View Full Version : President Obama wins the nobel peace prize
PeterG
10-09-2009, 05:01 AM
A bit surprised, i must say
Afro-European
10-09-2009, 05:03 AM
Live on CNN
Holycrusader
10-09-2009, 05:04 AM
Nothing on BBC yet.. I do not believe it!
JamesW
10-09-2009, 05:04 AM
Seriously? What peace has he made? Sounds like a load of sycophantic crap to me...
Andreas
10-09-2009, 05:05 AM
Just announced, i find it odd since he hasnt actually done anything yet.
The way I see it, he has 7 years to go before you can consider his accomplishments..
I will give him one thing though, he is bringing the US back into the international community,unlike his predecessor.
Cheers
Andreas
Marmot1
10-09-2009, 05:06 AM
For what ???? :cantbeli::cantbeli::cantbeli:
Derbedeu
10-09-2009, 05:06 AM
Nothing on BBC yet.. I do not believe it!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/
PeterG
10-09-2009, 05:06 AM
"For his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international unity", Etc..
Zarak
10-09-2009, 05:07 AM
wttttttttttttfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Moledet
10-09-2009, 05:07 AM
Since some ludicrous people won it in recent years, this prize doesn't bring much respect to anyone.
Octavariable
10-09-2009, 05:08 AM
Wow, peace by words, Congrats to the Nobel award committee. :cantbeli:
Fiber
10-09-2009, 05:08 AM
That was fast Peter ;) I heard it on the radio, and turned it off to check this site when Jagland started talking in his broken English.
Personally I don't think Obama has earned it, yet. I agree with the argument the leader of the Nobel committee made, but the policies of Obama hasn't been put in effect. I thought Morgan Tsvangirai would get it and Obama would next year if his policies had been effective.
Evolv5
10-09-2009, 05:08 AM
Ah for **** sake.
Oh by the way, have you heard that Michael Jackson's dead?
Zarak
10-09-2009, 05:09 AM
Personally I don't think Obama has earned it, yet.
Seriously, I had always thought that a person had to actually accomplish something to get a Nobel Peace Prize. I guess I was wrong.
Britishhawk
10-09-2009, 05:10 AM
How many of these threads is there?!
Evolv5
10-09-2009, 05:10 AM
Seriously, I had always thought that a person had to actually accomplish something to get a Nobel Peace Prize. I guess I was wrong.
He's black and became predsident.
That's the biggest effort to promote world peace. EVAH.
Kilimunati
10-09-2009, 05:11 AM
Nothing on BBC yet.. I do not believe it!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm
better believe it
Derbedeu
10-09-2009, 05:12 AM
Repost:
http://militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=166627
Kilimunati
10-09-2009, 05:13 AM
Awesome Baby!
What the hell? He's just 9 months in charge..
Afro-European
10-09-2009, 05:13 AM
Mod(s) lock.
Evolv5
10-09-2009, 05:13 AM
Haha, let's make a thread in every section :D *kidding*
Octavariable
10-09-2009, 05:14 AM
How many of these threads is there?!
About the same as the number pf people who don't know why he won.
Difool
10-09-2009, 05:14 AM
Excuse me, what? I'm very surprised. Not that I don't like him but he is president since half a year and has achieved nothing that would justify this price. Or am I mistaken?
Bunkers
10-09-2009, 05:14 AM
Seriously, I had always thought that a person had to actually accomplish something to get a Nobel Peace Prize. I guess I was wrong.He axed the missile defence in Europe which was a major source of tension. I think that did it. The geopolitical impact of that can hardly be matched by the other candidates.
Fiber
10-09-2009, 05:14 AM
Zarak: Obama has achieved something. If you listen to what the leader of the committee said (if you can understand his broken English). His main point was the drive for nuclear disarmament. Nuclear disarmament hasn't been an issue for many years until Obama put it on the table. Making it an issue on a global scale is an achievement. Is it worthy of a Nobel Peace prize? I don't think so. As I said earlier...if they had waited until the actual disarmament had taken place..then he would have earned it.
Holycrusader
10-09-2009, 05:15 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm
better believe it
Oh, the horror...
Strange decission. So Obama will get some bucks - how much is Nobel prize now?
Japidson
10-09-2009, 05:16 AM
For what ???? :cantbeli::cantbeli::cantbeli:
There must be something in the background...p-)
how much is Nobel prize now? 1M€
Kilimunati
10-09-2009, 05:16 AM
Watch out, the rage begins.
I think Iran has just been spared by this award. I don't see him using force any reason now that he's got the peace price.
Kilimunati
10-09-2009, 05:16 AM
Oh, the horror...
Strange decission. So Obama will get some bucks - how much is Nobel prize now?
cool...$1.4 million I think
more shoes for michelle !!! :grin:
Derbedeu
10-09-2009, 05:17 AM
Oh, the horror...
Strange decission. So Obama will get some bucks - how much is Nobel prize now?
How about actually reading the article he linked you to in order to find out?
Kilgor
10-09-2009, 05:17 AM
Nah, the right wingers are going to go apesh1t over this one.
And I have to agree, he's done nothing.
Zarak
10-09-2009, 05:18 AM
Zarak: Obama has achieved something. If you listen to what the leader of the committee said (if you can understand his broken English). His main point was the drive for nuclear disarmament. Nuclear disarmament hasn't been an issue for many years until Obama put it on the table. Making it an issue on a global scale is an achievement. Is it worthy of a Nobel Peace prize? I don't think so. As I said earlier...if they had waited until the actual disarmament had taken place..then he would have earned it.
Lots of people for decades have talked about nuclear disarmament. They never gave Nobel Peace Prizes out like candy to those people because the easiest thing to do in the world is talk.
Kilimunati
10-09-2009, 05:18 AM
What a joke...
joke? who do you nominate? Saakashvili?
LOL :D
The Nobel committee probably just wants to invite him over for dinner, but they're too shy to just ask him.
Derbedeu
10-09-2009, 05:19 AM
Nah, the right wingers are going to go apesh1t over this one.
And I have to agree, he's done nothing.
I think Glenn Beck will have a stroke. :-D
crush6655
10-09-2009, 05:20 AM
This makes the Nobel price less worthy..
What has he achieved other than being born black with good charisma ?
TheKiwi
10-09-2009, 05:20 AM
I think Iran has just been spared by this award. I don't see him using force any reason now that he's got the peace price.
Kissenger got the prize for his work in bring peace to Vietnam. Don't think it works that way.
Kilimunati
10-09-2009, 05:21 AM
I think Glenn Beck will have a stroke. :-D
Hannity will give him CPR :)
Kilimunati
10-09-2009, 05:22 AM
Kissenger got the prize for his work in bring peace to Vietnam. Don't think it works that way.
I hope ur right though
nullterm
10-09-2009, 05:23 AM
Come on guys, was that Beer Summit settlement between the cop and professor not a great step forward for humanity? We're talking Bud Light here people!
joke? who do you nominate? Saakashvili?
I'd rather nominate Borat. He's been on the job a lot longer.
Robert.V
10-09-2009, 05:24 AM
Okay, for what !?
