Kennedy dead, "Good Riddance" Thread

[ferguson]

He was a major supporter and propagandist for the NVA, helping to keep them as players.
Lots of GIs died because of this.
He is responsible for cutting off ammo and supplies to the SVN govt. resulting in defeat and the death of millions.

The've been waiting for him.

[seraosha]

RIP Mary Jo Kopechne






*since the offer to start a different thread for those of us that think Ted Kennedy was a fink was suggested by two different mods, I thought I'd take them up on the offer. Please post here if you aren't shedding any tears for the late senator, and please refrain from posting anything ugly on the other thread. While in general I don't like to speak ill of the dead, in Ted Kennedy's case, I'll make an exception. Hope he rots in Hell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquid****_incident

[Dan2004]

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

My .02.

[Podman]

Good post seraosha. I think it's best not to get into a fight with those that want to lionize him.

That said, I think these articles best express how I will choose to remember Sen. Kennedy:

http://www.jeffjacoby.com/4482/ted-kennedys-anti-american-slander

http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg200404121000.asp

Plus, he had the nerve to name one of his dogs Splash. The man had no shame.

[wotsnext]

Removed....(Bad taste) :oops:

[Albatross]

This is poor form, guy made horrible decisions in the past and now he is dead.

[grenadier07]

I understand he was a Senator for almost 50 years but I really don't like the idea of him being buried amongst so many dead servicemembers at Arlington.

[ronnieraygun]

This is poor form, guy made horrible decisions in the past and now he is dead.

x2. Don't have to be a fan, but no offense Ferg, speaking too ill of the dead unless they're Mengele or something is bad.

[SBL]

I understand he was a Senator for almost 50 years but I really don't like the idea of him being buried amongst so many dead servicemembers at Arlington.
He was in the Army, too.

[Chulo]

then again, he did get away with murder

[The Dane]

This is poor form, guy made horrible decisions in the past and now he is dead.

I agree.. bad taste.

[Jobu]

As far as I'm concerned he murdered that girl.
And, he was an IRA supporter for a long time.

I won't be shedding any tears. He should have died in prison.

[LineDoggie]

Diagrams of the accident, as you can see he could have walked to the fire house in less than 5 minutes

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/diagram3.gif
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/dia2.gif
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/waterlevels2.gif

Instead he went back to the party.

I dont a rats ass whatever else he did since then doesnt make up for this callous act. Teddy pack your summer clothes as its hot where you are. Hope you enjoy Pineapples.......

[Connaught Ranger]

This is poor form, guy made horrible decisions in the past and now he is dead.


Yeah and we reserve the right to commemorate him and his clan for the pricks they were!woot

[Ordie]

Bad taste.

Especially towards family that sacrificed a lot for thier country.

[Chulo]

Bad taste.

Especially towards family that sacrificed a lot for thier country.
True, but they (Congress and elected officials) can call solders "rapist" "murders" an "carpet bombing" bastards that scare people in the homes

[The Dane]

Bad taste.

Especially towards family that sacrificed a lot for thier country.

Yeah.. i don't like him particually but let the family bury him before start pissing on him.. in my opinion.

[2495]

Diagrams of the accident, as you can see he could have walked to the fire house in less than 5 minutes

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/diagram3.gif
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/dia2.gif
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/waterlevels2.gif

Instead he went back to the party.

I dont a rats ass whatever else he did since then doesnt make up for this callous act. Teddy pack your summer clothes as its hot where you are. Hope you enjoy Pineapples.......


All you need to know about the man right there. he was happy for others to die if it suited his political or personal gain.

100% scumbag.

[Podman]

Yeah.. i don't like him particually but let the family bury him before start pissing on him.. in my opinion.

Danskeren: I would tend to agree but it would be nice if his friends and supporters would wait until his family buries him before they start exploiting his death for political gain:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.042f28c9079866457d38460339a34a8b.61&show_article=1

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0809/Byrd_Rename_health_care_bill_for_Kennedy.html

[SniperLane]

the bastard.

dying is not enough in my opinion.

[seraosha]

The thread title is in English, and leaves no doubt as to the intent of the topic.

Why do you post in this thread to say what a bad thread it is? Tell you what, go post a few more "RIP" posts on the other kennedy thread and let those of us that are not fans vent in this one. We have chosen to do it in a suggested fasion from the mods on this board, so show us some respect.

