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Octavariable
10-02-2009, 08:38 AM
about 1/20 of a videotape (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3784487,00.html)


Shalit video deal underway
Exchange deal between Hamas, Israel kicks off with 19 female Palestinian prisoners to be released in exchange for sign of life from captive soldier transferred to Ofer, Shikma detention facilities ahead of release. One more prisoner to be released on Sunday
Ynet reporters
Latest Update: 10.02.09, 12:09 / Israel News
At 9:30 am Nahshon Unit vehicles left the Hadarim prison to the Ofer and Shikma detention facilities carrying the 19 female Palestinian prisoners slated to be released in exchange for a sign of life from captive solider Gilad Shalit.

The convoy of Israel Prison Service vans transporting 18 female Palestinian prisoners as part of the videotape swap deal arrived at Ofer detention center, near Bitunia, just before 11 am.

From there, they were handed over to the Red Cross at 11:30 am, where they awaited the green light from Israel's envoy to Shalit talks Hagai Hadas' authorization before being released via Bitunia Checkpoint near Ramallah and Erez crossing between the Gaza Strip and Israel and the Bitunia Checkpoint near Ramallah.

The eighteen female Palestinian prisoners were released at Bitunia Checkpoint. They crossed into Palestinian territory where they were received by their families.

Another female Palestinian prisoner included in the videotape deal was released into the Gaza Strip after being transported to Erez crossing in a UN convoy.

The 20th prisoner slated for release, 20-year-old Roda Habib, will be transferred to Gaza on Sunday. She was added to the list at the last minute, taking the place of Bara'ah al-Malki, who was released Wednesday because her prisoner sentence was up.

At 11:30 am the German mediator will show Hadas and his team the minute-long video of the captive soldier. The tape will remain in the mediator's custody. Hadas and his team will verify the content of the videotape, and check that it shows Shalit facing the camera, and includes proof that it was recorded in recent weeks.

The team will inspect the video thoroughly, and will make several copies to be given to the Shalit family and the prime minister.

Hadas will then give the IPS the green light, and the prisoners will be transferred to the Red Cross. As the process of the prisoners' release commences, the tape will be transferred to Hadas' custody.

During the prisoners' release, members of the campaign for Shalit's release will take place at Erez crossing under the banner: "Gilad has not been released yet".

At around 1 pm, Hadas is slated to take the tape to the Prime Minister's Office in Jerusalem, to present it to Netanyahu. A copy of the tape will be delivered to the Shalit family by helicopter.

Brigadier General Avi Zamir, head of the army's Human Resources Branch, will present the video to the Shalit family at around 3 pm. The video may even be flown in a helicopter to the family so as not to expedite its arrival. The family requested to watch the video in private.

Copies of the video will also be delivered to the defense minister, the IDF chief of staff and the Shin Bet chief.

Who will see the tape?
After watching the videotape, Jerusalem will have to decide a policy for publishing the footage – namely, whether to show the rare sign of life to the broader public or only to a select few? Great weight will be given to the Shalit family's wishes on the matter. Consideration will also be given to allowing continued negotiations without additional pressures.

The Prime Minister's Office emphasized that the exchange is only an initial, tentative step meant to be a confidence building measure between the Israelis and the Palestinians before continuing forward in negotiations. Intensive indirect talks apparently are continuing by way of German and Egyptian mediators in order to make an official assessment of the list of prisoners Hamas is demanding that Israel release in exchange for Shalit.

The town of Mitzpe Hila, Gilad Shalit's hometown, has been eagerly anticipating the release of the videotape. Amir Gur Lavi, a resident of the town and a member of the campaign for Gilad's release, said to Ynet that the joy of receiving a sign of life is restrained because, according to him, it is "just a video" and not Gilad's release.

"Of course, there is great excitement. This is proof of what we have hoped and expected for a long time, that Gilad is indeed alive. We are definitely happy that in any case, despite the Hamas' continued refusal, the mediators successfully took action and secured a sign of life."

Gilad Shalit was kidnapped to the Gaza Strip 1,195 days ago.

By this logic, if and when Shalit will be freed for the thousand or so terrorist, a racial slur will become a fact,1 Israeli really is worth 1000 palestinians.

charlie
10-02-2009, 10:05 AM
Good to see he's still alive.

Gunge
10-02-2009, 11:36 AM
is this a done deal yet?
has a tape been viewed?
i wouldn't trust them for nothing

GiladS
10-02-2009, 11:55 AM
The vid has been broadcasted:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3784612,00.html

Snoshi
10-02-2009, 11:58 AM
The vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/tfeT6Y3E1bs

Mu-Meson
10-02-2009, 01:08 PM
about 1/20 of a videotape (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3784487,00.html)



By this logic, if and when Shalit will be freed for the thousand or so terrorist, a racial slur will become a fact,1 Israeli really is worth 1000 palestinians.

WTF? Israel is damned if you do and damned if you don't, eh? This just shows that Israel values human life exponentially higher than Hamas does. I fail to see how that is racist.

Invisigoth
10-02-2009, 03:55 PM
I hope the kid makes it out of there, whatever the price may be.

Ordie
10-02-2009, 04:30 PM
"It was in our power to set high price for our blood, a price too high for the Arab community, the Arab army, or the Arab governments to think it worth paying."

-Moshe Dayan

Vandervahn
10-02-2009, 05:13 PM
WTF? Israel is damned if you do and damned if you don't, eh? This just shows that Israel values human life exponentially higher than Hamas does. I fail to see how that is racist.

Probably because you fail at reading comprehension in this case.

rgjbloke
10-03-2009, 04:50 PM
I hope the kid makes it out of there, whatever the price may be.

I completely agree X2.

TheOpposition
10-03-2009, 08:40 PM
Something tells me that soldier is dead. This has been done many times before in Iraq. People will send govt, family videos of captured loved ones. Only to find out later that they had been killed long before the video was released.

GiladS
10-03-2009, 08:44 PM
Something tells me that soldier is dead. This has been done many times before in Iraq. People will send govt, family videos of captured loved ones. Only to find out later that they had been killed long before the video was released.

The video is proven to have been filmed on the 14th of September.

So if in any future deal to return Gilad they'll give back a body they should know that there will be grave consequences.

little icebear
10-03-2009, 08:54 PM
I donīt believe that heīs dead or will get murdered. At least not in the near future.

What I fear is rather that they like the attention Gilads fate gets way too much to let him go anytime soon.

MichaelF
10-03-2009, 09:52 PM
Something tells me that soldier is dead. This has been done many times before in Iraq. People will send govt, family videos of captured loved ones. Only to find out later that they had been killed long before the video was released.

Hamas is well known to have a time-travelling newspaper delivery boy...

Eztyga
10-03-2009, 10:15 PM
Whats a bag of rocks worth... :)

LRPV
10-04-2009, 02:18 AM
Whats a bag of rocks worth... :)

????????????

TheOpposition
10-04-2009, 07:42 PM
Hamas is well known to have a time-travelling newspaper delivery boy...


Correct me if im wrong but ddint this sitation happen before and they recived a dead body? or are we claiming the dead body to be fake now?

I cant remember names or sitations (seems to be alot of em lately..) But I think it was prior to the july war. Not sure though.

MichaelF
10-05-2009, 02:55 AM
Correct me if im wrong but ddint this sitation happen before and they recived a dead body? or are we claiming the dead body to be fake now?

I cant remember names or sitations (seems to be alot of em lately..) But I think it was prior to the july war. Not sure though.

It would be hard to produce a video of a prisoner reading a current newspaper, if he had been dead for some time....