Foreign (non-US) War Movies

[OzMan]

I've seen some pretty good war movies, and I was wondering if anyone knew any good movies about foreign units, or foreign movies about war. About the only one I've seen is the french movie "Beau Travail - Beautiful Work". It's a fictional story about the modern French Foreign Legion in Djibuti (SP?). It's all in subtitles but it seemed like a pretty good movie, as far as accuracy, etc. The only reason I watched it was because I'm learning French and it was a war movie on Sundance Channel. Has anyone seen Beau Travail, or recommend any others?

And does anyone know the name of the movie about Operation Nimrod (SAS raid on Iranian Embassy, London, 1980)? I think it's "The Final Option", but I'm not sure.

[hood]

I'm sure I can think of at least one other if I stew a bit, but this one comes to mind and was mentioned in other threads.. I really liked this one, independent of how much was real or exagerated.

Bravo Two Zero - http://us.imdb.com/Title?0120617

and I'm cheating with this one because it's not foreign, but it doesn't cover US forces.. but Russians in Afghanistan.

The Beast - http://us.imdb.com/Title?0094716

[Silverado]

Das Boot Probably one of the best anti-war films ever made. Forget U571 which was absolute bull****, Hollywood drivel from beginning to end.

Stalingrad Like Das Boot Stalingrad is another film that deals with the WWII from a German perspective.

Gallipoli To this day this film remains by far in the way the best thing Mel Gibson has ever done IMHO.

The Odd Angry Shot A film about the SASR in Vietnam. No glamour, or false celuloid heroics, just a little film made back in 1979 on a shoe-string budget that turned out to be surpisingly good.

[Chops]

The Odd Angry Shot is a classic I agree Silverado. Kennedy was a funny guy in his time. Plus a pretty realistic (for the most part) look at SASR in RVN. Top little flick.

Rgds

Chops

[Kitsune]

"Das Boot" would be my also my recommendation. Its really a classic. Dierected by Wolfgang Petersen. There is a VERY good DVD version available... with especially great sound.
"Stalingrad" is not my favorite... to depressing. Yeah ok was tobe expected.
Seen "Enemy at the Gates"? French dierector... american main actors... filmed in germany. Plot has never happened (Based on a Red Army propaganda sham) but i liked it.


Two british ones (both are oldies and black and white so be warned):

"Desert Fox" with James Mason. A fair and just film about E. Rommel...
"Sink the Bismarck" (DVD version coming out this march). Excellent (and fair) movie about one of the mightiest battle ship of the war... and its demise. Well done.

And... ahem... apropos "oldies". Seen "Bridge at the River Kwai"? (I hope so... shame on You if not !!!) There an Xellent DVD version available... GREAT SOUND!!!

Okok I stop... ;)

[Silverado]

Breaker Morant Forgot to include this film in my original post which can be considered as an unfortunate oversight as it is possibly the finest of the lot IMHO. Set during the Boer War it remains a timeless study of political intervention, the rules of engagement, and the manner in which soldiers on the ground interpret these rules that were set down by senior staff officers and politicians from the calm and security of the Gentelman's lounge.

[Ichhabe]

Oh, all the movies u guys miss cause u wount read subtitles;

The Winter War: "The internationally acclaimed Finnish movie, based on Antti Tuuri's book Talvisota, is the first film about the epic struggle by the Finnish people against the invading Soviet army in 1939-40. For 105 days, the tenacious Finnish soldiers fought a brutal war against an overwhelming enemy to preserve their country's independence. Finland, 1989, Color, 125 minutes, Finnish dialogue, English subtitles."
This movie is a MUST SEE. Belive me.



The Boys and the War: This is an Argentinian movie about 18 year old boys send to the Falklands to take part in the occupancy of the island. it shows the Argentinian version made by those who was against that war and the madness of the Argentinian junta sending them there.

Yom Kippur: Israeli fim about that war. This isnt exactly a "war movie", but a movie about the war. Not so many battle scenes, but for us who like history, and want to see how the lower level experienced it, I'll recomend it.

Come and See:"A crowning achievement of the 1980's Soviet Cinema revived in 2001 to great acclaim, COME AND SEE is perhaps the ultimate WW2 film. With haunting imagery, this stark testimonial to the madness and grief of war recounts the nightmarish journeys of an adolescent boy during the Nazi occupation of Byelorussia. USSR, 1985, Color, 142 minutes, Russian with English subtitles."
The scene where they cross cut between the russian village anf the German Sonderabteilung approaching it, is breathtaking. It is like a swarm of Grasshoppers. Also "a must see".