You know, set the example you are trying to impress us with.
On the other thread.

[Jobu]

Maybe the IRA can dig up some of those old weapons and serve as honor guard at his funeral.

[Geezah]

As far as I'm concerned he murdered that girl.
And, he was an IRA supporter for a long time.

I won't be shedding any tears. He should have died in prison.

Amen..............

RIP Mary Jo Kopechne

[California Joe]

This guy wasn't Hitler for chrissakes. And some of you 20 year old c*nts that can't name a single piece of legislation that he worked on that probably enabled you to be able to read, barely, should check your bullsh*t at the door.

The old guys, fire away. Knock yourselves out...

This guy was admittedly a clusterf*ck personally for a great number of years but he was involved in public service for as many years as I've been alive, and that's a good deal longer than some of you.

His greatest strength as a Senator was apparently his ability to cross the aisle and craft some meaningful legislation with the very Senators that used him as a "Liberal bogey man" when it came time to campaign for their next election cycle. Watch the news and listen to the eulogies coming from the conservatives that knew him personally...He even helped G.Gordon Liddys daughter while he was in prison for chrissakes...

Looking at him as a human being, I don't know how the rest of us would persevere if we had an asshole father and all of our male siblings were killed or murdered and mythologized...the entire weight of that legacy passed to him. I don't know about you, but privilege or not, that's a pretty damned hard road...

Hey, somebody had to...

[The Dane]

The thread title is in English, and leaves no doubt as to the intent of the topic.

Why do you post in this thread to say what a bad thread it is? Tell you what, go post a few more "RIP" posts on the other kennedy thread and let those of us that are not fans vent in this one. We have chosen to do it in a suggested fasion from the mods on this board, so show us some respect.

You know, set the example you are trying to impress us with.
On the other thread.

boohoo.. :roll: i know we have "just pics" "just news" "just discussion" treads.. but "just hate" treads are new to me.. lowers the standard of the forum in my humble opinion. I dont hope we see to many of these.

[Podman]

California Joe - Unfortunately he often didn't treat the people he disagreed with like human beings. Here is how he demonized Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork:

“Robert Bork’s America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens’ doors in midnight raids, schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution, writers and artists would be censored at the whim of the government ...”

In my opinion, a lot of the current nastiness in our politics can be traced back to some of the tactics used by Sen. Kennedy.

[commanding]

He was in the Army, too.
How bout that. Thanks for pointing that out, I had no idea he served in the army...the bio says his dads connections kept him from going to Korea and the shooting war.

Anyone want to guess if they will name the new healthcare bill the Kennedy healthcare bill?

[Connaught Ranger]

How bout that. Thanks for pointing that out, I had no idea he served in the army...the bio says his dads connections kept him from going to Korea and the shooting war.

Anyone want to guess if they will name the new healthcare bill the Kennedy healthcare bill?

Well the family made a lot of "connections" running booze during the prohibition period.rofl

[commanding]

...He even helped G.Gordon Liddys daughter while he was in prison for chrissakes...

Looking at him as a human being, I don't know how the rest of us would persevere if we had an asshole father and all of our male siblings were killed or murdered and mythologized...o...

great points CJ. I had no idea about him helping Liddys daughter...will take your word on that. I can empathize with the asshat father deal.

[Sweetwater]

Obama: Ted Kennedy greatest senator of our time




A grieving President Barack Obama paid tribute to Sen. Edward M. Kennedy Wednesday, calling him a colleague, counselor and friend who etched his place in history as a "singular figure" on the American political landscape.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_kennedy_obama;_ylt=AldLDHdhkYYEkVT1zzhRC2Ss0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTMxMTZtcTk3BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkwODI2L3VzX29iaXRfdGVkX2tlbm5lZHkEY3BvcwMxBHBvcwM3BHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNvYmFtYWtlbm5lZHk

I'm truley lost in words. How could the president of United States of America make a claim like that?

[Chulo]

Obama: Ted Kennedy greatest senator of our time





http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_kennedy_obama;_ylt=AldLDHdhkYYEkVT1zzhRC2Ss0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTMxMTZtcTk3BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkwODI2L3VzX29iaXRfdGVkX2tlbm5lZHkEY3BvcwMxBHBvcwM3BHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNvYmFtYWtlbm5lZHk

I'm truley lost in words. How could the president of United States of America make a claim like that?

well his HMO bill helped pave the way for a crappy health care system that then enable Obama to use it as a key issue to get voted in.

