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SiFiOn
07-10-2004, 06:55 PM
Looks like some nice piece of equipment to me:

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/51045534.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE7F9CD95D11365232606CC71778262072621B2AC3A62513D3

More at: http://www.taserx26.com/

Deuterium
07-10-2004, 07:31 PM
Looks like some nice piece of equipment to me:

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/51045534.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE7F9CD95D11365232606CC71778262072621B2AC3A62513D3

More at: http://www.taserx26.com/

I am Dieter. Would you like to touch my Tazer? We must dance now.

gilgoul
07-10-2004, 07:51 PM
Very interresting, but their clip was very "matrix" like but not very inforative on range, number of shots, duration of the incapacitation and further, do you have any idea about that?

ShadowNeo
07-10-2004, 07:55 PM
I am Dieter. Would you like to touch my Tazer? We must dance now.

ROFL rofl rofl

Hellman109
07-11-2004, 05:40 AM
Looks like some nice piece of equipment to me:

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/51045534.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE7F9CD95D11365232606CC71778262072621B2AC3A62513D3

More at: http://www.taserx26.com/

"Please dont shoot, Ill spill my latte!"

Looks a bit gimmicky to me.... It does give a non-lethal attack, but for the size it doesnt look like it would pack much of a punch.

gilgoul
07-11-2004, 05:48 AM
Still, could you help the retard I am here, what does it deliver, two "darts" with electricity?
how maning shooting can you do in a row, do you have a kind of magazine or after you shot once your next alternative is your side arm?

SiFiOn
07-11-2004, 06:50 AM
CONCERN TRIGGERS TASER OPTION

Police Chief Jerry Dyer wants to reduce number of officer-involved shootings.

By Pablo Lopez, The Fresno Bee

Wednesday, January 14, 2004




FRESNO, CA - Fresno police officers are equipped with handguns, assault rifles, shotguns and other lethal weapons to combat dangerous suspects.

Chief Jerry Dyer wants to give them an additional weapon -- the nonlethal X26 Taser -- in hopes of reducing the number of officer-involved shootings.

Dyer says officers are testing the X26 Taser and, so far, the results have been pretty good. His goal is to have every patrol officer equipped with an X26 Taser within six months.

Community activist Gloria Hernandez, who has been critical of the use of force by police, commends Dyer for searching for ways to decrease the number of police shootings. In 2003, police wounded or killed five people compared with nine each in 2001 and 2002.

"I think it's a good idea," Hernandez says of equipping officers with the X26 Taser. "Nonlethal is better than lethal because it's an officer's job to arrest suspects, not kill them."

Dyer says only 101 of the 302 officers on patrol carry M26 Tasers, which look like a bulky handgun and which officers strap to the leg opposite their holster and gun.

The X26 Taser is lighter, as compact as a cell phone and fits on an officer's gun belt.

Dyer says the results of the department's first statistical analysis of officers' use of force prompted him to think hard about buying more nonlethal weapons as a means to control violent suspects.

He says he was concerned about the number of officers who fire their guns at suspects, and worried bullets that miss could hurt a bystander or penetrate a home or business.

The analysis covered six months from April to September, during which the department received 184,888 calls for services. On 237 occasions officers used force, such as Tasers, dogs, pepper spray and other methods to subdue suspects -- slightly more than one-tenth of 1% of the time.

"That is a tremendous amount of restraint displayed by our officers," Dyer says.

The report says officers use force as a last resort: "There are times when physical force is necessary to make an arrest, prevent an escape, overcome resistance or defend against injury to officers or citizens."

When officers used force, they attempted to restrain suspects with Tasers 38% of the time. Body strikes (21%) and police dogs (12%) were the next most frequently used methods of force. Firearms were used in 1% of all reported force incidents.

During this time, 21 officers were injured and 255 were assaulted, usually with fists or feet.

The M26 Taser and X26 Taser carry an electrical punch to subdue criminals, says Steve Tuttle of TASER International Inc., headquartered at Scottsdale, Ariz.

The M26 Tasers cost about $400 each; the X26 costs twice as much, Tuttle says.

Both weapons use compressed nitrogen to shoot two probes up to 21 feet at a speed of 180 feet per second. An electrical signal transmits to the probes, which make contact with the body, resulting in an instant loss of the target's neuromuscular control and any ability to perform coordinated action.

The advanced X26, which debuted in May, has a unique feature: It can record the date, time and duration of shock of the weapon the last 1,500 times it was fired. Tuttle says, "this feature protects an officer from false allegations and provides the community with checks and balances."

