France hits new peak for births

[Chimera]

THE number of births in France is on the increase and hit 828,400 in 2008 – up 1.2% from 2007.

National statistics body Insee said there had been 796,000 infants born in metropolitan France and 32,400 Outre-Mer (in the overseas territories).

Births have now matched the peak seen in 2006 – which was the highest rate since 1981.

The secretary of state for the family, Nadine Morano, welcomed the figures saying they showed French people were thinking of the future in spite of the credit crunch.

Insee was updating provisional figures released in January that indicated the number of births was 834,000.

It said then that mothers had a fertility rate of 2.02 children and although this figure has not yet been updated it makes France the champion of Europe for births, matched only by Ireland. The average fertility rate across the European Union is 1.5 children per woman.

Iceland released figures last week showing its birth rate had increased by 3.5% – although that only amounted to 275 actual births in a country of 320,000 people. There the fertility rate has hit 2.14 – against 1.92 for the UK.

And I can vouch for the article, I see babies absolutely everywhere in my relatives, its pretty impressive..

http://www.connexionfrance.com/news_articles.php?id=1012

[futurepilot2004]

Just wait until the rightwing Americans find this thread.... "MUslim Invasion" "Eurabia" etc etc :)

[Universal_Soldier]

Just wait until the rightwing Americans find this thread.... "MUslim Invasion" "Eurabia" etc etc :)

I suggest we get a break down of who is giving birth in France.

Alien Invasion is still plausible p-)

[Derbedeu]

That's good news! Vive la France! :)

[muttbutt]

Just wait until the rightwing Americans find this thread.... "MUslim Invasion" "Eurabia" etc etc :)
LOL I thought the same thing before I opened this thread......Irish telepathy at workp-)

[chooky]

The most popular first name for a baby boy in France ......Mohamed.

[Chimera]

The most popular first name in Paris ......Mohamed.

Ahahahahahahhaha, hilarious.

[Atlantic Friend]

I suggest we get a break down of who is giving birth in France.

Alien Invasion is still plausible p-)

I for one welcome our toddler overlords... p-)

[little icebear]

According to statistics I read in Der Spiegel, France is going to catch up with Germany populationwise in 2050.
It was Eurostat who predicted that both countries will have something between 70 and 75 Million citizens each, meaning a decline of roughly 10 Millions for germany and a growth of round abount the same number for France.

[Atlantic Friend]

According to statistics I read in Der Spiegel, France is going to catch up with Germany populationwise in 2050.
It was Eurostat who predicted that both countries will have something between 70 and 75 Million citizens each, meaning a decline of roughly 10 Millions for germany and a growth of round abount the same number for France.

I read that too. It's going to be odd - France hasn't been the largest-populated nation of Western Europe since the days of Napoleon.

[darz]

The most popular first name for a baby boy in France ......Mohamed.
http://www.linternaute.com/femmes/prenoms/enfant/2009/

[Atlantic Friend]

Well, it's because the sneaky invading Mooselimbs call their kids Lucas Nathan Tom Jules Enzo Louis Hugo Mathis Ethan Gabriel Noah Arthur Maxime Thomas Theo Clement Leo Axel Timeo Maxence Mohamed, as we all know. ;)

[little icebear]

I read that too. It's going to be odd - France hasn't been the largest-populated nation of Western Europe since the days of Napoleon.

Jup, but despite all the attention (and often fearmongering) this topic gets - to those working in this field of science, it doesn´t come as a surprise...

As far as Germany is concerned, we have had a "prolonged" Baby Boom, throughout the 1950s and 1960s. Germany´s birth rate is pretty stable since the 1970s, so it is not as if people have decided to stop having children...

There will be balance again, sooner or later and other countries will be hit by the same phenomenon in a much harder fashion than us Euros.

I´m not worried.

[Derbedeu]

According to statistics I read in Der Spiegel, France is going to catch up with Germany populationwise in 2050.
It was Eurostat who predicted that both countries will have something between 70 and 75 Million citizens each, meaning a decline of roughly 10 Millions for germany and a growth of round abount the same number for France.

Predicting populations can always be a tricky business. Especially 40 years down the line. Either case, I'm happy to see that France is experiencing a resurgence in its birthrate. Who knows, maybe Germans will be inspired. :-D


I read that too. It's going to be odd - France hasn't been the largest-populated nation of Western Europe since the days of Napoleon.

Uh-oh, I hope the Brits have kept Wellington on standby. p-)


Well, it's because the sneaky invading Mooselimbs call their kids Lucas Nathan Tom Jules Enzo Louis Hugo Mathis Ethan Gabriel Noah Arthur Maxime Thomas Theo Clement Leo Axel Timeo Maxence Mohamed, as we all know. ;)

It seems to me like every single Muslim has some sort of variation of Mohamed as part of their name. It must be more common than John is in the English language.

[Kaapeli]

This is a well known phenomena whenever the economy is doing badly, there's a recession, war or some other disaster. It usually ends up in a babyboom.