[INAT]

Bad taste.

Especially towards family that sacrificed a lot for thier country.

Agree,never realized how hated he really was.


May his giant head RIP.

[RxOnco]

Everyone that dies is deemed the greatest _______ of all time...for a week or so. Then, we all move on. We'll do the same. The media will have a complete circle jerk over this until they put him in the ground. After that, they'll use it to lead the charge on the Healthcare Reform.

I agree with Rush. It would be a disgrace to use his name in order to pass this legislation. Old Ted lived a long year with a very lethal form of brain cancer. How did he do it? With money and his own private healthcare plan. This afforded him opportunity to get the best care possible. At 77 years old, with the proposed plan, he would likely not have received any treatment at all leaving him dead a few weeks to a month later.

[2495]

Agree,never realized how hated he really was.


May his giant head RIP.

This isn't a dig at you INAT, but In my opinion why should he rest in peace? he left a young girl to drown, alone, afraid, in an upturned car and didn't give a fvck about her or the impact it would have on her family. Ever seen the photo of her finger marks as they clawed at the roof?

I hope his death is restless and tormented - bastard deserves nothing less.

[2495]

I agree with Rush. It would be a disgrace to use his name in order to pass this legislation. Old Ted lived a long year with a very lethal form of brain cancer. How did he do it? With money and his own private healthcare plan. This afforded him opportunity to get the best care possible. At 77 years old, with the proposed plan, he would likely not have received any treatment at all leaving him dead a few weeks to a month later.

Thats what the kennedy clan is all about - rule over the masses and a seperate set of rules for them; just like all politians, Obama, Clintons, Bush's, they don't give a fvck about the masses as long as they get their way.

[can]

I just picked up 6 points and had a post deleted on the other thread because I don't think he's worth any of my time or tears. Glad to see others see it that way too.

[INAT]

Why should he rest in peace? he left a young girl to drown, alone, afraid, in an upturned car and didn't give a fvck about her or the impact it would have on her family. Ever seen the photo of her finger marks as they clawed at the roof?

I hope his death is restless and tormented - bastard deserves nothing less.


Ok fine don't RIP I could not and will not care less.


RIP is popular around here i was just trying to fit in.p-)

[commanding]

I kind of liked JFK, and was in high school when he was president...here is a photo of him I took on Nov. 22, 1963 when he was driving to Carswell AFB for his flight to Dallas, this was about 11AM local time:

http://i31.tinypic.com/2qxui44.jpg

and I liked Robert Kennedy too, but I never cared a lot for Teddy, as I grew older and more conservative.

http://i29.tinypic.com/azffjk.jpg

[martinexsquaddie]

supported people who placed bombs in litter bins and killed kids.
just so he could pick up votes

[seraosha]

boohoo.. :roll: i know we have "just pics" "just news" "just discussion" treads.. but "just hate" treads are new to me.. lowers the standard of the forum in my humble opinion. I dont hope we see to many of these.

If you can't be bothered to read the sign on the door, I'm supposed to give a rats ass about your opinion? So, let me guess how much the good senators life, legislation, or political involvement influenced your life...

0%

Am I close, or were you just looking for an excuse to post on this thread...what, 3 times now? Spare me your jaded oh so uneffected disdain.:roll:

[FullMetalJackass]

I just wish he would have died later, after suffering longer with the brain tumor......


eta:

The tumor should be removed, intact, and given a medal.

[TheSteve]

Grow up guys. Seriously, he's dead now. He won't be in the senate any longer planning a socialistic take over of YOUR life, so don't sweat it.

And ferguson, why don't you direct your anger towards the architects of the Vietnam war instead of an anti-war politician?


well his HMO bill helped pave the way for a crappy health care system that then enable Obama to use it as a key issue to get voted in.
The HMOs of the early 1970s were a wee bit different than the HMOs of today jackass.