Kilimunati
10-09-2009, 05:25 AM
I'd rather nominate Borat. He's been on the job a lot longer.
roflrofl ...Nice...I like
Come on guys, was that Beer Summit settlement between the cop and professor not a great step forward for humanity? We're talking Bud Light here people!
roflroflrofl
Difool
10-09-2009, 05:26 AM
joke? who do you nominate? Saakashvili?
Well, I'm not sure if he hasn't been nominated. I mean even Hitler was nominated in 1939 and Stalin even twice.
Bunkers
10-09-2009, 05:26 AM
Sry for repeating myself but he abandoned the plans for a missile defence in Europe. By this he made a positive impact on the current geopolitical tensions that no other candidate could match.
There ya have it.
Fiber
10-09-2009, 05:27 AM
Lots of people for decades have talked about nuclear disarmament. They never gave Nobel Peace Prizes out like candy to those people because the easiest thing to do in the world is talk.
Sure they have...but they have not been sitting at the big boys table. Obama does and he talks the talk. As I wrote earlier..I think they have should have waited until they could see him walk the walk. I don't think Obama has done enough the earn the prize, but he has done something.
signatory
10-09-2009, 05:31 AM
Another man.
Apparently there's no women doing anything important.
Looks more like those Norwegian ex-politicans has a hardon for Democrats... Gore, Carter, Obama ..
Rakki
10-09-2009, 05:32 AM
Geez, they couldn't even wait until his presidency is finished to judge the results, but award him the Peace Prize for Hopechange?
If good intentions is what it takes to win the Peace Prize, then the thing would be a dime a dozen.
Korath
10-09-2009, 05:34 AM
Who shall I sue for damaging my PC? I spat coffee all over it when I saw the news... WFT?
BTW, I seriously doubt it will have any impact on Iran situation whatsoever.
seruriermarshal
10-09-2009, 05:34 AM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Kilimunati
10-09-2009, 05:35 AM
Geez, they couldn't even wait until his presidency is finished to judge the results, but award him the Peace Prize for Hopechange?
If good intentions is what it takes to win the Peace Prize, then the thing would be a dime a dozen.
Geez!! Nobel price is not an award for presidential achievement. you can argue something else not that.
Korath
10-09-2009, 05:37 AM
Now honestly, I'd place this award along other "historic" achievements of the Nobel Committee like Rabin-Peres-Araft award...
Steak-Sauce
10-09-2009, 05:37 AM
Well, that's comes as a surprise.
Derbedeu
10-09-2009, 05:39 AM
Interesting quote:
Asked why the prize had been awarded to Mr Obama less than a year after he took office, Nobel committee head Thorbjoern Jagland said: "It was because we would like to support what he is trying to achieve".
"It is a clear signal that we want to advocate the same as he has done," he said.
He specifically mentioned Mr Obama's work to strengthen international institutions and work towards a world free of nuclear arms.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm
Almost as deserving as Al Gore.
Zarak
10-09-2009, 05:39 AM
"Prize proposals must be submitted to the Nobel Committees on or before January 31 of the award year."
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/416856/Nobel-Prize
So this was proposed even BEFORE he did NOTHING.
****ing amazing world we live in.
Erik Sleivöks
10-09-2009, 05:42 AM
Aghhh… Norway’s “vision” of world peace is always “particular”
However as long as the don’t give it to Ahmadinejad it should be OK
Connaught Ranger
10-09-2009, 05:42 AM
Another man.
Apparently there's no women doing anything important.
Looks more like those Norwegian ex-politicans has a hardon for Democrats... Gore, Carter, Obama ..
I think a Romanian-German authoress picked up a prize, apparently wrote a book about life under the Romanian Communist Dictator Ceausescu while being a dissedent, (If WW2 had gone the other way she could have wrote a book about being the daughter of a SS Officer under the Thurd Reich)p-)
Connaught Ranger.
"Prize proposals must be submitted to the Nobel Committees on or before January 31 of the award year."
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/416856/Nobel-Prize
So this was proposed even BEFORE he did NOTHING.
****ing amazing world we live in.
"It was because we would like to support what he is trying to achieve".
"It is a clear signal that we want to advocate the same as he has done," he said.
hahaha, this is too hilarious. They should have just written "googoo gaga" as their explanation. rofl
Octavariable
10-09-2009, 05:44 AM
I think the award should have gone to Bush, him leaving office is the greatest achievement to world peace rofl
PsihoKeke
10-09-2009, 05:47 AM
Nobel Peace Prize is bull****, they simply award it to some feel good person. In the past they at least had decency to not give the prize at all if there was no real candidate.
signatory
10-09-2009, 05:47 AM
I think a Romanian-German authoress picked up a prize, apparently wrote a book about life under the Romanian Communist Dictator Ceausescu while being a dissedent, (If WW2 had gone the other way she could have wrote a book about being the daughter of a SS Officer under the Thurd Reich)p-)
Connaught Ranger.
Yes, I was only talking about the peace prize which is handed out by a bunch of politically opinionated Norwegians.
The other prices is real and quite serious. Non-political ones from Sweden :)
Blue387
10-09-2009, 05:53 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/10/world/10nobel.html
I'll let you read what they wrote:
“The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama’s vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.”
“Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama’s initiative, the United States is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.”
“Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world’s population,” the citation said.
“For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world’s leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama’s appeal that “Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges.”
As one who voted for Obama, this is a complete surprise.
Haha... Adolf Hitler + Josef Stalin, Benito Mussolini..
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4825/123cx.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/123cx.jpg/)
Erik Sleivöks
10-09-2009, 05:55 AM
Yes, I was only talking about the peace prize which is handed out by a bunch of politically opinionated Norwegians.
The other prices is real and quite serious. Non-political ones from Sweden :)
So correct and true… unfortunately…:cantbeli:
HorrigEn
10-09-2009, 05:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdWa6UvqPi4
mockery I say!
afreu
10-09-2009, 05:57 AM
I really like Obama, but this is just ridiculous!
PeterG
10-09-2009, 06:02 AM
I bet Rush Limbaugh will start popping pills again
WTF!
Nine months in charge and he gets a Nobel? for what? being a liar, a fraud and a fantasist? Jesus, the guys got more alias than a career criminal, spent £1 MILLION so far hiding his past from the people of the USA, lives in the pocket of big pharma, and that deserves a Nobel prize?
wilhelm
10-09-2009, 06:03 AM
Not being an American, I don't have any particular opinions about Obama.
Having said that, I have no idea why everybody is so upset. The Nobel Peace Prize has long been a joke IMHO. Basically worthless.
A brief perusal of candidates and actual winners confirms this........
Red-Phos
10-09-2009, 06:03 AM
What for he has done **** all?
This decision will depreciate the value of Nobel Peace prize for long period of time.
Plus it will rather damage the reputation of Obama.
VAMAN
10-09-2009, 06:06 AM
Nobel prize is a sham seriously. Specially Nobel Peace prize is politically motivated first Jimmy Carter got it for doing nothing now Obama.
Player
10-09-2009, 06:08 AM
Great news! He fully deserves it.
Congratulations Mr. Obama!
