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Afro-European
08-08-2009, 04:57 AM
A Medal Not Worth AIPAC's Mettle

As an American Jew, I must raise my voice in protest against a recipient of this year's Presidential Medal of Freedom, Billie Jean King, who, along with Mary Robinson, the first female president of Ireland, and Stephen Hawking, the physicist and decoder of time, is to be honored by Barack Obama, who, according to the New York Times, was recently referred to by a Jewish settler on the West Bank as "that Arab [you] call a president." (Actually, I call that "Arab" Mr. President.) It's not just that watchdog groups believe King to be hostile to Israel. Observers have seen her shun bagels at the breakfast buffet.
Wait.
What? That's not true?
Billie Jean King is totally cool?
The fuss is all about Mary Robinson, the former president of Ireland?
She did what?
Served as the U.N. High Commissioner of Human Rights, leading a body that has condemned Israel more times than it has any other nation, even the real bad ones like Chad and Sudan? Said, according to my father, many awful things about Jews -- especially shocking when you consider the fact that the Irish Republican Army was an early supporter of a Jewish state in Palestine. Presided over the U.N. Conference Against Racism in Durban, South Africa, which the United States boycotted and which descended into an anti-Semitic, anti-Israel hate-in?
Ah.
Got it.
As an American Jew, I must raise my voice in protest against a recipient of this year's Presidential Medal of Freedom, Mary Robinson, who, after leaving the United Nations, worked as a professor at Columbia University, which, as we all know, has become a gathering place for Israel haters.
The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), one of Washington's most influential lobbying organizations, has called on the Obama administration to "firmly, fully and publicly repudiate her views on Israel and her long public record of hostility and one-sided bias against the Jewish state."
(Presumably, Robinson's other views, the good ones on the environment, women's rights and tolerance in general, they can continue to praise.)
Speaking through spokesman Robert Gibbs, Obama said he will stand by Robinson, who is being honored "as a prominent crusader of women's rights in Ireland and throughout the world."
"There are statements that obviously she has made that the president doesn't agree with," Gibbs added, "and that's probably true for a number of the people that the president is recognizing for their lifetime contributions."
Obama, for example, might strongly dispute Hawkins's views on black holes and event horizons.
Clearly, though, repudiation is not enough. The cries are ringing: Robinson must go.
So what if AIPAC, in the course of this fight, expends more capital (monetary and political) than seems sensible? So what if AIPAC, a crucial organization that does important work, exhausts itself in a squabble that, to many, myself included, seems minor? So what if, a year from now, all that many people remember of the Presidential Medal of Freedom awards is how AIPAC got worked up about something that was not all that important? As offensive as some of Robinson's actions have been -- in particular, her work on the Human Rights Commission, which seems to have a perverse predilection for smacking Israel, and her leadership role at the Durban Conference, and the deplorable resolution that came out of that conference equating Zionism with racism -- I simply do not believe that this issue (the award has been given to a grab-bag of people, including Buzz Aldrin, Pearl Bailey and Andy Griffith, and does not have to be considered the final say on human value) is worth the struggle.
AIPAC, like all lobbying groups, is meant to focus on legislation that is favorable or detrimental to its cause, which in this case is the security of Israel and the real and ominous threats it faces. That is a mission from which, sadly, many young Jews, who have intermarried, lost their faith, stopped caring or simply fulfilled an American version of the old Zionist dream -- a life free of fear and worry about being a Jew -- feel increasingly disconnected. In such a circumstance -- and according to the trend lines, the future does not look good -- it seems important for Jews concerned about Israel to focus on the fights that really matter. Any sentence that includes the word Iran can be plugged in here.
But I suppose the point is precedent. If Mary Robinson receives this nation's highest civilian honor, next time Obama may give it posthumously to, say, T.S. Eliot, a genius of language, yes, but not the most friendly when it came to Jews.
What?
They gave it to him in 1964?
Never mind.

Rich Cohen, a contributing editor to Vanity Fair, is most recently the author of "Israel Is Real."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/07/AR2009080703045.html?hpid=opinionsbox1&sid=ST2009080703123

Connaught Ranger
08-08-2009, 06:07 AM
especially shocking when you consider the fact that the Irish Republican Army was an early supporter of a Jewish state in Palestine.The Irish Republican Army post 1922 have been and always will be a terrorist organisation. :roll:

The guy, Robert Gibbs, is a honking idiot!p-)

StinkyStreet
08-08-2009, 06:16 AM
I know lots of people and states have been racist to the Jews but they play this card way too often

I mean what country, group have they not accused of being "Anti-Semitic",
Obama is nothing like the boozos in the Middle East

time for them to go back and read the boy who cried wolf

Snoshi
08-08-2009, 06:22 AM
This looks like an editorial pieace and you name the topic "Jewish Lobby"?

Afro-European
08-08-2009, 06:26 AM
This looks like an editorial pieace and you name the topic "Jewish Lobby"?
Take it easy.


The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), one of Washington's most influential lobbying organizations, has called on the Obama administration to "firmly, fully and publicly repudiate her views on Israel and her long public record of hostility and one-sided bias against the Jewish state."

Snoshi
08-08-2009, 06:27 AM
Take it easy.

And where is Obama being accused of anti-semetism? All i see is criticism of Obama's policy on Israel..

I just see your topic name as a flamebait..

Afro-European
08-08-2009, 06:32 AM
And where is Obama being accused of anti-semetism? All i see is criticism of Obama's policy on Israel..
Go to Washington post to view the article if you want.It read:"Obama fenting Anti-semites".

I just see your topic name as a flamebait..
Of course it's a "flamebait" as it doesn't go your way.What's "flamming" about this article?

Snoshi
08-08-2009, 06:35 AM
Go to Washington post to view the article if you want.It read:"Obama fenting Anti-semites".