No Mans Land: This is a Bosnian film about the war on Balcan. 3 men are cought between the Serb and the Muslim lines. One of them has a mine beneath him. I say no more. Two thumbs and one big toe up for that one.

And UK has made some good movies about the Falkland War. One is called Tumbledown. And of course I'm now at the stage at night were I can't remember nothing. Another brit movie is about the 48 hours prior ti the attack on the Falklands. But I can not remember the title. Darn!

[Sirpad]

There are few israely movies, but other than "Kippur" and "Cup finalle" none of them saw international screenings.

Kippur - as said, this movie shows the war from the bottom. Based on the director's memmories, it is about acouple of soldiers that lose their reserve recon unit at the begining of the war, and join MEDEVAC bird's crew to help rescue wounded from the front. Generaly, the 1973 Kippur war is considered to be israel's pearl harbour (with much harder results).

Cup finalle - Based on true story, it tells a story of two IDF soldiers taken POW near the front line. Their captors take them on a hike toward beirut, and the emphasis is on the POWs (one dies early) and the captor's shared interest in soccer - with 1982's world cup finalle in the background.

Two fingers out of syda - based on IDF internal movie, it shows an army unit during the end period of the lebanon war (1985), criticising morrale issues like the behaviour toward local civilians and accidental killing of a child.

One of ours - MP's CID officers investigate a death of a palestinian terrorist caught after killing an officer at the paratrooper's recon unit base. The story becomes complicated when it appears that the CID investigator began the recon unit's training cycle, and left after a harsh fight with his teammates. It soon becomes obvious that the terrorist was actualy murdered by someone from the unit during an interogation.

The funny thing is that many of the israely war movies actualy bring up some hard questions like "Is the war worthy?", "Are we doing the right thing?", and so on. There are'nt realy any rambo-like movies made in israel, probbably for the obvious reason that under constant war nobody realy feels like laughing about it...

[k_o_g]

Bravo two zero from UK, it is about the SAS in the gulf war,
it is edited from a book written by one of the SAS in the incident but i forgets the name of the book.

[Vance]

The book was also called Bravo Two Zero

[Ryan94]

There is another book called "the one that got away", it´s from Chris Ryan and he was one part of the bravo two zero squad and he walked about 300k´s to Syria... good book...

Cu, David

[Adam Wilhelm]

Contact: about british paratrooper in N.I.

Tumbledown: a british 1/Lt from Scots Guards who got a headshot in Falklands.

Das Boot: nuff said.

Unknown soldier by Väinö Linna, about Finlands continuation war against the Soviet

[Trigger]

Gallipoli, Das Boot, both outstanding!
There was an older, lower budget WW2 movie with Mel Gibson called 'Attack Force Z' about the early ANZAC special forces. I thought it was pretty good. It's been a long time since I last saw it, but 'The Final Option' had some good action sequences based on Operation Nimrod.

[...]

Gideon's Sword, I believe this is the title and I believe it is based on a book called the Avengers. The movie is alright but the book is very intresting( is not that always the case?).Though not a military movie per say (it portrays the Mossad) it shows a kidon team hunting the Munich Olympic terrorists. Maybe someone could confirm the title of the book or movie I am not 100% on either.


http://www.rense.com/general32/ruth.htm

[Minjin]

Eagle 1-1, that movie is in fact called "Final Option" and it is pretty good. I haven't seen too many of the others listed, but they are on my "to do" list.

[Trigger]

It was called 'Sword of Gideon' I believe it was a made for HBO film. Mid 80s I think. Starring Steven Bauer.

[OzMan]

I'm pretty sure that Enemy at the Gates was based on a true story. But Hollywood really screwed it up. Those two snipers were real people. The German sniper never hung that kid and the Russian killed the German from a sniper's distance. Both snipers were in that railyard, both in their own respective nests a few hundred yards apart. The Russian had a good idea of where the German was, took off his glove, stuck it on a metal hangar and exposed it. The German sniper shot the glove, and the Russian set up on the muzzle flash, and returned fire. One shot, one kill. As usual, Hollywood blew it.

