Bill would Give Obama Control of Internet!

[megjur]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html

This guy is scary. If this were under the Bush Administration there wold be howls of protest, but since it's the benevolent Great Leader the ACLU and the left are quiet as bunnies. Just another cog in Obamas fascist machine. I like the part in the bill where he gets to decide what consitutes a security threat..

[RoyB]

I'm not exactly an Obama fan nor an American citizen, but for crying out loud.. fascist?

[Mofreaka]

4chan would probably declare war on America, and somehow cripple the defense network.

[CG51]

There are quite a few Presidential Emergency powers that have been made law over the years. This is just keeping up with technology.



I. Powers over Persons:

A. Confine any individual deemed a threat to national security; B. Restrict travel to or from U. S.;

C. Restrict access to U.S. citizenship;

D. Restrict movement of individuals within and over the U.S.;

E. Require certain individuals to register with the government

F. Restrict freedom of association;

- 1. prevent individuals deemed a threat to national security from certain employment opportunities;

- 2. remove federal employees deemed threat to national security;

G. Suspend Habeas Corpus; H. Declare martial law;

I. assign armed forces "to assist in military mattes in any foreign country."

II. Powers over the Control and Regulation of Property:

A. Order the stockpiling of certain strategic materials; B. Impose restrictions on the export of U.S. goods;

C. Authorized to allocate materials in ways he thinks necessary in order to promote the national defense;

D. can require industries to give priority to government contracts and seize by any means necessary those industries that fail to comply;

E. Fix wages and prices.

III. Powers over Communication:

A. In carrying out his reporting obligations to Congress, the president may withhold information he deems damaging to the national security;

B. If he concludes that the nation is under threat of attack, he may refrain from publishing his regulations in the Federal Register;

C. During war or threat of war he may establish procedures for censoring mail, cable, radio, or other means of communication between the U.S. and any foreign country;

D. Can require those engaging in propaganda activities on behalf of foreign governments to register with the U.S. government.

IV. Termination of Existing National Emergencies:

A. Terminates two years from the date of enactment of this act emergency powers and authorities possessed by the president or any other federal officer or executive agency that were still in effect as a result of previously declared emergencies.

V. Declaration and Termination of Future National Emergencies:

A. All future national emergencies declared by the president can be terminated by Congress through a concurrent resolution« « or by presidential proclamation

B. Not later than six months after an emergency has been declared, and not later than the end of each six-mont period thereafter, Congress shall be required to consider whether the emergency shall be terminated;

C. If the president has declared a national emergency, and if it has not been terminated at the end of one year unless the president informs Congress that it is sill in effect.

VI. Procedures Relating to the Use of Emergency Powers:

A. Then the president declares a national emergency, he must specify to Congress the provisions of the law under which he will act;

B. The president and all federal agencies shall keep and report to Congress a record of all rules and regulations issued during the emergency. The same applies to all expenditures for emergency actions. http://spot.colorado.edu/~mcguire/emergency.html (http://spot.colorado.edu/%7Emcguire/emergency.html)

[RxOnco]

Barry isn't exactly on my Christmas card list, but even I don't buy into the whole slippery slope interpretation of this one.

[2495]

hahahaha thats funny as fvck.

Obama wants Federal licensed people to run PC security? hahahahaha thats just so freaking sweet! I bet the chinese are all for this, because Federal computers are as well defended and secure as the Rio Grande.

One lone UK lad can walk in and poke around at will because the federal security was so poor and get all manner of juicy secrets, imagine what the Chinese and others could do... Oh Obama, you really are a retard.

[budgie]

Anyone who buys into this 'control the internet' drivel is a retard. It's simply not possible. All governments can do - as in this case - is try to impose some regulation and protection but they know that at best it will always be a losing battle.

Fascists controlling the internet? puhleeeze....

[BigDukaroo]

You can't control the internet. The Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes.

[CG51]

You can't control the internet. The Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes.

China seems to do a fairly good job.

[Dominique]

China seems to do a fairly good job.

China tries to control internet access, and is struggling to keep up.

[the_13th_redneck]

Yeah it's actually not that earth shattering. It's just an internet version of disconnecting your phone.

[deagle]

if it protects us, fine.

can we even trust private sector anymore ? some crazy execs are up to no good.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Quite simply it scares the hell out of them because some /b/ tard with his internet buddies can take down the government of Iran's website and replace it with pedo-bear pictures instead. Any attempts to deprive them of keyboard cat and lol cats will be dangerous to say the least. The retaliation from such attempts will be how-ever very very funny!

Lets not forget, whatever they will put in place will probably be useless and have virtually no effect....because the internet is not an appliance you can just turn off.

[Johnnyringo]

Grab your guns and go to your nearest town hall meeting!!!! Scream stuff about Nazi's and Hitler, and then boo and hiss at all your socialist representatives...

God damn fascists taking over your rights... it's a shame... if only we had the Patriot Act to protect us...

[EatenByRats]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html

This guy is scary. If this were under the Bush Administration there wold be howls of protest, but since it's the benevolent Great Leader the ACLU and the left are quiet as bunnies. Just another cog in Obamas fascist machine. I like the part in the bill where he gets to decide what consitutes a security threat..


Hey, next time we have a KKK meetup at the trailer park, can ya'll bring my sheet over? I left it on the stack of Bud cans.