[Chulo]

The HMOs of the early 1970s were a wee bit different than the HMOs of today jackass.
Name calling is not going to make your argument or views any stronger or valid.
HMOs today grew out of the plan developed and put into place by Ted Kennedy. There was an intentional development of a plan that hybridized the worst of the systems that ensured a "clearing house" that did not make the system any more efficient and helped the politicians get a nice kickback. If the plan that was put into place was so good, i dont understand why Congress had never signed on to the same system.

[CMNot]

He is now officially my favourite type of IRA sympathiser.

[The Dane]

If you can't be bothered to read the sign on the door, I'm supposed to give a rats ass about your opinion? So, let me guess how much the good senators life, legislation, or political involvement influenced your life...

0%

Am I close, or were you just looking for an excuse to post on this thread...what, 3 times now? Spare me your jaded oh so uneffected disdain.:roll:

So .. this is an " American only" tread as well ?
I'll post my opinion in what ever thread i feel like.
Your personal forum rules wont change that.

[11 Bravo]

Bad taste.

Especially towards family that sacrificed a lot for thier country.

Sacrificed alot huh... jeez let's see his daddy was just sort of a heil hitler admirer and even got the lefty "king" rossevelt in hot water with England during WW2 with his bloviated disgusting admiration of der furher.
His brother JFK got sent to the PTO because he was screwing a known foriegn agent... his um medal winning feats got that detail swept under the rug.
That JFK and RFK got murdered sure is sad... but how does the family connection to teddy make that alcoholic sloth of a left nutter great .... especially when he cost the life of a young woman over his boozing and whoring.
All the cousins/family involved in rapes and murders... all very well priveledged due to the prohibiiton illgotten booze money. Yeah they are such a great family my ass.
Last time I heard an average joe out whoring around that gets into a car accident and gets some poor young girl dead , gets a directly go to jail ride being charged with DUI and murder.

[2495]

He is now officially my favourite type of IRA supporter.

rofl and i'll throw in a woot for good measure.

[11 Bravo]

I agree with Rush. It would be a disgrace to use his name in order to pass this legislation. Old Ted lived a long year with a very lethal form of brain cancer. How did he do it? With money and his own private healthcare plan. This afforded him opportunity to get the best care possible. At 77 years old, with the proposed plan, he would likely not have received any treatment at all leaving him dead a few weeks to a month later.

That's the nail in the coffin... all pun intended.

[seraosha]

So .. this is an " American only" tread as well ?
I'll post my opinion in what ever thread i feel like.
Your personal forum rules wont change that.

Of course not, but it confirmed that you are trolling this thread.
Bad troll, no cookie.

[The Dane]

Of course not, but it confirmed that you are trolling this thread.
Bad troll, no cookie.

If speaking my opinion is trolling so be it.. let the moderators decide on that.

[happyslapper]

"Don't Speak Ill of the Dead"

Aye, generally, but I've a few things to say about our mate Ted.

I have sympathy for his family and friends, and would certainly wish pain on nobody, but I'll lose no sleep over his passing.



IRA sympathiser Ted Kennedy was no friend of Britain

It says much about humanity’s basic urge to be ruled by dynasties that Teddy Kennedy came anywhere near being elected president in 1980. Whatever his other qualities, his behaviour at Chappaquid**** eleven years earlier, where he might have been able to save Mary Jo Kopechne’s life but instead chose to save his own career by waiting until his blood/alcohol level reached a legal level, would have ruled out anyone else from becoming local rat catcher, let alone leader of the greatest nation on earth.
But after the murder of his brothers John and Bobby, Teddy became America’s atheling – until the public realised there was little good left to come out of that clan (with the exception of Arnold Schwarzenegger, married to Teddy’s niece Maria Shriver).
Kennedy was no doubt a dedicated servant of Congress and a passionate believer in combating poverty, but his lasting legacy on this side of the Atlantic was to poison Anglo-American relations for a generation. It’s not often said aloud but many British people when they first saw United 175 hit the World Trade Centre felt, alongside shock, pity and a sense of solidarity with the American people, also a feeling of “now you know what terrorism is like, will you stop funding the murder of our people?”
For years Kennedy was the bang-drummer-in-chief for brainless Irish-American IRA sympathisers, dimwits who shouted “troops out of Dublin!” and sang maudlin songs from the comfort of Boston and New York, giving money for strangers 3,000 miles away to murder their neighbours.
For despite the pseudo-Marxist justifications the IRA used, which was obviously lapped up by useful idiots on both sides of the Irish Sea and across the Atlantic, their goal was always ethnic cleansing against their neighbours, the people who Americans still call “the Scots-Irish”.
Kennedy himself said that Ulster Protestants “should be given a decent opportunity to go back to Britain”, without in any way suggesting he would give Boston back to the Indians (or the English-Americans, for that matter) and return to Co. Wexford. He compared Britain’s presence in Ulster with America’s in Vietnam, and later forced Jimmy Carter to ban arm sales to the RUC, blackening the name of that tirelessly heroic band of men, each one of them worth a thousand spoiled Ivy League playboys.
Kennedy spoke out against violence in Northern Ireland while cosying up to IRA terrorists, the cause of the violence, ensuring Gerry Adams could visit the States in 1996 and celebrate that great festival of plastic patriotism and falseness, the American St Patrick’s Day Festival. He only later distanced himself from Sinn Fein/IRA after their goons murdered Robert McCartney and the American public woke up to the reality of “the boys”.
It’s bad manners to speak ill of the dead, before his family have got the chance to bury their loved one, but it cannot go forgotten. I’m sure Kennedy was essentially a good man and a servant of his own country, but he was certainly no friend of ours.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100007596/ira-sympathiser-ted-kennedy-was-no-friend-of-britain/


