View Full Version : Mexican soldiers interupt Marine's funeral.

07-07-2004, 11:12 AM
Ive been keeping up with this farce, and just saw more about it in American Patriots pics of the day.
Here is the original story that pissed me off.

Mexico Bars 21-Gun Salute To Honor U.S. Marine Killed in Iraq
POSTED: 9:21 am EDT July 2, 2004

MEXICO CITY -- U.S. Marines won't be allowed to fire a traditional gun salute at the graveside of a Mexican-American killed in Iraq, Mexican officials said Thursday, citing the country's laws against foreigners carrying firearms.

Lance Cpl. Juan Lopez, who was born in the central Mexico state of Guanajuato and resided in Dalton, Ga., was one of four U.S. Marines killed in an ambush in Ramadi, west of Baghdad, on June 21.

Lopez was born in the town of San Luis de la Paz and emigrated to the United States as a teenager. His mother and other family members stayed in Mexico.

He was assigned to 2nd Battalion of the 1st Marine Division and based at Camp Pendleton, California.

After family members elected to bury Lopez in Guanajuato, U.S. Marines made arrangements to give him a traditional 21-gun salute during the funeral ceremony, said Maj. Curt Gwilliam of the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City.

But Mexico's Secretary of Defense turned down the request, saying the salute violated constitutional measures preventing foreign soldiers from bearing arms on Mexican soil.

"The United states, to respect the sovereignty of Mexico, scaled back the firing detail," Gwilliam said, adding that six Marines now plan to attend the funeral simply as pallbearers.

And now I find that they interupted the funeral. :bash:

Associated Press

SAN LUIS DE LA PAZ, Mexico - Mexican soldiers carrying automatic weapons interrupted the Independence Day funeral of a U.S. Marine and demanded that the Marine honor guard give up ceremonial replicas of rifles they carried. The move drew an angry reaction from the U.S. Ambassador.

Hundreds of friends and relatives packed a small cemetery for the funeral on Sunday of 22-year-old Juan Lopez, who was born in this sun-scorched farming town, immigrated to Dalton, Ga., as a teenager and became a Marine.

He was killed in an ambush in Ramadi, west of Baghdad, on June 21.

Maj. Curt Gwilliam presented an American flag to Lopez's widow, Sandra Torres, who clutched a bouquet of yellow and white flowers while tears streamed down her face.

While the funeral demonstrated the close human ties of Mexico and the United States, problems began moments after the start.

Four U.S. Marines marched solemnly to the grave carrying an American flag and the colors of the Marine Corps. Two of the men had rifles that looked real, but could not be fired, strapped to their backs.

Four Mexican soldiers blocked their path, asking the four Marines and six others who had served as pallbearers to return to the car that had brought them to the funeral. Several minutes of discussions by soldiers from both countries continued until a trumpet player began a rendition of taps and the funeral proceeded, despite the objections of the Mexican troops.

When the ceremony was complete, the Marines returned to a U.S. Embassy vehicle and waited. Fourteen Mexican soldiers arrived to guard the premises. About 40 minutes later, the Mexican soldiers allowed the van to leave.

"I'm outraged that this would take away from the ceremony honoring U.S. Marine Juan Lopez Rangel, whose family requested he be buried in his town of birth with full military honors," U.S. Ambassador Tony Garza said in a statement.

Mexico has a deep suspicion of foreign military forces in its territory. The Marine Hymn's "Halls of Montezuma" refers to the 1847 U.S. capture of Mexico City.

The Mexican Defense Department banned plans for a 21-gun salute by Marines because Mexico's Constitution bans foreign soldiers from carrying firearms here.

Mexican soldiers at the funeral refused to comment, but U.S. Embassy spokesman Jim ****meyer said they likely saw the rifle replicas and mistakenly thought the Marines were planning to fire a salute anyway.

"These are ceremonial weapons," ****meyer said. "We were told not to bring M-16s, we didn't bring M-16s. We were told not to fire in the air, we didn't fire in the air."

Lopez's cousin, Octavio Lopez, called the interruption "a big mistake."

"If carrying these rifles was part of the ceremony, a ceremony the family wanted, how could it have been anything but positive?" he asked.

When U.S. Marines loaded Lopez's gray coffin onto a he**** earlier in the afternoon, a swell of local residents poured through the street and marched with the Lopez family past shabby brick homes.

A mariachi band dressed in green sang, "Goodbye for ever, goodbye." The music never stopped during a somber 45-minute march across town.

As church services began, about 300 people who could not fit inside listened over loudspeakers and sang along.

An hour later, several hundred people marched about a half mile to the ceremony to watch as Lopez's gray coffin was lowered into the ground.

Some of those who marched in Lopez's honor voiced opposition to the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

Lopez met his wife in Dalton and the couple married in December. Earlier in the day, Oscar E. Lujan, attache for U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services at the embassy in Mexico City, presented her with Lopez's American citizenship, which he earned following his death.

Does Mexico really believe that a Marine funeral detail is going to take over their ****ty country?


07-07-2004, 12:01 PM
Someone really like to follow the rules. Well well,...

07-07-2004, 12:57 PM

07-07-2004, 01:03 PM
Mexican troops interrupt funeral of U.S. Marine (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19049)

Midav posted this ..

Lt-Col A. Tack
07-07-2004, 01:19 PM
A shining example of Mexican law enforcement priorities :cantbeli:

Forget about illegal immigration and narcotics smuggling, better
disarm those marines!

Maybe next time the Mexican defense minister is in the US, we
should disarm his security detail. Just to ensure our safety, of course.

Or how about enforcing "safety checks" on all truck traffic originating
in Mexico. This was an anti-NAFTA idea of the Teamsters. Might take
an hour or two per truck.

07-07-2004, 03:51 PM
I don't four amrines with replica weapons and the "sas" in the covert bright yellow pvc coveralls and helmets with lights and wellington boots are probably more than the mexican army can deal with rofl
maybe if it was one marine with his hands tied behind his back it might be a fair fight or possibly not rofl

07-07-2004, 03:58 PM
rofl you guys make me laugh. I understand there are rules to be followed, I would assume that the Marines had arrangements made prior to the funeral. If anything why the Army? Why not the local police? Anyways, what show of power, yeah stop a funeral with the army.
RIP for the brave soldier.