[BorisBC]

so he's a liberal and a fascist. What's he gonna be next? A gun-toting, latte-sipping, redneck fag?

hehehe epic fail, noob.

[avedis]

As long as **** is not blocked like most if not all middle eastern countries... we have nothing to fear people. We all know **** is the backbone of the internets.

[kitatatsumi]

...Another cog in Obama's fascist machine.....

....thats a good one.

[megjur]

Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/Single-party_state).[7] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-6)Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement.[8].[9] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-books.google.com-8) In the economic sphere, many fascist leaders have claimed to support a "Third Way (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/Third_Way)" in economic policy, which they believed superior to both the rampant individualism (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/Individualism) of unrestrained capitalism (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/Laissez-faire) and the severe control of state communism (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/State_communism).[10] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-9)[11] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-10) This was to be achieved by establishing significant government control over business and labour (Mussolini called his nation's system "the corporate state").[12] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-11)[13] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-12) No common and concise definition exists for fascism and historians and political scientists disagree on what should be in any concise definition.[14] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-13)

Does any of that sound remotely familiar? Fascism is not just Nazi's and brown shirts folks. Read "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg

[BorisBC]

Absolutely none of that sounds anything remotely like the Dems (or the Republicans for that matter), and nothing even close at all to what was in that news item. If anything, it's a good thing as it brings important infastructure under the correct control in times of emergency, and shows the internet isn't just a ****-delivery vehicle.

[BMUS]

Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/Single-party_state).[7] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-6)Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement.[8].[9] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-books.google.com-8) In the economic sphere, many fascist leaders have claimed to support a "Third Way (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/Third_Way)" in economic policy, which they believed superior to both the rampant individualism (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/Individualism) of unrestrained capitalism (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/Laissez-faire) and the severe control of state communism (http://www.militaryphotos.net/wiki/State_communism).[10] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-9)[11] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-10) This was to be achieved by establishing significant government control over business and labour (Mussolini called his nation's system "the corporate state").[12] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-11)[13] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-12) No common and concise definition exists for fascism and historians and political scientists disagree on what should be in any concise definition.[14] (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/#cite_note-13)

Does any of that sound remotely familiar? Fascism is not just Nazi's and brown shirts folks. Read "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e221/Stortstrom/tinfoil4az.jpg

[shocker1]

I read the bill, nothing evil in this one but more unnecessary bureaucracy. The internet is wide open to Legal government control so please direct your dissent to more obvious violations of the Constitution. Like the Patriot Act or HR2454 Clean Energy Act or HR3200 Healthcare. Then post facts you have issue with in the bills and watch the partisans ignore or attack your post.

[megjur]

Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement...E-mail the White House with the names of those who you think oppose the health care bill

This was to be achieved by establishing significant government control over business and labour......Cap n Trade....government buying out banks, government ownership of auto companies

From Eion O'Duffy..Irish fascist comes the following:

We must lead the people always; nationally, socially and economically. We must clear up the economic mess and right the glaring social injustices of to-day by the corporative organization of Irish life;

And this tennant of fascism should also sound familiar...GM and the banks for example

Fascist governments exercised influence over the economy differently than that of communist-led states, in that individual private property was controlled but not nationalized

and

Fascists thought that private property should be regulated to ensure that "benefit to the community precedes benefit to the individual."[ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#cite_note-157)

Now can your visceral notions of fascism as jack booted Nazis and look at the system. Most on the far right like to call Obama a socialist...however, his policies are actually more in line with fascism.

[Kaplanr]

Hey, next we have a KKK meetup at the trailer park, can you bring my sheet over? I left it on the stack of Bud Lite cans.

Poser. Everyone knows it wouldn't be Lite. ;)

[SOG]

Emergency control of the internet? That's it? Eh, whatever. I agree little leftist pudding pops would be bitching about this during Bush's reign like no tomorrow. I'm not going to stoop to their bitch ass level.

Quite frankly this emergency act makes sense to me so I don't care. We don't need enemies in time of war whether it be digital or physical playing hockey with our networks. If America's **** stream is cut off by another countries actions just start handing out guns to millions of flaccid Americans and a map location. Problem solved. Wait, what am I thinking, hand out guns, this is America, we would just need a map location. Preferably warm and tropical.

[Aerosoul]

if it protects us, fine.

can we even trust private sector anymore ? some crazy execs are up to no good.
The private sector has good motive to keep their consumer base happy. If they don't, they lose business.

And this whole "If it protects us, fine" attitude still baffles me.

[Dominique]

I'm not sweating it as long as they don't touch my ****. ;)

[chauncy republicans]

What are you going to do when they enforce a LGBT affirmative action based casting system on it?

SPQA

[budgie]

4 years from now the internet will be just as free and open if not more so. There's really nothing anyone can do to control it anymore. Kinda like in the terminator films...

[Dominique]

What are you going to do when they enforce a LGBT affirmative action based casting system on it?

SPQA

What, ****, or the internet?

[chauncy republicans]

****o.

SPQA

[CG51]

4 years from now the internet will be just as free and open if not more so. There's really nothing anyone can do to control it anymore. Kinda like in the terminator films...

But with more taxation. Government got wise to us traders and wants a cut of the pie.

[LineDoggie]

Hey, next time we have a KKK meetup at the trailer park, can ya'll bring my sheet over? I left it on the stack of Bud cans.
You really want to go around inferring posters are Klan Members sparky?