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lostlamb
09-28-2009, 05:35 AM
i just read a book review in chinese about this book,then i find the english one below.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/reed/reed129.html


Deer Hunting With Jesus


by Fred Reed (http://www.fredoneverything.net/)


Long ago, having had to write more book reviews than I wanted, I decided that I would rather have pile surgery by an ocelot than write another. Then I got an advance copy of Deer Hunting with Jesus (http://www.amazon.com/Deer-Hunting-Jesus-Dispatches-Americas/dp/030733936X/lewrockwell/), by Joe Bageant (http://bageant.typepad.com/), and realized that I had to come out of retirement. It’s, you know, like noblesse oblige. Here goes.

Bageant is a redneck, and his book is about rednecks, who are a huge, sprawling class of people found everywhere but mostly invisible. They aren’t what people think they are. (Though, given that a strange mixture of folk read this column, I’d better be careful with generalizations.) They actually have lives, and problems, and stories. They can be amusing, admirable, exasperating, and pathetic. Mostly nobody cares. If you truly are interested in how America works, in what’s out there down the side roads, shell out the lousy $16.50 and read the sucker.

Now, quickly before I lose all my readers: Two things Deer Hunting isn’t. First, although Bageant has a sense of humor, and doesn’t hide it well, the book is not – is not at all – the sort of cutesy-phony redneck wit that floats around the internet (“You know you are a redneck if you have a ’54 Merc on blocks outside your trailer….”) True, a certain folk wisdom shines through in parts. ("Things I have learned at Burt's Tavern: (1) Never shack up with a divorced woman who is two house payments behind, and swears you are the best *** she ever had. (2) Never eat cocktail weenies out of the urinal, no matter how big the bet gets.") But this is salad dressing. The book is dead serious.

Second, it certainly is not academic sociology, which reads like a truss ad but without the insight and grace. The guy is very sharp and well read and he’s been around. He spent the Vietnam years throwing airplanes off an aircraft carrier, and later edited Military History magazine. Further, he is an authority on bars, hunting, lousy jobs, and misery. He has been there.

Now, politics. Bageant is in favor of universal health care, which to conservatives is worse than finding half a bull roach in your egg-burger. We’ve all heard the tales of welfare queens and exploitation of the dread entitlements by shiftless parasites who breed like Renaissance popes at public expense. Some of that exists, chiefly in cities. Food stamps regularly get turned into drug-and-booze money. All sorts of swindles exist, chiefly in cities.

But the people Bageant writes about don’t fit this story. They are folk who worked all their lives, worked hard for **** wages at stultifying jobs and always showed up. And now, at the ends of their lives, they’ve got nothing. Well, they've got diabetes, which I guess is something. And maybe congestive heart failure and a pittance of social security. Know what pharmaceuticals cost? The choice comes to pills or heating oil.

It ain’t right.

Mostly he writes about Winchester, Virginia, where he grew up and now lives again. But Winchester is pretty much anywhere and everywhere. You just don’t see it. Drive a few miles south of DC on Route 301 in Maryland and you come to Waldorf. There, in the Wigwam, a down-demographic girly bar, you see (or did see; it’s been years) the dump truck drivers with baseball hats on backwards and triceps flapping like water balloons. Except very few see them. Rednecks. They hoot and holler and chaff with the girls and probably aren’t who your mother wanted you to play with.

You don’t see that these guys work as “independent contractors,” meaning no retirement or benefits, at sorry wages, and live a paycheck or two away from nothing, in crumbling fifth-rate modular homes or trailers that lose value instead of gaining it. When they’re thirty and healthy, it’s not bad. It’s at the end that things get rough, or when someone gets sick.

Rednecks, as Bageant explains in detail, are dumber than dirt. They’re not bad people. You can heist a brew with them and talk about NASCAR and gobble wings and, with a little effort, come away liking them. But they don’t know squat. They are easily suckered by real-estate scammers and corporate con artists. The level of genuine illiteracy in America is much higher than most think. Add people who can barely read, and therefore don’t, and have never read a book in their lives, and you get a disconcerting number. In thousands of Winchesters, this is the norm.

Everything comes from television, mostly Fox News, and from Rush Limbaugh. They don’t have passports, may not know what one is, and seldom leave the county where they were born.

Bageant knows what he is talking about. I know he does because I grew up mostly in small Southern towns and half-empty counties, including King George County, Virginia, a few hours from Winchester. Same people. I dated the girls and got drunk with the boys and saw how they lived. Those people worked. My best girlfriend in high school got up at four in the morning to help her father pull crab pots on the Potomac. She was pretty as any picture could hope to be, even with lots of imagination and on acid, but she could have thrown a Volkswagen over a four-storey building. They worked.

