Census taker found hanged with "fed" on chest...

[ronnieraygun]

A U.S. Census worker found hanged from a tree near a Kentucky cemetery had the word "fed" scrawled on his chest, a law enforcement official said Wednesday, and the FBI is investigating whether he was a victim of anti-government sentiment.
The law enforcement official, who was not authorized to discuss the case and requested anonymity, did not say what type of instrument was used to write the word on the chest of Bill Sparkman, a 51-year-old part-time Census field worker and teacher. He was found Sept. 12 in a remote patch of the Daniel Boone National Forest in rural southeast Kentucky.
The Census has suspended door-to-door interviews in rural Clay County, where the body was found, pending the outcome of the investigation. An autopsy report is pending.
Investigators have said little about the case. FBI spokesman David Beyer said the bureau is assisting state police and declined to confirm or discuss any details about the crime scene.
"Our job is to determine if there was foul play involved — and that's part of the investigation — and if there was foul play involved, whether that is related to his employment as a Census worker," said Beyer.
Attacking a federal worker during or because of his federal job is a federal crime.
Sparkman's mother, Henrie Sparkman of Inverness, Fla., told The Associated Press her son was an Eagle scout who moved to the area to be a local director for the Boy Scouts of America. She said he later became a substitute teacher in Laurel County and supplemented that income as a Census worker.
She said investigators have given her few details about her son's death — they told her the body was decomposed — and haven't yet released his body for burial. "I was told it would be better for him to be cremated," she said.
Henrie Sparkman said her son's death is a mystery to her.
"I have my own ideas, but I can't say them out loud. Not at this point," she said. "Right now, what I'm doing, I'm just waiting on the FBI to come to some conclusion."
Lucindia Scurry-Johnson, assistant director of the Census Bureau's southern office in Charlotte, N.C., said law enforcement officers have told the agency the matter is "an apparent homicide" but nothing else.
Census employees were told Sparkman's truck was found nearby, and a computer he was using for work was found inside it, she said. He worked part-time for the Census, usually conducting interviews once or twice a month.
Sparkman has worked for the Census since 2003, spanning five counties in the surrounding area. Much of his recent work had been in Clay County, officials said.
Door-to-door operations have been suspended in Clay County pending a resolution of the investigation, Scurry-Johnson said.
The Census Bureau has yet to begin door-to-door canvassing for the 2010 head count, but it has thousands of field workers doing smaller surveys on various demographic topics on behalf of federal agencies. Next year, the Census Bureau will dispatch up to 1.2 million temporary employees to locate hard-to-find residents.
The Census Bureau is overseen by the Commerce Department.
"We are deeply saddened by the loss of our co-worker," Commerce Secretary Gary Locke said in a statement. "Our thoughts and prayers are with William Sparkman's son, other family and friends."
Locke called him "a shining example of the hardworking men and women employed by the Census Bureau."
Appalachia scholar Roy Silver, a New York City native now living in Harlan County, Ky., said he doesn't sense an outpouring of anti-government sentiment in the region as has been exhibited in town hall meetings in other parts of the country.
"I don't think distrust of government is any more or less here than anywhere else in the country," said Silver, a sociology professor at Southeast Community College.
The most deadly attack on federal workers came in 1995 when the federal building in Oklahoma City was devastated by a truck bomb, killing 168 and injuring more than 680. Timothy McVeigh, who was executed for the bombing, carried literature by modern, ultra-right-wing anti-government authors.
A private group called PEER, Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, tracks violence against employees who enforce environmental regulations, but the group's executive director, Jeff Ruch, said it's hard to know about all of the cases because some agencies don't share data on instances of violence against employees.
From 1996 to 2006, according to the group's most recent data, violent incidents against federal Bureau of Land Management and Forest Service workers soared from 55 to 290.
Ruch said that after the 1995 bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City, "we kept getting reports from employees that attacks and intimidation against federal employees had not diminished, and that's why we've been tracking them."
"Even as illustrated in town hall meetings today, there is a distinct hostility in a large segment of the population toward people who work for their government," Ruch said.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/09/23/national/w140345D22.DTL&type=printable

[Elbs]

sfgate.com

this will not end well.

[MaverickCowboy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/23/census-worker-hanged-with_n_297114.html





WASHINGTON — The FBI is investigating the hanging death of a U.S. Census worker near a Kentucky cemetery, and a law enforcement official told The Associated Press the word 'fed" was scrawled on the dead man's chest.
The body of Bill Sparkman, a 51-year-old part-time Census field worker and occasional teacher, was found Sept. 12 in a remote patch of the Daniel Boone National Forest in rural southeast Kentucky. The Census has suspended door-to-door interviews in rural Clay County, where the body was found, pending the outcome of the investigation.
Investigators are still trying to determine whether the death was a killing or a suicide, and if a killing, whether the motive was related to his government job or to anti-government sentiment.
Investigators have said little about the case. The law enforcement official, who was not authorized to discuss the case and requested anonymity, said Wednesday the man was found hanging from a tree and the word "fed" was written on the dead man's chest. The official did not say what type of instrument was used to write the word.
FBI spokesman David Beyer said the bureau is helping state police with the case.
"Our job is to determine if there was foul play involved – and that's part of the investigation – and if there was foul play involved, whether that is related to his employment as a census worker," said Beyer.
Beyer declined to confirm or discuss any details about the crime scene.
Lucindia Scurry-Johnson, assistant director of the Census Bureau's southern office in Charlotte, N.C., said law enforcement officers have told the agency the matter is "an apparent homicide" but nothing else.


