Poll: over 40% of Canadian teens think America is "evil

[BlackRain]

Poll: over 40% of Canadian teens think America is "evil"
by Arthur Weinreb

June 30, 2004

Can West News Services, owners of several Canadian newspapers including the National Post as well as the Global Television Network commissioned a series of polls to determine how young people feel about the issues that were facing the country’s voters. Dubbed "Youth Vote 2004", the polls, sponsored by the Dominion Institute and Navigator Ltd. were taken with a view to getting more young people involved in the political process.

In one telephone poll of teens between the ages of 14 and 18, over 40 per cent of the respondents described the United States as being "evil". That number rose to 64 per cent for French Canadian youth.

This being Canada, the amount of anti-Americanism that was found is not surprising. What is significant is the high number of teens who used the word "evil" to describe our southern neighbour. As Misty Harris pointed out in her column in the Saskatoon Star Phoenix, evil is usually associated with serial killers and "kids who tear the legs off baby spiders." These teens appear to equate George W. Bush and Americans with Osama bin Laden and Hitler, although it is unknown if the teens polled would describe the latter two as being evil. Whether someone who orders planes to be flown into heavily populated buildings would fit that description would make a good subject for a future poll.

The Liberal government came into power in 1993 gushing anti-Americanism. Former Prime Minister Jean Chrétien’s communications director, Francoise Ducros, made headlines when she referred to President Bush as a moron. Liberal MP Carolyn Parrish was picked up on a boom microphone saying, "Damn Americans — I hate those bastards". Not only did Parrish not apologize for her remarks, but she later appeared on a television show hosted by alleged comedian Mike Bullard and laughed about the incident. Parrish played to the anti-Americanism of the youthful studio audience by saying that she couldn’t guarantee that she wouldn’t do it again.

Not only did then Prime Minister Jean Chrétien not take any action against his staff or caucus members, he himself engaged in America-bashing. The depth of his anti-Americanism surfaced shortly after the 9/11 attacks when he blamed the arrogance and greed of the West (read the United States) for those attacks.

When Paul Martin assumed office last December, the childish cheap shots ended but, if anything, anti-Americanism became stronger.

Anti-Americanism played a prominent role in the election strategy of the Liberals. Paul Martin portrayed himself as the saviour of Canadian medicare while saying that if Stephen Harper and the Conservative Party of Canada came to power they would introduce "American-style" health care. Martin was happy to take credit for cutting taxes and eliminating the deficit during the 1990s when he was Minister of Finance, but he referred to tax cuts included in the Conservative Party platform as being "American-style tax cuts". Canadians who favour lower taxes or the private delivery of health care services or smaller governments or anything similar to what is found in the United States were called "un-Canadian" by Paul Martin.

It is therefore not surprising that a high percentage of Canadian youth think that the United States is evil. Nor is it surprising that this feeling is more ****ounced in Quebec where Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe said that he would rather live under the United Nations than the Stars and Stripes. The left wing Canadian political parties, aided by their supporters in the elite media don’t seem to be able to say anything positive about Canada without denigrating the United States in the process.

The poll results reflect that anti-Americanism will be solidly entrenched in future generations of Canadians. As well as listening to the propaganda espoused by their political leaders and the media, these kids have no experience with what constitutes real evil. They live in a country that much like pre-9/11 America, thinks that terrorist attacks are something that happens in other countries. And as the World War II veterans slowly die off, they have no conviction of the evil that the allies risked their lives to defeat.

With anti-Americanism playing such a prominent role in this past election campaign, it is no wonder that the United States was viewed in such a negative light.

Arthur Weinreb, a lawyer and author, is Associate Editor of Toronto Free Press and Canadafreepress.com

Source: http://www.torontofreepress.com/2004/weinreb063004.htm

[UoUo]

Canada is a close ally of USA right?

[cut]

rofl rofl

what's wrong with being evil? :P

[Macs.]

Yeah, evil is good.

We are evil for more then 70 years now.

