taliban beheading people

[commanding]

just watched maybe 4 minutes or so of video of taliban beheading at least three people whose hands were bound behind their back, one after another. They did it with about as much compassion as I would when I cut the head off a catfish for the table. There was little time between the beheadings one two and three. I must say, that it was one of the most disgusting things I have seen. I know war is horrible, and people die and die in bad ways. But this was to me, beyond the pale.

What is amazing, is these taliban people, do this in the name of religion. It is nothing but terrorist tactics if you ask me. I remember seeing similar videos from the Soviet-Afghan war where the Mujahadeen were doing the same thing to captured Soviet soliders next to a Soviet vehicle they had disabled. it disgusted me then and it disgusts me now.

When I think of the order to close down GITMO and move those detainees, or release them, my blood runs cold.

[Insane Tadpole]

Why would you watch such videos in the first place?

[2495]

Why would you watch such videos in the first place?

Know your enemy.


If you know they are sadistic fvckers who use a very blunt knife to behead captured prisoners, your not going to go down without one hell of a fight and a 'last grenade for me, just in case' are you?

Bosnian conflict was the same - Muj beheaded prisoners and videoed it. Sick fvckers the lot of them.

[hulaku]

Why would you watch such videos in the first place?

x2

I saw the Daniel Pearl video and decided I didnt want to see these anymore.

May the barbarians who do this in the name of their religion burn in the deepest depths of hell.

[Evolv5]

just watched maybe 4 minutes or so of video of taliban beheading at least three people whose hands were bound behind their back, one after another. They did it with about as much compassion as I would when I cut the head off a catfish for the table. There was little time between the beheadings one two and three. I must say, that it was one of the most disgusting things I have seen. I know war is horrible, and people die and die in bad ways. But this was to me, beyond the pale.

What is amazing, is these taliban people, do this in the name of religion. It is nothing but terrorist tactics if you ask me. I remember seeing similar videos from the Soviet-Afghan war where the Mujahadeen were doing the same thing to captured Soviet soliders next to a Soviet vehicle they had disabled. it disgusted me then and it disgusts me now.

When I think of the order to close down GITMO and move those detainees, or release them, my blood runs cold.
It's difficult isn't it. All you want to do is behead the perpetrators, but then you wouldn't be any better than them.

Beheadings are a reality of this conflict. War shouldn't be romanticized.

[Jµµso]

What is amazing, is these taliban people, do this in the name of religion. It is nothing but terrorist tactics if you ask me..


Here is answer to your question.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/SKM40715.htm

[commanding]

x2

I saw the Daniel Pearl video and decided I didnt want to see these anymore.

May the barbarians who do this in the name of their religion burn in the deepest depths of hell.
I never saw the Daniel Pearl video, I kind of avoided it. I think this was the first one I had seen since that one in the Soviet-Afghan war vid.
Sickening. Disgusting that people would do such in the name of religion.
Disgusting that people could do this and still consider themselves to be human, and sleep at night. I mean, even when the Japanese army soldiers beheaded people in WWII, they did it with a sword in one clean chop, these guys just saw off the heads slowly with a dull knife.

[brainplay]

Beheadings are a reality of this conflict. War shouldn't be romanticized.

Neither should those murdering perpetrators. :fork: Nor should be apathetic and accepting of those crimes.

[commanding]

I mean I don't know, but I would have to assume that the three poor men, who had their hands tied behind their backs, and were beheaded, were either non-combatents, or if they were combatents, they had laid down their weapons and surrendered, only to be brutally killed. The whole thing reminds me of the 9/11 hijackers, who slit the throats of the civilian unarmed pilots in the airliners (with knives or box cutters). These are the people (and I use the term loosely) that we are up against.
(the beheaded men appeared to be arabs, or non americans, perhaps Pakistani)

[vinny_121_ND]

It's so gross that human rights watch don't even talk about it, but have the time and energy to talk about how Gitmo should be shut down.

