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MetalBoy
07-05-2004, 08:37 PM
BAGHDAD (AFP) - An Islamic group holding a US marine hostage was reported as saying it had released the man unharmed after he announced his desertion from the military, while US planes bombed a suspected rebel safehouse in Fallujah, killing at least 12.

The statement, attributed to the Islamic Retaliation Movement - Armed Resistance Wing and read on Al-Jazeera television, came as the interim government postponed for a second time announcement of a set of controversial security measures that were expected to include an amnesty for some resistance fighters.


"It'll be before the end of the week," said national security advisor Muwaffaq al-Rubaie.


The measures, intended to crush a 14-month insurgency, will include curfews, restrictions on movement and preemptive arrests.


The crackdown was expected to be coupled with an amnesty for insurgents not considered hardcore supporters of the resistance movement.


But rumors swirling around US marine Corporal Wassef Ali Hassoun, who has been missing from his unit since June 21 and was reported executed only two days ago, took an unexpected twist Monday when his presumed captors said the Lebanese-born marine had been set free and taken to a safehouse because he had promised to take off his uniform.


"Hassoun promised not to go back to the US army," the statement added.


The US military said they had no independent confirmation of Hassoun's release and was still listing him as captured.


Hassoun's family, which hails from the northern Lebanese city of Tripoli, had issued a passionate appeal through Al-Jazeera and other media for the release of the 24-year-old man.


Meanwhile, in Fallujah, at least 12 people were killed after US warplanes dropped four 500-pound (227-kilogram) bombs and two 1,000-pound (454-kilogram) bombs on a suspected hideout of Islamic militant Abu Mussab Zarqawi.


"After consultations between Iraqi government officials and multinational forces-Iraq (news - web sites), Iraqi security forces provided clear and compelling intelligence to conduct a precision strike this evening on a known Zarqawi safe house in southeastern Fallujah," Interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi said in a statement.


Volunteer Amer Hassan said he saw "eight bodies pulled out" from under the debris.


The attack is the fifth such raid over the past two weeks in Fallujah, where previous air strikes targeted other suspected safe houses used by al-Qaeda-linked Zarqawi.


In rumbling violence, three Iraqis were killed and 11 wounded in four separate attacks across the country against police and US soldiers.


Two relatives of a district head in the troubled city of Baquba were killed by unknown attackers late Sunday, a spokesman for the governorate said.


An Iraqi civilian was also killed and three wounded when their house was hit during a rocket attack on a police station in the southern city of Basra, police said.


Another Iraqi civilian was wounded when a roadside bomb targeting a US convoy exploded near Samawa on Monday, an Iraqi national guard spokesman said.





Five Iraqi civilians were wounded in an early morning roadside bombing in the main northern city of Mosul, the US military said.

The general unrest and a specific attack Sunday on a pipeline near the central city of Karbala pushed oil prices higher on world markets Monday.

The targeted oil duct served Iraq's domestic market, meaning the breach had no impact on the country's all-important exports.

But on Saturday, a rupture to a main southern oil pipeline caused a fresh fall in Iraqi oil exports.

It was not immediately clear if the pipeline had been sabotaged or had sprung a leak. The rupture was at the site of one of two sabotage attacks last month that effectively halted Iraqi exports for almost a week.

Allawi also announced that Iraq would re-establish diplomatic relations with France, broken off in 1991 after the Gulf War (news - web sites), "very soon".

The prime minister also called on Syria and Iran to support the multi-national forces in Iraq, one day after the two neighbourings countries called for foreign troops to withdraw the country.

"I think the brother presidents in Syria and Iran should revise (their position) in the interests of Iraq. Indeed, they should support the presence of the multi-national forces," Allawi told Dubai-based Al-Arabiya television.

On Sunday, Iranian President Mohammad Khatami (news - web sites) and Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, stood side by side to call for the rapid departure of foreign troops from Iraq.

"The solution is the quick end to the occupation, the installation of a government comprising all elements of the Iraqi people and the cooperation of the international community to bring stability and reconstruction," Khatami said.

"We have always been in agreement with Iran on the need for Iraq's territorial integrity, a representative government and the departure of the occupying forces," said Assad, on a two-day visit to the Islamic republic.

But Allawi disagreed with this assessment.

"In Iraq, there are no occupation forces. There are multi-nationals at the request of Iraq and the Iraqi government," he said.