Census employees were told Sparkman's truck was found nearby, and a computer he was using for work was found inside it, she said. He worked part-time for the Census, usually conducting interviews once or twice a month.
Sparkman has worked for the Census since 2003, spanning five counties in the surrounding area. Much of his recent work had been in Clay County, officials said.
Door-to-door operations have been suspended in Clay County pending a resolution of the investigation, Scurry-Johnson said.
The U.S. Census Bureau is overseen by the Commerce Department.
"We are deeply saddened by the loss of our co-worker," Commerce Secretary Gary Locke said in a statement. "Our thoughts and prayers are with William Sparkman's son, other family and friends."
Locke called him "a shining example of the hardworking men and women employed by the Census Bureau."
___
McMurray reported from Lexington, Ky.


MontanaGlass: I hate census worker (s) as much as any God-fearing, Glenn Beck devouring, Palin supporting American. But I oppose murder on principle.
12 minutes ago from web

SiaraDelyn: People who want to commit suicide don't write "fed" on themselves #hanged census worker
14 minutes ago from web

danimalcrackers: terrible killing of a census worker. It shouldn't be hard to find the people who did it... they're on Fox news and syndicated radio everyday
15 minutes ago from web

kayce_m: @abba_ks as soon as i saw the census worker story, i thought of michelle bachman who encouraged ppl to "take up arms" against census.
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irish_1: @joesonka census worker body found on 9/12 but decomposed. date was just coincidence.
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odanielpavon: AP source: Hanged Census worker had 'fed' on chest (AP) : AP - A U.S. Census worker found hanged from a tree near a Kentucky cemetery h..
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SiaraDelyn: Any chance at all this isn't political? #hanged census worker
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SiaraDelyn: @shadimirza : "A US Census worker was found hanged. Our country may or may not be at the mercy of right-wing nutjobs:" We didn't speak out
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eatadog: They found a Census Worker Hanged on a Tree with the word Fed branded on his body! Disturbing on so many levels!
20 minutes ago from web

the_turtle: @baxterblogs death of the census worker? Stabbed in the gut with a pencil?
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DaveTheNoteTaker: Hey, a damn good reason why everyone should be armed, to protect themselves from the right. Every liberal should be armed and trained in the use of fire-arms in the case of Teabaggers, baptists, clanemen, Blue-dogs, Neo-cons, Ron Paul Supporters, and any dangerous mentally il-equipped traitorts <.<
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[MaverickCowboy]

and here is the scapegoat to ban republicans.

[seraosha]

How the **** did republicians get dragged into this?

oh, huffington, my bad missed the link.

[CG51]

^ Huh? I just looked and it's on all the major news sources.

[DPM_Sheep]

Anybody else hearing the Deliverance tune....?

[LineDoggie]

And if it isnt Suicide they really need to hunt the cocksuckers who did this down. Lynching is the mark of the lowest cowards -usually those inbred sister fcukers who wear pillowcases on their heads.

[Ordie]

My prayers and sincere sympathy to the victim and his familiy. Especially in the line of duty for his community and his country.

[JJC]

How the **** did republicians get dragged into this?

oh, huffington, my bad missed the link.
I think Glen Beck and his conspiracy theories against census bureau being taken over by liberals in the White House and Acorn collaborating with census has something to do with the finger pointing. :)

[seraosha]

Well ACORN was collaborating with the census, atleast untill the latest undercover films were released. And liberals in the whitehouse is pretty obvious...but I don't watch tv, what's glen beck saying that would possibly be construed as open season on a person polling for the census?

I gave up on TV news after the first gulfwar. :oops:

[Universal_Soldier]

and if it isnt suicide they really need to hunt the cocksuckers who did this down. Lynching is the mark of the lowest cowards -usually those inbred sister fcukers who wear pillowcases on their heads.

x2...........

[GlassHarp]

This is bad.

I have a very bad feeling about the current political discord and the way it is headed.

IMHO the number one issue concerning the leadership in Washington (after the wars in M.E.) should be how to bridge the political divide and find common ground for unity. I do not see it happening at all. It is a shame.

[LRPV]

And if it isnt Suicide they really need to hunt the cocksuckers who did this down. Lynching is the mark of the lowest cowards -usually those inbred sister fcukers who wear pillowcases on their heads.

This guy was black?

[MaverickCowboy]

This guy was black?

No. a white guy.

but white right wingers killing a white fed guy is still a racist crime.

[LRPV]

No. a white guy.

but white right wingers killing a white fed guy is still a racist crime.

Racist? How so? Simple murder is clear enough...but racist?

[GlassHarp]

Racist? How so? Simple murder is clear enough...but racist?

Because Obama? Maybe he is being sarcastic.

[Skutatos]

I say it was liberals...because he was white...and um...they want to make republicans look bad...and...um...ACORN is no longer part of the census so they are mad...

Just read those comments under the articles. I feel like all the liberals out there think everyone who votes republican is some sort of nazi/kkk/catholic out to annihilate them. They could all use some anti-anxiety medication and calm the **** down.

[Ordie]

sfgate.com

this will not end well.

Actually the source of the article is AP.

Its very tragic.

Especially for an man dedicated to his community and country.

[Connaught Ranger]

Well ACORN was collaborating with the census, at least untill the latest undercover films were released.

Were they actually breaking any law?

[Elbs]

Actually the source of the article is AP.

Its very tragic.

Especially for an man dedicated to his community and country.

Yeah I know. I was predicting a flame fest, but it's been pretty civil.