[commanding]

It's so gross that human rights watch don't even talk about it, but have the time and energy to talk about how Gitmo should be shut down.
Yes, and the Gitmo facility is so superior to even US prisons, that it is unreal. I have read books on the GITMO facility and watched documentaries on the way things run there. The "inmates" or detainees cover themselves in feces, when they are on hunger strikes, so that when the US soliders must remove them from their cells to force feed, they are in danger of being scratched by the detainee fingernails which have feces under their nails, not to mention the disgusting task of handling the feces covered human.

They taunt the guards, complaining how the US claims to be a land of justice but they feel mistreated due to their being confined in a cell (after having been caught on the battlefield fighting against allied forces).

[futurepilot2004]

It's so gross that human rights watch don't even talk about it, but have the time and energy to talk about how Gitmo should be shut down.

really? 5 seconds on their site and you can find lots of reports like this one:
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2005/10/02/iraq-insurgent-groups-responsible-war-crimes

[Connaught Ranger]

Yes, and the Gitmo facility is so superior to even US prisons, that it is unreal. I have read books on the GITMO facility and watched documentaries on the way things run there. The "inmates" or detainees cover themselves in feces, when they are on hunger strikes, so that when the US soliders must remove them from their cells to force feed, they are in danger of being scratched by the detainee fingernails which have feces under their nails, not to mention the disgusting task of handling the feces covered human.


They taunt the guards, complaining how the US claims to be a land of justice but they feel mistreated due to their being confined in a cell (after having been caught on the battlefield fighting against allied forces).


The use of feces was a common IRA Tactics from the Maze Prison during the dirty Protests, aka on the blanket.

[tea drinker]

Religion is not the problem here, stone age mentality is. Religion is just the vehicle they use to transport and package that hate and discrimination. It's convenience.
Nothing compares to religion for massive reach, and relevance.

Pick any politician, singer actor, many of them have mass appeal, but are irrelevant. The vehicle has to be religous to get your message out. The fact that they drive a particular car doesn't mean they belive in it!

No, your dealing with sick people who are as religous as pigs.

[Redbeard]

just watched maybe 4 minutes or so of video of taliban beheading at least three people whose hands were bound behind their back, one after another. They did it with about as much compassion as I would when I cut the head off a catfish for the table.

What is amazing, is these taliban people, do this in the name of religion. It is nothing but terrorist tactics if you ask me. I remember seeing similar videos from the Soviet-Afghan war where the Mujahadeen were doing the same thing to captured Soviet soliders next to a Soviet vehicle they had disabled. it disgusted me then and it disgusts me now.

When I think of the order to close down GITMO and move those detainees, or release them, my blood runs cold.

This is no sole province of taliban. Everywhere where there is a radical islamic movement you get that ****. You had that in Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya... I've read about such stuff to many times in the last 15 or so years, I'm not even phased when I stumble on some of that ****.

[Al-Bundy]

This is no sole province of taliban. Everywhere where there is a radical islamic movement you get that ****. You had that in Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya... I've read about such stuff to many times in the last 15 or so years, I'm not even phased when I stumble on some of that ****.

Bosnia. Yes by Arabs
Chechnya. Yes
Kosovo. NO

[sheytanelkebir]

beheading is the "trademark" of the wahabis. wherever they rear their ugly head, you find "beheadings. If I may add to the list countries that are a lot worse than the bosnian examples:

-ALgerian civil war
-Iraq 2003-2009

in both instances beheading was the trademark of the wahabis/salafis.

[Mordoror]

beheading is the "trademark" of the wahabis. wherever they rear their ugly head, you find "beheadings. If I may add to the list countries that are a lot worse than the bosnian examples:
not at all
or not only in fact

culturally beheading was present in manny societies through the ages
some examples : England beheaded their criminals (with an axe for the nobles and a sword for royal relatives if i remember correctly, average joe were hanged)

France is well known for its famous guillotine
You still can find tribes where recently beheading of an ennemy was usual (the Dayaks, the Nagas in Dekkan, some south america tribes)
on the contrary you seldom find large scale beheading in Africa even if the machettes are a weapon of choice
The japanese beheaded their prisonners during WWII but it is otherwise seldomly seen in Eastern Asia

of course the meaning are different
for the Dayaks it was a way to gain the strengh of the vanquished ennemy

for the Japanese it was a way to dispose of an inferior ennemy

as in Islam beheading is usually reserved to the worst criminals (murderer, rapists but also apostate) the meaning of these actions are clear
the people to be beheaded, for the perpetrators being talibans, bosniac jihadists or chechen jihadists, are scum and the lower class of humanity and do not deserve to be treated with honor

[Scythian]

Western allies such as the Saudi Kingdom and other Arab states loyal to the West also use beheading for executions and as said before it has been used for centuries probably as old as man as a form of execution.

