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CG51
09-25-2009, 07:02 PM
The US is too dependent on Japan and China buying up the country's debt and could face severe economic problems if that stops, Tiger Management founder and chairman Julian Robertson told CNBC.

"It's almost Armageddon if the Japanese and Chinese don't buy our debt,” Robertson said in an interview. "I don't know where we could get the money. I think we've let ourselves get in a terrible situation and I think we ought to try and get out of it."

Robertson said inflation is a big risk if foreign countries were to stop buying bonds.


“If the Chinese and Japanese stop buying our bonds, we could easily see [inflation] go to 15 to 20 percent,” he said. “It's not a question of the economy. It's a question of who will lend us the money if they don't. Imagine us getting ourselves in a situation where we're totally dependent on those two countries. It's crazy.”

Watch the Interview With Julian Robertson (Pt. 2) (http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1275003983&play=1)
Slideshow: The Biggest Holders of US Government Debt (http://www.cnbc.com/id/29880401/)
Robertson said while he doesn’t think the Chinese will stop buying US bonds, the Japanese may eventually be forced to sell some of their long-term bonds.

“That's much worse than not buying,” he said. “The other thing is, they're buying almost exclusively short-term debt. And that's what we are offering, because we can't sell the long-term debt. And you know, the history has been that people who borrow short term really get burned.”

The only way to avoid the problem, he said, is to "grow and save our way out of it."

"The U.S. has to quit spending, cut back, start saving, and scale backward," Robertson said. "Until that happens, I don't think we're anywhere near out of the woods.”

Robertson is not very optimistic about the short-term.
“We're in for some real rough sledding,” he said. “ I really do think the recession is at least temporarily over. But we haven't addressed so many of our problems and we are borrowing so much money that we can't possibly pay it back, unless the Chinese and Japanese buy our bonds.”


http://www.cnbc.com/id/33004753

stuntman
09-25-2009, 07:34 PM
give me a break. The tittle is misleading.

CG51
09-25-2009, 08:09 PM
give me a break. The tittle is misleading.

It's the title of the article from that new site.

WEEP EM MAN IT'S AMERICA!

stuntman
09-25-2009, 08:13 PM
It's the title of the article from that new site.

WEEP EM MAN IT'S AMERICA!

The article may be somewhat on the money but Armageddon? I just felt the title (aka tittle lol) was a little much. The article is fine..



WEEP EM MAN IT'S AMERICA!

Always...

vryhpyammoadded
09-26-2009, 12:37 AM
Sweet, lets get it on!

FlintHillBilly
09-26-2009, 12:07 PM
We have nothing to worry about. Obama is here to save America ;)

bono
09-26-2009, 01:38 PM
I propose some type of qualifying certification for journalists cause these are some of the stupidest people on earth.

1. You export to US
2. You invoice in USD
3. Buyer pays you USD for goods received
4. Now you have USD which you can't use up all
5. Meaning you are left with USD that needs to be parked somewhere safe and get some interest on it.
6. T-Bills, US Govt. Bonds are some of the safest investments that you can buy with USD
7. You buy US bonds, which is another word for debt or borrowing by the US.

In case of China it would also get USD from most other importers of its goods such Zambia and India and South Africa etc. All those dollars will also go toward buying US Bonds.

China could try invoicing in Yuan, however, in that case importers will have to pay in Yuan, which they will buy from banks, that will increase demand for Yuan, which will make Yuan rise, which will make China's exports expensive relative to other currencies. So that option is out.

Unless China finds another currency as strong as safe as USD or another importer that is as large as US, its stuck with buying US bonds.

So chill!!