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hist2004
07-09-2004, 10:53 AM
Senate Report Focuses on Iraq Intel Failures

Friday, July 09, 2004

By Liza Porteus

WASHINGTON — The Senate Select Intelligence Committee on Friday released a much-anticipated report, blaming the U.S. intelligence community for overstating the threat Saddam Hussein posed to the United States and for using less-than-100 percent credible information to justify the war in Iraq.

Panel Chairman Pat Roberts (search), R-Kan., and Vice Chairman Jay Rockefeller (search), D-W.Va., released the 400-page report to the public around 10:30 a.m. EDT.

"Before the war, the U.S. intelligence community told the president, as well as the Congress and the public, that Saddam Hussein had stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and if left unchecked, probably would have a nuclear weapon this decade," Roberts said during the press conference. "Well, today we know these assessments were wrong."

The report says U.S. intelligence analysts remained objective, but got careless, which may have led them to overestimate the threat Iraq posed to the United States, officials said. It will also say U.S. officials relied too much on intelligence information from Iraqi dissidents and exiles who may have had their own agenda and didn't penetrate Saddam Hussein's inner circle effectively enough.

Roberts this week said the report describes a fatal intelligence failure and has said it "literally begs for changes within the intelligence community. What we had was a worldwide intelligence failure."


"You'll be astounded by the mistakes of the CIA," Michigan Sen. Carl Levin (search), a member of the intelligence committee and ranking Democrat on Senate Armed Services Committee, told reporters Thursday.

The report will be "full of ineptitude" and failures on the part of the CIA, Levin told FOX News this week. "It's obvious there were exaggerations by the CIA and failures of the CIA" when it came to Iraq and intelligence surrounding why the United States used military force to oust Saddam Hussein, Levin added. The Michigan senator has been a vocal critic of the Bush administration's actions in Iraq.

But the committee will conclude that intelligence analysts were not pressured to change or tailor their views to support arguments for the invasion of Iraq, congressional and other officials said.

"I think it's important to know that the intelligence they gave was under their judgment - the right perception," Sen. John Corzine, D-N.J., told FOX News on Friday shortly before the report was released.

Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., said intelligence officers are trained to be "above political pressure" anyway.

"They're trained as part of their tradition to state the facts, to bring the evidence, to bring the truth to the president who's the ultimate user of intelligence," Shelby said. "Whatever environment you might be in, if it's one where there might be hostilities, it's up to the intelligence community to still stay with the facts and nothing else."

It's information like that regarding the now infamous yellowcake that Iraq allegedly bought from Niger that got into President Bush's State of the Union speech after Tenet specifically said not to that was improperly used, Corzine said.

"There are still some questions about whether there was proper use of intelligence that was available in the runup to the war … even if there wasn't pressure," he added.

Outgoing CIA Director George Tenet (search) has always maintained that his agents came to conclusions on their own accord without any outside pressure.

"No one told us what to say or how to say it," he said in a speech in February.

Democratic aides say senators will make arguments about the issue of intelligence exaggeration in "alternative views" that will be attached to the report. They will also argue for continued investigation.

One U.S. official said the report doesn't charge the CIA with losing objectivity but accuses its analysts of not being rigorous or careful in their intelligence assessments.

Levin told FOX News there are reports that Iraqi scientists passed on information that Saddam, in fact, didn't have such weapons but the CIA didn't find those reports "credible." There's also information that may have been misconstrued regarding aluminum tubes (search) thought to be used in making nuclear weapons in Iraq, as well as alleged mobile biological weapons labs (search), Levin added.

The CIA field officers who found the aluminum tubes in question said they were for uranium enrichment but later it was discovered they weren't the right size and instead were used for regular rockets.

But "perhaps the major issue that's going to arise is one that's still very much in the news … collaboration between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein," Levin said.

Vice President **** Cheney is the most ardent supporter of a connection between Iraq and Usama bin Laden's terror network. The independent commission probing the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, recently concluded that there was no connection between Iraq and the attacks but didn't rule out a general Iraq-Al Qaeda connection.

Another key portion of the report is the process by which the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate - which concluded that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction - was drafted.

Some observers said the report doesn't exactly bode well for Bush but won't serve as his death knell, either.