P.S. To those who are so surprised: Have you been living under a rock? Obama has done more than enough! ~His struggle for peace, international co-operation (especially between the West and Russia, he HAS actually eased tension and opened door for a peaceful and safe future in this aspect) and nuclear disarmament. And what do you think? The world would become better in one day of his presidency? And yet just take a look at what he has already done (and is doing) for his nation and the world, all this just in a few months! He is the most genuine president you could get, considering how hard it is to stay clean while being a politician, and especially so a leader.
Universal_Soldier
10-09-2009, 06:09 AM
I bet Rush Limbaugh will start popping pills again
roflroflrofl
-Max2-
10-09-2009, 06:10 AM
The Nobel Prize is overrated.
Player
10-09-2009, 06:10 AM
The Nobel Prize is overrated.
But Obama is not. ;)
von Clausewitz
10-09-2009, 06:12 AM
Obviously, political decision. This should improve his undermined rating!
Nobel prize should be abolished!
Kilimunati
10-09-2009, 06:13 AM
Nobel prize is a sham seriously. Specially Nobel Peace prize is politically motivated first Jimmy Carter got it for doing nothing now Obama.
Jimmy Carter for doing nothing? you should hit books a bit on this one. You can argue the merits of what he did but to claim that he did nothing is just ignorance.
Kilimunati
10-09-2009, 06:16 AM
Obviously, political decision. This should improve his undermined rating!
Nobel prize should be abolished!
Yea because you said so...:grin:....are you sad?
A bit surprised, i must sayRidiculous!
Obamessiah, Obamadeus...Now he's ennobled with the Nobel Peace Prize. Seriously, for what? For that little bit of a course correction in America's foreign policy?
Well, maybe he needs the money after his expensive campaign?
GiladS
10-09-2009, 06:17 AM
This decision will depreciate the value of Nobel Peace prize for long period of time.
As if awarding it to Arafat wasn't enough p-)
http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/wp-images/arafattoon.bmp
AgentX
10-09-2009, 06:19 AM
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1363/stobamaofassisi.jpg
mm ...mm...mmm!
Nobel Peace prize is a bloody joke. That, and it looks like /b/ tards have hijacked their committee.
Breakfast in Vegas
10-09-2009, 06:20 AM
If true, it's utterly ridiculous.
Then again, doesn't Arafat have one?
Good company.... not.
Kilimunati
10-09-2009, 06:20 AM
As if awarding it to Arafat wasn't enough p-)
If the dollar continues to fall, then they should move the price money to Euros. I think that should do it.:)
von Clausewitz
10-09-2009, 06:21 AM
Yea because you said so...:grin:....are you sad?
Not at all!
Today is a beautiful sunny day! :)
Blue387
10-09-2009, 06:22 AM
And now some video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPv_t6HHEHI
While I am a supporter of President Obama, unlike many of you folks, surely there are other, more deserving individuals or groups? Who do you think should win?
The people who make Plumpy'nut or the One Laptop per Child people deserve this.
Loki77
10-09-2009, 06:27 AM
Nobody takes that committee seriously anymore, anyway.
tony6
10-09-2009, 06:30 AM
Actually the guy really deserves it.
Only the substantiation statement should be slightly different:
"For his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international peace by dismounting american defence industry"
Looking at what he's doing with major US defence programs (F-22, alternative engine for JSF and many others) I have to say that the peace prize is well deserved.
LazerLordz
10-09-2009, 06:32 AM
Great news! He fully deserves it.
Congratulations Mr. Obama!
P.S. To those who are so surprised: Have you been living under a rock? Obama has done more than enough! ~His struggle for peace, international co-operation (especially between the West and Russia, he HAS actually eased tension and opened door for a peaceful and safe future in this aspect) and nuclear disarmament. And what do you think? The world would become better in one day of his presidency? And yet just take a look at what he has already done (and is doing) for his nation and the world, all this just in a few months! He is the most genuine president you could get, considering how hard it is to stay clean while being a politician, and especially so a leader.
Seconded. Though I would say that he's got bigger shoes to fill now. The award might not have been timely, IMHO.
Pollo Pion
10-09-2009, 06:33 AM
Simply incredible. The Nobel Awards Comitee must be drunk or really high on I don´t know what to give Mr. Obama that award. On the other side they gave that prize to Arafat, who was a terrorist leader, so maybe it´s not so surprising, it´s only that they are a bunch of mad people who need to justify their job so they take decisions without any real support.
zapatero
10-09-2009, 06:34 AM
Nobel Prize Comitee tremendous FAIL.
Chimera
10-09-2009, 06:39 AM
Obama will bring America to its downfall.
hskywalker
10-09-2009, 06:40 AM
May not be a perfect choice, but not necessirily a bad one.
Tsvangirai, along with Chinese dissident Hu Jia and and Colombian senator Piedad Cordoba, were seen as favorites, Norwegian broadcaster NRK reported Friday ahead of the announcement
The first two are very controversial. Don't know about the last one.
I would choose obama too.
tony6
10-09-2009, 06:40 AM
The decission is nothing but the effect of post-Bush trauma wide-spread along European Union. Being not Bush is good enough for a Nobel Prize.
That's pathetic.
GiladS
10-09-2009, 06:40 AM
Simply incredible. The Nobel Awards Comitee must be drunk or really high on I don´t know what to give Mr. Obama that award. On the other side they gave that prize to Arafat, who was a terrorist leader, so maybe it´s not so surprising, it´s only that they are a bunch of mad people who need to justify their job so they take decisions without any real support.
The non-scientific Nobel prizes have always been politically motivated.
Guess they thought he needed a pat on the back to motivate him to continue his current policies as he's losing support among his voters.
Blue387
10-09-2009, 06:43 AM
You know, I sense a lot of personal hatred for Obama in this thread.
Stonewall71
10-09-2009, 06:44 AM
Congratz!
..............................
Difool
10-09-2009, 06:48 AM
Congratulations!
The non-scientific Nobel prizes have always been politically motivated.
Yes. This and that the U.S.A. seem to have bought nearly all Nobel prizes this year. :)
Plus it will rather damage the reputation of Obama.
Interesting point! May be very true for the U.S.A. but I doubt that most Europeans see it that way. As for the Arabic world: I really don't know.
If the dollar continues to fall, then they should move the price money to Euros. I think that should do it.:)
roflroflrofl
LazerLordz
10-09-2009, 06:48 AM
May not be a perfect choice, but not necessirily a bad one.
The first two are very controversial. Don't know about the last one.
I would choose obama too.
Agreed. If Tsvangirai and Obama shared the award, it might have looked much more realistic.
Fiber
10-09-2009, 06:55 AM
If the dollar continues to fall, then they should move the price money to Euros. I think that should do it.:)
It's in SEK not USD.
madjack
10-09-2009, 07:02 AM
A bit surprised, i must say
A Nobel prize? Do they give them out now for perfect attendance?
Breakfast in Vegas
10-09-2009, 07:03 AM
You know, I sense a lot of personal hatred for Obama in this thread.You know, I sense a disturbance in the Force.
A Nobel prize? Do they give them out now for perfect attendance?Smoooothhh... )
supercontra
10-09-2009, 07:03 AM
Two questions. Why and for what?