[Colt45]

Yea... and what? Of course they think we are evil, they dont realise that a country could sneak a bomb into their school, kill all of them with out even batting an eye. They dont realise that they would kill them their parents, family, friends... They are just the average stupid ass un-informed dumbass teenager...

[ShotOver]

Quick, somone grab me my crucifix, there is an American comming my way!

[Fargin]

Teenagers are children gone insane.

[Mark Sman]

Damn it feels good to be bad.

If America was really evil we would make Canadians drink American beer, then pour Prestone into their ice just before hockey season.

Canada would capitulate in hours.

[Obergefreiter]

So we are going to run the world based on what teens think?

God help us all.

[Deuterium]

and 40% of American teenagers probably can't even tell you where Canada is.... hmmmm...

[Old300]

Should we be surprised?

I went to college near the Canadian border and I saw and heard a lot of Canadian media over those 4 years. I was astonished at how negatively the US is portrayed in newscasts, entertainment, and some commercials.

I understand that many Canadians resent our power and wealth; and I'm sure that we've done some bad things to them over the years.

But young Canadians are fed a steady diet of hate-the-USA and, frankly, I'm surprised it was only 40% who think we're "evil".

On second thought, maybe that's explained by all the US media that Canadians consume every day (although that, too, could be considered a reason to think America is evil).

[Deuterium]

or 40% of Canadian teenagers think their parents are too strict....
or 40% of Canadian teenagers think their allowance is too small....
or 40% of Canadian teenagers think Dr Evil should let his hair grow out...


How about a meaningful poll.

[HappyCat]

it still reflects the reason of why im moving out of Canada as soon as possible, this country is too anti-American for me. Its realy stupid when our government says everyone is tolerated and we are a multi cultural country, but that saying never applies to being american in this country.
I had 3 teachers in school this year who i believe described the states as evil, radical or tried to compare them to the nazis. I have had enough with this country :(

[Howitz]

telephone poll?!
Hah, that's a reliable source.... :roll:
Seriously, who here dosen't screw with solicitors and people giving telephone surveys?

[Tengu]

silly teens

[Colt45]

i just say, canux be gone from these boardz please!!!

[Brozozo]

Looks like another pit in the curious relationship between America Senior and America Junior.
Well, being evil worked for the US while being "righteous" led Canada to become a second-tier power. If evil can get you to be the world's most powerful ountry, then go for it!

[Pille1234]

John Wayne was pierced by several arrows without complaining and you cry like a little girl just because the world hates you? Come on, get over it and take it like a real man! :D

[Kitsune]

Probably Canada should join the European Union. In that case Euro-bashing and Canada-bashing could be handled in just a single thread.

Would be much more ergonomic that way. ;)

[Freibier]

Question:
What do you Amis think is the reason that USA is so unpopular with canadian teens?
I mean there must be a reason.

[VorpalDoom]

prolly the same general feel the rest of the world has... not just eu, the REST of the world... we apparently dont give enough foreign aid, we stick our nose into things it shouldn't be (wait, what...?) things like that...

'sides canada knows the us will just sit here and shakes its head at them and chuckle no matter what they say.... so they say it, i say good for them kuz the only reason they're saying anything is because we're here. :P theres always gotta be a problem, i'd rather have 60% hate us, rather then have 100% not be able to. :roll:

[szr]

I blame the Queen!

:P

[Freibier]

I blame the Queen!

:P
hehe, that's a good one :lol:

[ZeroPositive]

what a dumb poll.... I am not surprised about the figures about the French kids... never have I met a more unfriendly people....

The Canadian Currency is called the Looney how do they take an economic crisis seriously?

[rawkitheart]

John Wayne was pierced by several arrows without complaining and you cry like a little girl just because the world hates you? Come on, get over it and take it like a real man! :D

hahahaha.

iono, stupid poll if you ask me. and its not just the canadians either, why not do a world poll of teenagers on wether the US is evil and you'll get the same results. even here in america. shiet, most of my peers are just stupid brainwashed kiddy-liberals.

--actually you can probably extend the kiddy-liberal title to most people urbanites in the united states. its trendy.