[Trigger]

A must read is 'War of the Rats'. Way cool book about the battle of Stalingrad and the sniper duels there.

[Kitsune]

Well... Eagle, I have heard that story...
The Soviet propaganda during Stalingrad. The soviet sniper "Zaitsev" really existed. The german one, a man called "König" but sometimes "Thorwald" was allegedly a german supersniper kind of "the best they have" and head of a german sniper school. That is what the soviets stated. But there was no famous sniper with that name and there is no leader of a sniperschool documented who had one of those names. (And believe if he existed there would be documents... Germany really has a bureaucracy second to none :roll:)
It was in fact a soviet propaganda sham that should give hope to the soviet troops with the russian hero sniper being victorious over the best sniper the enemy had (remember at that time the germans had the russian torn to pieces whenver they had met and the outcome of the fight in stalingrad was still in doubt... it became that imprtant because here the germans where beaten for the first time). and in the end this nice story found its way to some badly researched history book and... so on. But real research showed that there is no truth to it.
Still I like the movie. Its fiction of course, and the germans are the evil ones as usual. But its not that unfair like for example "Saving Private Ryan" (germans are evil, cowardly and ugly) or especially "U 571" (germans are evil, cowardly, ugly and incapable). Of course he hangs the kid (he is german after all).
But at least he can shoot.

[OzMan]

Dammit! Sorry. I don' t do much research about WWII (I know I should). And I've heard of the book "War of the Rats" and I assumed (another mistake) that it was true. Also saw it on the History Channel. They had an hour long show about it. But I guess I should do some research next time. My research is about 99% counter-terrorism, so WWII doesn't exactly fit the profile to me. And whenever I do research WWII, I drown in it. :|

[OzMan]

And has anyone seen the documentary "One Day in September", about the crisis at the 1972 Munich Olympics? Narrated by Michael Douglas, but I thought it was awesome. Great re-creations (some computer generated) and a lot of the old ABC Sports/News footage. Pretty good soundtrack, too. Gives a lot of different perspectives. Shows some interviews with fellow athletes from around the world, people who were at the scene, and recent interviews with even one of the surviving terrorists. Some gruesome photos of the dead terrorists and athletes, though.

Also, another movie I just remembered was "Thunderbolt", about Entebbe. Low-budget '80s movie, and not outstanding, but pretty good all the more. :D

[StarvingStudent47]

Seen "Enemy at the Gates"? French dierector... american main actors... filmed in germany. Plot has never happened (Based on a Red Army propaganda sham) but i liked it.

Not true. Though some details were changed (Tanya Chernova was a sniper, not a translator, in real life; there was no love triangle with Danilov in real life), Vasili Zaitsev was a real sniper who did get ~350 kills, including Major Koenig (a German sniper sent to kill him).

Read the book Enemy at the Gates: The Battle for Stalingrad by William Craig. It is for the Battle of Stalingrad what Mark Bowden's Black Hawk Down was for the Mogadishu operation. It's a very serious academic text, based on interviews with hundreds of survivors from both sides, and William Craig is neither a Soviet nor a Communist who would just "tow the party line."

Incidentally, the 15-year-old spy (Sasha Filipov) was real, and he was hung, but it wasn't the sniper who did it. Completely unrelated part of the siege.

[StarvingStudent47]

As for foreign war movies, it's hard to beat A Bridge Too Far starring Sean Connery, about a failed British paratrooper expedition in World War II.

And Battleship Potemkin, a 1920s silent film from the Soviet Union, is absolutely stunning. It's not the most true-to-life, because it's looking at the 1905 revolution through Lenin-tinted goggles, but the cinematography is world-class, and all the battleships are real (Lenin approved of the message of the movie, and granted Eisenstein use of the Red Navy for filming).

I've never seen a Japanese film Grave of the Fireflies, but I've been meaning to. It's about the atomic bombing of Hiroshima--from the perspective of the people on the ground. I've heard its horrifically depressing, but good.

[Sir Nob]

That movie THE FINAL OPTION is also known as WHO DARES WINS, if anyones having trouble finding it. Its crap.

