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09-21-2009, 04:15 PM
A Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Presidency?
William Kristol William Kristol – Wed Sep 16, 11:20 am ET
Washington (The Weekly Standard) Vol. 015, Issue 01 - 9/21/2009 – The single most damning story about President Obama so far is one we know courtesy of his national security adviser, Jim Jones. Visiting the newly installed military commanders in Afghanistan in late June, Jones told General Stanley McChrystal that if he requested more troops any time soon, Obama would have a "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot" (i.e., "What the f--") moment. Jones then, in an interview, made the claim--denied by everyone else involved--that military leaders had agreed that when the president earlier sent 21,000 troops to Afghanistan, "there would be a year from the time the decision was made before they would ever come back and ask for any more."
Okay. Jones is in way over his head. And, we gather, he'll likely be gone by Christmas. But it's still a remarkable statement by the president's national security adviser. Afghanistan is a war Obama supported repeatedly as a candidate. One of his first acts as president was to recommit to success in the struggle. Yet Jones was willing to portray his boss, both privately and publicly, as timid and fearful of tough decisions.
What's worrisome is that most of Obama's senior advisers seem to be on the same page as Jones. We hear that Rahm Emanuel is counseling the president to figure out how to get out of Afghanistan rather than how to win. He's convinced that this is Vietnam redux, and that his job is to prevent Obama from going down the path of LBJ. The president's grand poobah for Afghanistan and Pakistan, Richard Holbrooke, who was shaped by his experiences as a young foreign service officer in Vietnam, has weighed in behind the scenes against McChrystal's coming request for more troops. Meanwhile, congressional Democrats, led by House speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Armed Services Committee chairman Carl Levin, are falling all over each other searching for the exits.
Of course this wing of the Democratic party--the dominant McGovern-Carter wing--has been wrong about just about everything in foreign policy over the last three decades. So maybe President Obama should look for guidance to another kind of Democrat. House Armed Services chairman Ike Skelton would be a good choice.
He is a 77-year-old Missourian in the Harry Truman tradition (indeed, his father was a good friend of Truman's). Last week, on the eve of the anniversary of 9/11, Skelton put out a statement titled "Americans Must Not Forget Why We Are In Afghanistan":
America's security depends on our success in denying al Qaeda breathing room to plot future attacks on the U.S. and our allies. . . . Tragically, the attacks of September 11, 2001, were not al Qaeda's first acts of war against the United States. The same plotters were behind the 1993 attacks on the World Trade Center, the 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers, the 1998 U.S. Embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya, and the attack on the USS Cole in the year 2000. And given the opportunity, al Qaeda would attack us again. We must keep al Qaeda on the run, as we have since 9/11.
Skelton reminded the president that "Now is not the time to lose our resolve. We must give our forces the time and resources they need to show progress in the fight against the enemies responsible for the attacks of 9/11."
General McChrystal and his boss, General David Petraeus, with the support of Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, are about to request additional forces needed to prevail in Afghanistan. We trust the president will approve their request--and if higher to lower risk options are presented, that he will choose the lowest risk option. That is, the option most likely to produce decisive results the most quickly.
The president must understand that this war is eminently winnable. He must understand what would be the consequences of retreat from the theater from which we were attacked eight years ago--for Afghanistan, for Pakistan, and around the world. Emanuel might want Obama to avoid being LBJ. But if Obama pulls out he will be Jimmy Carter--a post-9/11 Jimmy Carter. Not a recipe for a successful presidency.
This decision really shouldn't be based on politics. Obama should, as Ike Skelton suggests, remember 9/11. Previous generations of Americans remembered the Alamo and the Maine and Pearl Harbor. Surely this generation of Americans can remember 9/11 and act on the memory by winning the war in Afghanistan.
It's up to Barack Obama. Surely he doesn't want to be remembered for a Whisky Tango Foxtrot presidency?
-- William Kristolhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/weeklystandard/20090916/cm_weeklystandard/awhiskeytangofoxtrotpresidency
Wasn't it all about getting out of Iraq and going where we really needed to be (Afghanistan) ? And now that we are pulling of Iraq it might be time to pull out of Afghanistan?
Obama Hints He'll Resist McChrystal
[/URL] Robert Dreyfuss Robert Dreyfuss – Mon Sep 21, 5:16 am ET
[URL="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/cm_thenation/storytext/1096475493/33460330/SIG=10qa2akrp/*http://www.thenation.com"]The Nation (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/brand/SIG=114oafjqc/**http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thenation.com%2F) -- Contrary to my own expectations, President Obama seems to be hesitant about announcing yet another escalation in Afghanistan.
General McChrystal has thrown down the gauntlet (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/cm_thenation/storytext/1096475493/33460330/SIG=120bb91h0/*http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/21/world/asia/21afghan.html?hpw), saying that he needs more troops in the coming year or else the war "will likely result in failure." In his 66-page report, he added:
"Failure to gain the initiative and reverse insurgent momentum in the near term (next 12 months) -- while Afghan security capacity matures -- risks an outcome where defeating the insurgency is no longer possible."