So why dint you use the original title?

Original title
"Is Obama Feting Anti-Semites?"

Your title
"Jewish lobby accuses Obama of fenting "Anti-semitism"

So you took an stupid editorial and changed the title to make it look like some "lobbies" are accusing Obama of anti-semetism.. GJ

Also can i ask you why you find this article insteresting?

Afro-European
08-08-2009, 06:51 AM
So why dint you use the original title?

[QUOTE]
Original title
"Is Obama Feting Anti-Semites?"
Your title
"Jewish lobby accuses Obama of fenting "Anti-semitism"

I already replied this question.

So you took an stupid editorial and changed the title to make it look like some "lobbies" are accusing Obama of anti-semetism.. GJ
What makes this article "stupid"? AIPAC shares same opinion as the writer of this article.What's "stupid" for them standing up for their cause?

Also can i ask you why you find this article insteresting?
Can i ask you why don't you find this article not interesting? What are the only one to get worked up over it?

Snoshi
08-08-2009, 07:00 AM
I already replied this question.

What makes this article "stupid"? AIPAC shares same opinion as the writer of this article.What's "stupid" for them standing up for their cause?

Can i ask you why don't you find this article not interesting? What are the only one to get worked up over it?

Again.. Where do you see AIPAC standing up to this guy? All i see is that he mentions AIPAC few times and quotes them once.. And that quote does not accuse anyone of anti-semetism..

All i see is that you want replies that look like StinkyStreet's onces... Since as far as i remember this is not the first time you have done this..

Vettec
08-08-2009, 08:42 AM
Again.. Where do you see AIPAC standing up to this guy? All i see is that he mentions AIPAC few times and quotes them once.. And that quote does not accuse anyone of anti-semetism..

All i see is that you want replies that look like StinkyStreet's onces... Since as far as i remember this is not the first time you have done this..

Its not like Israelis haven't accused him of being anti Semitic, here is an article from Haaretz. Everyone who disagrees with Israeli action is automatically coined as anti Semitic. Your milking that cow dry.




'We're launching a campaign against anti-Semitic Obama'

Some 130 protesters gathered in front of the American Consulate in Jerusalem Wednesday afternoon to rally against U.S. President Barack Obama, who had just launched his Middle East tour (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1090154.html), during which he is expected to reach out in friendship to the Muslim world.

As more than a dozen local and international journalists looked on, the protesters chanted "No, You Can't" and waved posters saying "20 new 'settlements' by 2010 - Yes We Can!"

Far right activist Itamar Ben-Gvir, who attended the protest, told Channel 10 that "it appears that we've arrived at a red line, which has already been crossed by the most anti-Semitic American president."
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"We are launching a campaign against Barack Hussein Obama. He is bad for the people of Israel and for the state of Israel and his policies could bring about disaster. We expect our prime minister to say 'no' to anyone who tries to harm us," Ben-Gvir added.

National Union MKs Aryeh Eldad and Michael Ben Ari addressed the crowd, largely made up of native-English speaking Israelis.

"I'm here to tell Obama that Eretz Yisrael belongs to the Jewish people," said Scottish-born Edith Ognall, who drove to the capital from her hometown of Netanya to attend the event. "What right does anybody have to tell us to stop building in the land that was given to us by God? I'm not going to stand by and let Obama, or anybody else, tell me where I can live and where I can't live."

Nadia Matar, the Belgian-born co-chair of Women in Green, which organized the event, made a point of repeatedly mentioning Obama' middle name, Hussein, because "we have to remind ourselves that he received an Islamic education in Indonesia."

"We are connected to our land like a mother is connected to her children," the well-known activist told reporters. "And I want to warn you: Don't mess with a Jewish mother who feels her children or her homeland are in danger. Every part and parcel and hilltop and stone in the Land of Israel is like one of our children. And we'e going to protect it like lionesses."


Source: http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1090166.html

OrangeWolf
08-08-2009, 09:00 AM
Its not like Israelis haven't accused him of being anti Semitic, here is an article from Haaretz. Everyone who disagrees with Israeli action is automatically coined as anti Semitic. Your milking that cow dry.



Source: http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1090166.html

Criticizing Israel is good, like it is good to criticize the faults of any country in the world, as long as this criticism is just and not one-sided.

There's a huge and enormous gap between criticism which might actually help the sad conflict and singling out Israel as some rogue undemocratic state (which by any means it is not, at least not compared to most of the world) which is always on the wrong side and committing genocide, which is another lie.

It is annoying to see the Israeli-Arab conflict being hyped out of proportion and being focused on by so many governments and international bodies while other conflicts in the world receive much less attention, even though most ongoing armed conflicts in the world (Sri Lanka, Darfur, various African nations) caused much and much more casualties on both sides, often perpetrated by countries not even remotely democratic and human rights violations which make incidents in the Israeli-Arab conflict reduce to even smaller incidents (were it not that they are often in the larger picture of global fundamentalism). Just look at how much funding the UNRWA gets compared to other refugee situations. Compared to Israel which had absorbed hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees the UNRWA over the decades has simply been pathetic, the stubbornness of Arab nations (although I have respect for Lebanon's decision on this) to not absorb their Arab brothers and sisters is hypocrite compared to what Israel had to do with theirs. And the funding the Arab states give to the UNRWA is even more laughable, they spend more on an advert or propaganda campaign to blame Israel for everything, especially the Arab refugees, than they spend time or money to actually help these people.

Focusing on Israel as the bad guy, especially by Europeans, is simply out of proportion. And especially funny when done by the radical fringe on both the left and right who historically and as of now have always supported regimes which make Israel look like paradise and Israel's human rights record something to look up to.

Atlantic Friend
08-08-2009, 09:03 AM
Is this article for real?