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memphiz
07-05-2004, 06:49 PM
Two teenage Ontario brothers who were kept caged over a 13-year period say they can't believe that their adoptive parents have been sentenced to only nine months in jail.

"I don't think its right. They should get more time... at least six to eight years," one of the boys -- -- who can't be named -- told reporters after the sentence was handed down Monday.

"I'm not happy with the end result, but I hope for the best for them."

The other brother added that he's still struggling with his experience, "but I got to accept what they did and forgive what they did. And let's just hope they don't do that stuff to other kids."

"I'm much better off than what I was before," he added. "And I'm feeling 100 per cent better. No, 200 per cent better."

The couple from the hamlet of Blackstock, northeast of Toronto, kept the two teenaged boys locked in wire-mesh enclosed baby cribs for hours on end for years. Investigators said the boys were also forced to wear diapers, subjected to physical punishment, and were severely malnourished.

Through it all, the boys continued to go to school and even visited neighbours, but were told under threat of more abuse never to talk of what they endured at home.

Announcing the sentence in an Oshawa court on Monday, Ontario Court Judge Donald Halikowski called the treatment of the boys cruel, demeaning and damaging. But he said there was no evidence the parents -- who were the boys' biological aunt and uncle -- were sadists.

"Both accused share equal responsibility as parents," Halikowski said. "Both failed."

The couple was sentenced to nine months for two counts each of forcible confinement, failure to provide the necessities of life and assault with a weapon. They pled guilty last January and have been out on bail since.

Halikowski said the parents' behaviour was "underscored by good intentions," but they were out of their depth when it came to handling boys.

The defence said the boys suffered from fetal alcohol syndrome and attention deficit disorder -- diagnoses disputed by the Crown.

"There is no doubt they were difficult to raise,'' said Halikowski, although he added their treatment of the boys was "beyond comprehension.''

The defence called the sentence fair and balanced and suggested the abuse was not as frequent as child-welfare officials alleged.

"These children were tethered, these children were abused periodically, but not systematically on a daily basis," said lawyer Alex Sosna.

The Crown is considering appealing the sentence.

Durham Regional Police received a complaint about the boys' treatment in June 2001. After raiding the house, police described the case as one of the worst incidents of child abuse and neglect they'd ever investigated.

Despite their inhumane treatment, at the time of the couple's arrest Durham Regional Police Sgt. Paul Malik told CTV that the boys were actually "quite normal in every way."

Interviews with residents of the southern Ontario farming community described the children as loners who often fought, but did not show signs of abuse.

The children, who are now aged 17 and 18, have been transferred to foster care and are attending high school.

This is why the Canadian justice system sucks donkey balls

Vance
07-05-2004, 07:00 PM
Wait...they were allowed to go to school and get out, but they never tried to contact police? WTF? :cantbeli:

Ratamacue
07-05-2004, 07:02 PM
What the f*ck?

Tane Angle
07-05-2004, 08:16 PM
That's what often happens; they believe that they will be further beaten if they tell. Judging from the information provided by the article here, they are exhibiting psychological conditions not unlike those hostages and kidnapping victims often show.

No offense to the Canadian legal system, because ours isn't perfect either, but please tell me that such a ruling is not the norm. :|

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

Kilgor
07-05-2004, 08:35 PM
:(

this is not just limited to countries like canada..

In the western would there is alot of absolutely shocking cases of under sentancing for terrible crimes.

****ing liberal judges :-*$
they need to get in touch with reality

Maverick77
07-05-2004, 08:39 PM
You have to take the law into your own hands in this ****in country


anyone who lived here for more than a year should know that

ChuckThunder
07-05-2004, 08:42 PM
Well... that is f*cking sick!!!

At least they didn't turn out like Nell (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110638/).

memphiz
07-05-2004, 08:51 PM
That's what often happens; they believe that they will be further beaten if they tell. Judging from the information provided by the article here, they are exhibiting psychological conditions not unlike those hostages and kidnapping victims often show.

No offense to the Canadian legal system, because ours isn't perfect either, but please tell me that such a ruling is not the norm. :|

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...
Yeah the justice system is really f**ked up here, a few years ago I lost a few close family friends in a car accident. They were on a camping trip and they were on their way home when they were killed by a drunk driver, 5 were killed. The drunk driver was sentanced to 5 years in jail, 4 months later he was out on probation was caught drinking and driving again then he was sentenced to 7 years in jail....2 months later he got out on probation and that was that. Once again I say Canadas justice system is crap.

Hullebullen
07-05-2004, 09:03 PM
Not really related but I read in the papers the other day that this guy, who murdered three people here where I live about three years ago, is basically out.

I remember this quite well because I was on my way to the university and got to the scene a short while after it had happened. He had attacked this guy with an axe and the body was still lying in the street when I got there. Afterwards he got caught and admitted commiting two other murders. One were the daughter of the guy he had attacked and another female, a former colleague of his.

Now this guy gets sentenced to psychiatric care because in Sweden, if you are considered sick enough, you can't be sentenced to jail. The thing is, that as soon your doctors think you're "cured", you're out!

I don't know, perhaps he really is cured but I really doubt if any doctor can say: "This person will not murder anyone ever again". How the hell can they know that!

So after roughly two years, this guy is out. He is studying at the university (not here though) and basically free to do what he want as long as he continues to show up for his treatment... :bash:

Fintin
07-05-2004, 09:31 PM
so let me get this stright....they caged the kids for 13 years and get nine months in a cage...yeah....im not good at math....but that doesnt seem right

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
07-05-2004, 09:35 PM
What justice system? Everything is a slap on the wrist. Go shoot someone, plea bargin manslaughter, sentenced for 8 years, get out in 6 months.

Someone in BC can have a grow show with over 3,000 pot plants and get arrested at 6am and be out before the "big breakfast" deal at A&W ends by 12:00 and have time to spare.

Hullebullen
07-05-2004, 09:38 PM
Maybe a certain Hussein should consider hiring those lawyers for his defense..."Your Honor, my client wasn't gassing Kurds every day."..."Oh, when you put it that way...well, 9 nine months imprisonement. That will teach him."

Saint
07-05-2004, 10:01 PM
I am not a big fan of the Canadian Justice system either (it is too lenient for my personal beliefs). However, jail doesn't cure people. Infact, jail is just a breeding ground for more criminal behaviour. So, when someone "gets out" they have all kinds of new tricks they have learned in prison.

usa320
07-05-2004, 10:26 PM
What the ****?

Vance
07-05-2004, 11:02 PM
What the f***?
Shutup homo dumbass.