"I don't think it gives him any political cover at all …this report didn't even profess to have looked at the White House end of the situation," former CIA Director Stanfield Turner told FOX News, adding that other upcoming reports probe the White House's influences on intelligence even more.

Riding the 'Assumption Train'

The Iraqi National Congress and its leader, Ahmad Chalabi, are also expected to be part of the report.

The FBI has been examining whether Pentagon officials who had frequent contacts with the Iraqi exile may have leaked sensitive information that American intelligence had broken Iran's secret communications codes.

The committee concluded that intelligence agencies around the world engineered an "assumption train" that led to the belief that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction before the war.

The Kansas senator said various Iraqi military officials said there was evidence that other Iraqi officials controlled enough weapons of mass destruction to transform Iraq into the "Grand Central Station" of a trade in such weapons.

The committee found that intelligence agencies did not rely enough on "human intelligence" gathering after 1998. And after the Sept. 11 terror attacks, he said, intelligence agencies were more likely to base conclusions on incomplete information because they were worried about more attacks.

"What we had was a worldwide intelligence failure," Roberts said.

CIA and other officials have repeatedly said they didn't have enough human intelligence sources on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan before the wars in those countries. Tenet has maintained that in the past two years, those resources have been dramatically boosted.

Friday's Senate report is just one of a myriad of investigations under way into the intelligence community's performance surrounding the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, Iraq and Al Qaeda.

Tenet, who is officially leaving the agency on Sunday, has been director of central intelligence for nine years. Poised to take over as acting director is his deputy, John McLaughlin, 61.

In a farewell address to CIA workers Thursday, Tenet defended the CIA's performance, saying the American people will weigh its record and said, "this much is clear right now: Your work is far too important for distractions."

Tenet said Theodore Roosevelt was "exactly right" when he said: "It is not the critic who counts, nor the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Regards,
Hist2004

Spearin
07-09-2004, 11:35 AM
That doesn't come with any surprise :roll: The surprise is that they admitted it...

MEGR
07-09-2004, 12:15 PM
The CIA definately needs a fixing.. They were once a top notch agency.. WTF happened?

Tane Angle
07-09-2004, 12:25 PM
We've been gutting our HUMINT for the past 30 years or so. Not real good. :|

Per dollar, satellites and aircraft get more bang for the buck than humans inside. It's all about the money, and being willing to work with shady characters or do shady things. :|

It takes time for HUMINT to work though. It takes years and years to recruit and train good case officers; they don't grow on trees. Once we have those case officers in the field, they need to be guided by an old hat for a while. It takes time to choose a source to target. It takes more time for background checks, searching for something that will get them to work for us. Developing and cultivating a source can take years. Then it takes even more time for all that work to pay off and some real results to show up. Let's check back in ten years. :|

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

hist2004
07-09-2004, 12:40 PM
Let's not forget the Senate intelligence committee..what where they doing?
Here's another article:

Congressional Oversight of Intelligence Criticized
Committee Members, Others Cite Lack of Attention to Reports on Iraqi Arms, Al Qaeda Threat

By Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 27, 2004; Page A01


In the fall of 2002, as Congress debated waging war in Iraq, copies of a 92-page assessment of Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction sat in two vaults on Capitol Hill, each protected by armed security guards and available to any member who showed up in person, without staff.

But only a few ever did. No more than six senators and a handful of House members read beyond the five-page National Intelligence Estimate executive summary, according to several congressional aides responsible for safeguarding the classified material.

The lack of congressional attention to the nitty-gritty details of Iraq's weapons programs is symptomatic of Congress's approach to a range of intelligence matters, according to current and former intelligence committee members and a broad swath of intelligence experts.

Responsibility for congressional oversight is vested in the House and Senate select committees on intelligence, which get daily classified reports from the intelligence agencies and annually review and approve the intelligence budget. But as described by former members and outside experts, the committees' performance in oversight and investigations has deteriorated.

"The oversight is still by and large feckless and episodic," said Loch Johnson, a University of Georgia professor who has written extensively on the subject. "September 11 was an intelligence failure, but it's also a policy failure, not only in the White House but in Congress. There's really a heavy onus on these intelligence committees to probe what's going on."