[Kitsune]

Starving Student...
I still do not agree with You that the sniper duel of Stalingrad was true. It is known that there are some history books stating this too but the reasoning of my sources (hehe... sounds good) is that if their had been a Major König (or Koenig, or even Thorwald) and he was THAT supersniper guy and head of a famous sniper school... Why are there no documents? A conspiracy? Hmmm... And why does no one remember him? But ok... I was not there so...

But I DO with You on "A bridge to far".
Great Movie. It is about the operation "Market Garden". Great Actors: Sean Connery, Robert Redford, Gene Hackman...
On the german side are Maximilian Shell, and Hardy Krüger. The german soldiers are the usual faceless imperial stormtroopers though. But in all other instances GREAT. EPIC. So if You have not seen that one yet... get it!

[StarvingStudent47]

Kitsune--I don't know what to tell you besides go to your local library/bookstore and pick up Enemy at the Gates: The Battle for Stalingrad by William Craig. It's much easier to find now that a movie by the same name was found. He's a history professor and a legitimate researcher, and I think he provides notes for all his sources. That should answer your question. I don't own the book (I got it from a library myself), so I can't look up the answer directly.

[a. enders]

Silverado,is that Stalingrad the one with the seargeant with the wooden/metal hand or something?Only saw a little,firefights were well done.
Eagle 1-1,yeah.The way the "final"fight happened would have been way cooler than what that movie tried.

[Kitsune]

Yeah Eagle... I have seen the documentary on the incident in the 1972 Olympics in Munich too. Very well made.
How the bavarian police handled that one is really a schoolbook case.
How NOT to do it. I don't think they left a mistake out.

[Nachtschleicher]

I think the movie "Shot Through the Heat" is a foreign film, and it's a pretty good one about snipers.

It's about two boyhood friends, who grow up closer than brothers. They are tied together by their world class competition rifle marksmanship. One is a Serb and the other a Muslim, at first their lives are knitted together by their shared sport and friendship.

Soon, events in former-Yugoslav overtake them. They become thrust into the Bosnia fighting on opposite sides in and around Sarajevo. Inevitably, they must face one another with their rifles. (description has been borrowed from Amazon.com review).

I'm not sure if it's a foreign film, but when you look on Amazon.com, they say that it’s an import, so it might be a foreign film. Either way, you should watch it! It's a good one.

Have a good 'un.

[OzMan]

I think everyone knows that there were mistakes made at Munich. But you have to understand the circumstances of the German government at the time:

1. They didn't want to show any hostility and be reminiscent of WWII. This is why security was lax.
2. No one in the world knew how to combat terrorism. I think somewhere in the documentary they said that it was after Munich that "Palestine" became a household word.
- They did not know how to storm a building.
- They did not know how to control the media and the public's access to the situation.
- They did not know to keep roads open to the airport. I thought it was funny that the APC's or whatever they had on the way were stuck in traffic with all of the curious onlookers.
- They did not know how to ambush the terrorists at the airport.
- They did not pick very reliable people in the waiting jet (they decided to abort while the helos were on the way)
- They didn't have enough radioes like we do nowadays to go around. They were simply told to shoot the first person they see. :cantbeli:

But everyone learned from Munich. At least the Germans did. A few months later they created the world's first dedicated CT force, the GSG9. And the GSG9 still continues to be one of the most elite CT units in the world.

[Kitsune]

Another thing was that the Israelis offered to bring in a elite military unit of theirs, but the bavarian state government declined. :cantbeli:
That was pretty stupid too.

[Mayhem#]

Tumbledown: a british 1/Lt from Scots Guards who got a headshot in Falklands.


Tumbledown is a classic in my opinion.
Love the squaddie going "excuse me sir, but I've been hit" before he falls down...
Had it on VHS but lost the goddamn tape :fork:

[42commando]

Check out "The Wild Geese", Richard Burton, Roger Moore, Richard Harris. British mercenaries fighting there way out of Africa. Classic but hard to find, circa 1979.

[yellowking]

Absolutely agree on The Beast, Breaker Morant, and A Bridge Too Far, all classic movies. I'll add a few more that I'm surprised haven't been mentioned.

The first would be ZULU, a great British film on Rorke's Drift. Lots of minor historical details wrong, but MAN what a flick! Michael Caine's first movie, and he is good. One of my all-time favorites. http://us.imdb.com/Title?0058777


Check out "The Wild Geese", Richard Burton, Roger Moore, Richard Harris. British mercenaries fighting there way out of Africa. Classic but hard to find, circa 1979.