Let's hope this is true. I don't give a hoot if he told the terrorists that he would desert. As long as he is free I'm happy.

moughoun
07-05-2004, 09:12 PM
BAGHDAD (AFP) - An Islamic group holding a US marine hostage was reported as saying it had released the man unharmed after he announced his desertion from the military, while US planes bombed a suspected rebel safehouse in Fallujah, killing at least 12.

The statement, attributed to the Islamic Retaliation Movement - Armed Resistance Wing and read on Al-Jazeera television, came as the interim government postponed for a second time announcement of a set of controversial security measures that were expected to include an amnesty for some resistance fighters.


"It'll be before the end of the week," said national security advisor Muwaffaq al-Rubaie.


The measures, intended to crush a 14-month insurgency, will include curfews, restrictions on movement and preemptive arrests.


The crackdown was expected to be coupled with an amnesty for insurgents not considered hardcore supporters of the resistance movement.


But rumors swirling around US marine Corporal Wassef Ali Hassoun, who has been missing from his unit since June 21 and was reported executed only two days ago, took an unexpected twist Monday when his presumed captors said the Lebanese-born marine had been set free and taken to a safehouse because he had promised to take off his uniform.


"Hassoun promised not to go back to the US army," the statement added.


The US military said they had no independent confirmation of Hassoun's release and was still listing him as captured.


Hassoun's family, which hails from the northern Lebanese city of Tripoli, had issued a passionate appeal through Al-Jazeera and other media for the release of the 24-year-old man.


Meanwhile, in Fallujah, at least 12 people were killed after US warplanes dropped four 500-pound (227-kilogram) bombs and two 1,000-pound (454-kilogram) bombs on a suspected hideout of Islamic militant Abu Mussab Zarqawi.


"After consultations between Iraqi government officials and multinational forces-Iraq (news - web sites), Iraqi security forces provided clear and compelling intelligence to conduct a precision strike this evening on a known Zarqawi safe house in southeastern Fallujah," Interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi said in a statement.


Volunteer Amer Hassan said he saw "eight bodies pulled out" from under the debris.


The attack is the fifth such raid over the past two weeks in Fallujah, where previous air strikes targeted other suspected safe houses used by al-Qaeda-linked Zarqawi.


In rumbling violence, three Iraqis were killed and 11 wounded in four separate attacks across the country against police and US soldiers.


Two relatives of a district head in the troubled city of Baquba were killed by unknown attackers late Sunday, a spokesman for the governorate said.


An Iraqi civilian was also killed and three wounded when their house was hit during a rocket attack on a police station in the southern city of Basra, police said.


Another Iraqi civilian was wounded when a roadside bomb targeting a US convoy exploded near Samawa on Monday, an Iraqi national guard spokesman said.





Five Iraqi civilians were wounded in an early morning roadside bombing in the main northern city of Mosul, the US military said.

The general unrest and a specific attack Sunday on a pipeline near the central city of Karbala pushed oil prices higher on world markets Monday.

The targeted oil duct served Iraq's domestic market, meaning the breach had no impact on the country's all-important exports.

But on Saturday, a rupture to a main southern oil pipeline caused a fresh fall in Iraqi oil exports.

It was not immediately clear if the pipeline had been sabotaged or had sprung a leak. The rupture was at the site of one of two sabotage attacks last month that effectively halted Iraqi exports for almost a week.

Allawi also announced that Iraq would re-establish diplomatic relations with France, broken off in 1991 after the Gulf War (news - web sites), "very soon".

The prime minister also called on Syria and Iran to support the multi-national forces in Iraq, one day after the two neighbourings countries called for foreign troops to withdraw the country.

"I think the brother presidents in Syria and Iran should revise (their position) in the interests of Iraq. Indeed, they should support the presence of the multi-national forces," Allawi told Dubai-based Al-Arabiya television.

On Sunday, Iranian President Mohammad Khatami (news - web sites) and Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, stood side by side to call for the rapid departure of foreign troops from Iraq.

"The solution is the quick end to the occupation, the installation of a government comprising all elements of the Iraqi people and the cooperation of the international community to bring stability and reconstruction," Khatami said.

"We have always been in agreement with Iran on the need for Iraq's territorial integrity, a representative government and the departure of the occupying forces," said Assad, on a two-day visit to the Islamic republic.

But Allawi disagreed with this assessment.

"In Iraq, there are no occupation forces. There are multi-nationals at the request of Iraq and the Iraqi government," he said.

Let's hope this is true. I don't give a hoot if he told the terrorists that he would desert. As long as he is free I'm happy.