It's sad that we've come to a point in our country that news like this comes out and we have to wonder if this act it was politically motivated

I hope whoever did this (if not a suicide) is caught quickly and dealt with.

[MaverickCowboy]

Racist? How so? Simple murder is clear enough...but racist?

Its racist, anyone who does not agree with the president is because they dont like the color of his skin. Pure and simple. any anti-government actions is clearly xenophobia racist inbred republican christian retards.

The republican party needs to get banned from the U.S.
I mean they banned the nazi party in Germany. republicans are nothing but Nationalist Facist Racist nazi's. i mean , even the TEA PARTIES were really KKK rallies.
Killing the census guy was a hate crime towards obama. this is a sign that Republicans, Christians, and conservatives are nothing but militia right wing nut jobs and should be imprisoned and tortured and given a taste of their own medicine. what they did the last 8 years is TYRANNY.

/sarcasm

p.s. what happened to equal opportunity killers?

[GlassHarp]

I say it was liberals...because he was white...and um...they want to make republicans look bad...and...um...ACORN is no longer part of the census so they are mad...

.

The body was found before the acorn story broke.

[GlassHarp]

http://www.youtube.com/v/CQv8zIYuFbU&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/v/CQv8zIYuFbU&feature=player_embedded)

[rgjbloke]

Very tragic. Rest in peace to Bill Sparkman.

[seraosha]

Were they actually breaking any law?

What are you talking about?

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ACORN was working with the census bureau
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/12/us/politics/12acorn.html

And RIP to the poor man...he was just doing his part for his country and community, and I hope the dirtbags that killed him are found and brought to justice.

[RxOnco]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090924/D9ATL1BO0.html




MANCHESTER, Ky. (AP) - When Bill Sparkman told retired trooper Gilbert Acciardo that he was going door-to-door collecting census data in rural Kentucky, the former cop drawing on years of experience warned: "Be careful." The 51-year-old Sparkman was found hanged from a tree near a Kentucky cemetery and had the word "fed" scrawled on his chest, a law enforcement official said Wednesday, and the FBI is investigating whether he was a victim of anti-government sentiment...


This will be racism...

[SkyUS]

****ing shameful and what a bunch of pussies. If you want to protest the FED and want to show it, why don't you get yer gunz and march down to Washington DC.

RIP

[hank]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090924/D9ATL1BO0.html



This will be racism...

Why?

hank

[Firefly26]

A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

[RxOnco]

Why?

hank

At this point, I just always assume.

[hank]

When Bill Sparkman told retired trooper Gilbert Acciardo that he was going door-to-door collecting census data in rural Kentucky, the former cop drew on years of experience for a warning: "Be careful."

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The 51-year-old Sparkman was found this month hanged from a tree near a Kentucky cemetery with the word "fed" scrawled on his chest, a law enforcement official said Wednesday, and the FBI is investigating whether he was a victim of anti-government sentiment.

"Even though he was with the Census Bureau, sometimes people can view someone with any government agency as 'the government.' I just was afraid that he might meet the wrong character along the way up there," said Acciardo, who directs an after-school program at an elementary school where Sparkman was a frequent substitute teacher.

The Census Bureau has suspended door-to-door interviews in rural Clay County, where the body was found, until the investigation is complete, an official said.

The law enforcement official, who was not authorized to discuss the case and requested anonymity, did not say what type of instrument was used to write the word on the chest of Sparkman, who was supplementing his income doing Census field work. He was found Sept. 12 in a remote patch of Daniel Boone National Forest and an autopsy report is pending.

Manchester, the main hub of the southeastern Kentucky county, is an exit off the highway, with a Walmart, a few hotels, chain restaurants and a couple gas stations. The drive away from town and toward the area where Sparkman's body was found goes through sparsely populated forest with no streetlights, on winding roads that run up and down steep hills.

Manchester Police Chief Jeff Culver, whose agency is not part of the investigation because the death was outside city limits, said the area where Sparkman was found has a history of problems with prescription drug and methamphetamine trading.

"That part of the county, it has its ups and downs. We'll get a lot of complaints of drug activity. They'll whittle away, then flourish back up," Culver said. He said officers last month rounded up 40 drug suspects, mostly dealers, and made several more arrests in subsequent days.

FBI spokesman David Beyer said the bureau is assisting state police and declined to discuss any details of the crime scene. Agents are trying to determine if foul play was involved and whether it had anything to do with Sparkman's job as Census worker, Beyer said. Attacking a federal worker during or because of his federal job is a federal crime.

Lucindia Scurry-Johnson, assistant director of the Census Bureau's southern office in Charlotte, N.C., said law enforcement officers have told the agency the matter is "an apparent homicide" but nothing else.

Census employees were told Sparkman's truck was found nearby, and a computer he was using for work was inside, she said.

Sparkman's mother, Henrie Sparkman of Inverness, Fla., told The Associated Press her son was an Eagle scout who moved to Kentucky to direct the local Boy Scouts of America. He later became a substitute teacher in Laurel County, adjacent to the county where his body was found.

She said investigators have given her few details about her son's death. They did tell her his body was decomposed and haven't yet released it for burial.

"I was told it would be better for him to be cremated," she said.

Acciardo said he became suspicious and went to police when Sparkman didn't show up for work at the after-school program in Laurel County for two days. Authorities immediately investigated, he said.

"He was such an innocent person," Acciardo said. "I hate to say that he was naive, but he saw the world as all good, and there's a lot of bad in the world."

