Immigrant asks to be deported, citing poverty...

[RxOnco]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/immigration/6642446.html



FRAMINGHAM, Mass. — Police in Framingham, Mass., say an illegal immigrant from Guatemala entered a police station, told officers he had stolen another man's identity and asked to be deported because he could no longer make ends meet in America.
Police tell the MetroWest Daily News they arrested 29-year-old Carlos Boc after he confessed Saturday night.
Lt. Paul Shastany says Boc told police he wanted to return to Guatemala but can't afford a ticket. He told police he has no job or money and is worried about surviving the winter. He told police he came to the U.S. 13 years ago.
A not guilty plea was entered on Boc's behalf Monday at his arraignment in Framingham District Court on charges including identity fraud. (More on this story here (http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/news/x1002020518/Identity-theft-suspect-hopes-to-be-deported-for-trip-home).)
A home number for Boc could not immediately be found.


Drop his a$$ off at the border.

One down...about 10 million to go.

[dredger14]

Unlike some other scoundrels he didn't take to thieving or some other illegal activities. Sounds like a good dude to me.

[gaijinsamurai]

Make him work on a chain gang to raise the $$$ for his ticket.....

[RxOnco]

Unlike some other scoundrels he didn't take to thieving or some other illegal activities. Sounds like a good dude to me.

Last I checked, identity theft was illegal.

[dredger14]

Identity theft is not as serious as some other offences like GTA, drug dealing, prostitution etc.
That was my point..

[LineDoggie]

Vaya Con Dios.......

[SBL]

Identity theft is not as serious as some other offences like GTA, drug dealing, prostitution etc.
That was my point..
Yeah? Wait until someone gets ahold of your personal data.

[Geezah]

Identity theft is not as serious as some other offences like GTA, drug dealing, prostitution etc.
That was my point..

And you would know this how?

Just because he confessed to stealing someones identity, does not mean he has not confessed to other crimes he may have commited.

I say let him enjoy this coming winter, as I expect it to be a bad one.......then send him home.

[dredger14]

All I mean't to say is that it could be worse, after all the guy gave himself up, how many illegals do that.

[Geezah]

All I mean't to say is that it could be worse, after all the guy gave himself up, how many illegals do that.

He gave himself up, not because he felt any kind of remorse for what he did, but because he feels he will suffer this winter.

He's already caused suffering to others and because he is now suffering, he looks for an easy way out.

I have no sympathy for illegal immigrants, not when I know people that have gone through the correct legal channels to get here. In one case it took my friend and his family 10yrs to get here from Vietnam.

[TallGuy]

I wonder how many illegals would go home if the Government offered them a free ticket.....

[RxOnco]

I wonder how many illegals would go home if the Government offered them a free ticket.....

Not enough...

[Flamming_Python]

Remorse what what he did? WTF?

If you had a big family to feed and a big economy just over the border; you'd go there whether it was illegal or not. Desperate times lead people to do desperate things; but in this case there is no evidence that this man stole, killed, or anything of the sort.

His crime was to disobey what is essentially an economic law; that benefits the native population of a country not because they are somehow more moral, but because they have the political power.

[Zoomie]

Remorse what what he did? WTF?

If you had a big family to feed and a big economy just over the border; you'd go there whether it was illegal or not. Desperate times lead people to do desperate things; but in this case there is no evidence that this man stole, killed, or anything of the sort.

His crime was to disobey what is essentially an economic law; that benefits the native population of a country not because they are somehow more moral, but because they have the political power.
Stealing someone's identity isn't a crime? :cantbeli:

[Connaught Ranger]

He gave himself up, not because he felt any kind of remorse for what he did, but because he feels he will suffer this winter.

He's already caused suffering to others and because he is now suffering, he looks for an easy way out.

I have no sympathy for illegal immigrants, not when I know people that have gone through the correct legal channels to get here. In one case it took my friend and his family 10yrs to get here from Vietnam.

Where is the evidence of that? :roll:

[Chulo]

Remorse what what he did? WTF?

If you had a big family to feed and a big economy just over the border; you'd go there whether it was illegal or not. Desperate times lead people to do desperate things; but in this case there is no evidence that this man stole, killed, or anything of the sort.