[RIPTIDE]

Western allies such as the Saudi Kingdom and other Arab states loyal to the West also use beheading for executions and as said before it has been used for centuries probably as old as man as a form of execution.
Theres a difference. We are talking about Extra Judicial executions. And very often executions of civilians for no wrong doing. Hostages beheaded etc.

[VAMAN]

just watched maybe 4 minutes or so of video of taliban beheading at least three people whose hands were bound behind their back, one after another.
They were doing Halal beheading or Jhatka beheading? :roll:

[hulaku]

They were doing Halal beheading or Jhatka beheading? :roll:

They always do Halal. Sadistic b*st*rds

[Connaught Ranger]

They were doing Halal beheadings or Jhatka beheadings? :roll:

Are you trying to be funny, with regards this topic?

[VAMAN]

Are you trying to be funny, with regards this topic?
Sarcasm my friend if you could understand the meaning of Halal and Jhatka.

[commanding]

They were doing Halal beheading or Jhatka beheading? :roll:
well, I had never heard of either of those terms, but after googling and finding the rough definitions..I would say the Halal? as they cut the jugular and front of the neck with a sawing motion and worked their way to the back of the neck and spinebones, sawing thru them, in the same manner I would cut thru a thick rope with my large Buck knife.

If I had to die by beheading, give me the French guillotine, or the beheading by a quick axe or sword, but not the way those guys do it, which was slow, brutal and without any emotion.

Know your enemy.

[pg_ord]

Why would anybody want to watch these "festivities" ?...... only thing I would like to watch is a bunch of JDAMs up taliban's ass.

[Stormz_STA]

Halal and Jhatka.

Are those two different methods of beheading animals?

[Connaught Ranger]

Sarcasm my friend if you could understand the meaning of Halal and Jhatka.

I do not see any reason to be sarcastic with regards this subject, I am sure too the victims families, the method used to butcher their loved ones matters very little.

Connaught Ranger.

[Skutatos]

just watched maybe 4 minutes or so of video of taliban beheading at least three people whose hands were bound behind their back, one after another. They did it with about as much compassion as I would when I cut the head off a catfish for the table. There was little time between the beheadings one two and three. I must say, that it was one of the most disgusting things I have seen. I know war is horrible, and people die and die in bad ways. But this was to me, beyond the pale.

What is amazing, is these taliban people, do this in the name of religion. It is nothing but terrorist tactics if you ask me. I remember seeing similar videos from the Soviet-Afghan war where the Mujahadeen were doing the same thing to captured Soviet soliders next to a Soviet vehicle they had disabled. it disgusted me then and it disgusts me now.

When I think of the order to close down GITMO and move those detainees, or release them, my blood runs cold.

Ever seen photos of what the Sioux and Cheyenne did to people, or the Japanese, or the Moros? They all had different excuses...religion isn't the cause, its the excuse. The cause is that they are bunch of ****ing mental invalids with severe mommy issues suffering from ****** repression and terrible education.

[hulaku]

Are those two different methods of beheading animals?

Spot on.

Meat shops in Northern India especially sell two kinds of meats ie Halal which is the Islamic way of slowly cutting through the neck and the other is Jhatka where the head is severed in one quick blow like a guillotine. The Sikhs/ Hindus prefer their meat to be Jhatka.

[ebk187]

They also strap IEDs to people, and detonate them while their captives are still blindfolded

[pg_ord]

Are those two different methods of beheading animals?
Yup..... Halal I presume you already know. ;)
Jhatka is followed by Non-Veg Hindus. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jhatka

[Connaught Ranger]

Ever seen photos of what the Sioux and Cheyenne did to people, or the Japanese, or the Moros? They all had different excuses...religion isn't the cause, its the excuse. The cause is that they are bunch of ****ing mental invalids with severe mommy issues suffering from ****** repression and terrible education.