[Air_Mobile]

I think the US is evil because they won't let me enlist in their Marine Corps! :P

[anonymous individual]

If America was really evil we would make Canadians drink American beer.

FYI:

Americans beer is weaker than Canadian beer in alcoholic content, because of the difference in measuring quantity.

[Vance]

If America was really evil we would make Canadians drink American beer.

FYI:

Americans beer is weaker than Canadian beer in alcoholic content, because of the difference in measuring quantity.
I think he meant in terms of taste.

[McLane]

Pics tells more than Words:

http://h-blog.org/media/us_world_domination_tour_shirt.jpg

rofl


Let me say that americans are not as evil as many think. But their government is *censored* And if you reduce your trash, buy "less-needing-fuel-cars", stop polluting the air, the water and the land - than you are a very nice country with very nice people to me ;)

[szr]

Whoa AWESOME SHIRT! Where can I get one?! :)

I wonder if the Simpsons "Try And Stop Us" shirt is also available. God bless America in all her glory! :D

[Old300]

Pics tells more than Words:

http://h-blog.org/media/us_world_domination_tour_shirt.jpg

rofl


Let me say that americans are not as evil as many think. But their government is *censored* And if you reduce your trash, buy "less-needing-fuel-cars", stop polluting the air, the water and the land - than you are a very nice country with very nice people to me ;)

Not that I care, but you may be interested to know that we pollute less as a proportion of GDP than does the EU. In other words, even though we are the world's largest polluter, we're producing things that the rest of the world buys more cleanly than you do. In other words, shut the hell up.

[McLane]

The shirt is very popular in germany.... i don't know if you get it in other countries ;) I love this shirt and the poster *lol* But sadly, it is a little bit true -_-''

[szr]

The shirt is very popular in germany.... i don't know if you get it in other countries ;) I love this shirt and the poster *lol* But sadly, it is a little bit true -_-''

Hey you know Germany would be doing the same kinds of things if it could. Give us a break. It's tough being #1. Don't knock it until you've tried it. :P

[Old300]

The shirt is very popular in germany.... i don't know if you get it in other countries ;) I love this shirt and the poster *lol* But sadly, it is a little bit true -_-''

It is indeed a little bit true. It's true in the sense that consumers all over the world have chosen to buy our products and view our media. It's also true in the sense that we have thousands of people and lots of materiel garrissoned in places that were incapable of policing themselves at one time or another. We didn't just wake up one day and decide to undertake a benign domination of the planet. Nor, pace the British, did we arrive at this situation in a fit of absence of mind.

One way or another, we dominate the world at the request of those we dominate. Before you scoff at that, think about it. Then thank us.

[Fioraon]

I'd like a 'German EU Domination' shirt.

[McLane]

1. I mean the shirt is true - because the USA bombs this countries :(
2. Yes, i like your media and your games, and your cars are best looking all over the world! But:

Why the f*cking hell it is not possible that you have the same ecological laws as we have in EU or Germany (germany have one of the most strict ecological law system in the world)? You are so f*cking mighty and you polute the world with you fuel-eatin' cars and so on? That's not good. You have to be the archetype, because you are so mighty and 'good'. But instead you do bad things - and that hurts. I love america (the landscape is one of the world finest! - and the americans are very nice people) but do it better than now!

[n.ignomo]

War's human i must say, not only america's work. People likes victories, the only change is that not much years ago, they didn't see the deads and more important the wounded. They still don't today because TVs are too....how to say, purist.

[Old300]

1. I mean the shirt is true - because the USA bombs this countries :(
2. Yes, i like your media and your games, and your cars are best looking all over the world! But:

Why the f*cking hell it is not possible that you have the same ecological laws as we have in EU or Germany (germany have one of the most strict ecological law system in the world)? You are so f*cking mighty and you polute the world with you fuel-eatin' cars and so on? That's not good. You have to be the archetype, because you are so mighty and 'good'. But instead you do bad things - and that hurts. I love america (the landscape is one of the world finest! - and the americans are very nice people) but do it better than now!