This was a man who was Plastic-Paddy-in-Chief, a fvcking cvnt who supported the IRA as they went about blowing up their neighbours. Tomorrow is the 30th anniversary of the Warrentpoint massacre, when 18 brave Paras were brutally murdered using weapons funded by this man's rhetoric. I'll mourn them, not him.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=163837

That's all I have to say, I'm sure St Peter will have a few things more...

[California Joe]

I just picked up 6 points and had a post deleted on the other thread because I don't think he's worth any of my time or tears. Glad to see others see it that way too.

You got 6 points for ignoring the 42 warnings by other Mods about asshattery. Feel free to whine some more though.

[XShipRider]

Good post seraosha. I think it's best not to get into a fight with those that want to lionize him.



Lionize is probably too strong a word in describing expressions of condolence for his death. I vehemently disagreed with the man's political views and stands, but would lament the loss of any sitting office holder (even Barney Frank, if you can believe that).

If you read my post there I describe him as "bigger than life." This is not to express admiration, rather it was an observance of his stature and demeanor (and he wasn't quite so portly then either). Many, many people are bigger than life when you see them in person. Express your disagreement with them but always treat them with respect. People expect in-kind treatment but want to disrespect those around them. I just don't get it.

Now, do I think he got away with involuntary manslaughter (or worse)? Yep. Do I have strong reservations about his family's dealings with ne'er do wells? Yep. Do I think his father made his money illegally? Yep. Do I think his brother Robert, as Attorney General, tried to whitewash the family name? Yep.

Watch and see, another Democrat will take his seat and hold it for a very long time. Mass' doesn't seem to want change... ever. At least on the national stage they don't desire such change.

[Albatross]

The thread title is in English, and leaves no doubt as to the intent of the topic.

Why do you post in this thread to say what a bad thread it is? Tell you what, go post a few more "RIP" posts on the other kennedy thread and let those of us that are not fans vent in this one. We have chosen to do it in a suggested fasion from the mods on this board, so show us some respect.

You know, set the example you are trying to impress us with.
On the other thread.

I post in here, because I can. Why would I respect you, because you I strongly disgree with your views on almost everything? You can get ****ed.

I don't agree, or disagree with Ted's views on much. He wasn't my senator, and I am willing to bet even money that he isn't yours either. So spare me the "He ruined my life and my country!" Tangent, because its bull****. We have crap politicians everywhere, just like every other country on the face of the planet. Get over it.:roll:

[hank]

Its hard to impossible to respect hate. Especially largely uninformed hate. Or hate the somebody on the radio told you was a good idea.

Ted was no saint and I sure wouldn't defend a lot of what he did but if you can't put politics aside and not bash the guy on the day he dies it says a lot about you.

What will folk say about you--those of you that are bashing the guy on the day he dies--when you die? I'll give you the same respect I'll give Ted. But it might be difficult for me.

hank

[can]

You got 6 points for ignoring the 42 warnings by other Mods about asshattery. Feel free to whine some more though.
Not whining,just stating what happened. You don't really think I care what you think, do you?