Sparkman had worked for the Census since 2003 in five counties in the surrounding area, conducting interviews once or twice a month. Much of his recent work had been in Clay County, officials said.

The Census Bureau has yet to begin door-to-door canvassing for the 2010 head count, but thousands of field workers are doing smaller surveys on various demographic topics on behalf of federal agencies. Next year, the Census Bureau will dispatch up to 1.2 million temporary employees to locate hard-to-find residents.

Mary Hibbard, a teacher in Manchester, said she recognized Sparkman on the news as the census worker who visited her house this summer for about 10 minutes. Hibbard said he asked some basic questions including the size of her house, how many rooms it had and how much she paid monthly for electricity.

"I know he has a Christian background," she said. "You come to my house, we're going to talk religion."

Hibbard said she thinks most people in the area were shocked by the death.

"I think the negative publicity of it is a stigma on our county. It makes people think less of us even though this is an isolated incident."

The Census Bureau is overseen by the Commerce Department.

"We are deeply saddened by the loss of our co-worker," Commerce Secretary Gary Locke said in a statement.

Locke called him "a shining example of the hardworking men and women employed by the Census Bureau."

Kelsee Brown, a waitress at Huddle House, a 24-hour chain restaurant in Manchester, when asked about the death, said she thinks the government sometimes has the wrong priorities.

"Sometimes I think the government should stick their nose out of people's business and stick their nose in their business at the same time. They care too much about the wrong things," she said.

Appalachia scholar Roy Silver, a New York City native now living in Harlan County, Ky., said he doesn't sense an outpouring of anti-government sentiment in the region as has been exhibited in town hall meetings in other parts of the country.

"I don't think distrust of government is any more or less here than anywhere else in the country," said Silver, a sociology professor at Southeast Community College.

The most deadly attack on federal workers came in 1995 when the federal building in Oklahoma City was devastated by a truck bomb, killing 168 and injuring more than 680. Timothy McVeigh, who was executed for the bombing, carried literature by ultra-right-wing, anti-government authors.

Sparkman's mother is simply waiting for answers.

"I have my own ideas, but I can't say them out loud. Not at this point," she said. "Right now, what I'm doing, I'm just waiting on the FBI to come to some conclusion."


Here is the actual AP report. I read it--albeit quickly--and I don't see any reference to race whatsoever. Looks more likely drug related to me.

But I guess it already may be race related since that's the very first thing said about it here.

hank

[Fireball Sanchez]

Already being discussed Here. (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=165728)

[hank]

Why would anybody even mention race with respect to this killing? How does that even come up?

hank

[Jobu]

Why would anybody even mention race with respect to this killing? How does that even come up?

hank

Ask Jimmy Carter.

[hank]

Ask Jimmy Carter.

Are you saying RXonco is Jimmy Carter? That would be a revelation. And a bit ironic.

hank

[Jobu]

Maybe he was giving us a clue to the killer's name.

FED....erline!

[Mastermind]

It is a murder...plain and simple and the idea this is a "Census Worker" is an assumed importance for political reasons...Why?

Thank God the worker was not shot. Now, the real problem is how the left can ban hangman's (-woman's) nooses. Or what if the worker had been attacked by an SUV? OH, the horror of it. But, banning the SUV's is right in line with saving the planet from (gasp) Global Warming!...But, nooses...? How can that fit into the lefts political agenda?

This story will not grow legs....

Now, if the Worker had been a petite little blond teen girl and she had vanished from a beach party that had been attended by boys from some right-winger family, or attended by a guy who's Dad owned guns and was rich....Wow! Six months news sponge...minimum - and it would snag up all the political muck Obambi and the Democrats get into every day.

[vryhpyammoadded]

Were they actually breaking any law?
ACORN was attempting to racially gerrymander in my district which is illegal. I had one hell of an argument with a group of them outside the capitol too. Their argument was that white folk had been doing it for over a hundred years, now it’s their turn, along with some neo Marxist psychobabble trying to rationalize it all.

This homicide is a terrible thing. One for the tragic loss of life, and the other for the powers that be who will be certain to make the most out of it to smash dissent.

This will only get worse. Both sides need to calm down and play by the rules.

[Mastermind]

ACORN was attempting to racially gerrymander in my district which is illegal. I had one hell of an argument with a group of them outside the capitol too. Their argument was that white folk had been doing it for over a hundred years, now it’s their turn, along with some neo Marxist psychobabble trying to rationalize it all.

This homicide is a terrible thing. One for the tragic loss of life, and the other for the powers that be who will be certain to make the most out of it to smash dissent.

This will only get worse. Both sides need to calm down and play by the rules.
Excellent point...but, the wrong side has not been playing by the rules for a very long time now...and they are winning.

[Jobu]

This will only get worse. Both sides need to calm down and play by the rules.

And if you can't play by the rules and win, simply change the rules in your favor.

See Mass., New Jersey, UAW, etc.

[Ordie]

It is a murder...plain and simple and the idea this is a "Census Worker" is an assumed importance for political reasons...Why?

We don't know until the FBI completes the investigation, apprehension, prosecution and trial to find out about the motives.

[hank]

Hold on, he did have the word "Fed" etched in his chest. Its not too far a leap to get to a political motivation or anti-govt sentiment. But racism is, to me, a pretty good stretch at this point. Especially since he appears to be white and killed in a predominately white part of the world. RxOnco's assumptions aside I just don't see race as being part of this equation based on the info available.

hank

[Ordie]

Hold on, he did have the word "Fed" etched in his chest. Its not too far a leap to get to a political motivation or anti-govt sentiment. But racism is, to me, a pretty good stretch at this point. Especially since he appears to be white and killed in a predominately white part of the world. RxOnco's assumptions aside I just don't see race as being part of this equation based on the info available.

hank


Would this be defined as a hate crime in Federal Court?