He has done nothing so far to create any form of peace anywhere. Is it a pre-emptive peace price?
Bifrost
10-09-2009, 07:04 AM
This "peace" prize was always sick with butchers like Mandela and Arafat in the line. Now we have Mr. Obama in that awesome company :roll:. He can now hangout with Mandela and Bono and do the "singing-saving" Africa thing. This is some ass kissing masterpiece by Norway.
Can we finally have a Nobel WAR prize?
Stefan850
10-09-2009, 07:04 AM
Congratulations to Obama.
squidO
10-09-2009, 07:04 AM
The non-scientific Nobel prizes have always been politically motivated.
Guess they thought he needed a pat on the back to motivate him to continue his current policies as he's losing support among his voters.
Actuallly, it looks like a bribe in attempt to influence another country's policy. Now he will have to work hard, proving to the Norwegians that he deserved his money.
The most smart thing that he can do now, is to thank and to refuse to accept the prize.
just announced, i find it odd since he hasnt actually done anything yet.
The way i see it, he has 7 years to go before you can consider his accomplishments..
I will give him one thing though, he is bringing the us back into the international community,unlike his predecessor.
Cheers
andreas
Are you kidding me?!
**** it, I'm leaving. Sweden and Norway can from now on suck it. I'm moving to Denmark.
This is embarrassing.
Divine
10-09-2009, 07:11 AM
Well, can that clown Gore win the price why not Obama:cantbeli:
Congrats to Obama!
Jaglands reasoning for the prize seems sound. Though I am very surprised.
Personally I would have thought a split prize between the Council of Europe and it's Secretary General was the more likely alternative, it does after all have it's 60 year anniversary p-)
Kudos to those who get the pun....
Anyway, I look forward to reading all the Republican and right wing messages of congratulations to Obama in this thread.rofl
No time now, I have an exam on Monday:-(
What the fff? What for? He didn't do anything which falls into the category of creating peace. He didn't intervene anywhere, he didn't end a hundred year old conflict, he didn't do anything. It's just like saying hey, Angela Merkel/Gordon Brown/Nicolas Sarkozy won the Nobel Peace Prize. For what?????!?!?!?!? I AM MAAAAAAAAAD. And not mad because he's black or I am against him or any of that sht, just because this is stupid and absurd.
GiladS
10-09-2009, 07:17 AM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=166627
JBH22
10-09-2009, 07:20 AM
surprised he didn't even get time to do anything..
would be better if he got it at the end of his term atleast he would have his end result backing his award..
Fiber
10-09-2009, 07:23 AM
Why are the teabaggers who claim the Nobel Peace Prize has no value so angry? If the prize has no meaning then this is a non-issue.
budgie
10-09-2009, 07:27 AM
Excuse me, what? I'm very surprised. Not that I don't like him but he is president since half a year and has achieved nothing that would justify this price. Or am I mistaken?
You are not mistaken sir. It seems pretty premature when he hasn't done anything spectacular. Goes to show the Nobel Prize thing is becoming a popularity contest more than anything else.
commanding
10-09-2009, 07:27 AM
Congrats to Pres. Obama! I suspect if there is anyone for peace...it is him. I on the otherhand, subscribe to the old saying "turn turn turn, there is a season for everything..."
antiallegory
10-09-2009, 07:28 AM
"Off Topic and Humor "
What did you expect ?
This is fukcing joke
commanding
10-09-2009, 07:30 AM
You are not mistaken sir. It seems pretty premature when he hasn't done anything spectacular. Goes to show the Nobel Prize thing is becoming a popularity contest more than anything else.
I agree it has become a popularity contest (not unlike middle schools) but those guys who make the rules for the Peace Prize, make their rules, and "dem that makes the rules", call the shots. (play on words intended)
JBH22
10-09-2009, 07:33 AM
You are not mistaken sir. It seems pretty premature when he hasn't done anything spectacular. Goes to show the Nobel Prize thing is becoming a popularity contest more than anything else.
Yup fully agree with you:cantbeli:
Why are the teabaggers who claim the Nobel Peace Prize has no value so angry? If the prize has no meaning then this is a non-issue.
Maybe because it once had some value but recent clearly political or otherwise poor decisions have stripped away the respect some had for Nobel prizes until recently.
Breerman
10-09-2009, 07:37 AM
I'm sorry Norwegians but Alfred Nobel should never have handed over the handling of the Peace Prize to this committee. It's evident their primary interest lies in drawing fame and prestige to Oslo.
Gentius
10-09-2009, 07:39 AM
I dont know what to say, I was shocked when I heard it. Kind of early for him to get the Nobel peace prize.
Eitherway, congratz to him.
Andreas
10-09-2009, 07:39 AM
A lot of sand in your nether parts today gentlemen...
Jurinko
10-09-2009, 07:43 AM
It could be worse. They could give it to Michael Jackson (posthumously).
Zarak
10-09-2009, 07:44 AM
Honestly, its a lot like giving the Nobel Prize in Chemistry to someone who just started their post-grad program yesterday. They might not have done anything of note YET but they MIGHT. :roll:
lightfire
10-09-2009, 07:44 AM
Is that the jealousness coming from the Anti-Obama rage camp?
Player
10-09-2009, 07:47 AM
They might not have done anything of note YET but they MIGHT. :roll:
This alone deserves some credit. Being a leader of a superpower and yet working on the behalf of humanity for peace and stability is more than one might expect from a politician.
CMNot
10-09-2009, 07:47 AM
Just announced, i find it odd since he hasnt actually done anything yet.
Racist.
My €0.02.
antiallegory
10-09-2009, 07:49 AM
It is not ani Obama range camp, it is anti stupidity/injustice camp
Hilbert
10-09-2009, 07:49 AM
This is just silly. What has he done? The man's been in office less than a year and hasn't made any major accomplishments. While I do respect and am all for the way he's chosen to handle Russia and missile defense as opposed to Bush, thats hardly cause for an award.
Silly, silly, silly.
-Hilde
Telmar
10-09-2009, 08:01 AM
Obama's popularity is going to come crashing down from the heights at which he is projected now.
Whatever the mans ends up doing, positive or negative, will not change the fact that only deception can come from the image that he has right now.
As for the comittee, I think that a Peace Prize should come as the achievement of something a little more tangible.
Barack Obama has won the Nobel Peace prize and I’m still reeling at the shock. Most of us are, I should think.
Here are my theories as to how it might have come about:
1. Unlike in most of the rest of the world Øbama Køøl Aid (TM) remains Oslo’s most popular beverage.
2. The Norwegian prize committee’s sense of irony is growing ever more sophisticated, as it hinted when it gave the prize in 2002 to comedy ex-president Jimmy Carter, and hinted more strongly when it gave the prize in 2007 to climate-fear-promoting comedy failed-president Al Gore.
3. The other candidates on the shortlist were Robert Mugabe; Osama Bin Laden; Ahmed Jibril; and the late Pol Pot.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100013074/obamas-won-the-nobel-peace-wtf/
Comedy gold.
It could be worse. They could give it to Michael Jackson (posthumously).You're probably closer to the truth than you might think. They'll always find explanations even to honor a weirdo like Jacko. You know, the singer who brought two races together or something like that...