The committees' role in oversight and investigations "has almost gone away," said former representative Timothy J. Roemer (D-Ind.), a committee member for three years and now a member of the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. "You're so busy with the budget and keeping up with daily events."

Iraq is not the only major issue on which experts say the intelligence committees fumbled: The CIA, the FBI and the Bush administration have come under sharp criticism recently for not detecting and disrupting al Qaeda's plot against the United States. But for the past 10 years, the intelligence agencies shared considerable classified information about the growing capabilities of al Qaeda, and committee members did little to ring an alarm.

The chairmen and vice chairmen of the committees, for example, had seen and discussed five major "memorandums of notification" describing presidentially directed covert actions against al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden, according to recent testimony by CIA Director George J. Tenet. Tenet also listed bin Laden as one of the top three threats facing the United States each year since he became the director in 1997, and in classified session the agency described the threat in detail.

Had they demanded to know, the committees would have discovered that before Sept. 11, 2001, the FBI had no real idea of al Qaeda's strength within the United States, according to Sen. Bob Graham (D-Fla.) and the joint House-Senate report on the Sept. 11 attacks.

"The committee could have and should have given more attention to the emerging threat [of terrorism] and assessed how well our intelligence community was making the transition from the Cold War into the new era," said Graham, who was chairman of the Senate intelligence committee when the attacks occurred.

Committee members acknowledge in hindsight that they presided over damaging cuts in the CIA's operational budget over the past decade. They knew the details: that the intelligence community's budget had been cut every year between 1990 and 1996, and that it remained flat from 1996 to 2000. They knew the agency had been forced to cut 25 percent of its personnel and closed some stations overseas.

As Tenet told the Sept. 11 panel on April 14, "The infrastructure to recruit, train and sustain officers for our clandestine services -- the nation's human intelligence capability -- was in disarray." And, he added, "we were not hiring new analysts, emphasizing the importance of expertise or giving analysts the tools they needed."

There are other examples of Congress's lack of interest in the details of intelligence:

• Although many have criticized the president for appearing inattentive to reports on al Qaeda before Sept. 11, the Senate intelligence committee, which is given classified daily reports on terrorism and other intelligence, held only one closed-door hearing devoted to al Qaeda and bin Laden in the months before the attacks, according to congressional and administration officials. Some staff members recalled holding a second meeting; others did not.

• Forty-six senators -- none of them members of the intelligence committee -- demanded that the CIA declassify a section of the House-Senate Sept. 11 report that dealt with Saudi Arabia, saying it was crucial to the public's understanding of the terror plot. But most of the 46 senators, including the campaign's leader, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), never read the 28 pages they insisted be released. "I intentionally didn't read it because this administration plays hardball on things like this," said Schumer, who said he talked to senators who had read the 28 pages and told him it contained no real secrets. "Had I read the report and been critical, they would have accused me of leaking it the way they've done with other senators."

• The House intelligence committee believed the voluminous House-Senate report was so important that it temporarily changed its rules to allow all members of the House to read the classified report. "There weren't a lot of takers on the 9/11 report," said Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.), the committee's vice chairman. Partly, she said, this was because members' personal staffs were not given access, leaving the hard work to members themselves. "Some didn't want to do the homework," she said.

Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.) said some members with packed daily schedules are deterred simply by the prospect of trekking across Capitol grounds to the secure Hart Senate Office Building room where the Senate's classified material is kept.

"Everyone in the world wants to come to see you" in your office, he said, and having to go to the secure room is "not easy to do." Members can't take notes, there is no staff to synthesize the material, and "it's extremely dense reading," he said. "It's the Brahms of music."

The congressional intelligence panels are unusual among Capitol Hill committees. Members do not have committee staffers assigned to them, for example, so greater responsibility for oversight resides with the members, and with the committees' overworked professional staffs.

House and Senate traditions and rules also mean the panels work without the typical scrutiny by the public or interest groups. Both committees rarely hold public hearings. The business they conduct behind closed doors, even when it is not classified, cannot be discussed publicly without committee approval. Staff members have been fired for sharing information about unclassified matters with staff members of other committees.

Also, rules established after the 1975 hearings chaired by Sen. Frank Church (D-Idaho) that exposed CIA abuses overseas give unusual powers to the committees' chairmen and vice chairmen. They alone are briefed on the most sensitive covert actions, for example. To prevent members from being co-opted by the intelligence community, the commission also set eight-year term limits.