Again: we pollute less as a proportion of GDP than you do. Do you understand what that means? If you said that to me in German, I wouldn't understand it, so I'm not being condescending, I'm being serious. Anyway, here's what I mean:

Say the world needs a million tractors to harvest food. If all of those 1 million tractors were built in China, their manufacture would produce, say, a billion tons of CO2. If they were all built in America, their manufacture would produce, say, 300 million tons of CO2. But not all of those tractors could be buit in the EU. Nevertheless, the world needs all of those tractors. Is it therefore fair to compare the pollution created by America's manufacture of those tractors to the EU's manufacture of scooters, Porsches, and bureaucrats? No, it isn't. Some country is going to have to make them, and it might as well be the country that can do it most efficiently and cleanly: us.

That's why you have to compare pollution as a proportion of GDP among countries. And when you do, you see that America produces more for less pollution than all the countries that lecture us about being dirty.

[Bombtrack]

It is therefore not surprising that a high percentage of Canadian youth think that the United States is evil. Nor is it surprising that this feeling is more ****ounced in Quebec where Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe said that he would rather live under the United Nations than the Stars and Stripes.

Why is that a bad thing, exactly?

[McLane]

Okay, i understand, very good example, indeed. But:

When you have to produce these tractors, why it is impossible (to you) to build tractors which need less fuel, for example? German Tractors (e.g.) uses leeeeeeeeeeeeess fuel than yours. That's what i am talking about: your 'american way of life' is to waste. Your country is the most biggest 'per-head-trash'-producers (i am taliking about the trash you made at your home!). Why your cars need around 15-25 litres per 100 Kilomteres? I know: it is cool to use a V8-Motor and your cars are even bigger than ours - but why it is not possible to buy a little bit smaller cars, with less fuel-need? i know that europeean 'over-the-top'-cars need aroudn 18litres, too. But the normal, european car needs 10 litres and less! Why your chemical industry porduce more harmful substances as ours (in %!)? Because we have more strict laws - and these laws were much better - even to you because you are one of the biggest countries in the world - if you produce only 15% less CO2 or somethin else, it would be great! Look at China! There are no ecological laws like we have - but because of their government there is no way to bring it on. But you are THE country in the world - and for you is it impossible? Sad.... very sad...


My englisch is very crappy, excuse this please... i hope you understand what i mean. ;)

[Old300]

Okay, i understand, very good example, indeed. But:

When you have to produce these tractors, why it is impossible (to you) to build tractors which need less fuel, for example? German Tractors (e.g.) uses leeeeeeeeeeeeess fuel than yours. That's what i am talking about: your 'american way of life' is to waste. Your country is the most biggest 'per-head-trash'-producers (i am taliking about the trash you made at your home!). Why your cars need around 15-25 litres per 100 Kilomteres? I know: it is cool to use a V8-Motor and your cars are even bigger than ours - but why it is not possible to buy a little bit smaller cars, with less fuel-need? i know that europeean 'over-the-top'-cars need aroudn 18litres, too. But the normal, european car needs 10 litres and less! Why your chemical industry porduce more harmful substances as ours (in %!)? Because we have more strict laws - and these laws were much better - even to you because you are one of the biggest countries in the world - if you produce only 15% less CO2 or somethin else, it would be great! Look at China! There are no ecological laws like we have - but because of their government there is no way to bring it on. But you are THE country in the world - and for you is it impossible? Sad.... very sad...


My englisch is very crappy, excuse this please... i hope you understand what i mean. ;)

Why? Because we have to travel vast distances. The distance between me and New York is the distance between London and Tehran. Think about that. Anyway, compare our per capita fuel consumption with Canada's or Australia's. I bet they'd be rather similar. Also, our families are larger, so our cars have to haul more people and things. But mostly, we have big cars because we like big cars.

Which is fine, because most of the pollution in the air comes from electricity production, forest fires, and livestock flatulence, not trips to grandma's house.

As for trash: who cares? We have a lot of room in the ground. Plastic is no less biodegradable or more polluting than, say, crude oil. Landfill space isn't an issue in this country (except, perhaps, in the northeast and even there, it's not really a problem).

