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breki
10-07-2009, 07:17 PM
TORONTO — Middle Eastern garments designed to cover a woman's face are "medieval" and "misogynist" symbols of extremism with no basis in Islam, a Canadian Muslim lobby group said Wednesday as it urged Ottawa to ban the burka and the niqab.
The Muslim Canadian Congress called on the federal government to prohibit the two garments in order to prevent women from covering their faces in public -- a practice the group said has no place in a society that supports gender equality.
"To cover your face is to conceal your identity," congress spokeswoman Farzana Hassan said in a telephone interview, describing the issue as a matter of public safety, since concealing one's identity is a common practice for criminals.
The tradition of Muslim women covering their faces in public is a tradition rooted more in Middle Eastern culture than in the Islamic faith, Hassan added.
There is nothing in any of the primary Islamic religious texts, including the Qur'an, that requires women to cover their faces, she said -- not even in the controversial, ultra-conservative tenets of Sharia law.
Considering the fact that women are in fact forbidden from wearing burkas in the grand mosque in Mecca, Islam's holiest site, it hardly makes sense that the practice should be permitted in Canada, she said.
"If a government claims to uphold equality between men and women, there is no reason for them to support a practice that marginalizes women."
The proposed ban would include the burka, an iconic head-to-toe gown with a mesh-like panel over the face that allows the wearer to see and to breathe, as well as the niqab -- a veil that leaves only the eyes exposed.
Hassan said the ban would not extend to the hijab, a traditional headscarf that does not cover the face.
The proposed ban comes on the heels of reports that Sheikh Mohamed Tantawi, dean of Egypt's al-Azhar university and the country's highest Muslim authority, is poised to issue a fatwa, or religious edict, against the garments.
Media reports Monday said Tantawi described the face coverings as "a custom that has nothing to do with the Islamic faith."
Mohamed Elmasry, former president of the Canadian Islamic Congress, said he agrees the tradition has its roots in cultural customs rather than religious teachings, but that the issue is irrelevant in Canada where the practice is not widespread.
Elmasry disputed suggestions that the garments pose a security threat, saying only a minority of Muslim women living in Canada feel the need to conceal their features in public.
He said he believes those women should have the freedom to decide whether they wish to cover their faces, and that a ban would limit freedom of expression.
"People feel it's part of their identity, people feel it's part of their culture," Elmasry said.
"It's not for you and me to decide."

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091007/muslim_ban_091007/20091007?hub=Canada

dracon49
10-07-2009, 07:34 PM
Its rare i think. Most of the muslims are religious.

BorisBC
10-07-2009, 08:23 PM
Its rare i think. Most of the muslims are religious.

hmm yeah that's true. Most people who follow a faith are religious. Seems to be one of those things.

Albatross
10-07-2009, 08:30 PM
Fatwa declared.......

cheers,
all the other slims.

hulaku
10-07-2009, 10:47 PM
It is blasphemy. I condom

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Combatbookworm
10-07-2009, 11:19 PM
This is just the Canadian Muslim Congress trying to gain public support and show that they are "moderate". They did not Condem Solomen Hussain openly stating that Muslims in Canada should "kill Canadian Soldiers before they can fight in Afghanistan". This is just good public relations, and more importantly they should be free to wear whatever the hell they want.

kamaz
10-08-2009, 12:54 AM
It is blasphemy. I condom

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lololol....

HollywoodMarine
10-08-2009, 01:36 AM
I'm HollywoodMarine... and I support this message. ;)

Infanteer Two Seven
10-08-2009, 01:52 AM
Mo bans wear whatever you feel like wearing. every Canadian has that right including Muslims.

ggk
10-08-2009, 07:56 AM
ban the burqa, its ugly

Gentius
10-08-2009, 08:15 AM
Kosovo a majority muslim country (95%) its banned to wear any of them. In schools its even banned to wear a religious veil.

Niels
10-08-2009, 10:50 AM
Most of the muslims are religious.
You think?

Mu-Meson
10-08-2009, 10:58 AM
Muslim Canadian Congress? Canadian Islamic Congress? For chrissake, Canada is a small (population-wise) country with an even smaller Muslim populaton. Why are the two such groups? How many more are there? Anyway, Mohamed Elmasry (or I prefer to call him Elmo) is hardly a moderate. The guy is on record as supporting suicide bombings.

Bitogno
10-08-2009, 11:00 AM
Its rare i think. Most of the muslims are religious.
Have you ever met and talked with a muslim ?
And to add, what is the limit between being religious and not being religious ?

JJHH
10-08-2009, 01:15 PM
Muslim Canadian Congress? Canadian Islamic Congress? For chrissake, Canada is a small (population-wise) country with an even smaller Muslim populaton. Why are the two such groups? How many more are there? Anyway, Mohamed Elmasry (or I prefer to call him Elmo) is hardly a moderate. The guy is on record as supporting suicide bombings.

They seem pretty moderate to me..



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Source: http://www.muslimcanadiancongress.org

kkbou
10-09-2009, 10:56 AM
This is just the Canadian Muslim Congress trying to gain public support and show that they are "moderate". They did not Condem Solomen Hussain openly stating that Muslims in Canada should "kill Canadian Soldiers before they can fight in Afghanistan". This is just good public relations, and more importantly they should be free to wear whatever the hell they want.


rather cynical and actually quite inaccurate.

most muslims are sick of some members of their community wearing this garbage.

the grand mufti of egypt himself recently at a public engagement told one of these idiots to take off her full face veil, and the egyptian gov has subsequently made it illegal to wear the full face veil. off course thats just a public relations exercise to appease people like you, right?