[hank]

I don't know enough about that Ordie. Don't do any criminal law. Sorry.

hank

[RxOnco]

In my defense...I was being sarcastic.

[notherhen40]

And if it isnt Suicide they really need to hunt the cocksuckers who did this down. Lynching is the mark of the lowest cowards -usually those inbred sister fcukers who wear pillowcases on their heads.

I really do not think this is the case.....If you want to know the truth, people are fed up with the way our government currently does business and how government officials do not want to listen to the people they serve. Government has every right to be afraid, very afraid....especially when this will not be the only case of supposed anti government sentiment in the coming months ahead.

If the current corrupt leaders currently in power now want to end anti government sentiment, then they had better wake up and address problems due to chronic unemployment in rust belt states and else where, and they had better start listening to the people.:)

[notherhen40]

And if you can't play by the rules and win, simply change the rules in your favor.

See Mass., New Jersey, UAW, etc.

Do not forget Utah, California, and Washington

[RxOnco]

I really do not think this is the case.....If you want to know the truth, people are fed up with the way our government currently does business and how government officials do not want to listen to the people they serve. Government has every right to be afraid, very afraid....especially when this will not be the only case of supposed anti government sentiment in the coming months ahead...

Due to membership in a couple of "right wing" organizations, I have weekly to monthly contact with some that are out there. However, I'm not sure any of them are prepared to start lynching folks.

[Mastermind]

"Listening to the people..."

Northern, that's an excellent point! I have to wonder why it seems (emphasis) the elected are not listening to the people. Why is there this unprecedented arrogance on the part of our elected? Why do they not seem to fear the people anymore?

To me, those are the most important questions to be asked.

It would seem, this last August put the fear of the people back in the Democrats, at least. But, now we see the original HC plan from the House being almost totally ignored and there is all this talk about the Bacus Plan from the Senate...a plan that would seem is bound for the table and not the Presidents desk, even before it reaches any discussion...over five hundred ammendments already on the floor...it is doomed to paper hell and not passage at all...and the House plan is completely forlorn. Or so things seem. Dirty Harry Reid is again reciting his "Nuclear Option" speech, threatening to cram the HC bill down the American people's throats, whether they like it or not. Of course, he will not do that...the Party is on shaky enough ground as it is. harry would not completely destroy the Democrat chances of retaining control in 2010....would he?

Something is going on...something very big...they know something the media and the electred ones are not telling us. Will we wake up one morning to find the houses of congress "Closed", and only politicians friendly to Obama still functioning...all others "resigned"? Is the date already agreed upon?


As things are playing out, we have to ask....are we going to face a real "Seven Days in May"?

[LineDoggie]

I really do not think this is the case.....If you want to know the truth, people are fed up with the way our government currently does business and how government officials do not want to listen to the people they serve. Government has every right to be afraid, very afraid....especially when this will not be the only case of supposed anti government sentiment in the coming months ahead.

If the current corrupt leaders currently in power now want to end anti government sentiment, then they had better wake up and address problems due to chronic unemployment in rust belt states and else where, and they had better start listening to the people.:)

Dont take this the wrong way, your not the target.

I'm fed up with Many things the Government and this Regime* is currently doing.

But I dont go around stringing up a Necktie party for some poor bastard working the Census as Strange Fruit. The Fcuksticks who perpetrated this need to be found and the weight of the law smack them around like a rented Mule.

They are fcuking cowards, and I for one dont stand with cowards who Lynch an innocent man doing his job because they dont like the Government. What friggen threat was this man? an unarmed 51 year old Schoolteacher.

What a Blow for freedom the cowards struck.





* (Anyone who doesnt like me using "regime" after it was used for the last 8 years can blow me.)

[Elbs]

I'm fed up with Many things the Government and this Regime* is currently doing.

But I dont go around stringing up a Necktie party for some poor bastard working the Census as Strange Fruit. The Fcuksticks who perpetrated this need to be found and the weight of the law smack them around like a rented Mule.

They are fcuking cowards, and I for one dont stand with cowards who Lynch an innocent man doing his job because they dont like the Government. What friggen threat was this man? an unarmed 51 year old Schoolteacher.

What a Blow for freedom the cowards struck.





* (Anyone who doesnt like me using "regime" after it was used for the last 8 years can blow me.)

Couldn't have said it better myself.

You don't like what the government is doing, tough ****. Do something about it at the polls, not taking it out on a man doing his ****ing job for christs sake. What possible benefit could that make? Sticking it to the man? There's absolutely no justifying murder of an innocent man like this.

It's asshats that do things like this on both sides, left and right, that are driving this country into the ground.

[Jobu]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

You don't like what the government is doing, tough ****. Do something about it at the polls, not taking it out on a man doing his ****ing job for christs sake. What possible benefit could that make? Sticking it to the man? There's absolutely no justifying murder of an innocent man like this.

It's asshats that do things like this on both sides, left and right, that are driving this country into the ground.


Maybe he stumbled onto an illegal moonshiner? Maybe someone else who had reason to fear the feds? While it may indeed be some nutter who's paranoid about the government that did this, it could also be your every day murderous criminal.

Let's not jump to conclusions.