[bobdakilla]

As a canadian teen I can asure u they are just teens having fun they saw the question and thought it would be funny if they said yes. Almost everyone I know doesnt give a **** about america they care about stuff liek high school and stuff. they dont watcht he news or any of that **** so dont think we are all dumb **** **** suckers

canada rocks

[memphiz]

Crazy Americans, you Shatner stealing Mexico touchers... p-)

[Bombtrack]

Crazy Americans, you Shatner stealing Mexico touchers... p-)

simpsons?

[memphiz]

Crazy Americans, you Shatner stealing Mexico touchers... p-)

simpsons?
Haha yeah ;)

[RomanS]

Who gives a **** what the Europeans, and the 40 % of Canadian teens think about USA?

[FinnishMF]

Who gives a **** what the Europeans, and the 40 % of Canadian teens think about USA?
:lol:

[Mark Sman]

Why your cars need around 15-25 litres per 100 Kilomteres?

Thats 9.4 to 15.6 mpg. Ummmmmmm only the largest cars and trucks in the US get this mileage. Like the Hummer. Most cars get 25 mpg or so, like 9.5 liters per 100 kilometers.

Who told you this?

http://www.pege.org/fuel/convert.htm
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/cafe/FuelEconUpdates/2002/index.htm

[Zarathustra]

Who gives a **** what the Europeans, and the 40 % of Canadian teens think about USA?

are u russian?

[MEGR]

http://h-blog.org/media/us_world_domination_tour_shirt.jpg

Sweet. Where can I pick this shirt up? I'd wear it whereever I go.

[memphiz]

Who gives a **** what the Europeans, and the 40 % of Canadian teens think about USA?

are u russian?
No hes just stupid ;)

[Zarathustra]

Who gives a **** what the Europeans, and the 40 % of Canadian teens think about USA?

are u russian?
No hes just stupid ;)


rofl rofl rofl :lol: ;)

[FinnishMF]

Who gives a **** what the Europeans, and the 40 % of Canadian teens think about USA?

are u russian?
No hes just stupid ;)
It's a same thing ? :roll:

[Ratamacue]

(equips flame-retardant suit)

[Durandal]

Poll: About 60% of Canadian teens aren't "Tree Hugging Hippies"

Edit: What the article does not say is that of those teens polled that think the U.S. is "Evil", 99% are from Quebec. :D

[memphiz]

Poll: About 60% of Canadian teens aren't "Tree Hugging Hippies"

Edit: What the article does not say is that of those teens polled that think the U.S. is "Evil", 99% are from Quebec. :D
Haha nicely said

[CRAZY MERC]

To HappyCat : Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[Deuterium]

Pics tells more than Words:

http://h-blog.org/media/us_world_domination_tour_shirt.jpg

rofl


Let me say that americans are not as evil as many think. But their government is *censored* And if you reduce your trash, buy "less-needing-fuel-cars", stop polluting the air, the water and the land - than you are a very nice country with very nice people to me ;)

Last time I looked BMW and Mercedes topped the charts for fuel INEFICIENT vehicles and they are from..... oh my gosh, that would be Germany.

[Deuterium]

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[Kilgor]

that shirt..

China something 6 ?

would that be the flying tigers operation ?

god.. who the hell made that shirt ? :roll:

[Milkman]

and 40% of American teenagers probably can't even tell you where Canada is.... hmmmm...
Atleast our cruise missles can. ;)

[Mark Sman]

Could be the Boxer Rebellion, although I'm sure someone else will say. "Thats not what its called."

Whatever, they left off a few anyway. If we are gonna get credit I want all of it. What about Oglala Nation or Six Rivers. How did we get Hawaii, I don't remember? Outright theft, or another purchase. Anyway I want credit for all of it, even if it takes both sides of the shirt.

For purposes of this shirt, I bet the Republic of Texas would even let us list them as part of the glorious empire, since its just a joke and all.

Does buying Louisiana, Alaska, California and all the other parts of the square states we bought count? I think it should. Maybe list it as a hostile merger. Still ours now. "Nener nener nener!"

