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stuntman
07-25-2003, 02:55 PM
Now the Aussies are in the mix! (YESS!)


Project Overview
LAND 125 Soldier Combat System aims to optimise the capabilities of the combat soldier and combat units. The combination of individual combat soldiers, their units or teams and the interfaces with the external battle environment is termed the Soldier Combat System (SCS). LAND 125 is a developmental project involving studies in the areas of human performance, doctrine and operational techniques, training and relevant technologies. The project will require the selection and integration of a number of sub-systems to equip the individual soldier. Candidate technologies for the SCS could include hand-held data terminals, intra-section radios, weapon sights employing thermal imaging, laser rangefinding and target designation, head-up-displays, body function monitors, load carriage equipment and a range of ancillary equipment.
http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/lsd/land125/IMAGES/imgp0263.jpg

Soldiers from 1 RAR demonstrating the Land Warrior V0.6 Concept Technology Demonstrator at Singleton during May 2002
Is this contagious or what?


http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Orion/6278/papop-1.jpg
[/quote]Description: Similar in concept to the American OICW, the PAPOP is a two part weapon system consisting of a 5.56mm rifle unit and a 35mm grenade launcher. The grenade launcher feeds through a three round tubular magazine, and grenades can be set to either a standard burst or a proximity fused lateral burst pattern, allowing limited capability against targets in foxholes and the like. A special gas venting system prevents injury to the user when firing the grenade launcher. In addition, the weapon has a video sight mounted on the business end with a small adjustable LCD screen on the back, allowing a soldier to look around corners and even fire the rifle unit without exposing himself



http://www.mod.uk/img/sdr_new_chapter/fist.jpg
Even the Brits are down with it.
[quote]he FIST (Future Integrated Soldier Technology) programme aims to transform the capabilities of the individual infantryman [/img]

martinexsquaddie
07-25-2003, 03:29 PM
Fist et al is possibly the biggest money making scam going
the big question is will it help the poor sods on the line who got to take doen a bunch of 3rd world peasants with aks

Desert-Fox
07-25-2003, 05:07 PM
all the future warrior systems are bloody Genius!
how can you call that stuff a scam!?!?!?
if the land warrior system works the way it should work the western
countries could easily contain situations like the one in liberia
without many casualties! if any at all!

i dont get why there are so few posts here about all
the future warrior systems or the gun systems they are developing
like the XM8

USAF G
07-25-2003, 05:12 PM
You know, I've read Popular Science since I was a kid, and I'm still wondering when I'll be gettin' my flying car? I'll believe that stuff when it is all sorted out and not just a pipe dream, or some half assed contraption that gets us killed because it's windows based OS crashes. p-)

Shadow
07-25-2003, 05:14 PM
all the future warrior systems are bloody Genius!
how can you call that stuff a scam!?!?!?
if the land warrior system works the way it should work the western
countries could easily contain situations like the one in liberia
without many casualties! if any at all!

i dont get why there are so few posts here about all
the future warrior systems or the gun systems they are developing
like the XM8

My German SMP Thread
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2018[/url]

usa320
07-25-2003, 07:45 PM
"or some half assed contraption that gets us killed because it's windows based OS crashes."


Hehhehehee....

"This is Bravo 2-5, im under fire and my weapon has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down".

"Restart in safe mode."

Chris1
07-25-2003, 07:52 PM
You know, I've read Popular Science since I was a kid, and I'm still wondering when I'll be gettin' my flying car? I'll believe that stuff when it is all sorted out and not just a pipe dream, or some half assed contraption that gets us killed because it's windows based OS crashes. p-)
:lol:

The thing is Rommel, you've got a chance, which gets higher the more gadgets you bolt onto 'im, of generating too much information for the soldier and as such a soldier can get fixed more on the technology, than the guy with the AK tapping him on the shoulder.
Also
if your sticking your £1000 rifle round the corner with a £10,000 camera and picture system, and the guy on the other side is simply spraying you with a £50 AK and £10 worth of ammunition, you're going to lose.
You've hesitated, he hasn't.
You've broken up the pace of the battle and he's setting it now.
Without a doubt it has a role it could play, same as all this other hi-tech kit out there, but if it affects the basics (speed and aggression to name two) its worse than useless.

martinexsquaddie
07-26-2003, 01:52 AM
Fear the Penguin :lol:
rather than windows for assault rifles
I'm not sure how carrying all this kit would really help?

Desert-Fox
07-26-2003, 04:00 PM
i have to say i probably disagree with Everything Chris1 said.
i mean the whole point of all the gadgets is to increase the survivability of the soldier using them!
i think the only bad thing that this gadget could cause is that the soldier gets overly confident about his equipment and gets careless.

Scrim
07-26-2003, 04:14 PM
Good one usa320.
I think this old saying about sums it up-
If you put a Grunt in a padded sealed room with two steel ball-bearings, in 3 minutes he would break one and loose the other...

Chris1
07-27-2003, 07:57 AM
i have to say i probably disagree with Everything Chris1 said.
i mean the whole point of all the gadgets is to increase the survivability of the soldier using them!
i think the only bad thing that this gadget could cause is that the soldier gets overly confident about his equipment and gets careless.
Fair enough it seems to happen a lot around here :D
I can see how this kit would have a use for section/platoon/company/battalion commanders during reorg, but I can see how it could though up some problems during the fighting.