In all fairness, the native Indian Tribes of the Americas, were in different time and place, (and who actually learned the art of scalping from white trappers, when blood money was offered for native Indian scalps,) and bear no relation to the Taliban.

The Japanese when beheading used a swift sword stroke usually across the back of the neck.

Your cause theory is flawed as well, the sole point of this slaughter is for the sake of terror.

Connaught Ranger

[pg_ord]

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Your cause theory is flawed as well, the sole point of this slaughter is for the sake of terror.
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x2 good point.

[Cataphract_Persia]

Western allies such as the Saudi Kingdom and other Arab states loyal to the West also use beheading for executions and as said before it has been used for centuries probably as old as man as a form of execution.

beheading was actualy done in europe untill early years of 1980, later in Balkan Wars beheading came again a spread execution method.

"The guillotine remained the official method of execution in France until France abolished the death penalty in 1981"

but im against any kind of executions(death panelty)

beheading is one of most barbaric execution methods...

if i could chose which way i wanted to be executed i would chose the shooting squad (soldiers death)

[Connaught Ranger]

Gentlemen,

your posts with regards the methods to kill animals in a thread about
human beings being slaughtered is quite out of order, please refrain from trying to make any connection to Religious practices with animals and the method of murder to kill innocent people.

Connaught Ranger.

[VAMAN]

well, I had never heard of either of those terms, but after googling and finding the rough definitions..I would say the Halal? as they cut the jugular and front of the neck with a sawing motion and worked their way to the back of the neck and spinebones, sawing thru them, in the same manner I would cut thru a thick rope with my large Buck knife.

If I had to die by beheading, give me the French guillotine, or the beheading by a quick axe or sword, but not the way those guys do it, which was slow, brutal and without any emotion.

Know your enemy.
Oh that's gruesome if they were doing Halal in that video. I came across a few videos of them doing that to captured Russian soldiers in Afghanistan. That's serious trauma.

[Skutatos]

In all fairness, the native Indian Tribes of the Americas, were in different time and place, (and who actually learned the art of scalping from white trappers, when blood money was offered for native Indian scalps,) and bear no relation to the Taliban.

The Japanese when beheading used a swift sword stroke usually across the back of the neck.

Your cause theory is flawed as well, the sole point of this slaughter is for the sake of terror.

Connaught Ranger

Im not talking scalping...it got much much worse than that. Now granted, native elders did try to ban the mutilation because they knew in order to get respect from the soldiers they must give respect, but the younger hotheads never listened.

The Japanese did things like cut off the genitals of our dead/dying soldiers and marines and shove them in their mouths. They also did such wonderful things as using live people for bayonet practice and in one instance massacred 57,000 chinese POWs along the yangtze river, took over an hour to shoot them all. They then went around afterwards and impaled anyone still breathing.

I know the reason behind the slaughter is terror but I was more referring to how they ended up in that mindset in the first place.

[hulaku]

Gentlemen,

your posts with regards the methods to kill animals in a thread about
human beings being slaughtered is quite out of order, please refrain from trying to make any connection to Religious practices with animals and the method of murder to kill innocent people.

Connaught Ranger.

Point taken sir.

[Mordoror]

beheading was actualy done in europe untill early years of 1980, later in Balkan Wars beheading came again a spread execution method.

"The guillotine remained the official method of execution in France until France abolished the death penalty in 1981"

but im against any kind of executions(death panelty)

beheading is one of most barbaric execution methods...

if i could chose which way i wanted to be executed i would chose the shooting squad (soldiers death)
well the purpose of the guillotine or any public executions (or torturing for what matters) was also to "educate" people

no wonder why they were called public (with women and children witnesses) executions

i guess that with the internet media access, it is unfortunately also a part of the aim of that kind of behaviour among the Taleb/Jihadists nowadays

[Connaught Ranger]

Im not talking scalping...it got much much worse than that. Now granted, native elders did try to ban the mutilation because they knew in order to get respect from the soldiers they must give respect, but the younger hotheads never listened.