Good, and also check out The Dogs of War with Christopher Walken. http://us.imdb.com/Title?0080641 I liked it more than The Wild Geese, although the two movies are fairly similar.

Finally, check out The Man Who Would Be King. http://us.imdb.com/Title?0073341 Not strictly a military film as such, the movie is about two British soldiers in India (Michael Caine and Sean Connery) who attempt to set themselves up as kings of Kaffiristan. Very good.

[Smintjes]

Warriors: a British tv-movie about British UN-soldiers in Former Yugoslavia. Not a very optimistic movie, though, but ultimately gripping.

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0119873

[Mal3]

Bravo Two Zero is a big favourite of mine despite the criticism against the book.

Although it's not really movies, there was a good TV serial about the SAS that's available on video including a re-enactment of Op Nimrod/Princess Gate. I think that show was great, but I'd really like to hear somebody more in the know criticise it.

Also, there was a GREAT Brit mini series called Ultimate Force (I know, the name is ****e) about some SAS blokes. Looked really good and believable for the most parts. The shows happening in N-Ireland, Yugoslavia and Selection are stunners.

What I'd really like to see would be a film about the Falklands Conflict. The Battle for Goose Green is well documented and would be ideal.

Anybody seen Victory at Entebbe? Surely one of the most stunning operations depicted there. Don't want to see it if it is no good.

[Chris1]

Check out "The Wild Geese", Richard Burton, Roger Moore, Richard Harris. British mercenaries fighting there way out of Africa. Classic but hard to find, circa 1979.
that was the one I was thinking of, but I couldn't remember the name
class film
Warriors I liked as well
Tumbledown I haven't seen but sounds interesting.

[manfred89]

so many films here i want to see but cant find anywhere! Does anybody know where these movies can be bought in uk ( preferably online as im in belfast) ? Thanks :)

[Mal3]

Dunno man, try www.play.com. At least they're cheap and shipping is included in the price which should help if you're in Belfast.

[manfred89]

thanks for the tip, but ive tried play, well at least for 'Winter War' which I'd love to see....should try for some of the others mentioned though....thanks again :)

[papabear]

I know I've posted this on a different thread, but Stalingrad is a good movie, done from the German (but not Nazi) perspective. It should be available through amazon uk.

[manfred89]

Stalingrad is a great movie, Its readily avaialable in the uk, thankfully, though only the dubbed version for some stupid reason :)

[FabeYond]

Regarding Enemy At The Gates:

Here is what Anthony Beevor (author of Stalingrad) had to say:
"Indeed, the whole story of the sniper duel is fiction. There is absolutely no trace in the German military archives or SS records of SS officer Heinz Thorwald.
Also there is absolutely no report of the duel in the Red Army files which concentrated on sniper activities (the daily reports of the Political Department of Stalingrad Front to Moscow)
This great story can be classified as Sovjet propaganda."

The quote below is from a BBC News article:
"Mr Beevor, whose acclaimed tome Stalingrad is rapidly becoming the definitive text on the battle, said while Zaitsev was a real figure there was no evidence to support the existence of Koenig.
He said: 'I've been through the Soviet Ministry of Defence's archive in Podolsk and there is no record of such a duel.'
'If it had taken place the Soviet propaganda machine would have leapt on it.'"

[Chops]

If anyone's interested- The Odd Angry Shot (SASR in RVN) has been released in Oz on DVD. Just got a copy sent over by a mate- commentaries which are extremely good, production notes, scene breakdowns etc. Try HMV Australia or similar if you want a copy.

rgds

Chops

[ScopeScene]

"Bridge of River Kwi (sp)", mentioned before, is simply brilliant. 3 hours of great viewing, although it is biased against the Japanese for all you people bent on fairness.

[JohnJohn]

anybody bring up "The Longest Day"? Its a WWII movie about the events leading up to D-day and the events that followed. I don't know if it counts as an American movie due to the fact that it had so many other actors from other countries and they speak in their native tongues. I think it is very good and funny at some points ;)

[Ichhabe]

So JohnJohn, what do you think then? It is an American director, and made by an American movie studio...

[He219]

I was stoked to see Yellowking's posting for "The Man Who Would Be King", a Fantastic Movie.

"Das Boot" is o.k., "Stalingrad" is DREARY and anyone who likes those will like "The Iron Cross" - another nutty one.