It's strange how people make less children when they are doing well and feel safe. But then start having kids when their future looks uncertain. Must be some biological program.

[Derbedeu]

This is a well known phenomena whenever the economy is doing badly, there's a recession, war or some other disaster. It usually ends up in a babyboom.

It's strange how people make less children when they are doing well and feel safe. But then start having kids when their future looks uncertain. Must be some biological program.

Maybe people start realizing what's more important in their lives, instead of taking things for granted. Also, if your career isn't doing to well due to the economy, it makes sense that one would take solace in family. Just my 2 cents.

[raoul volfoni]

http://www.linternaute.com/femmes/prenoms/enfant/2009/
Look at the methodology: these stats are based on parent's declarations on this website. It's very "un-scientific" to say the least.

[zg18]

This is a well known phenomena whenever the economy is doing badly, there's a recession, war or some other disaster. It usually ends up in a babyboom.

It's strange how people make less children when they are doing well and feel safe. But then start having kids when their future looks uncertain. Must be some biological program.

It has sense , in Bosnia during the war far more children have been born than today in peace.

[little icebear]

It is not that unusual. Who produces more babies than people in the third world? There, kids are a means to make sure that you´ve got someone to take care of you when you are old.

100 years ago, it wasn´t that much different in Europe.

Today we´ve got insurance and stuff... we are capable of doing more planning and we will make kids when we´ve got the time to squeeze them into our busy schedule.
We also don´t have to make 4 or 5 kids just in case that ony half of them will make it into adulthood and we do have more and more reliable means of birth control.

[Andreas]

The most popular first name for a baby boy in France ......Mohamed.


Ahahahahahahhaha, hilarious.

I think there is more truth to it than you might expect

[b0sco]

I think there is more truth to it than you might expect

Stop with your NAZI LIES ok.

[Olybrius]

Look at the methodology: these stats are based on parent's declarations on this website. It's very "un-scientific" to say the least.

http://prenoms.doctissimo.fr/visu_classement.php?&rdNombre=30&rdLoc=0&rdDateDeb=1999&rdDateFin=2009&rdTypeClassement=0.php
Source : INSEE - Fichier des prénoms - édition 2007


Mohamed is not really popular ;) ,except in Seine Saint Denis ..lol
http://prenoms.doctissimo.fr/carte-france-prenoms.html
Source : INSEE - Fichier des prénoms - édition 2007

[Switek]

This is a well known phenomena whenever the economy is doing badly, there's a recession, war or some other disaster. It usually ends up in a babyboom.

It's strange how people make less children when they are doing well and feel safe. But then start having kids when their future looks uncertain. Must be some biological program.


Maybe people start realizing what's more important in their lives, instead of taking things for granted. Also, if your career isn't doing to well due to the economy, it makes sense that one would take solace in family. Just my 2 cents.



It has sense , in Bosnia during the war far more children have been born than today in peace.

I fully agree with below statement


It is not that unusual. Who produces more babies than people in the third world? There, kids are a means to make sure that you´ve got someone to take care of you when you are old.

But there is something another as well. There's theory that the most important component of life is our genotype which permanently compete with billions of others, so during every tensions, threats wars people started to make *** much more frequently without awareness of its real reasons which is to multiple genotype as many times as possible.

[Olybrius]

I think there is more truth to it than you might expect

really ? Mohamed is ranked 51 among new born male first name , Mehdi 77

[Chimera]

I think there is more truth to it than you might expect

And so what?

[futurepilot2004]

really ? Mohamed is ranked 51 among new born male first name , Mehdi 77

Dont let the truth get in the way of the fear mongers :)

[Andreas]

Stop with your NAZI LIES ok.

NO YOU!

Obama is al qaida, Cheney should be in power and the mooselimbs are taking over our lands and all our wiminz.

[little icebear]

But there is something another as well. There's theory that the most important component of life is our genotype which permanently compete with billions of others, so during every tensions, threats wars people started to make *** much more frequently without awareness of its real reasons which is to multiple genotype as many times as possible.

That would explain why there´s hardly any Action Movie without a *** scene. p-)

[Parx400]

This is a well known phenomena whenever the economy is doing badly, there's a recession, war or some other disaster. It usually ends up in a babyboom.

It's strange how people make less children when they are doing well and feel safe. But then start having kids when their future looks uncertain. Must be some biological program.

I think its more of the fact that ****ing is free. If you don't have any money to spend on anything ****ing sounds pretty damn good.

[Olybrius]

About the causes of the french high birthrate , there are 3 main factors according to Ined experts:

- Free nursery school for every 3 years old children (and cheap nurseries for younger).
- Children born out of wedlock are welcomed too in the french society (52% of total births)
- More and more pregnancies after 40 ; the birthrate didn't decline these last 30 years , babies just come later.

http://www.ined.fr/fichier/t_publication/1452/publi_pdf1_454.pdf

I would add its easy in France for working women to make babies , they are still paid ,won't lost her job and generally don't have to choose between a baby and a career.