[Mastermind]

I flew my American Flag today...in respect for the future of my country...it seems so much brighter now.

[JUNKHO]

Am for the thread title, first and similar posts. Will be glad when funeral is finished.

No head bowed for him, no salute, nothing.

*turns his back*

[Jobu]

Its hard to impossible to respect hate. Especially largely uninformed hate. Or hate the somebody on the radio told you was a good idea.

Ted was no saint and I sure wouldn't defend a lot of what he did but if you can't put politics aside and not bash the guy on the day he dies it says a lot about you.

What will folk say about you--those of you that are bashing the guy on the day he dies--when you die? I'll give you the same respect I'll give Ted. But it might be difficult for me.

hank


He murdered one girl, leaving her to claw at the interior roof of the submerged car for hours while she screamed and drowned.
He very likely contributed to the death of many innocent Britons through his support for the IRA.

Yea, "Ted was no saint."

[2495]

He murdered one girl, leaving her to claw at the interior roof of the submerged car for hours while she screamed and drowned.
He very likely contributed to the death of many innocent Britons through his support for the IRA.

Yea, "Ted was no saint."

Seems weird that the man can leave a girl to die an agonising death, lie and cheat and evade justice, and still be offered any respect.

The moment he condemned that poor girl to her watery death, he became no better than any other fvcking scum bag sat on death row for murder.

[seraosha]

I post in here, because I can. Why would I respect you, because you I strongly disgree with your views on almost everything? You can get ****ed.

I don't agree, or disagree with Ted's views on much. He wasn't my senator, and I am willing to bet even money that he isn't yours either. So spare me the "He ruined my life and my country!" Tangent, because its bull****. We have crap politicians everywhere, just like every other country on the face of the planet. Get over it.:roll:

The best part of your posts is your avatar.

The irony is that if anyone who dares to express a negative opinion about the late senator on the other thread gets infractions, posts deleted and possibly banned...but **** monkeys like you can come over on this thread and post pretty much whatever you want.

Thats cool, no one ever accused our beloved mods of even handedness or of being fair, although I do think they try...some more than others.

But this thread is serving it purpose...as a place to vent and leaving the other thread for respectful condolances, and I'm fine with that.
But your true colors are showing in your intolerant attacks on those with different opinions, as expected.

[shocker1]

It is absolutely wrong to relish the death of a person. Sometimes the actions of said person draws this loathing that I feel myself for the late Senator. I get sick of hearing how he sacrificed so much in public service. Making a nest in the Senate is by no means some kind of hard choice that causes great sacrifice and hardship. I am glad his term limit kicked in, I despise the man but at the same time he was a much better senator than many of the partisan hacks up there. I say they can all rot in hell and the greatest thing is they have a permanent term limit at some point.

[seraosha]

Its hard to impossible to respect hate. Especially largely uninformed hate. Or hate the somebody on the radio told you was a good idea.

Ted was no saint and I sure wouldn't defend a lot of what he did but if you can't put politics aside and not bash the guy on the day he dies it says a lot about you.

What will folk say about you--those of you that are bashing the guy on the day he dies--when you die? I'll give you the same respect I'll give Ted. But it might be difficult for me.

hank

Be sure to have a loved one post here after you die, I'll warrant you get better copy than Ted will on this thread.

[2495]

It is absolutely wrong to relish the death of a person..

Is it? really? if any one killed my daughter I would relish the day the fvcking piece of sh1t died.

Kennedy was a killer. He killed a girl in a cold water filled car. He could of took it like a man, ran for help, saved her and become President at a later time with a mild 'oops' against him.

Thats not what he did.

He left some ones beloved daughter in an upturned car to die an agonising death, ran like a chicken sh1t and tried to cover it up.

Hope that brain tumor hurt like fvck as well.

[LineDoggie]

Not whining'just stating what happened. You don't really think I care what you think, do you? You should

[shocker1]

Is it? really? if any one killed my daughter I would relish the day the fvcking piece of sh1t died.

Kennedy was a killer. He killed a girl in a cold water filled car. He could of took it like a man, ran for help, saved her and become President at a later time with a mild 'oops' against him.

Thats not what he did.