But the term limits, members and outside experts say, have significantly hobbled members' ability to develop a firm understanding of the secret world they enter, one in which even the basic acronyms are unfamiliar.

"The learning curve on this committee is the toughest of any committee I've served on," said Sen. Mike DeWine (R-Ohio), a committee member who favors lifting the term limits. "It's really technical, really tough."

Making the learning curve even steeper, DeWine said, is a culture of passive resistance within intelligence agencies. "They answer your questions, but you have to ask the right questions. What counts on the committee is experience and institutional memory," he said.

But experience levels on intelligence committees pale in comparison to the panels' closest counterparts, the armed services committees. Sen. John W. Warner (R-Va.), the former Navy secretary who is chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, has been the committee's chairman or ranking member a total of nine years and has served on the committee for 26 years. Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.), who spent most of his career on Capitol Hill, has chaired the intelligence panel for one year and is in his eighth and last year on the committee.

Sen. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.), a lawyer and vice chairman of the Armed Services Committee, has spent 25 years on that panel, the last seven as chairman or vice chairman. By contrast, Rockefeller, a former college president and Peace Corps volunteer, joined the intelligence committee 31/2 years ago and became its vice chairman 15 months ago.

"The way the intelligence business has expanded, given what we are confronted with, I'm sorry to say, but the days of a handful of people" overseeing intelligence "are gone," said Rep. Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.), chairman of the House intelligence committee and a former CIA case officer.

Goss and most other members of both committees say the term limits should be abolished, at least for some members. DeWine and others say the committees need major reworking.

"There is a general consensus among most of us," DeWine said, that "we need to restructure the intelligence committee. There's a realization of how difficult it is to really understand what's going on in the intelligence community."

Restructuring will not ease the partisanship that has recently dominated both committees as they try to wrap up nine-month reviews of the intelligence community's faulty prewar assessment that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction.

When Democratic senators demanded that the committee also scrutinize how the Bush administration publicly portrayed intelligence, the committee came up with a compromise: a second report devoted to that topic, to be published before the end of the year. At the moment, however, finishing the first report has been bogged down by party-line squabbling over how far to go in criticizing the CIA.

Meanwhile, Republicans and Democrats on the House committee have gone their separate ways entirely, with the minority and majority each working on its own report.

Roberts, chairman of the Senate committee, said the partisan finger-pointing diverts attention from solving the systemic problems facing the intelligence community.

"We're in danger now of seeing the politicization of the whole intelligence issue," Roberts said. "What really worries me is this 'gotcha' business."

Regards,
Hist2004

MEGR
07-09-2004, 12:53 PM
We've been gutting our HUMINT for the past 30 years or so. Not real good. :|

Per dollar, satellites and aircraft get more bang for the buck than humans inside. It's all about the money, and being willing to work with shady characters or do shady things. :|

It takes time for HUMINT to work though. It takes years and years to recruit and train good case officers; they don't grow on trees. Once we have those case officers in the field, they need to be guided by an old hat for a while. It takes time to choose a source to target. It takes more time for background checks, searching for something that will get them to work for us. Developing and cultivating a source can take years. Then it takes even more time for all that work to pay off and some real results to show up. Let's check back in ten years. :|

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

You got that right.. Repub or democrat, I think every administration should've kept up with intel, and given our CIA less restrictions, better funding. You especially make a good point when you talk aboot spending money on military hardware rather than good intellegence.. Remember that grand old 11 billion dollar Commanche.. What a waste.

He219
07-09-2004, 01:13 PM
Question:

Wouldn't any conclusion wrt to the intelligence and the actual disopositon of Saddam's WMD's be conjecture without final confirmation of what actually happened to them?

Does the circumstancial intelligence automatically disavow the existence of a previous Iraqi WMD program entirely to draw these conclusions?

What if a pile of proscribed WMD's are eventually found and traced back to Iraq; does that mean the intelligence was more accurate at that time?

MEGR
07-09-2004, 01:18 PM
Also a good point. I don't see any political figure asking a very important question when it comes to WMDs.. There should be a committee to find out what happened to these things..