[skipperbob]

I really do not think this is the case.....If you want to know the truth, people are fed up with the way our government currently does business and how government officials do not want to listen to the people they serve. Government has every right to be afraid, very afraid....especially when this will not be the only case of supposed anti government sentiment in the coming months ahead.

If the current corrupt leaders currently in power now want to end anti government sentiment, then they had better wake up and address problems due to chronic unemployment in rust belt states and else where, and they had better start listening to the people.:)

Don't hand out this crap! Current leaders were legally elected by a majority of the American people and they are listening to the people, not just a few loud mouths! I didn't hear this bull from all these "Tea Party" people about government run wild when Bush was in office! He trampled the constitution, increased the size of government, turned a major surplus into a massive deficit and gave huge tax breaks to the top 2% of citizens in this country and all you loud mouths were quiet then. It took years to get this country in this mess and you expect Obama to fix it in a few months? The cost to our budget from tax cuts alone is over 3 trillion dollars, more than twice what the health plan is projected to cost and what did those tax cuts for the wealthy bring? More greed and corruption. You'll have your chance again in 2010 and 2012.

[Laconian]

What a tragedy. This guy is hanged for being a census worker? And "Fed" is carved into his chest. That's just not sitting well. There's more here. Prayers and condolences to his family.

[Euroamerican]

^--- Huh? The left screamed for eight years and constantly stuck barbs in the Bush Admin. Bush Lied, People Died, No War for Oil, blah blah blah. The hung him in effigy, hung Sarah Palin in effigy, did photo mashups to make him look like an ape, took extreme schadenfreude every time he stumbled through a speech, constantly blamed him for everything from the price of gas to 9/11.

[Euroamerican]

Maybe he stumbled onto an illegal moonshiner? Maybe someone else who had reason to fear the feds? While it may indeed be some nutter who's paranoid about the government that did this, it could also be your every day murderous criminal.

Let's not jump to conclusions.

Yeah. Maybe he accidentally walked into a marijuana patch and the illegal alien ex-Mexican army guards though he was a federale and took him out before he could squeal about their grow?....

RIP to the guy. I do know some people who are paranoid about the government trying to get info from them. "I ain't gonna tell them schit.. It's none of their bizz... yada yada yada. I don't envy a census worker his job.

[socom6]

Dont take this the wrong way, your not the target.

I'm fed up with Many things the Government and this Regime* is currently doing.

But I dont go around stringing up a Necktie party for some poor bastard working the Census as Strange Fruit. The Fcuksticks who perpetrated this need to be found and the weight of the law smack them around like a rented Mule.

They are fcuking cowards, and I for one dont stand with cowards who Lynch an innocent man doing his job because they dont like the Government. What friggen threat was this man? an unarmed 51 year old Schoolteacher.

What a Blow for freedom the cowards struck.





* (Anyone who doesnt like me using "regime" after it was used for the last 8 years can blow me.)


You the man Linedoggie.(S) I dont like the vibes of this. Smell like some Fort Sumter 1861 shyt.

[Hispeed1]

Rest in peace. I hope they catch the murderer/s.

[Maj C]

Maybe he stumbled onto an illegal moonshiner? Maybe someone else who had reason to fear the feds? While it may indeed be some nutter who's paranoid about the government that did this, it could also be your every day murderous criminal.

Let's not jump to conclusions.

i was going to say...my friends from TN and KY have told me there is a deep seated mistrust of the federal government stretching back long before Obama esp regarding the ATF i.e. "revenooers". Where do you think NASCAR originated?

one of them told me of working as a lineman inspecting power lines and coming upon a hillbilly who's first question was "do you work for the government?"

[Chulo]

This is bad.

I have a very bad feeling about the current political discord and the way it is headed.

IMHO the number one issue concerning the leadership in Washington (after the wars in M.E.) should be how to bridge the political divide and find common ground for unity. I do not see it happening at all. It is a shame.
You have to understand the context of the place. This is rural Appalachia, where moonshiners and bootleggers are celebrated, and meth and marijuana is produced. There are national guard gunships that fly overhead looking for marijuana fields and ****y traps that are left for feds.
I belive its a stupid drug runner, nothing political (even though their animosity may have risen due to the present government)

[GlassHarp]

You have to understand the context of the place. This is rural Appalachia, where moonshiners and bootleggers are celebrated, and meth and marijuana is produced. There are national guard gunships that fly overhead looking for marijuana fields and ****y traps that are left for feds.
I belive its a stupid drug runner, nothing political (even though their animosity may have risen due to the present government)

Ic, Thanks!

[RxOnco]

You have to understand the context of the place. This is rural Appalachia, where moonshiners and bootleggers are celebrated, and meth and marijuana is produced. There are national guard gunships that fly overhead looking for marijuana fields and ****y traps that are left for feds.
I belive its a stupid drug runner, nothing political (even though their animosity may have risen due to the present government)

I could understand if we were talking about the Zetas protecting their cocaine route in the Southwest. I find it hard to believe that some Billy with a meth lab is going to go so far as to hang a man to make a point.
This is some kook that has let his anger and imiagination get the best of him.

[Trouble]

Were they actually breaking any law?

With regard to the videos; Yes they were:
Conspiracy to engage in human trafficking
conspiring to commit child abuse
tax evasion
defrauding the federal government
misappropriation of Federal Funds
and a long list of other lesser crimes.

With the Census, well that is an issue of ACORN's past and current history of fraud, and illegal activity... the videos just made the who thing Very very Public and therefore almost no one could afford to continue supporting that organization.