The thing is that people who went to college mostly don’t know about rednecks, or how many there are, or why they do what they do. What they think they know is usually wrong. I once talked to a psychologist from some semi-Ivy school and the subject of guns came up. She immediately launched into gunsaretokillpeoplegunsaretokillpeople, essentially pre-recorded. “Why else would anyone want guns, except to kill people?”

I mentioned hunting, and it bounced off. No response, just didn’t register. She was intelligent and not mean-spirited, but didn’t know that to Bageant’s people, to my high-school classmates, a hundred pounds of dressed deer meat meant eating decently. She thought guns were to kill people because in cities, all she knew, that’s what the urban savages used them for. Fact is, redneckdom is heavily armed and neither Bageant nor I can remember anyone being shot, purposefully or accidentally. She wouldn’t have believed it. Guns are to kill people.

And my god, the born-again evangelical Christians who are waiting to be sucked up by the Rapture as if by a god-powered Hoovermatic vacuum cleaner. They are serious as melanoma and could give any Muslim sect known a run for its extremism money. I’m running out of space, but Bageant knows them by their first names, grew up with them, and doesn’t chrome-plate them to make them seem shinier than they are. The country a lot of people live in isn’t the one they think they live in.

Worth a read. Funny, thought-provoking and, though it creeps up on you, profound. Cheap, too.







June 21, 2007

Fred Reed is author of Nekkid in Austin: Drop Your Inner Child Down a Well (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0595237134/lewrockwell/) and the just-published A Brass Pole in Bangkok: A Thing I Aspire to Be (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/059539390X/qid=1152133065/sr=1-12/ref=sr_1_12/104-8208774-0223107?/lewrockwell/). Visit his blog (http://www.fredoneverything.net/).

California Joe
09-28-2009, 08:44 AM
Spot on.

Christ, I actually lived in Waldorf, Maryland, I drew the logo for the ***** bars he mentioned...and I spent 15 years in King George, Virginia...

seraosha
09-28-2009, 10:41 AM
Spot on.

Christ, I actually lived in Waldorf, Maryland, I drew the logo for the ***** bars he mentioned...and I spent 15 years in King George, Virginia...

You drew a logo for a ***** bar?
Ok, that's just cool.

SBL
09-28-2009, 10:46 AM
Spot on.

Christ, I actually lived in Waldorf, Maryland, I drew the logo for the ***** bars he mentioned...and I spent 15 years in King George, Virginia...
Haha 'The Dorf'.

Eztyga
09-28-2009, 10:51 AM
Sniper Jesus?

Hollis
09-28-2009, 11:09 AM
Sniper Jesus?


Maybe more NASCAR Jesus who hunts between circuits.

"Obviously my father wanted deer to be hunted, after all he made them out of meat."

California Joe
09-28-2009, 01:42 PM
You drew a logo for a ***** bar?
Ok, that's just cool.

Rebs Fireplace
The Playhouse Lounge
Vamps, which also included Beaver Liquors Drive Thru...

:)

Edit, here's the original sketch for their T shirts at one joint...Well what fit on my scanner, you get the idea...

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff212/rghayes40/Playhouse.jpg

Dominique
09-28-2009, 02:37 PM
This thread is worthless without pictures, so let's get cracking and track down some pics of the employees of these establishments. ;)

seraosha
09-28-2009, 02:49 PM
That is some ****tastic fontwork right there.
(Yeah, the multimedia degree that I'm still paying for allows me to appreciate the font and arched layout more than the bewbs...well, on paper anyway)

And I'm with Dom on this...we need pics of the place to fully appreciate the work...lets see the ladies in question, do a little expose`.

2495
09-28-2009, 03:02 PM
Well, the bars called Choo Choo's - that'll help with looking for the pics...p-)

This is Sable and she works at Choo Choos according to her myspace blog.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/685/choochoo.jpg

MaverickCowboy
09-28-2009, 04:01 PM
i like the Ivy-leagur' GUNARETOKILLPEPLE

commanding
09-28-2009, 04:08 PM
Rebs Fireplace
The Playhouse Lounge
Vamps, which also included Beaver Liquors Drive Thru...

:)

Edit, here's the original sketch for their T shirts at one joint...Well what fit on my scanner, you get the idea...

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff212/rghayes40/Playhouse.jpg
Well holy hell CJ, I have a new appreciation for your talent, and here I just thought you were a clever wordsmith.
Outstanding, and that is from a guy who was a draftsman for 41 years.