He left some ones beloved daughter in an upturned car to die an agonising death, ran like a chicken sh1t and tried to cover it up.

Hope that brain tumor hurt like fvck as well.
You need some manners or an attitude adjustment. It is wrong like it or not. The Senator however is a bad bad example of voter complacency and acceptance of the crimes he committed back then. It still does not make it right to be gleeful at his death. That is how I was raised and I think it is the right way to be, it avoids hardening your own heart as the late Senator's was. Btw if your daughter was the victim then maybe then you could take the high road here. However strength of character and compassion will put you in a league far beyond this piss poor excuse for a politician. Be better than him.

[California Joe]

Not whining,just stating what happened. You don't really think I care what you think, do you?

Get f*cked.


The best part of your posts is your avatar.

The irony is that if anyone who dares to express a negative opinion about the late senator on the other thread gets infractions, posts deleted and possibly banned...but **** monkeys like you can come over on this thread and post pretty much whatever you want.

Thats cool, no one ever accused our beloved mods of even handedness or of being fair, although I do think they try...some more than others.

But this thread is serving it purpose...as a place to vent and leaving the other thread for respectful condolances, and I'm fine with that.
But your true colors are showing in your intolerant attacks on those with different opinions, as expected.

It's always been policy around here to not sh*t all over RIP type threads. Not everyone has the same sensitivities or political affiliations, hell, most of the posts deleted in that thread were by an Aussie Mod for chrissakes.

This thread is still open just for some of the Jerry Bruckheimer descriptions of the drowning incident. And getting all butthurt over people slinging mud in a mud slinging thread is rather redundant. Are you off your meds amigo? F*cking Jobu is probably producing a youtube reenaction as we speak. Jesus, some of you guys act like you've never killed a drunk broad.

[Geezah]

You need some manners or an attitude adjustment. It is wrong like it or not. The Senator however is a bad bad example of voter complacency and acceptance of the crimes he committed back then. It still does not make it right to be gleeful at his death. That is how I was raised and I think it is the right way to be, it avoids hardening your own heart as the late Senator's was. Btw if your daughter was the victim then maybe then you could take the high road here. However strength of character and compassion will put you in a league far beyond this piss poor excuse for a politician. Be better than him.

I'm just wondering if the bomb that was planted under Hammersmith Bridge back in 96, the night I crossed over the Bridge from Stamford Brook to go and see my mate in Barnes was somehow aquired by the IRA through the support Ted Kennedy?

As I understand it, the detonator went off but the bomb did not.........
It was only after I left my mates and tried to get on one of the access roads in Barnes to the bridge to go home that I found out from the Police that had blocked off the road what had taken place.
I had to use Kew Bridge instead.

They did this after a tremendous amount of money was spent to decorate the bridge.

Ted Kennedy can rot for all I care, anyone that gave support to the IRA can rot......

[Elbs]

Jesus, some of you guys act like you've never killed a drunk broad.

That takes the cake. /thread

[shocker1]

I'm just wondering if the bomb that was planted under Hammersmith Bridge back in 96, the night I crossed over the Bridge from Stamford Brook to go and see my mate in Barnes was somehow aquired by the IRA through the support Ted Kennedy?

As I understand it, the detonator went off but the bomb did not.........
It was only after I left my mates and tried to get on one of the access roads in Barnes to the bridge to go home that I found out from the Police that had blocked off the road what had taken place.
I had to use Kew Bridge instead.

They did this after a tremendous amount of money was spent to decorate the bridge.

Ted Kennedy can rot for all I care, anyone that gave support to the IRA can rot......
Are you trying to convince me that Ted was an evil bastard child of Satan? I thought that long ago. My point has nothing in this world to do with that. Throwing a party and reveling in his death will bring you down to his level. Trust me I will not shed a tear.

[Geezah]

Are you trying to convince me that Ted was an evil bastard child of Satan? I thought that long ago. My point has nothing in this world to do with that. Throwing a party and reveling in his death will bring you down to his level. Trust me I will not shed a tear.

OK, that's fair enough.

I won't be having a party, but I won't hold back when I see my Wife's Aunt next weekend who lives in MA and works at Mas General.

[2495]

Jesus, some of you guys act like you've never killed a drunk broad.


.........errrr............ ummmm...........ahhhh.... ummmmmm.... ok.