The X26 Taser's distinct shape and size -- the fact that it does not resemble a firearm -- are another benefit. In October 2002, Madera police officer Marcy Noriega mistakenly drew her handgun instead of a nonlethal M26 Taser and shot and killed suspect Everardo Torres, 24.

Twice before -- including a month before the Madera shooting -- officers in other U.S. cities had drawn their guns instead of the Taser device and wounded suspects.

Both the city of Madera and Noriega have filed a lawsuit against Taser International Inc. The Torres family filed a federal wrongful death complaint against Madera and Noriega after the city rejected a $10 million claim. The reporter can be reached at plopez@fresnobee.com or 441-6434.


Taken from:
http://www.taser.com/pages/2004/02/fresnocauseofforce.html



....This is critical because the X-26, like earlier models, can shoot only once (although it now can be reloaded quickly with a second cartridge that comes with the gun). Now officers can take several Taser shots if the first shot misses.

Which is still too often the case. In two highly publicized shootings in Mesa last year, and a less-talked-about incident in Chandler, only one of the two electrical probes from the Taser hit its target. The suspects kept moving toward officers and were shot and killed with police handguns.

Even with the X-26, the human body is still a hard target for Tasers. That's because the Taser's two probes must spread out about a foot from one another to work properly. In effect, the officer must be far enough away from the target to ensure the two probes disperse properly. And, at the same time, the officer must shoot precisely enough that both probes will latch to the target.

That's not easy, especially when your adrenaline is pumping and the target is moving.

That's where the training comes in. ....



The whole article can be read at:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2004-02-12/nelson.html

SiFiOn
07-11-2004, 06:54 AM
"Please dont shoot, Ill spill my latte!"

Looks a bit gimmicky to me.... It does give a non-lethal attack, but for the size it doesnt look like it would pack much of a punch.

Previous model, the M26 TASER:

http://www.staugustine.com/images/100403/taser2.jpg

gilgoul
07-11-2004, 09:28 AM
"Please dont shoot, Ill spill my latte!"

Looks a bit gimmicky to me.... It does give a non-lethal attack, but for the size it doesnt look like it would pack much of a punch.

Previous model, the M26 TASER:

http://www.staugustine.com/images/100403/taser2.jpg

Sifion hu akbarr

Thanks mate for contributing to my lazy ass education woot

gilgoul
07-11-2004, 09:29 AM
"Please dont shoot, Ill spill my latte!"

Looks a bit gimmicky to me.... It does give a non-lethal attack, but for the size it doesnt look like it would pack much of a punch.

Previous model, the M26 TASER:

http://www.staugustine.com/images/100403/taser2.jpg

Sifion hu akbarr

Thanks mate for contributing to my lazy ass education woot

SiFiOn
07-11-2004, 09:46 AM
Sifion hu akbarr

Thanks mate for contributing to my lazy ass education woot

No problemo ;)

2RHPZ
07-24-2004, 05:33 PM
Myth of Non-Lethal Weapons

From StrategyPage.com

The U.S. Marine Corps ran into a publicity problem when they accidentally sent a pressure group some documents on a cancelled project to develop a “knock out” gas for riot control. The project was not making much progress, and the marines were apparently concerned that the use of such a gas, even if it worked, would be condemned as “chemical warfare.” The same charge was made by the Chinese Communists during the Korean war, when U.S. troops used tear gas to force Chinese and North Korean troops out of bunkers and caves. While this was more humane than just killing them with explosives or a flame thrower, the Communists immediately saw the propaganda value and jumped on it. Many leftists insist to this day that America used chemical weapons in Korea.

The marines have been in the forefront of developing non-lethal weapons, but there has been great reluctance to use them. That’s because there is no such thing as a “non-lethal” weapon, only “less lethal” weapons. Someone would do the world a favor by replacing the term “non-lethal weapon” with “less-lethal weapon” But because of the possibility that people would be injured or killed by “non-lethal” weapons, resulting in negative publicity, the military is reluctant to use them. An example of this is the recent Department of Defense order for $1.8 million worth of Taser guns. The high end version of the Taser gun costs about $400, while the cartridges are about $50 each. The Taser has range of 15 feet, which is far as the two wires from the gun reach. Two metal probes attach to the targets clothing and an electrical signal is sent that confuses the human nervous system. As a result, the victim is incapacitated for several minutes. Critics, however, claim (without proof) that at least fifty people have been killed by Tasers since 1999. The military purchase of the Tasers brought the bogus death stories out again, with the implication being that the troops had a new way to kill people.

Non-lethal weapons are a nice sounding idea that few soldiers want to touch. Either because the “weapons” won’t really disable to foe who is trying to kill you, or because the device might turn out to be lethal after all, and the media will go after you for being a war criminal.