California Joe
09-28-2009, 04:20 PM
Yeah, the bars I'm talking about don't even exist anymore that I know of, and I'm pretty sure pics would be rather scary. Hell, back then we had to draw all of the lettering by hand. I couldn't even use a computer then...

The girls in Rebs were the types with fresh tats, still all bloody and bandaged. It was right next door to a fish and crab market which always cracked me up due to the telltale odor... It used to burn down every couple of years, I'm assuming it was well insured.

The Playhouse was slightly better but not much, and the girls dug that I drew their logo. p-) Originally the girls on the shirt didn't have tops on...

Vamps/Beaver Liquors logo was a **** girl riding a giant version of the Rolling Stones tongue. I can't find a coupy of that drawing. Real classy joint...

Flagg
09-28-2009, 04:27 PM
Spot on.

Christ, I actually lived in Waldorf, Maryland, I drew the logo for the ***** bars he mentioned...and I spent 15 years in King George, Virginia...

I found Bageant about 3 years ago...he's got some good stuff.

Speaking of which, your talents never cease to amaze CJ

California Joe
09-28-2009, 04:34 PM
By the way, these areas that he's talking about are also fiercely patriotic, are also home to a good many military personnel as well as tons of engineers and scientists due to the close proximity to Indian Head NSWC and Dahlgren NSWC and tenant commands. Many of the locals are 5th and 6th generation explosives workers and take great pride in supporting the warfighters. The streets on those bases are named after their family members and workers killed in explosions while producing everything from black powder to propellants to 2.75 rockets...

Although, Waldorf is to be blamed for that sh*tty Good Charlotte band...

commanding
09-28-2009, 04:45 PM
..... It was right next door to a fish and crab market which always cracked me up due to the telltale odor..

...reminds me of the line in the movie "Platoon" where they are burning the sh1t cans and the black guy (Keith David) with the gold tooth is talking about home and says ...."smell that pu$$y"

commanding
09-28-2009, 04:49 PM
i just read a book review in chinese about this book,then i find the english one below.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/reed/reed129.html
this really sounds like an interesting read....I may have to hunt a copy down. most of these guys are very patriotic, and down to earth folks.
check that, just ordered a copy. looks like a great read. thanks for the review lostlamb

California Joe
09-28-2009, 05:07 PM
Yeah, I think I'm going to order a copy too. I know these people, they aren't a helluva lot different from the people I grew up with and currently live with in the boonies in Vermont. Except up here their grand daddies didn't have a box under the bed with a "sheetlike" costume in it that they pulled out once a month to go to a "meeting"...that was said to me by my old boss, who lived his whole life in King George County, about his grandfather.

Hollis
09-28-2009, 05:11 PM
Maybe the hard working rural Chinese can identify with their American redneck cousins.

commanding
09-28-2009, 05:13 PM
Yeah, I think I'm going to order a copy too. I know these people, they aren't a helluva lot different from the people I grew up with and currently live with in the boonies in Vermont. Except up here their grand daddies didn't have a box under the bed with a "sheetlike" costume in it that they pulled out once a month to go to a "meeting"...that was said to me by my old boss, who lived his whole life in King George County, about his grandfather.
my great grandfather was a member of the klan in the late teens, and my great grandmother was a member of the 'ladies auxillary" of same, course they were members of the "oddfellows", rebecca lodge, woodment of world and every other stinkin lodge there was...wasn't any televison or even radio back then....they only had a phonograph (hand cranked).
their klan hall was blown up with dynamite in 1922. my great grandparents lived only 2 blocks from the brick klan hall. things change a lot in a century.

commanding
09-28-2009, 05:17 PM
Maybe the hard working rural Chinese can identify with their American redneck cousins.


http://i34.tinypic.com/v3hlqv.jpg

Flagg
09-28-2009, 05:34 PM
Maybe the hard working rural Chinese can identify with their American redneck cousins.

VERY good point.

China's going through some very substantial and volatile growth pains in it's industrialization.....China's "puberty" isn't going to be fun for many in the coming decade.

Same goes for the US as it slowly and painfully finds it's way towards re-industrialization and learns how to make sh!t again.......the US's "70 is the new 50" isn't going to be fun for many in the coming decade.

At the end of the day, both countries will need to rely VERY heavily on the peasants/hillbillies when we come out the @ss end of this financial black hole when we realize we need to actually make stuff with both our hands and our minds.

Showponies are pretty to look at, but donkeys always do the hard yards.

California Joe
09-28-2009, 05:36 PM
Judging by the reviews on Amazon about this book I'm wishing we could make it required reading for everyone that posts in the Politics and Rants section about guns or politics in this country...It might help everyone find some common ground.

Flounder
09-28-2009, 06:50 PM
Good book. Really enjoyed his writing style.