But Obama suggested yesterday, during his marathon round of Sunday interviews, that he may not be ready to write McChrystal the blank check that he wants. Obama said that he "is not going to be driven by the politics of the moment," and he said that before he'll add more troops he wants to make sure that the strategy is correct. He said, on CNN:
"Right now, the question is, the first question is, are we doing the right thing? Are we pursuing the right strategy? When we have clarity on that, then the question is, O.K., how do we resource it?"
On CBS Face the Nation, Obama said:
"Whatever decisions I make are going to be based first on a strategy to keep us safe, then we'll figure out how to resource it. We're not going to put the cart before the horse and just think by sending more troops we're automatically going to make Americans safe."
And he reiterated the key point that his objective in Afghanistan is to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat Al Qaeda -- a goal that, according to many observers, is already accomplished -- rather than to rebuild, or rather build, a nation where none exists.
Under the headline, "Obama Questions Plan to Add Forces in Afghanistan," the Wall Street Journal reports (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/cm_thenation/storytext/1096475493/33460330/SIG=127frl2a2/*http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125345323201025705.html?mod=rss_Today):
"President Barack Obama on Sunday voiced skepticism that more troops would make a difference in Afghanistan, suggesting he might not rubber-stamp military officials' expected request to send more forces to that country. ... Mr. Obama's comments suggested that the White House could be reassessing its strategy in Afghanistan, ahead of an expected request for more troops from Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the U.S. and NATO commander there. ...
"Recent polls have shown declining support in the U.S. for the Afghanistan war. Mr. Obama has said that while he doesn't favor an open-ended war in Afghanistan, he has no deadline for withdrawing forces and won't base his decision on 'the politics of the moment.'"
Already, Republicans are warning that Obama had better follow the military's advice, or else. In fact, the president can afford to cross swords with the GOP troglodytes, but what he can't afford is to alienate his own Democratic party base, which has overwhelming rejected the war. (Polls show Democrats are strongly opposed to the war in Afghanistan.)
Stay tuned. I'm spending most of the day at the annual conference (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/cm_thenation/storytext/1096475493/33460330/SIG=117e55que/*http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/node/93)of the Foreign Policy Initiative (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/cm_thenation/storytext/1096475493/33460330/SIG=110agul4m/*http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/), the conclave of neoconservatives, and there ought to be a measurable level of apoplexy there.
William Kristol William Kristol – Wed Sep 16, 11:20 am ET
Washington (The Weekly Standard) Vol. 015, Issue 01 - 9/21/2009 – The single most damning story about President Obama so far is one we know courtesy of his national security adviser, Jim Jones. Visiting the newly installed military commanders in Afghanistan in late June, Jones told General Stanley McChrystal that if he requested more troops any time soon, Obama would have a "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot" (i.e., "What the f--") moment. Jones then, in an interview, made the claim--denied by everyone else involved--that military leaders had agreed that when the president earlier sent 21,000 troops to Afghanistan, "there would be a year from the time the decision was made before they would ever come back and ask for any more."
Okay. Jones is in way over his head. And, we gather, he'll likely be gone by Christmas. But it's still a remarkable statement by the president's national security adviser. Afghanistan is a war Obama supported repeatedly as a candidate. One of his first acts as president was to recommit to success in the struggle. Yet Jones was willing to portray his boss, both privately and publicly, as timid and fearful of tough decisions.
What's worrisome is that most of Obama's senior advisers seem to be on the same page as Jones. We hear that Rahm Emanuel is counseling the president to figure out how to get out of Afghanistan rather than how to win. He's convinced that this is Vietnam redux, and that his job is to prevent Obama from going down the path of LBJ. The president's grand poobah for Afghanistan and Pakistan, Richard Holbrooke, who was shaped by his experiences as a young foreign service officer in Vietnam, has weighed in behind the scenes against McChrystal's coming request for more troops. Meanwhile, congressional Democrats, led by House speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Armed Services Committee chairman Carl Levin, are falling all over each other searching for the exits.
Of course this wing of the Democratic party--the dominant McGovern-Carter wing--has been wrong about just about everything in foreign policy over the last three decades. So maybe President Obama should look for guidance to another kind of Democrat. House Armed Services chairman Ike Skelton would be a good choice.
He is a 77-year-old Missourian in the Harry Truman tradition (indeed, his father was a good friend of Truman's). Last week, on the eve of the anniversary of 9/11, Skelton put out a statement titled "Americans Must Not Forget Why We Are In Afghanistan":
America's security depends on our success in denying al Qaeda breathing room to plot future attacks on the U.S. and our allies. . . . Tragically, the attacks of September 11, 2001, were not al Qaeda's first acts of war against the United States. The same plotters were behind the 1993 attacks on the World Trade Center, the 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers, the 1998 U.S. Embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya, and the attack on the USS Cole in the year 2000. And given the opportunity, al Qaeda would attack us again. We must keep al Qaeda on the run, as we have since 9/11.