Breakfast in Vegas
10-09-2009, 08:06 AM
You're probably closer to the truth than you might think. They'll always find explanations even to honor a weirdo like Jacko. You know, the singer who brought two races together or something like that...Kayne West.
VAMAN
10-09-2009, 08:23 AM
Jimmy Carter for doing nothing? you should hit books a bit on this one. You can argue the merits of what he did but to claim that he did nothing is just ignorance.
Okay point taken. Carter mediated in many international conflicts. But where is that elusive peace? Situation is still the same in those regions. In my opinion a Nobel Peace Prize should be given to a person who has shown results, just like scientists get Nobel prizes in their disciplines.
Stainless Steel Rat
10-09-2009, 08:26 AM
Well, as a supporter of President Obama (and I'm a 50-something white male from Alabama, not exactly his demographic...), I am also a bit nonplussed at this.
With other Presidents who have won the prize (Teddy Roosevelt and Jimmy Carter, IIRC), at least they had accomplishments to justify it (TR for negotiating the end to the Russo-Japanese war and Carter for the Camp David accords).
This award to Obama is more like a financial speculator investing in a promising stock hoping it will climb steadily higher. In the area of American and World politics, this is a very risky business.
Still, can't hurt.
YMMV
happyslapper
10-09-2009, 08:29 AM
Generally I'm encouraged by what Obama has been saying and doing since coming to office, but a nobel peace prize?!?! It just doesn't make sense.
gaijinsamurai
10-09-2009, 08:35 AM
You are not mistaken sir. It seems pretty premature when he hasn't done anything spectacular. Goes to show the Nobel Prize thing is becoming a popularity contest more than anything else.
x2. I respect a lot of his intentions, but it seems to me like he really hasn't actually ACHIEVED anything at this time.
gaijinsamurai
10-09-2009, 08:37 AM
By the way, I'm surprised that my good buddy Jobu hasn't chimed in on this thread yet!
x2. I respect a lot of his intentions, but it seems to me like he really hasn't actually ACHIEVED anything at this time.
Maybe he did something for peace in Chicago.
Lasse
10-09-2009, 08:40 AM
I am lost for words, this is plain stupid. Even according to db.no, 50% of the users (~37000 total) think that he didn't deserve it.
Further underscoring what a joke the Nobel Peace Prize is. What a bunch of clowns that selection committee is. :lol:
CS1.6
10-09-2009, 08:42 AM
what???
why???
is it just because he is the president of US???
Zoomie
10-09-2009, 08:46 AM
Maybe he did something for peace in Chicago.
Clearly you've not seen the news on Chicago lately.
vryhpyammoadded
10-09-2009, 08:59 AM
WTF? I might actually tune into talk radio to enjoy the ranting. I wonder which host will stroke out. Hahahahhah…
LineDoggie
10-09-2009, 08:59 AM
It's Official, they think he is the Messiah, He gets an award for 10 days work and his dad created the world in 7.
kitatatsumi
10-09-2009, 09:01 AM
Even if I don't like him, I am happy to hear that anyone from my country has won a Nobel prize. Even better if he is our President.... I'm just weird that way, call me patriotic or crazy.
But my question is this:
Why is 9 months enough time to say that Obama has ruined the country and has royally screwed everything up.
Yet, 9 months is NOT enough time for someone else to say Obama has done a great deal of good.
Doesn't make sense. Nine months is not enough time to applaud someone, but is plenty of time to condemn someone.
Funny.
It's Official, they think he is the Messiah, He gets an award for 10 days work and his dad created the world in 7.
Gonna be damn interesting when they get to the bit with the nails and the cross. Can we book tickets or will it be pay per view?
commanding
10-09-2009, 09:02 AM
Will Obama's nose get any higher? will his facial expression become even more aloof?
So what does the Nobel Peace prize actually look like? Is it a plaque or a medal or what?
LineDoggie
10-09-2009, 09:04 AM
You know, I sense a lot of personal hatred for Obama in this thread.Funny I sense scyophancy for Obama here among some, guess it evens out......
So what does the Nobel Peace prize actually look like? Is it a plaque or a medal or what?Think it's a red t-shirt.
commanding
10-09-2009, 09:04 AM
Even if I don't like him, I am happy to hear that anyone from my country has won a Nobel prize. Even better if he is our President.... I'm just weird that way, call me patriotic or crazy.
But my question is this:
Why is 9 months enough time to say that Obama has ruined the country and has royally screwed everything up.
Yet, 9 months is NOT enough time for someone else to say Obama has done a great deal of good.
Doesn't make sense. Nine months is not enough time to applaud someone, but is plenty of time to condemn someone.
Funny.
From what I read, the time span between the nomination deadline and his taking office was about 2 weeks. So someone decided within two weeks of his taking office, that he was a nominee for the NPP. That seems a tad presumptious to me.
I'd rather give the money to someone who can make something good with it...
commanding
10-09-2009, 09:05 AM
Think it's a red t-shirt.
With Che's picture on it?
welshmann
10-09-2009, 09:05 AM
Will Obama's nose get any higher? will his facial expression become even more aloof?
So what does the Nobel Peace prize actually look like? Is it a plaque or a medal or what?
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://images.ibox.bg/2006/10/09/nobel/519x389.jpg&imgrefurl=http://international.ibox.bg/news/id_1101752876&usg=__h4R7Ofoi_SfDCjQBiyaGpbMa8Bc=&h=389&w=519&sz=28&hl=en&start=15&um=1&tbnid=0nMQwumRB9gt-M:&tbnh=98&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnobel%2Bpeace%2Bprize%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
plus they get a ****load of prize money over a mill i think.
kitatatsumi
10-09-2009, 09:07 AM
From what I read, the time span between the nomination deadline and his taking office was about 2 weeks. So someone decided within two weeks of his taking office, that he was a nominee for the NPP. That seems a tad presumptious to me.
Which is still more time than some people gave him.
IraGlacialis
10-09-2009, 09:08 AM
You have serious got to be kidding me. You have seriously have got to be ****ing kidding me. As previous posts have suggested, I am not one to rag on the guy, but what the **** has he done to earn the Nobel Peace Prize? I don't see peace descending upon Afghanistan.
So what does the Nobel Peace prize actually look like? Is it a plaque or a medal or what?
It is a medal. I'm not sure about the Peace prize, but the science ones include like a million bucks with them as well.
b0sco
10-09-2009, 09:08 AM
http://i37.tinypic.com/mb7n1v.jpg
GB_FXST
10-09-2009, 09:13 AM
Will Obama's nose get any higher? will his facial expression become even more aloof?
So what does the Nobel Peace prize actually look like? Is it a plaque or a medal or what?
While I think that the Nobel Peace Prize has become irrelevant, the recipients obviously do not. This is another nail in its coffin. A prize for talking.
Obama’s ever growing ego and self righteousness is my exact concern. His vision for world peace conflicts with reality. Nevertheless, he will now push even harder for unsustainable and unrealistic peace, which will likely bring about just the opposite.
LineDoggie
10-09-2009, 09:15 AM
Even if I don't like him, I am happy to hear that anyone from my country has won a Nobel prize. Even better if he is our President.... I'm just weird that way, call me patriotic or crazy.