"The Beast" is a great movie and quite pertinent to the times. I highly recommend this one to anyone who hasn't seen it.

"The Eagle has Landed" is fantastic. Michael Caine again and Robert Duval, WOW!

Lee Marvin in "Hell in the Pacific" is AMAZING!

Eagle 1-1, unfortunately most of these are Anglo-American productions. Das Boot and Stalingrad are the only foreign ones I listed. But check out the others I listed and along with those in other postings.

p-)
-He219

[OzMan]

Cool. Can't believe people still come back to this thread. Mostly I'm just looking for movies I haven't seen (foreign or not) that are recommended.

[JohnJohn]

So JohnJohn, what do you think then? It is an American director, and made by an American movie studio...

it was not just an american production bud ;)

[He219]

Last night a couple 'popped' into my head that I forgot about:

The Blue Max - WWI aero pic with George Peppard - Great!
Murphy's War - WWII Africa pic w/ Peter O'Toole vs. U-Boot - Serious
Zeppelin - WWI fantasy SpecOps flic w/ Michael York - Entertaining

I'm still thinking of froeign ones though!

p-)
He219

[XASA]

There's a great book called "War Movies" by Brock Garland (Facts on File Publications). It's been out of print for several years but is still available used on Amazon or in your local library. It has a brief history of the genre and over 450 A-Z listings on war films from around the world. What makes this book more interesting than many on the subject is the author really gets into historical correctness, weapons and tactics as well as production credits and values. A must read if you enjoy war movies.

[Steve Andrews]

Ichhabe....I remember "come and see". An excellent film. A bit gruesome when they grenade the families in the barn though. I saw it years ago, but remember a scene where a cow gets shot. I'm sure they used live ammo. You see the tracer go through it and it drops like a sack of ****.

[Redford]

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[Royal]

I remember seeing a film on the Rhodesian Light Infantry/SAS years ago. From what I remember the plot was similar to 'The odd angry shot' any one else remember it?

My list, in no particular order?

Das Boot
The Odd Angry Shot
The Beast
Nicija Zemlja (No Mans Land)(Bosnian war black commedy)
Lepa Sela Lepa Gore (Pretty Village, Pretty Flame)(another Balkans flick)
The Hill (B&W Sean Connery flick set in WWII North Africa)
Cross of Iron
Cockleshell Heroes (B&W WWII SBS raid)

[Carib]

[quote=Redford]any body seen this spainish movie, the best war movie about kosovo war i ever seen

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[Carib]

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Yes I saw this movie a year ago. It is exceptionally good... A well filmed foreign film about the difficulties posed by multi-national peacekeeping in the Balkans.

[James]

ANZACs

From OZ in 1985 or so. Paul Hogan, Jon Blake, Andrew Clarke, and Megan Williams.

I got a region 4 copy of the whole mini series and was able to watch it... MUCH better than the 2.5 hour US movie version available in the states. The best way to describe it is as an Aussie Band of Brothers set in WWI.

Amazing.

[RBIH_Troop]

No Mans Land: [/b]This is a Bosnian film about the war on Balcan. 3 men are cought between the Serb and the Muslim lines. One of them has a mine beneath him. I say no more. Two thumbs and one big toe up for that one.

Hell yeah. No man's land is so kick ass. It won a reward for I belive best foreign movie in the oscar's. It is a truly amazing film. I loved it!

A MUST SEE!

[RBIH_Troop]

Here are some foreign war movie's in the Balkan's.

Bitka na Neretvi : This movie is the one of the best war movie's about the Balkan's. It is about the Partizan's fighting the Cetnik's and German's in WWII. It has so much action in it. There are huge battle's in it, especially the ending battle between the Partisan's and Cetnik's.

Kozara: This movie is also about partizan's during WWII

Most: This movie is about the German and Partizan war. It's title Most (Bridge) is based on the bridge the Partizan's destroyed so that the German force's couldn't take over a large land controlled by the Partizan army. It also contain's battle's. The destruction of the bridge is also seen in "Bitka na Neretvi"

Savrseni Krug:This site tell's you about the film. http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/movie.html?v_id=155071

[RBIH_Troop]

Here is more info about Bitka na Neretvi http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064091/

[baboon6]

ANZACs

From OZ in 1985 or so. Paul Hogan, Jon Blake, Andrew Clarke, and Megan Williams.

