PDA

View Full Version : AUSTRALIA should start torturing high-risk prisoners



Wally1967
08-25-2009, 05:34 PM
AUSTRALIA should start torturing high-risk prisoners, including terror suspects, a federal Liberal MP has argued.

Queensland MP Michael Johnson says there is a limited place for torture in civil societies, but says it must be done in an "appropriate way" and properly explained to the public.
Attorney-General Robert McClelland has blasted the MP, arguing there is no justification for the use of torture in a humane and civil society.

Mr Johnston's comments follow reports that the CIA and its anonymous sub-contractors used various forms of torture and other devices against terror suspects, including threats to kill their children and rape their mothers.
"I think that there is a very limited place for torture, and certainly where that torture takes place, it must be done in an appropriate way, and in an appropriate context," Mr Johnson told Sky News.

Mr Johnson has previously backed the pariah state of North Korea.
While the US Government had earlier acknowledged that it had used "waterboarding" - giving a victim a fear that they are being drowned -- other new techniques were now emerging including loading holding guns and power drills to people's heads.

"The Government's position is that torture is totally inconsistent with a humane and civilised society," Mr McClelland said last night.
"Torture compromises a nation's moral leadership and jeopardises the capacity to combat terrorism and counter extremism."

Ulytau
08-25-2009, 05:36 PM
Whats the
appropriate way of the torturing ? :|

Wally1967
08-25-2009, 05:37 PM
Mr McClelland called on Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull to repudiate Mr Johnson's comments.

A spokesman for Mr Turnbull said: "The Coalition does not condone torture under any circumstances".

But Mr Johnson gained some support from former opposition leader Brendan Nelson, who said it depended on how torture was defined.

Dr Nelson said the world faced a struggle against resurgent totalitarianism, predominantly by Islamic extremists whose adherents murdered 88 Australians in Bali in 2002 and 3000 mostly Americans on September 11, 2001.

"I just say to those people in this country and in other places in the world who want to sit back and comfortably tut-tut and express certain views about the use of certain interrogation techniques to remember that we are dealing with people who in many cases live by the most heinous standards if any," he said.

"We have to be prepared to stand up to them."

Wally1967
08-25-2009, 05:45 PM
Play the worst music 24hrs 7 days a week like heavy metal lol
until he start talking is the best way without harming IMO.

BigDukaroo
08-25-2009, 06:00 PM
Play the worst music 24hrs 7 days a week like ABBA lol
until he start talking is the best way without harming IMO.

Brilliant idea. It should work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctzIEjjOfd4

C.Fodder
08-25-2009, 06:19 PM
Play the worst music 24hrs 7 days a week like yodeling lol
until he start talking is the best way without harming IMO.

Brilliant idea, it will work.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whIj6mrUGzQ

Ordie
08-25-2009, 07:31 PM
a strict diet of vegemite and toast is cruel punishment.

SBL
08-25-2009, 07:48 PM
Play the worst music 24hrs 7 days a week like norteņo lol
until he start talking is the best way without harming IMO.


http://www.youtube.com/v/oIAH5uMECB4

http://www.youtube.com/v/Sdxg3N3jSzw

Wally1967
08-25-2009, 08:04 PM
a strict diet of vegemite and toast is cruel punishment.

Yum!
Do that to me you be forever blessed. lol

Alfacentori
08-25-2009, 08:32 PM
Is there room for the death penalty in civilized society for those convicted of terrorism, I think there is, no torture, just justice.

Alfa

BorisBC
08-25-2009, 09:37 PM
Is there room for the death penalty in civilized society for those convicted of terrorism, I think there is, no torture, just justice.

Alfa

The problem with the death penalty is if you get it wrong, your stuffed. Having said that though, I'm sure as hell not crying myself to sleep over the Bali bombers getting done!

deagle
08-26-2009, 12:24 AM
whats wrong with questioning w/ "encouragement" ??