Though they are now known as Community Organizers International (COI) and are doing this same stuff overseas as well.... I wonder how much money is going to COI ?

[Ordie]

You have to understand the context of the place. This is rural Appalachia, where moonshiners and bootleggers are celebrated, and meth and marijuana is produced. There are national guard gunships that fly overhead looking for marijuana fields and ****y traps that are left for feds.
I belive its a stupid drug runner, nothing political (even though their animosity may have risen due to the present government)

The census is based on a head count not by sample.

The census includes everyone including non-citizens. (including the undocumented).

The census number determines the number of seats each state is allotted in the House of Representatives. The more people each state has, the more representatives. If the state shows a decrease in population, it will lose the number of seats in Congress.

The census also determines the number of Electoral College votes allotted to each state. Naturally the more people, the more votes.

The census also determines the appropriation of federal funds to each state.

Given the age of technology and access to vital statistical information, the information from the census through census tracts, can better determine population density and may aid cities to better manage land use and transportation planning, or target specific areas of concerns in terms of poverty levels.

Appalachia historically has been a poverty stricken area. If folks do not participate in the census, they are shooting themselves in the foot for the potential of getting federal aid, educational grants and possibly another voice in Congress.

If there is resistance to a head count census, it may lead to a call for sampling methodology.

Given the influx of immigrants to the southeast, I would not be surprised if states such as Georgia may get another seat in Congress and additional electoral college votes. But its all depends upon an accurate head count including the undocumented.

The GOP stands to gain in the southeast and southwest, only if they can count upon the undocumented to participate in the census.

[bryanleu2002]

I don't know enough about that Ordie. Don't do any criminal law. Sorry.

hank

What kind of law do you do? Check out (just posted )"never pay taxes again" under rants 9-24-09 . just for you Hank , When are you going to collect that $ . and why is that site still alive...?????



Bryanleu

[notherhen40]

Don't hand out this crap! Current leaders were legally elected by a majority of the American people and they are listening to the people, not just a few loud mouths! I didn't hear this bull from all these "Tea Party" people about government run wild when Bush was in office! He trampled the constitution, increased the size of government, turned a major surplus into a massive deficit and gave huge tax breaks to the top 2% of citizens in this country and all you loud mouths were quiet then. It took years to get this country in this mess and you expect Obama to fix it in a few months? The cost to our budget from tax cuts alone is over 3 trillion dollars, more than twice what the health plan is projected to cost and what did those tax cuts for the wealthy bring? More greed and corruption. You'll have your chance again in 2010 and 2012.

Hmmmm.....seems to me every one cried the same crap when Bush was in office. Its just now that people are beginning to realize that either the government is corrupt, or the government is corrupt.

The only thing now is there is a different man in office trampling the constitution, putting us into a cycle of debt that we will never recover from, compromising national security to please campaign contributers and other countries we owe money too like China, and most of Europe. And lets not forget the grandiose delusional subjects like his national healthcare program that only benefits illegal aliens, insurance companies, hospitals and doctors.
And if you think taxes are bad now...just wait until next year when he announces the economy is out of danger, and starts raising taxes through the sky like a rocket to the moon.

yes, the United States government has lost grasp of its purpose..due the wishes of its people. But now, when citizens start being fed up and taking lethal action, all the cries are out for the tin hat brigade. How ever, that crying you hear is not the cries for the tin hat brigade, it is the sounds of angry people fed up with a system that maybe government should have addressed a long time ago.

[Ordie]

yes, the United States government has lost grasp of its purpose..due the wishes of its people. But now, when citizens start being fed up and taking lethal action, all the cries are out for the tin hat brigade. How ever, that crying you hear is not the cries for the tin hat brigade, it is the sounds of angry people fed up with a system that maybe government should have addressed a long time ago.

Huh...Huh...

Its the same crap I've been hearing from spoiled losers at a begging of each presidency from the left, right and center.

[Chulo]

The census is based on a head count not by sample.

The census includes everyone including non-citizens. (including the undocumented).

The census number determines the number of seats each state is allotted in the House of Representatives. The more people each state has, the more representatives. If the state shows a decrease in population, it will lose the number of seats in Congress.

The census also determines the number of Electoral College votes allotted to each state. Naturally the more people, the more votes.

The census also determines the appropriation of federal funds to each state.

Given the age of technology and access to vital statistical information, the information from the census through census tracts, can better determine population density and may aid cities to better manage land use and transportation planning, or target specific areas of concerns in terms of poverty levels.

Appalachia historically has been a poverty stricken area. If folks do not participate in the census, they are shooting themselves in the foot for the potential of getting federal aid, educational grants and possibly another voice in Congress.

If there is resistance to a head count census, it may lead to a call for sampling methodology.

Given the influx of immigrants to the southeast, I would not be surprised if states such as Georgia may get another seat in Congress and additional electoral college votes. But its all depends upon an accurate head count including the undocumented.

The GOP stands to gain in the southeast and southwest, only if they can count upon the undocumented to participate in the census.
I am not saying anything wrong is with the census or who (the Reds or Blues) is going to win, if you think that what i said is political and the murders that did think even know what they were doing, you are mistaken. I am pointing out that this area is is a dangerous area for those who are associated with the "Fed" in any way.

[Chulo]

I could understand if we were talking about the Zetas protecting their cocaine route in the Southwest. I find it hard to believe that some Billy with a meth lab is going to go so far as to hang a man to make a point.
This is some kook that has let his anger and imiagination get the best of him.
Look up Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, West Virginia, add drugs and ****y traps. You may find it hard to believe, but i have seen enough of National guard choppers with gunship escort roaming the back hills, and I am close enough to the local law enforcement to know about somethings that dont make it into the news.
Hanging/shooting feds is nothing new, look at what used to happen with the moonshiners and bootleggers.