I got a region 4 copy of the whole mini series and was able to watch it... MUCH better than the 2.5 hour US movie version available in the states. The best way to describe it is as an Aussie Band of Brothers set in WWI.

Amazing.

I remember seeing this on tv as a kid, pretty cool. Nice avatar by the way!

[MARINO]

any body seen this spainish movie, the best war movie about kosovo war i ever seen

Guerreros
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This movie sucks a lot.

[Marsuitor]

What's the name of that Korean movie about the Korean war? Brothers-something i think... Only saw five minutes from it, and that was some brutal stuff.

[Johnny_H02]

ANZACs

From OZ in 1985 or so. Paul Hogan, Jon Blake, Andrew Clarke, and Megan Williams.

I got a region 4 copy of the whole mini series and was able to watch it... MUCH better than the 2.5 hour US movie version available in the states. The best way to describe it is as an Aussie Band of Brothers set in WWI.

Amazing.


DUDE !

I seriously thought I was the only person who would know of this.
I had the 2.5hr VHS movie of this, and its a damn shame that its not out on DVD in North America :(

Here are my suggestions for my favorite non US war movies.
I am only going to voice opinions of films that I think havent been discussed a million times over.

British War Films :

Zulu (1963 )
What can I say about this movie other then fantastic, the whole "its not historicaly accurate" thing people tend to get on with this film is irrelavent. This movie is a text book example of who to make a really great war film without nessecarily sticking to the facts, that being said while it dosnt follow the action at Rorkes Drift factwise, it certainly captures the situation, and illustrates it beautifully and the film character no doubt embodies the Defenders, and the heroic battle of Rorkes drift.

Zulu Dawn ( 1977 )
This one has more faults then Zulu IMO, and suffers from PC influencing in the telling of the story ( IE the Menacing Empire imposing its will on a peacefull Zulu people, reading up on this subject further, there were valid concerns about King Cetshwayo's growing military power ) Anyways despite that and some pretty inexcusible Costume and Prop errors ( Martini Henry Carbines, the tunics are too bright almost neon red sometimes, 17th Lancers ... in the film etc )

Despite these errors once the shyte hits the fan and the battle is finally brought to us, its a really excellent cinimatic view of what happend, even if its only the tip of the iceberg.

Waterloo (1970 )
Thousends of Extras, lines upon lines of Napoleonic troops both French, Prussian, and English a stage by stage cinimatic representation of the events at waterloo, a full colour war film that stands in the company of other such epics like The longest day, Bridge too Far, Battle of Britain, Tora Tora Tora, which tell the story from both sides beautifully.

The Charge of the Light Brigade ( 1970's )
This film is simply awsome to me, even though allot of the characters are really impossible to identify with, and the movie starts really slow. It is simply amazing, its not often you can get such a well done movie about a often ignored conflict excellent film

The man who would be king
As previously stated, not so much a war film per-say but a excellent and beautifull movie none the less, people always shout Micheal Caine and Sean Connerys praises and rightfully so, but lets not forget Christopher Plummer with his role as famed poet Rudyard Kipling.

Gunga Din (1939 )
This one is controversial due to the fact that the films under dog character is a rather stereotypical fellow, a lowly water boy named Gunga played by Sam Jaffa. The movie is Black and white and allot of the fight scenes are just sped up to look more intense. But this one is a rare gem why?

Not cause its a great war movie or film per say but it has that touch of the golden age of story telling, it has the same bravado that is told in storys about the British Empire and its Glory etc. Its a damn good film IMO if you can get past the Stereotypical Indian character of Gunga Din himself.

It follows these officers against a radical muslim murder cult, into a ancient fortress located deep within the mountains. They go there and are aprehended by the leader of this cult ( a truely freaky villian ) who then plans to ambush the British Column of Highlanders who approach to destroy the cult fortress.

Damn good battle at the end complete with period Artillery pieces, Gatling guns that are mounted on elephants and put together and fired as they would have been the movie really struck a good cord with me, I sugggest checking it out.