That maybe so, but if true, desertion in most military's in wartime is an executionable offence so he might just want to keep on running to the Lebanon

Seoulstriker
07-05-2004, 09:24 PM
If he truly did desert the military (instead of just saying so and then getting set free), then he deserves whatever punishment given to him.

He was lebanese in origin. How recent was that?

American Patriot
07-05-2004, 09:27 PM
Why would any Coalition personnel go AWOL from their base in Iraq? It doesn't get any more weird than this.

moughoun
07-05-2004, 09:31 PM
Why would any Coalition personnel go AWOL from their base in Iraq? It doesn't get any more weird than this.

That' s a goodpoint, wtf was he doing wondering around a hostile area?

Seoulstriker
07-05-2004, 09:40 PM
****! What if this is a ploy by terrorists and a lebanese american soldier (???) to show that if you desert the military, you will not be harmed. You simply leave Iraq and you won't get hurt. Possible?

moughoun
07-05-2004, 09:51 PM
****! What if this is a ploy by terrorists and a lebanese american soldier (???) to show that if you desert the military, you will not be harmed. You simply leave Iraq and you won't get hurt. Possible?

I think he had already deserted when he ran into those boy's, they put a cramp in whatever plan he had to get out of there

szr
07-05-2004, 10:16 PM
I wrote this in one of the other threads, related to this topic..

When I first heard the NYT claims of Cpl. Hassoun wanting to leave the country and head to Lebanon and that he had allegedly befriended some Iraqis, knowing that he spoke arabic I began to wonder if there was more to this situation than met the eye. First of all, he was captured by a group called "Islamic Response" a group we've never heard of before... I began to wonder if the hostange video that was released to Al-Jazeera was infact a prop by the people with Hassoun, to divert attention, while they secretly smuggled him out of the country. I'm no detective and this 'theory' may end up holding about as much water as the Kennedy assassination conspiracies. Only time will tell... If he winds up, alive, outside of Iraq then I'll have more confidence in my theory.

Mark Sman
07-05-2004, 10:18 PM
There may be more to the story of this Marine corporal.

I would say, when you are a prisoner, that saying and doing a lot of crazy stuff is OK when trying to get free. I mean, whatever it takes to escape, with some limits of course. No selling out other POWs for instance.

As far as desertion, hopefully, let this guy return to his unit before we jump to any conclusion. There are so many different ways this could turn out. So many things we may not know.

szr
07-05-2004, 10:27 PM
I agree with the above. When you're a POW err Hostage, nothing is sacred when trying to get free, and you should do just about anything to get free, except forsaking fellow POWs. Being of Lebanese decent, a Muslim, and speaker of Arabic are all tools he has at his disposal, to win the sypathy of his captors and secure his release. Theres no reason that he shouldn't play to their sense of brotherhood among muslims. We should hold off on calling him a deserter, until we get some definitive outcome.

Fargin
07-05-2004, 11:08 PM
Rule of thumb: Say whatever keeps your head attached to your neck.

ShadowNeo
07-06-2004, 08:03 AM
There were reports on the news that he had allegedly fallen in love with a local Iraqi woman also..

Deuterium
07-06-2004, 09:46 AM
"Hassoun promised not to go back to the US army," the statement added.


Pretty easy to do considering he is a MARINE!!

Liquid
07-06-2004, 10:00 AM
Rule of thumb: Say whatever keeps your head attached to your neck.

Exactly,no one has the right to blame him.No one would have done difrently with a familly waiting for you at home

He will probably keep the promise too,Muslims take pledges to Allah extremly seriously.

Deuterium
07-06-2004, 10:10 AM
Rule of thumb: Say whatever keeps your head attached to your neck.

Exactly,no one has the right to blame him.No one would have done difrently with a familly waiting for you at home

He will probably keep the promise too,Muslims take pledges to Allah extremly seriously.

Well I for one blame him if it is true that he deserted!!

Liquid
07-06-2004, 10:21 AM
Rule of thumb: Say whatever keeps your head attached to your neck.

Exactly,no one has the right to blame him.No one would have done difrently with a familly waiting for you at home

He will probably keep the promise too,Muslims take pledges to Allah extremly seriously.

Well I for one blame him if it is true that he deserted!!

Another story says he saw his commander thorn to little pieces by a mortar and freaked out.
Another one says he was seduced by an Arab lady who given him to the guerilla fighters.

The important thing is that he is alive right now.

Scrim
07-06-2004, 10:28 AM
Who knows what the hells going on with this story.
Nothing official, but just saw on Fox that some of his family members claim to have just talked to him, and he is fine and free.