the Oz soldiers, police or the schools, or whatever. Some people are simply not suited for western society, as most of us aren't suited to theirs. Lets call a spade a spade and face facts, deport those who want to harm you or want to turn YOUR society into a stone age one.
IDF_TANKER
08-06-2009, 05:41 PM
IDF tanker , you're one the most reasonable Israeli here my friend , come back to your senses.I am none of the people you guys refer to .
I am a law abiding and grateful person who resides in the US.
Had I been living in Australia or Israel , I would have been just the same .
I was just kidding, habibi. Thanks for the compliment, though.
Australia's people have become unenlightened and Godless. I believe that strict Sharia law needs to be introduced NOW to save the people from eternal damnation! Sharia guides us in the TRUE wishes of Allah and guides us away from drugs, alcohol, bashings, murders, multiple intimate partners, etc, etc, etc that have destroyed this country. Praise Allah! Praise Muhammad!
Posted by: Ismail of Islamic Republic of Australia
Looks like some of the faithful didn't get the memo, eh?
Mordoror
08-06-2009, 07:50 PM
well i think it is time to re-open the Tasmanian prison, send all those people there and make a destroyer patrol the nearby waters, puting in cloated pork blood to attract sharks...
if the australians prefer the central desert is also a nice area for inmates
and please just spare some room, plenty of such morons are present around the world even in France
as we don't have "Bagne de Cayenne" anymore, we need somewhere to send them too
Atlantic Friend
08-07-2009, 10:32 AM
The issue here does not seem to be free speech. If it had simply been about saying offensive things, I'm sure Australian cops wouldn't have bothered - between burglars, thieves, crooks, murderers, rapists, embezzlers, the whole cohort of ordinary crime, they have more than enough work I suspect.
Whether for kicks or for real, these dinghats posted things alluding to attacks against an Army base and Australian soldiers. Now that, young Nayef, was a bad idea. And Mr Osman should focus on how lucky it is for Nayef and his friends that their threats were little more than punk bravado high on teenager testosterone.
3rdMillhouse
08-07-2009, 10:34 AM
Freedom of speech stops right there when you start advocating a crime.
Yoni-R
08-07-2009, 12:12 PM
Australia's people have become unenlightened and Godless. I believe that strict Sharia law needs to be introduced NOW to save the people from eternal damnation! Sharia guides us in the TRUE wishes of Allah and guides us away from drugs, alcohol, bashings, murders, multiple intimate partners, etc, etc, etc that have destroyed this country. Praise Allah! Praise Muhammad!
Posted by: Ismail of Islamic Republic of Australia
wow these people piss me off. they go to another country, probably one of the most peacefull in the world, and want to setup and islamic state. if you look around the world they are trying to do it everywhere they go. i say they all go to one big country, severe all communication and contact with them and check back in 20 years to see how many are left. we can just hope for the best...
NavyTimes
08-07-2009, 12:40 PM
I am a law abiding and grateful person who resides in the US.
Had I been living in Australia or Israel , I would have been just the same .
Sometimes it seems that the US is the only western country that is able to bring out the best in their somali immigrants, as I hear over and over about how the somali diaspora in the US are hard workers, hell, Aidids son was even a US marine.
Even one of your countrymen seems to be making the same observation:
http://wardheernews.com/Articles_09/April/18_oslo_abdisalaam.html
StinkyStreet
08-08-2009, 06:38 AM
Let me get this straight...
A Muslim hate-site is actually saying that a terrorist attack would have been justified?
I'm truly shocked...really, I am.
deport them all ASAP
haze99
08-08-2009, 09:35 AM
I hope this is a learning lesson to any other nation that is looking to allow Somali's in. It would be in your best interest to vet them before you allow them to reside in your homeland. Hopefully you will avoid this problem our Aussie buddies are dealing with.
wagon
08-08-2009, 10:01 AM
Freedom of speech stops right there when you start advocating a crime.
I agree.
An example ; I know a girl, who is a Moslem (a convert) who believes Australians should be living under Sharia law. This is coming from a girl who has lived with peace, prosperity and FREEDOM all her life. Why would she want something different for herself and her countrymen? So what if my wife wants to wear a skirt, skimpy top & heels in public. So what if I like to have a beer or two! So what if I have religious beliefs other than Islam. It's my fvcking country... lets keep it the way it is!
If you don't like the way we are, pi$$ off back to where you came from - and don't let the door get you on the way through.
I don't understand why otherwise sane people would want such BS applied to everybody just because THEIR VERSION of an old religious text says so.
His statement is clearly not racist - maybe yours is? Do you hate Aussies?
Why are you giving tacit agreement to people who want to kill them then?
It's always the same - even look at Pat Condell's vid, someone racist is always ready to call someone else a racist.
These terrorists should be fvcked out - without a stop at a court - just gone.
Anyone who can get on with aussies, is willing to work and bring up kids without hate - I'm sure they will be more than welcome there, like everywhere else.
But if they are fundamentally unhappy, the best thing for them is back home or saudi, or somewhere they can fit in, and live a happy life, in whatever weird way they like.
And the immigration dept is responsible for this mess, not the Oz soldiers, police or the schools, or whatever. Some people are simply not suited for western society, as most of us aren't suited to theirs. Lets call a spade a spade and face facts, deport those who want to harm you or want to turn YOUR society into a stone age one.
He was being sarcastic, god..
Wally1967
08-08-2009, 05:56 PM
Somali's already cause trouble as soon we open the door to them about 7 years ago.
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