Guess we should called that a day then.

[California Joe]

Alrightee then, I'll bring the wood chipper around.

[Holmes85]

Alrightee then, I'll bring the wood chipper around.

Please, somebody tell me I'm not the only one that knows where that scene comes from?

[Podman]

Lionize is probably too strong a word in describing expressions of condolence for his death. I vehemently disagreed with the man's political views and stands, but would lament the loss of any sitting office holder (even Barney Frank, if you can believe that).

If you read my post there I describe him as "bigger than life." This is not to express admiration, rather it was an observance of his stature and demeanor (and he wasn't quite so portly then either). Many, many people are bigger than life when you see them in person. Express your disagreement with them but always treat them with respect. People expect in-kind treatment but want to disrespect those around them. I just don't get it.

Now, do I think he got away with involuntary manslaughter (or worse)? Yep. Do I have strong reservations about his family's dealings with ne'er do wells? Yep. Do I think his father made his money illegally? Yep. Do I think his brother Robert, as Attorney General, tried to whitewash the family name? Yep.

Watch and see, another Democrat will take his seat and hold it for a very long time. Mass' doesn't seem to want change... ever. At least on the national stage they don't desire such change.

XShipRider - I wasn't specifically referring to your post or any other on the RIP Ted Kennedy thread. I just thought it good to have two threads: one for those that respect the man and one for those who feel differently. That way you avoid what is now happening to this one.

As for Teddy, yes he was larger than life. And I agree that that deserves to be acknowledged. That said, as can be seen by the opinions here, the man was responsible for the death of at least one person and perhaps (definitely in my opinion) many more. I'm sorry, but some people rightly find it hard to respect someone as unapologetic as Teddy with blood on their hands.

Finally, if you look at my actual posts, I do think I treated him with respect on this forum. I met him and know he tried to serve his country as far as his flawed character could so I do think he merits my respect. As for others that disgaree, I'm fine with that as well.

[Podman]

Jeez - I was typing a post and all of the sudden the wood chipper shows up.

I'm outta here.

PS - Holmes - is it Fargo?

[2495]

rofl
Alrightee then, I'll bring the wood chipper around.

rofl
rofl
rofl

own a pig farm as well? "Hence the term "Greedy as a pig!".

[Holmes85]

Jeez - I was typing a post and all of the sudden the wood chipper shows up.

I'm outta here.

PS - Holmes - is it Fargo?

.......Yes!

[Geezah]

rofl

rofl
rofl
rofl

own a pig farm as well? "Hence the term "Greedy as a pig!".

Snatch.....

[2495]

Snatch.....

Indeed. Mr Brick top.

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/4HAQ3pNHwj4

Legendary line.

[Podman]

.......Yes!

Thought so. I'm originally from Minnesota so I love that movie.

Yaaaa....

[BudW]

Is it? really? if any one killed my daughter I would relish the day the fvcking piece of sh1t died.

Kennedy was a killer. He killed a girl in a cold water filled car. He could of took it like a man, ran for help, saved her and become President at a later time with a mild 'oops' against him.

Thats not what he did.

He left some ones beloved daughter in an upturned car to die an agonising death, ran like a chicken sh1t and tried to cover it up.

Hope that brain tumor hurt like fvck as well.

Spoken like a Christian

[HollywoodMarine]

If he's such "a great <cough> senator," why do I find these on the internet?

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/rmkeeley/TedKennedyPlans.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/orangecrush1969_stewart/tedkennedy_gitmo.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z84/PhilbertDesanex/aquaman.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h147/BrickmanP/uss-ted-kennedy.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h258/canb4life/Carole/tedchap.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh166/greenacres3/1230787_1014333.jpg

[LineDoggie]

Spoken like a ChristianHow do you know he is a Christian? or just throwing it out there hoping it will stick?

[2495]

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh166/greenacres3/1230787_1014333.jpg

Oh thats priceless. I love it.

[2495]

Spoken like a Christian

Oh dear. Oh deary me. Now look what you gone and done. You brought religion into it.

Well, as to not insult all those members of MP.net who may be Christians I am going to refrain from answering in a negative tone, because a belief is a mans belief, and thats a private matter.

All I will say is that who I pray to is not 'God' as a Christian, nor am I Jewish or Muslim.