The Four Feathers ( 1939 )
Not that piece of trash from 2002 with Hieth Ledger in it, but a full technicolor film, shot in 1939 about Harry Faversham a British officer who resigns his commision just befor his unit is posted to the Sudan, he is disgraced and given four white feathers ( a sign of Cowardice ) and he sets out on his own to give them back to his buddies who are all over there.

he gets over to the sudan and there is a excellent battle scene ( not that rubbish with Kafirs breaking a British Infantry square with cavelry in the 2002 film ) and he and his blinded buddy have to make it back to the British side of things or will both surely die, I havent seen this film in ages hence why I am a little more vague, however I am recieving it from Amazon.ca on monday or tuesday so I will surely post more about this amazing film.

I will post more later

LOL has anyone noticed a certain pattern in my film choices?
I just noticed they are all .. I dunno .... Pre 20th Century.
Oh well I love loads and loads of WWI and WWII movies, but these movies and storys are often overlooked. Hell people tend to assume that WWI and II were the worlds first real world wars. Which is untrue, in the 18th century the world was at war across the known world in the "Seven years war" and the War of 1812 does have roots and connections to the Napoleonic wars raging in Europe at the time the Americans decided to attack.
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[ogukuo72]

Right you are, about the four feathers. Hollywood always manages to mess up a remake with PC crap. :)

[S'13]

There are few israely movies, but other than "Kippur" and "Cup finalle" none of them saw international screenings.

Kippur - as said, this movie shows the war from the bottom. Based on the director's memmories, it is about acouple of soldiers that lose their reserve recon unit at the begining of the war, and join MEDEVAC bird's crew to help rescue wounded from the front. Generaly, the 1973 Kippur war is considered to be israel's pearl harbour (with much harder results).

Cup finalle - Based on true story, it tells a story of two IDF soldiers taken POW near the front line. Their captors take them on a hike toward beirut, and the emphasis is on the POWs (one dies early) and the captor's shared interest in soccer - with 1982's world cup finalle in the background.

Two fingers out of syda - based on IDF internal movie, it shows an army unit during the end period of the lebanon war (1985), criticising morrale issues like the behaviour toward local civilians and accidental killing of a child.

One of ours - MP's CID officers investigate a death of a palestinian terrorist caught after killing an officer at the paratrooper's recon unit base. The story becomes complicated when it appears that the CID investigator began the recon unit's training cycle, and left after a harsh fight with his teammates. It soon becomes obvious that the terrorist was actualy murdered by someone from the unit during an interogation.

The funny thing is that many of the israely war movies actualy bring up some hard questions like "Is the war worthy?", "Are we doing the right thing?", and so on. There are'nt realy any rambo-like movies made in israel, probbably for the obvious reason that under constant war nobody realy feels like laughing about it...

I'll just add Avanti popolo (1986)... this movie tells the story of two Egyptian soldiers stranded in the Sinai desert and trying to get back home from the front after the 1967 Six Day War.

[Apathy]

What's the name of that Korean movie about the Korean war? Brothers-something i think... Only saw five minutes from it, and that was some brutal stuff.

Taegukgi

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386064/


Loved that movie.

[AROUETLJ]

Did anyone mention 'Dien Bien Phu' and 'Uomini Contro'?

[Marsuitor]

Taegukgi

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386064/


Loved that movie.
Cool, thanks mate!:)

[Noob Brit]

I'm now at the stage at night were I can't remember nothing. Another brit movie is about the 48 hours prior ti the attack on the Falklands. But I can not remember the title. Darn!

An Ungentlemanly Act?

Someone mentioned Contact earlier which is brilliant. Hardly any dialogue yet the tension really builds. Warriors was also mentioned which is another goodun.

One of my favourites is The Battle of Britain. A Hollywood movie that actually gives the Brits credit for winning the fight and not a yank in sight to claim the credit. It also has the best soundtrack of any war film.

[Count Lippe]

Warriors - A British movie about Brit Warrior IFV crews in Bosnia, very realistic!

Capitaine Conan - French WWI movie about the balkans theatre. Fvcking good CQB scenes!


Another one is Bloody Sunday. Controversial, but still very dramatic!

[mwarf]

Capitaine Conan - French WWI movie about the balkans theatre. Fvcking good CQB scenes! An another good french movie is " La 317e section " , about the Indochina war. It's an old movie (1965), in black and white, i think it's now very difficult to find it, from the same director of "Dien Bien Phu", Pierre Schoendoerffer, he got the price of the best scenario in Cannes Movies Festival
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