Skelton reminded the president that "Now is not the time to lose our resolve. We must give our forces the time and resources they need to show progress in the fight against the enemies responsible for the attacks of 9/11."
General McChrystal and his boss, General David Petraeus, with the support of Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, are about to request additional forces needed to prevail in Afghanistan. We trust the president will approve their request--and if higher to lower risk options are presented, that he will choose the lowest risk option. That is, the option most likely to produce decisive results the most quickly.
The president must understand that this war is eminently winnable. He must understand what would be the consequences of retreat from the theater from which we were attacked eight years ago--for Afghanistan, for Pakistan, and around the world. Emanuel might want Obama to avoid being LBJ. But if Obama pulls out he will be Jimmy Carter--a post-9/11 Jimmy Carter. Not a recipe for a successful presidency.
This decision really shouldn't be based on politics. Obama should, as Ike Skelton suggests, remember 9/11. Previous generations of Americans remembered the Alamo and the Maine and Pearl Harbor. Surely this generation of Americans can remember 9/11 and act on the memory by winning the war in Afghanistan.
It's up to Barack Obama. Surely he doesn't want to be remembered for a Whisky Tango Foxtrot presidency?
-- William Kristolhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/weeklystandard/20090916/cm_weeklystandard/awhiskeytangofoxtrotpresidency
Wasn't it all about getting out of Iraq and going where we really needed to be (Afghanistan) ? And now that we are pulling of Iraq it might be time to pull out of Afghanistan?
Obama Hints He'll Resist McChrystal
[/URL] Robert Dreyfuss Robert Dreyfuss – Mon Sep 21, 5:16 am ET
[URL="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/cm_thenation/storytext/1096475493/33460330/SIG=10qa2akrp/*http://www.thenation.com"]The Nation (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/brand/SIG=114oafjqc/**http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thenation.com%2F) -- Contrary to my own expectations, President Obama seems to be hesitant about announcing yet another escalation in Afghanistan.
General McChrystal has thrown down the gauntlet (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/cm_thenation/storytext/1096475493/33460330/SIG=120bb91h0/*http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/21/world/asia/21afghan.html?hpw), saying that he needs more troops in the coming year or else the war "will likely result in failure." In his 66-page report, he added:
"Failure to gain the initiative and reverse insurgent momentum in the near term (next 12 months) -- while Afghan security capacity matures -- risks an outcome where defeating the insurgency is no longer possible."
But Obama suggested yesterday, during his marathon round of Sunday interviews, that he may not be ready to write McChrystal the blank check that he wants. Obama said that he "is not going to be driven by the politics of the moment," and he said that before he'll add more troops he wants to make sure that the strategy is correct. He said, on CNN:
"Right now, the question is, the first question is, are we doing the right thing? Are we pursuing the right strategy? When we have clarity on that, then the question is, O.K., how do we resource it?"
On CBS Face the Nation, Obama said:
"Whatever decisions I make are going to be based first on a strategy to keep us safe, then we'll figure out how to resource it. We're not going to put the cart before the horse and just think by sending more troops we're automatically going to make Americans safe."
And he reiterated the key point that his objective in Afghanistan is to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat Al Qaeda -- a goal that, according to many observers, is already accomplished -- rather than to rebuild, or rather build, a nation where none exists.
Under the headline, "Obama Questions Plan to Add Forces in Afghanistan," the Wall Street Journal reports (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/cm_thenation/storytext/1096475493/33460330/SIG=127frl2a2/*http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125345323201025705.html?mod=rss_Today):
"President Barack Obama on Sunday voiced skepticism that more troops would make a difference in Afghanistan, suggesting he might not rubber-stamp military officials' expected request to send more forces to that country. ... Mr. Obama's comments suggested that the White House could be reassessing its strategy in Afghanistan, ahead of an expected request for more troops from Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the U.S. and NATO commander there. ...
"Recent polls have shown declining support in the U.S. for the Afghanistan war. Mr. Obama has said that while he doesn't favor an open-ended war in Afghanistan, he has no deadline for withdrawing forces and won't base his decision on 'the politics of the moment.'"
Already, Republicans are warning that Obama had better follow the military's advice, or else. In fact, the president can afford to cross swords with the GOP troglodytes, but what he can't afford is to alienate his own Democratic party base, which has overwhelming rejected the war. (Polls show Democrats are strongly opposed to the war in Afghanistan.)
Stay tuned. I'm spending most of the day at the annual conference (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/cm_thenation/storytext/1096475493/33460330/SIG=117e55que/*http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/node/93)of the Foreign Policy Initiative (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/cm_thenation/storytext/1096475493/33460330/SIG=110agul4m/*http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/), the conclave of neoconservatives, and there ought to be a measurable level of apoplexy there.