But my question is this:
Why is 9 months enough time to say that Obama has ruined the country and has royally screwed everything up.
Yet, 9 months is NOT enough time for someone else to say Obama has done a great deal of good.
Doesn't make sense. Nine months is not enough time to applaud someone, but is plenty of time to condemn someone.
Funny.
Where is Obamas Camp David Accords? Jimmy carter could at least have that
Where is Obamas SALT talks with Russia?
Where is Obamas peace talks with North Korea?
Where is Obamas peace talks with Iran?
Where is Obamas peace agreement in negotiating a Honduras settlement?
Where is Obamas peace talks with the Taliban?
Honest, rational assessment. Other than not being Bush, what has he accomplished upon the international stage?
If he had gotten Iran or North Korea to give up Nukes then I would be impressed
But he hasnt has he?
Name something TANGIBLE he did to deserve it, Convince me.....
seasch
10-09-2009, 09:17 AM
Even though I like (or at least I don't hate) Obama, I thought it was a joke. I can even understand why Arafat got a Nobel Peace Prize, but Obama? WTF!
Geezah
10-09-2009, 09:18 AM
Ah, oh well, I really don't think it means sh!te, after all Hilter was nominated, along with Tookie Williams. Al(I invented the internet) got it, so what exactly does it mean anymore.
I must say I am surprised though, being a community organiser works for all the right people.......
Chulo
10-09-2009, 09:24 AM
Since some ludicrous people won it in recent years, this prize doesn't bring much respect to anyone.
Yea, the prize is starting to mean less and less.
Then again.. Michele Obama was on Maxims top 100 list of hottest women (which until then i would normally agree with)
Yea, the prize is starting to mean less and less.
Then again.. Michele Obama was on Maxims top 100 list of hottest women (which until then i would normally agree with)
Are you kidding? I would bonk-a-bonk that first lady like thers a nucelar holocaust commin'.
stevej
10-09-2009, 09:28 AM
I am really looking forward to the justifications and reasons for him winning it that the media are going to come up with :)
I think I will nominate myself for next years noble peace prize. I have not achieved anything yet, but I reckon I have lots of potential.
"Prize proposals must be submitted to the Nobel Committees on or before January 31 of the award year."
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/416856/Nobel-Prize
So this was proposed even BEFORE he did NOTHING.
****ing amazing world we live in.
So am I.
I am truly AMAZED. He was submitted at best 11 days into his presidency...
And yes the Nobel Peace Prize is a joke, except that for many many people it will be the ultimate sales argument. Either because they don't get the essence of it or because they want to be part of the "intellectual" crew.
Good luck winning the elections GOP.
Ordie
10-09-2009, 09:35 AM
Congrats Mr. President!!!
He's not the first President to get the prize.
Both Presidents Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt received the Peace Prize.
brainplay
10-09-2009, 09:37 AM
But my question is this:
Why is 9 months enough time to say that Obama has ruined the country and has royally screwed everything up.
Yet, 9 months is NOT enough time for someone else to say Obama has done a great deal of good.
Doesn't make sense. Nine months is not enough time to applaud someone, but is plenty of time to condemn someone.
Funny.
Not nine months. All submissions have to be filed by January 31. Pres. Obama was inaugurated on Jan. 20. So he was in office 11 days before someone nominated him and the committee is supposed to base their decision on all events from the submission and before. In short, anything having to do with nuclear disarmament would be grounds for a nomination for the year 2010, not 2009. Fortunately for him the committee is more than happy to violate their own rules and charter.
Chulo
10-09-2009, 09:38 AM
A Nobel prize? Do they give them out now for perfect attendance?Yup, he voted "Present"
It is not ani Obama range camp, it is anti stupidity/injustice campNot sure about the Injustice, but considering the recent past recipients, the Nobel has started to be a joke
Maybe he did something for peace in Chicago.
Well he couldn't teleprompt the Olympics, but was still able to send $30 million to deal with this new "youth violence"
what???
why???
is it just because he is the president of US???
Actually.... yes, that was the reasoning they gave. He was not Bush.
Which is still more time than some people gave him.
Awww.. go cry me a river. Why dont you list 3 things that he has accomplised, and we will list 6 things that he has failed in.
LineDoggie
10-09-2009, 09:43 AM
Congrats Mr. President!!!
He's not the first President to get the prize.
Both Presidents Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt received the Peace Prize. Teddy had actual accomplishments though
Breerman
10-09-2009, 09:44 AM
Not sure about the Injustice, but considering the recent past recipients, the Nobel has started to be a joke
This is the Nobel Peace Prize, handed out by a committee of the Norwegian Parliament. Not to be confused with receiving a Nobel Prize which mandates life long dedication and accomplishing something extraordinary in the field of science.
However, I don't see a problem with handing out the Peace Prize to controversial figures. Hitler and Stalin would have been good candidates if they would have accomplished a lasting peace.
NimDod
10-09-2009, 09:47 AM
maybe this is a consolation prize for the 2016 olympics vote?
http://www.youtube.com/v/YT5Kl38fSVY
Chulo
10-09-2009, 09:48 AM
Teddy had actual accomplishments though
Yea, but did he have a halo like Obama?
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2751/22257849.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/i/22257849.jpg/)
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1748/3397416370ab47a729b0.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/i/3397416370ab47a729b0.jpg/)
Solvent
10-09-2009, 09:48 AM
Surprised. This reward is getting more and more ridiculous.
Chulo
10-09-2009, 09:49 AM
This is the Nobel Peace Prize, handed out by a committee of the Norwegian Parliament. Not to be confused with receiving a Nobel Prize which mandates life long dedication and accomplishing something extraordinary in the field of science.
However, I don't see a problem with handing out the Peace Prize to controversial figures. Hitler and Stalin would have been good candidates if they would have accomplished a lasting peace.
You are right, they did have great potential for peace, no reason to give something of an achievement prize for "potential"
Ordie
10-09-2009, 09:50 AM
Teddy had actual accomplishments though
I'm shocked as well.
But one thing is for certain, we have a diplomacy driven President.
That is a good thing.
Ordie
10-09-2009, 09:50 AM
Surprised. This reward is getting more and more ridiculous.
You would think differently if Hu Jintao would've won the prize.
tluassa
10-09-2009, 09:52 AM
President Obama wins the nobel peace prize
http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1233928590_citizen%20kane%20clapping.gif
kitatatsumi
10-09-2009, 09:54 AM
Where is Obamas Camp David Accords? Jimmy carter could at least have that
Where is Obamas SALT talks with Russia?
Where is Obamas peace talks with North Korea?
Where is Obamas peace talks with Iran?
Where is Obamas peace agreement in negotiating a Honduras settlement?
Where is Obamas peace talks with the Taliban?
Honest, rational assessment. Other than not being Bush, what has he accomplished upon the international stage?
If he had gotten Iran or North Korea to give up Nukes then I would be impressed
But he hasnt has he?
Name something TANGIBLE he did to deserve it, Convince me.....
I could just as well ask for something tangible which allows people to condemn him.
I am not here to sing his praises or convince you of anything.