[Durandal]

that shirt..

China something 6 ?

would that be the flying tigers operation ?

god.. who the hell made that shirt ? :roll:

I am trying to figure that out...

I know the Flying Tigers started in 1941 and their commander (re L. Chennault) was in Theater (Burma) around 1937 helping the Chinese.

The Boxer Rebellion, was not during a "6" year...

With that said...

In 1946 the U.S. managed a military truce was arranged in January 1946 between the Nationalists and Communists...brief as it was.

In 1926 several destroyers and light cruisers were dispatched from the Asiatic Fleet to help with instability along the Yangtze River. Afterwards they left, leaving gunboats to deal with anti-brigand patrols and commerce defense (some of you might Remember the U.S.S. Panay, which was sunk in 1937 by the Japanese. it was bulit in 1927 and later that year stationed on the Yangtze till its sinking).


Ok, never mind. I did a search for the T and found it. The China listing is for 1945-46. *snort*

The Korea-China is for 1950-53. (Yeah, right)

Man these guys suck. What about the Philippines? :D

[Mark Sman]

No doubt man, and Puerto Rico, Guam and the rest. We did Nicaragua a couple of times. It might even be time to let the Canadians know, umm , well you know.

I feal like I've been f(_)ck3d out of my Imperialist heritage and history.

[Durandal]

Here is a MUCH better lefty...

http://www.neravt.com/left/invade.htm

;)

[Mark Sman]

Although I might write different descriptions of some of the events, that is a good list.

Dam it makes me want to go oppress someone. We are such weenies today.

I have to get up early tommorrow though. Maybe I'll find time to oppress some people on the weekend.

[Kilgor]

It doesnt have france or germany on the shirt either :P

it really does suck !

[East]

Take it from first hand expirience. The avg. Canadian teen is so brainwashed with anti-American bull**** it makes me want to hurt them. :fork:

[szr]

Gah I just noticed Germany wasn't on that t-shirt! And that was some of our best WORLD DOMINATION too... :(

[Mark Sman]

Hey, how 'bout the old

vrrrrrrrrrrrrrr click

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

booom foooooshhhh

"I would like to take this time to introduce Viceroy Douglas MacArthur. He'll be ruling you and deciding what type of government you are allowed to have. Please don't force us to laugh at your puny little Emperor. Thank you, that is all."

[Kilgor]

It better be made in a immigrant sweat shop too, on minimum wage.

[McLane]

*lol* Nice thread.

@German Cars:

I already told you that there are german/european Cars which need over 15 litres, that's for sure. But i already told you, too, that these cars are only for the better payed people are (these cars costs around 40.000 - 80.000€) - most europeans drive a normal car and which need around 10 litres and less. Please read what i post ;) i got one more for you:

Oh ****, it is in german.... okay, forget it ;)

I don't want to blame anyone, a only said what i am thinkinging about this topic. I like the USA and the american people - what it would be great, if you do somethings better! Thats all i want.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

i just say, canux be gone from these boardz please!!!

Ya...right...I'm sure hood will jump right on that idea...

The fact is that teenagers are teenagers and definately dont give a **** about anything. They are definately the type of person to go to get a opinion on world affairs.

[J-10]

America is "evil" ?? hahaha, :lol: Teens are naughty in everywhere, specially when they know some "abuse" cases on TV.

Do you want to know Chinese people(specially youths) how to think America now?

In China, there is not anti-America propaganda to public on official media now. we don't think U.S.A. is Imperialism or "evil", though we both have some conflict in history. U.S.A. is a great nation, but not a perfect nation(there are not perfect nations in the world). American people are kindhearted, diligent, humour, fair, courteous(and patriotic), so we love Americans. Internal America is democratic, but international America is "America's interest is prior", all your force around the world are merely for "America's prior interest ". So think of America through this thread, most things become clear and simple.

[Shadow]

Who gives a **** what the Europeans, and the 40 % of Canadian teens think about USA?

People who post in this Thread!:P :roll: