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Sayeret
07-09-2004, 05:56 PM
Author claims bin Laden purchased 20 suitcase nukes in '98 from ex-KGB agents for $30 million


A book by an FBI consultant on international terrorism says Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida terrorist network purchased 20 suitcase nuclear weapons from former KGB agents in 1998 for $30 million.

The book,"Al Qaeda: Brotherhood of Terror," by Paul L. Williams, also says this deal was one of at least three in the last decade in which al-Qaida purchased small nuclear weapons or weapons-grade nuclear uranium.

Williams says bin Laden's search for nuclear weapons began in 1988 when he hired a team of five nuclear scientists from Turkmenistan. These were former employees at the atomic reactor in Iraq before it was destroyed by Israel, Williams says. The team's project was the development of a nuclear reactor that could be used "to transform a very small amount of material that could be placed in a package smaller than a backpack."

"By 1990 bin Laden had hired hundreds of atomic scientists from the former Soviet Union for $2,000 a month – an amount far greater that their wages in the former Soviet republics," Williams writes. "They worked in a highly sophisticated and well-fortified laboratory in Kandahar, Afghanistan."

This work continued throughout the 1990s, the author says.

In 1993, according to the book, Jamal Ahmed al-Fadl, a bin Laden agent who turned into a Central Intelligence Agency source, purchased for al-Qaida a cylinder of weapons-grade uranium from a former Sudanese government minister who represented businessmen from South Africa. The purchase price was $1.5 million and the uranium was tested in Cyprus and transported to Afghanistan.

Al-Fadl reported that, at the time of this transfer, al-Qaida was already working on a deal for suitcase nukes developed for the KGB.

Williams says the Russian Mafia made another mysterious deal with "Afghani Arabs" in search of nuclear weapons in 1996. The Russians who sold the material now live in New York.

Then again in 1998, Mamdouh Mahmud Salim was arrested in Munich and charged with acting as an al-Qaida agent to purchase highly enriched uranium from a German laboratory.

That same year, according to Williams, bin Laden succeeded in buying the 20 suitcase nukes from Chechen Mafia figures, including former KGB agents. The $30 million deal was partly cash and partly heroin with a street value of $700 million.

"After the devices were obtained, they were placed in the hands of Arab nuclear scientists who, federal sources say, 'were probably trained at American universities,'" says Williams.

Though the devices were designed only to be operated by Soviet SPETZNAZ personnel, or special forces, al-Qaida scientists came up with a way of hot-wiring the bombs to the bodies of would-be martyrs, according to the book.

Suitcase nukes are not really suitcases at all, but suitcase-size nuclear devices. The weapons can be fired from grenade or rocket launchers or detonated by timers. A bomb placed in the center of a metropolitan area would be capable of instantly killing hundreds of thousands and exposing millions of others to lethal radiation.

Yossef Bodansky, author of "Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War on America" and the U.S. Congress' top terrorism expert, concurs that bin Laden has already succeeded in purchasing suitcase nukes. Former Russian security chief Alexander Lebed also testified to Congress that 40 nuclear suitcases disappeared from the Russian arsenal after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Williams quotes an anonymous federal official as saying: "The question isn't whether bin Laden has nuclear weapons, it's when he will try to use them."

In addition to the suitcase nukes, Williams reports that al-Qaida has also obtained chemical weapons from North Korea and Iraq. Williams says the FBI confirmed to him that Saddam Hussein provided bin Laden with a "gift" of anthrax spores.

Williams says al-Qaida also includes in its arsenal plague viruses, including ebola and salmonella, from the former Soviet Union and Iraq, samples of botulism biotoxin from the Czech Republic, and sarin from Iraq and North Korea.

oldsoak
07-09-2004, 06:00 PM
Do the Israeli secret service bods reckon this might have any substance to it ?

Sayeret
07-09-2004, 06:04 PM
I'm not sure I believe a author who wrote a book about this said that Mossd knew but I can't say how accurate it was.

5jumpchump
07-09-2004, 06:21 PM
What if all 20 bombs went off in each country supporting Iraq ?
What do you think the worlds response would be ?

Flagg
07-09-2004, 06:25 PM
"By 1990 bin Laden had hired hundreds of atomic scientists from the former Soviet Union for $2,000 a month – an amount far greater that their wages in the former Soviet republics," Williams writes. "They worked in a highly sophisticated and well-fortified laboratory in Kandahar, Afghanistan."

Think about it.....hundreds of foreign scientists/technicians, living/working in a foreign country/culture hostile to their own nation after a devastating war.......the attrition would be HUGE.....and people would talk over 15 years......and the only thing in the public domain is the word of one journo with suspect creds.

I don't believe it......at all

Pooga
07-09-2004, 06:31 PM
Well, then we're all dead, so why worry about it (knock on wood)?

Sayeret
07-09-2004, 06:33 PM
Think about it.....hundreds of foreign scientists/technicians, living/working in a foreign country/culture hostile to their own nation after a devastating war.......the attrition would be HUGE.....and people would talk over 15 years......and the only thing in the public domain is the word of one journo with suspect creds.

To tell you the truth I'm actually pretty skeptical of this report. If the Al Qaeda had 20 nuclear suitcases they would've used at least one of them by now. Also I remember hearing about how in Afghanistan some American soldiers found video tapes of the Al Qaeda testing different chemical weapons on animals. So I think that the Al Qaeda might have some kind of chemical weapons but I doubt they have any nuclear weapons.

Pooga
07-09-2004, 06:38 PM
If the Al Qaeda had 20 nuclear suitcases they would've used at least one of them by now.

You'd think so, but maybe they're making their escape routes (not literally). It seems they pretty much get to choose the time and place. That's why going after them with military force is good. It distracts them and kills a few.

Midtown
07-09-2004, 06:38 PM
AQ Sucks, ****em EM

Sayeret
07-09-2004, 06:44 PM
You'd think so, but maybe they're making their escape routes (not literally). It seems they pretty much get to choose the time and place.

Another thing kind of odd is it sounds like Al Qaeda got all the weapons too easily. Like why aern't they still trying to get more of them? Why would they only want twenty?

Minjin
07-09-2004, 06:48 PM
Don't you think they would have used at least one if they had 20 of em? Sounds fishy to me.

usa320
07-09-2004, 06:48 PM
HORSE****.

If they bought nukes in the early 90's they would have used at least one by now.

THe second they have one they will use it...hence the importance of premption.

szr
07-09-2004, 07:36 PM
9/11 would have been a completely different kind of attack if this were true.

ShadowNeo
07-09-2004, 07:38 PM
Isn't $30mil a little cheap for suitcase nukes?

Would have thought they'd cost a little more...

Nizark
07-09-2004, 07:58 PM
the UN and US already discredited this report about a year after it broke.

Mark Sman
07-09-2004, 08:09 PM
"BS meter is off the scale sir!"
"Whats the reading on the selloutagraph?"

Don't think I'm going to lose any . . . zzzzzzzzzzzz

Pooga
07-09-2004, 09:44 PM
http://www.startreksite.com/crews/tuvok.jpg

Captain, it appears I have sharted in my pants for a reason that has inevitabley turned out to be no good.

aartamen
07-10-2004, 01:07 AM
The Russians who sold the material now live in New York.


That's true. I know them. And they are very sorry.


rofl

Pandy
07-10-2004, 02:35 AM
What if all 20 bombs went off in each country supporting Iraq ?
What do you think the worlds response would be ?

I think they're will be lots and lots of smoking glass fields around the world, huh? ;)