His crime was to disobey what is essentially an economic law; that benefits the native population of a country not because they are somehow more moral, but because they have the political power.
There is morality in State Sovereignty, there is morality in obeying laws, there is morality in not stealing someone else's identity, there is morality in obeying the laws of the land and there is morality in doing what is right. Those are not just economic laws.

[Ordie]

Drop his a$$ off at the border.

Does Guatemala share a border with the US?

[Chulo]

any way.. the balls of this illegal immigrant. Come in, steal, and then ask the government for a ticket back home.

Maybe they should make some work camps of illegal immigrants to pay their way back home.

[RxOnco]

Does Guatemala share a border with the US?

No...but if he managed to find his way up here, he can sure as hell find his way back.

[Ordie]

No...but if he managed to find his way up here, he can sure as hell find his way back.

But there's a legal issue here.

Since he commited a crime, he's entitled to his day in court and serve his sentence in the US.

So in the end he may not get what he wanted. But at least he has his three hots and a cot.

[chauncy republicans]

There is morality in State Sovereignty, there is morality in obeying laws, there is morality in not stealing someone else's identity, there is morality in obeying the laws of the land and there is morality in doing what is right. Those are not just economic laws.
There is also the moral responsibility of taking care of your family. I would love to adopt every homeless child in the world, the problem is that I don't have the resources available to do so, and I would inevitably put my family - the one's I am committed to through vows and blood, in the same homeless boat.
I have all the sympathy, and respect in the world for a man who's trying to provide a better living for his family, and would surely provide all the help I responsibly could, but also realize that if people don't retain security for themselves there will be no place for the poor/broken to seek refuge.

America can't handle the burden of too many immigrants, which is why we have immigration quotas, that way in the future there will be a place for legal immigrants to find a better life.

I say let the man find his own way back, drop him off at the border like the pharmacist said.

[chauncy republicans]

But there's a legal issue here.

Since he commited a crime, he's entitled to his day in court and serve his sentence in the US.

So in the end he may not get what he wanted. But at least he has his three hots and a cot.
He snuck over here, and is not a citizen, he is entitled to nothing.

[Chulo]

There is also the moral responsibility of taking care of your family. I would love to adopt every homeless child in the world, the problem is that I don't have the resources available to do so, and I would inevitably put my family - the one's I am committed to through vows and blood, in the same homeless boat.
I have all the sympathy, and respect in the world for a man who's trying to provide a better living for his family, and would surely provide all the help I responsibly could, but also realize that if people don't retain security for themselves there will be no place for the poor/broken to seek refuge.

America can't handle the burden of too many immigrants, which is why we have immigration quotas, that way in the future there will be a place for legal immigrants to find a better life.

I say let the man find his own way back, drop him off at the border like the pharmacist said.
i agree with what you say, i was just responding to the statement that

His crime was to disobey what is essentially an economic law; that benefits the native population of a country not because they are somehow more moral, but because they have the political power.
Morality is present in every aspect of law. Why do we drive on one side of the road? So that we dont cause accidents, why? because of the moral worth of life.

[Ordie]

He snuck over here, and is not a citizen, he is entitled to nothing.

Yes he is under the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.

[chauncy republicans]

i agree with what you say, i was just responding to the statement that


I know I was responding to him as well, I didn't want to re-quote his post so I used yours.

[Chulo]

Yes he is under the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Maybe they should make a "GrandTaco Bay" holding area.. :P

jokes aside, we have a moral obligation to respect the rights we give our own citizens, but likewise, they should respect ours. And this is the catch 22 because they dont, but we are under an obligation to. However deportation would cost less that what is lost in taxes.

[chauncy republicans]

Yes he is under the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

I guess your right actually, thanks for the schooling.

[Ordie]

I guess your right actually, thanks for the schooling.

Your welcome.

The devil is always in the fine print and details.

He would've been better off reporting to the local DHS office or contacting the local church to pay his way back home.

[RxOnco]

They don't have to charge him with the crime. They're fine if they decide to drop charges and just deport the man.

[wicked_hind]

Give him a Greyhound ticket to Brownsville and 50 bucks.