I am just pointing out that people are biased against him and certain people will oppose him no matter what he does. Same as certain people support him no matter what he does. So what the real difference between the idiots who follow him blindly and the other idiots who oppose him blindly?
That's all.
seraosha
10-09-2009, 09:54 AM
I think congratulations are in order for our President, as even as undervalued as the Nobel Peace Prize is currently, it's quite an honor.
But I'm concerned at the hight of the pedestal he is on...and it just keeps getting higher and higher. The expectations laid at his feet in the run-up to the election were unrealistic, to say the least...and now that he's been in office for such a short time, and has accomplished so little (so far) to now getting the Nobel...
It's beginning to look like a setup to me.
We humans don't have a good track record when it comes to "saviors".
Solvent
10-09-2009, 09:55 AM
You would think differently if Hu Jintao would've won the prize.
Did he win? If he wins, then we talk about it. And btw other ridiculous doesn't undo this ridiculious.
Jaeger07
10-09-2009, 10:01 AM
I dont think you ummericans understand how much the EU and the rest of the world hated G.W. Bush. Were so glad W. is out we'll give every ummerican president thats not GW Bush the peace prize.
Chew on that bitches! :)
0rphie
10-09-2009, 10:04 AM
This award is no less than a slap on the face of those who actually contributed to peace.
I dont think you ummericans understand how much the EU and the rest of the world hated G.W. Bush. Were so glad W. is out we'll give every ummerican president thats not GW Bush the peace prize.
Chew on that bitches! :)This word in english for the feeling you describe is butthurt. p-)
If I'm Obama this morning when he heard the news, I'm thinking "damnit! not this sh*t, not now...", knowing that half the country is going to be raising the bullsh*t flag on him right as he's deliberating some tough decisions that may come to define his presidency.
Fiber
10-09-2009, 10:09 AM
Loving the ads in this thread btw.
dracon49
10-09-2009, 10:14 AM
What he did that he won it?...as far as i know(and i dont know too much)he didnt make peace between countries or something like that.
Wimbly
10-09-2009, 10:15 AM
Obama has done NOTHING to deserve this award, which leads most thinking people to beleive there is something else going on here. Its pretty clear that this is a bribe to get Obama to do what these world leaders want and not so much what the American people might want.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6867711.ece
Comment: absurd decision on Obama makes a mockery of the Nobel peace prize
The award (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6867664.ece) of this year’s Nobel peace prize to President Obama will be met with widespread incredulity, consternation in many capitals and probably deep embarrassment by the President himself.
Rarely has an award had such an obvious political and partisan intent. It was clearly seen by the Norwegian Nobel committee as a way of expressing European gratitude for an end to the Bush Administration, approval for the election of America’s first black president and hope that Washington will honour its promise to re-engage with the world.
commanding
10-09-2009, 10:18 AM
I dont think you ummericans understand how much the EU and the rest of the world hated G.W. Bush. Were so glad W. is out we'll give every ummerican president thats not GW Bush the peace prize.
Chew on that bitches! :)
Perhaps we stupid ummericans should give the right to vote (in US elections) to the Eurpeans, and take it away from US citizens...allowing the US citizens only to pay the taxes to fund the projects the EU desires?
As for why the EU and the "rest of the world" hated G. W. Bush....I suspect it was mostly due not from any of his policies but from a "gut feeling" of dislike of the man...which is a pi$$ poor way to judge a leader's effectiveness as a political entity.
Danik
10-09-2009, 10:18 AM
Am I alone in thinking that this man can do absolutely nothing for his entire term and still be remembered as the greatest president of all time?
GB_FXST
10-09-2009, 10:19 AM
I dont think you ummericans understand how much the EU and the rest of the world hated G.W. Bush. Were so glad W. is out we'll give every ummerican president thats not GW Bush the peace prize.
Chew on that bitches! :)
Assuming that you are not a citizen of the US, why is your opinion on the sitting US President relevant? Why should US citizens be concerned with your opinion of the US president?
0rphie
10-09-2009, 10:21 AM
My other thought are that there must be a bigger play behind the scenes. What Mr."O" does is polarize the country even more than Mr. "B" did. The polarization will not be good for the US in the long run, which may result in diminishing the US role as the world leader. This may open an opportunity for the EU to get into the leader shows. But my predictions would be that Chinese would do it faster. The bottom line this prize was given to destabilize the US and as a death sentence to Israel.
He219
10-09-2009, 10:22 AM
lol; I wonder if this affects his ability to decide whether to send thousands of additional troops to Afghanistan ...
Verto
10-09-2009, 10:23 AM
I laughed for 20 minutes straight when I heard this this morning, literally, couldn't control myself, my gf thought I was crazy. Like the first time I saw Talladega Nights, I was on fire only the flames were invisible. Pure comedic gold, I mean really can you make this stuff up???
I could just as well ask for something tangible which allows people to condemn him.
I am not here to sing his praises or convince you of anything.
I am just pointing out that people are biased against him and certain people will oppose him no matter what he does. Same as certain people support him no matter what he does. So what the real difference between the idiots who follow him blindly and the other idiots who oppose him blindly?
That's all.
Not a single person in this thread has condemned or opposed the POTUS. Why you would even say that is anyone's guess.
What many people have condemned and opposed is:
a) his submission by the committee (at best 11 DAYS into his presidency).
b) him ultimately getting the prize by the Norwegian committee.
BTW: A quarter million people so far have voted on a couple of hours old AOL poll:
http://news.aol.com/article/president-barack-obama-wins-nobel-peace/710891?icid=main|htmlws-main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fpresident-barack-obama-wins-nobel-peace%2F710891 (http://news.aol.com/article/president-barack-obama-wins-nobel-peace/710891?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main%7Cdl1%7Clink3%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fpresident-barack-obama-wins-nobel-peace%2F710891)
0rphie
10-09-2009, 10:24 AM
I laughed for 20 minutes straight when I heard this this morning, literally, couldn't control myself, my gf thought I was crazy. Like the first time I saw Talladega Nights, I was on fire only the flames were invisible. Pure comedic gold, I mean really can you make this stuff up???
you are an Idi@t! I cried!
He219
10-09-2009, 10:24 AM
It's a Comedy-Tragedy for those who really deserve recognition.
Ssandro
10-09-2009, 10:26 AM
It's a sign of wishful thinking
And a symptom of the general climate which - whether for good reason or not - feels more warm-hearted towards america since obama took power
And even if he completely fails in every way as a president, he'll still not be the worse person to win this prize by a long way
Wimbly
10-09-2009, 10:27 AM
Assuming that you are not a citizen of the US, why is your opinion on the sitting US President relevant? Why should US citizens be concerned with your opinion of the US president?
I've noticed that since Obama was elected, non-Americans suddenly feel the need to slavishly defend our Democrat politicians. Its very perplexing since they don't vote for them and never will.
He219
10-09-2009, 10:31 AM
feels more warm-hearted towards america since obama took power
Then recognize the American People who elected him, not the fact that he's reversed course on most of his campaign promises .. and is about to send tens of thousands more troops to Afghanistan on top of the thousands he's already sent.