The Japanese did things like cut off the genitals of our dead/dying soldiers and marines and shove them in their mouths. They also did such wonderful things as using live people for bayonet practice and in one instance massacred 57,000 chinese POWs along the yangtze river, took over an hour to shoot them all. They then went around afterwards and impaled anyone still breathing.

I know the reason behind the slaughter is terror but I was more referring to how they ended up in that mindset in the first place.

Most Indian Tribes when on the war path went all out, torture was a common theme in their warfare, so was counting coup, however the Indian learned to retaliate against the actions of the whites who often shot them out of hand, very few Red Indians were awarded the status of prisoner and frequently suffered torture at the hands of their captors, whites, or at the hands of their native enemies in the pay of the whites.

The Japanese record of torture and humiliation and slow death of their enemies and prisoners is well recorded, (they too like the American Indian had long exposures to warfare with the blade and arrow, and were fairly late in getting into the swing of things with fire-power, unlike their European and American counter-parts.)

It is more than likely related to their military heritage pre 1900 which allowed them to commit such acts with impunity, especially the massacre of civilians young and old, by the bayonet, live burial, machine-gun, rifle and sword etc..etc..

However the Taliban did not learn anything from the past periods of other cultures, their own culture being steeped long in tradition of the strongest rules, warlords and banditry a swift and brutal retribution.

The televised beheading of their prisoners is a cold, calculated act devised to bring terror into the hearts of those who see it.

Lets not forget in their minds, there is to be no compassion given to those who spurn their ideas of a full acceptance, of their own perverted beliefs in Islam.

Connaught Ranger.

[Redbeard]

Bosnia. Yes by Arabs
Chechnya. Yes
Kosovo. NO

OK, you're right about Kosovo. But in Bosnia, beheadings were not done just by mujahedins, there were a lot of mixed muslim units, and where radicals were involved beheadings were a common practice of all the member units, be they Arabs, Afghani, local Bosnians, Albanians, etc.

[Mordoror]

Most Indian Tribes when on the war path went all out, torture was a common theme in their warfare, so was counting coup, however the Indian learned to retaliate against the actions of the whites who often shot them out of hand, very few Red Indians were awarded the status of prisoner and frequently suffered torture at the hands of their captors, whites, or at the hands of their native enemies in the pay of the whites.

The Japanese record of torture and humiliation and slow death of their enemies and prisoners is well recorded, (they too like the American Indian had long exposures to warfare with the blade and arrow, and were fairly late in getting into the swing of things with fire-power, unlike their European and American counter-parts.)

It is more than likely related to their military heritage pre 1900 which allowed them to commit such acts with impunity, especially the massacre of civilians young and old, by the bayonet, live burial, machine-gun, rifle and sword etc..etc..

However the Taliban did not learn anything from the past periods of other cultures, their own culture being steeped long in tradition of the strongest rules, warlords and banditry a swift and brutal retribution.

The televised beheading of their prisoners is a cold, calculated act devised to bring terror into the hearts of those who see it.

Lets not forget in their minds, there is to be no compassion given to those who spurn their ideas of a full acceptance, of their own perverted beliefs in Islam.

Connaught Ranger.

100 % agree

let's not forget that the Pathan are the same tribe during the Anglo-Astan war than the actual Pasthuns that form the bulk of the Taliban
they weren't nice and soft with their prisoners, they still are not actually


When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains

just remember that poem of Kipling

no wonder why the soldiers were told to keep their last bullet for themselves
and actually the beheading is not the most horrible way to kill their ennemies
(ask the soviet chopper pilots about the "Afghan shirt" .... you'll be disgusted...)

[Grunt1983]

More Proof that scum should be wiped from the face of the Earth

[Dexx]

Unfortunately, that is the way the Afghan behave even against themselves. One of my best buddies is from Afghanistan and told me that one of his cousins fought with Masud against the Talibs (Nothern Alliance). It was common practice for each side to torture prisoners or hang them on trees with chopped body parts and skinned bodies to scare the other side away. Afghans are brutal. That is a complete different society. If you go there with your Western morals you are lost. Thus I don't think it has so much to do with Islamism but Afghan culture itself that is still rooted in the 18th century.