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Shuimo
09-29-2009, 01:00 AM
What big uncertainties do you think CPC-ruled China faces?

China faces 'big' uncertainties: World Bank chief
By P. Parameswaran (AFP) Sept 29,2009

WASHINGTON — China faces major uncertainties even though it rebounded strongly from the latest financial crisis aided by its huge treasure chest, World Bank President Robert Zoellick said on Monday.
"China's future is not yet determined," he said even though the Asian giant effectively pump primed its huge economy and used various monetary polices to weather the crisis that plunged the world into recession.
Noting that China's rapid recovery was fuelled by an expansion of credit, he said "this flood is now easing, and authorities are likely to limit it further for fear of effects on asset prices, asset quality, and eventually general inflation."
Credit expanded at a red hot pace of 26 percent of China's gross domestic product (GDP) in the first eight months of 2009 and last month, the stock market slumped partly due to concerns that banks had been ordered to rein in aggressive lending.
"China still faces big uncertainties in 2010," Zoellick told a Washington forum of the Johns Hopkins University.
He said Chinese leaders recognized the risks of the continued dependence of China and other emerging economies on export-led growth.
"It will not be easy for China to shift to increasing reliance on domestic demand, especially to greater consumption that could help balance world growth while contributing to China's goal of a more 'harmonious society,'" he said.
Zoellick cited China's protected service sector, including financial services, saying it "limits opportunities for entrepreneurs and increases in productivity."
But he pointed out that China's rapid recovery, on the back of more than two trillion dollars of reserves -- the world's largest -- had assisted other nations, underscoring its growing influence.
China also holds more than 800 billion dollars in US Treasury bond investments.
The country's leaders have expressed concern over the status of the dollar as a key reserve currency as the greenback weakened on mostly ballooning deficits and debt.
Zoellick said China was moving towards gradual internationalization of its yuan currency by making it easier for trading partners to do business in it, for example, through currency swaps.
"We are likely to see this shift in the world of investment as well: for the first time this month, China issued sovereign bonds in Renminbi (yuan) to offshore investors," he said.
China on Monday launched the sale of six billion yuan (879 million dollars) in government bonds in Hong Kong, the Chinese finance ministry said, marking the first such offer outside the mainland.
China also recently announced that foreign companies will be able to list their stocks in China, a step toward making Shanghai an international financial center.
"As a major importer of commodities, one can imagine new benchmark indices established at Shanghai or other Chinese ports, eventually in Renminbi," he said.
But Zoellick felt Chinese leaders would be "cautious" as most of them want to retain the control that came from a closed capital account.
"Financial and banking markets are likely to continue to be subject to various tools of intervention and control," he said.
"Yet I expect China will be inevitably drawn outward. Over 10 to 20 years, the Renminbi will evolve into a force in financial markets."

Flagg
09-29-2009, 01:25 AM
*social unrest from declining economic growth and increasingly visible economic disparity (China needs to achieve fairly high economic growth just to successfully convert dirt farmers into factory workers without chaos ensuing)

*economic dislocation resulting from a dodgy and deeply intertwined mix of corporate/government/banking fraud(If you think the US and other western countries have bad debts on their books wait until you see China's)

*excess industrial capacity(while much of China's excess capacity will eventually be used again in the future, for the short-to-medium term, and until China's domestic demand and international demand grows again...it could be sitting idle...possibly for quite some time....unless global growth explodes again....with the chances of that approaching absolute zero on the kelvin scale)

*"Pop!" (China has not suffered the same sharemarket and property collapses as much of the west......YET)

lostlamb
09-29-2009, 02:30 AM
such voice never end。 we heard it from 1990s,but it seems Chinese gov and economic don‘t collapse like their said。

c62
09-29-2009, 09:02 PM
One of the few areas I disagree with Peter Schiff on is the China Bubble.

As mentioned before (by Flagg) the excessive inventory is troublesome, and I'm not seeing any signals from the Chinese gov't to begin to turn their economy to a more consumption based economy. Getting their people to consume their own stuff would be tremendous helpful to China, but I just don't see any evidence China is going in that direction. This means China is dependent on exports. Which has it's own set of problems.