[StinkyStreet]

quote

University of Pittsburgh sociologist Kathleen Blee, co-author of a book about Clay County, says that when she heard of Sparkman's death, she initially wondered whether he had stumbled across a marijuana plot.Pot growers seeking to avoid federal forfeiture statutes often plant their crops on national forest land and have even been known to ****y-trap plots with explosives and rattlesnakes."Like any poor county, people are engaged in a variety of revenue sources," she said. "Not all of them legal."Davis acknowledged Clay's "pretty wild history of a black market economy, a drug economy." He noted that Sparkman's death occurred at a time when marijuana producers are typically harvesting their crop."And so you have to be careful when you send some unsuspecting guy who's just trying to earn a buck to feed his family," he said. "Things can go bad really quickly."Although the Census Bureau could not immediately offer statistics on violence against its workers, such incidents are not unheard of.

[RxOnco]

Look up Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, West Virginia, add drugs and ****y traps. You may find it hard to believe, but i have seen enough of National guard choppers with gunship escort roaming the back hills, and I am close enough to the local law enforcement to know about somethings that dont make it into the news.
Hanging/shooting feds is nothing new, look at what used to happen with the moonshiners and bootleggers.

Didn't know it was that bad over there.

[Euroamerican]

Look up Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, West Virginia, add drugs and ****y traps. You may find it hard to believe, but i have seen enough of National guard choppers with gunship escort roaming the back hills, and I am close enough to the local law enforcement to know about somethings that dont make it into the news.
Hanging/shooting feds is nothing new, look at what used to happen with the moonshiners and bootleggers.

This has been reported in Idaho as well by an ING person who observed units in the boonies which were NOT ING . A fully loaded slick escorted by a gunship. Visiting Marines searching remote canyons, apparenlty looking for stuff.

[Karaahmetoglu]

Rest In Peace.

[Zoomie]

Apparently it was all setup/scam/suicide all along:

Census worker in Kentucky killed self, officials conclude

Bill Estep | Lexington Herald-Leader

last updated: November 24, 2009 04:35:18 PM
A U.S. Census worker whose death in a secluded Kentucky cemetery sparked worries about a backlash against the federal government killed himself but tried to make the death look like a homicide, authorities have concluded.
Bill Sparkman, 51, of London, Ky., might have tried to cover the manner of his death to preserve payments under life-insurance polices that he had taken out. The policies wouldn’t pay off if Sparkman committed suicide, state police Capt. Lisa Rudzinski said.
“We believe it was an intentional act on his part to take his own life,” said Rudzinski, who helped lead the investigation.
Sparkman’s **** body was found Sept. 12 by people visiting the cemetery. There was a rope around his neck tied to a tree, and he had what appeared to be the word “fed” written on his chest in black marker.
His census identification card was taped to his head.
The bizarre details of the death caused a firestorm of media coverage and widespread speculation on the Internet, including that someone angry at the federal government attacked Sparkman as he went door to door, gathering census information.
There has been some anti-census sentiment in the country this year, and Sparkman apparently tried to capitalize on that with his ruse.
If there had been no writing on his chest and his identification hadn’t been taped to him, police could have concluded more quickly that Sparkman’s death was a suicide, Rudzinski said.
Instead, it took considerably more investigation to rule out homicide. Police even analyzed the ink on Sparkman’s chest to see how the letters were applied, in order to determine whether it was more likely that someone else wrote on him or he wrote on himself.
Tests indicated that the letters were applied from the bottom to the top — not the way an assailant facing Sparkman would write them. Police concluded that Sparkman wrote on himself, Rudzinski said.
Ultimately, there was no evidence to point to murder, she said.
Tests results showed that there was no DNA other than Sparkman’s on the rag in his mouth or on another rag found near his body. Those results, which police received only recently, were a pivotal development.
Other evidence also pointed to suicide as the manner of Sparkman’s death, police said.
For instance, there was no evidence that Sparkman had struggled with anyone. There were no wounds on his body, Rudzinski said.
Tests ruled out any theory that he was drugged and unconscious when he was tied to the tree, making the lack of signs of a struggle more significant. Also, Sparkman’s glasses were taped to his head. The question that raises is why a killer would care whether Sparkman, who had poor vision, could see what was going on.
On the other hand, if Sparkman was writing on his chest or preparing to kill himself, it would matter that he could see.
And although it is true that Sparkman died of asphyxiation from the rope around his neck, he was not dangling from the tree the way people commonly perceive hanging, Rudzinski said.
His legs were bent at the knee and his knees were less than six inches off the ground, Rudzinski said.
Sparkman could have stood up, taken the pressure off his neck and not died.
Sparkman’s hands were bound, but loosely, allowing him to move them shoulder-width apart, Rudzinski said.
The significance of that is that Sparkman could have created by himself all the conditions found at the scene, such as tying the rope around his neck and putting a rag in his mouth, Rudzinski said.


Source (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/crime/story/79420.html)

[MaverickCowboy]

the liberals say the hillbilly cops are covering it up.

[seraosha]

My first impression on hearing the "he committed suicide" announcement was extreme skepticism...but after hearing about the details, it does look like it was a staged event. I'd be willing to bet there was another dignosis that his cancer was coming out of remission and that the supplimental insurance was needed asap.

Sucks.