Nuclear disarmament? Reagan and Gorbachev did more in that realm ...
dc_b4.mc
10-09-2009, 10:33 AM
it's a fxxking joke
seriously, it's fxxking joke
- put aside my personal prejudice dislike despise of him, it is simply premature to award nobel peace prize for a president with less than a year of service, what if he started a war next year? refund the prize?
Let alone the appropriateness of rewarding a president in service
GB_FXST
10-09-2009, 10:33 AM
I've noticed that since Obama was elected, non-Americans suddenly feel the need to slavishly defend our Democrat politicians. Its very perplexing since they don't vote for them and never will.
Yeah, and I tend to think that they would cry foul if we were so vocal about their leaders.
It's a Comedy-Tragedy for those who really deserve recognition.
And in the long run, this is damaging for the Peace Prize itself... I mean, who the hell do the Nobel Committee think they are? This is clearly a political move and I get the feeling they are patronizing the American people by giving a 'cokie' for good will. Acting like a bunch of stuck up 'do-gooders' who clearly think they have some better insight to the world then the general public.
Edit: and I also get the feeling this actually will hurt the POTUS. See, the committee, being a bunch of stuck up elitist pansys, aren't able to grasp that the American public actually are quite intelligent and most likely will see through this move and call bull**** right away.
Nice work, ****wads.
F* that. There are tons of thousands of more deserving people out there who been doing wonders for mankind and this guy just waltzes in, doing nothing, and f*cking get the prize?
For the first time as a Swede I'm actually thinking of just ditching the peace prize - It clearly has played out its role and is now days hijacked by a bunch of leftover 'no-one-gives-a-rats-ass-about' Norwegian politicians...
I'm ashamed.
StickyPop
10-09-2009, 10:34 AM
Not a single person in this thread has condemned or opposed the POTUS. Why you would even say that is anyone's guess.
What many people have condemned and opposed is:
a) his submission by the committee (at best 11 DAYS into his presidency).
b) him ultimately getting the prize by the Norwegian committee.
BTW: A quarter million people so far have voted on a couple of hours old AOL poll:
http://news.aol.com/article/president-barack-obama-wins-nobel-peace/710891?icid=main|htmlws-main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fpresident-barack-obama-wins-nobel-peace%2F710891 (http://news.aol.com/article/president-barack-obama-wins-nobel-peace/710891?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main%7Cdl1%7Clink3%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fpresident-barack-obama-wins-nobel-peace%2F710891)
Daaaamn, that poll is craziness. That's a lot of people voting no.
11 days? I absolutely can't wait to hear the sh*tstorm that's going to come out of this situation
dc_b4.mc
10-09-2009, 10:34 AM
I've noticed that since Obama was elected, non-Americans suddenly feel the need to slavishly defend our Democrat politicians. Its very perplexing since they don't vote for them and never will.
Yes, and they will abandon them first whenever they like to protect their interest
TheSteve
10-09-2009, 10:38 AM
I think this award says more about the Nobel Peace Prize than it does about President Obama.
This is very odd odd, it must put Obama in a almost embarrising position. Its a bit early to judge what he has done so far. As Ordie pointed out, he isn't the first US President in office to receive the prize, but so early?
As for why the EU and the "rest of the world" hated G. W. Bush....I suspect it was mostly due not from any of his policies but from a "gut feeling" of dislike of the man...which is a pi$$ poor way to judge a leader's effectiveness as a political entity.
People didn't like him because of a "gut feeling"? I think you're on to something. I mean direct intervention in the middle east, yeah, most people really agreed with that, right? His warm and fuzzy foreign policy was met with great enthusiasm around the world. Torture? Extraordinary rendition? GITMO? Who doesn't love these things!
Derbedeu
10-09-2009, 10:39 AM
Let alone the appropriateness of rewarding a president in service
Both TR and Woodrow Wilson won it while they were in office. Personally, I don't see what's so inappropriate about awarding it to a head of state who holds office.
TriskSxm
10-09-2009, 10:39 AM
..."Nothing Accomplished" ... and he gets a Nobel Peace Prize? Alfred must be turning in his grave...
Euroamerican
10-09-2009, 10:43 AM
Assuming that you are not a citizen of the US, why is your opinion on the sitting US President relevant? Why should US citizens be concerned with your opinion of the US president?
I think everyone's opinion here is worthwhile in general. Got to get some outside some "outside the USA" perspective now and then!
OTOH, here's my 10 cents of 'merican opinion: FUBAMA
He hasn't actually reduced the world wide number of nukes by unilaterally reducing OUR stockpile, which is something I fear he will do some day.
He hasn't gotten us out of Iraq like his worshippers wanted him to.
He hasn't killed Osama, after ridiculing Bush Admin for not getting the job done.
He hasn't fixed Afghanistan, after critizing Bush for not focusing on that task.
He hasn't gotten all the shovel-ready jobs he promised out to the people.
Running around getting high fives and prizes just for showing up....
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I thought about this for a while and I can say that i think one thing that was good that he did was cancel the forward deployed ABM systems in Eastern Europe
IF this was seen by the Russians as anti-Russian system, then its deployment would have weakened the their perception of having an overwhelming nuke capability (i.e. hurt their MAD capability) By stabilizing MAD, world peace is better preserved. Ironically, the strength of the nuke forces is the peacemaker here. He will do tremendous damage to that preservative condition, if he makes radical cuts to our weapons counts.
While he's certainly more diplomatic than his 'ah'm a tough tawkin' cowboy' predecessor I don't think he's accomplished enough of anything to deserve this.
Still, as soon as I saw the headline I could almost see the vein popping out on a lot of people's reddening foreheads. It's worth it for the entertainment.
Ssandro
10-09-2009, 10:46 AM
I think this award says more about the Nobel Peace Prize than it does about President Obama.
This is very odd odd, it must put Obama in a almost embarrising position.
yeah that's true, it is an embarrassing position
commanding
10-09-2009, 10:47 AM
This is very odd odd, it must put Obama in a almost embarrising position. Its a bit early to judge what he has done so far. As Ordie pointed out, he isn't the first US President in office to receive the prize, but so early?
So early is right. But in defense of the neolibs worldwide, it is difficult to hold ones wad when the political erection is so strong.p-)
LineDoggie
10-09-2009, 10:48 AM
I could just as well ask for something tangible which allows people to condemn him.
I am not here to sing his praises or convince you of anything.
I am just pointing out that people are biased against him and certain people will oppose him no matter what he does. Same as certain people support him no matter what he does. So what the real difference between the idiots who follow him blindly and the other idiots who oppose him blindly?
That's all.
No, you just want us to say its wonderful and ignore the shennanigans from the committee.
Can you honestly say he suffered like Nelson Mandela or Aung Sang Suu Kyi?
Can you honestly say he worked hard for international peace, Like Teddy Roosevelt, or Woodrow Wilson?
Can you honestly say he was a Jean Henry Dunant, or a Linus Pauling?
What did he do, other than Apparently just be Black and elected President? Because I see no accomplishments to warrant the award at this time. And again going by the Nobel rules, he is being judged on 10 days as President in January 2009. What got done? please name it.......
Yes I dont like him, Yes I think he is a closet Marxist, but I could understand the award if he had done anything tangible towards Peace?
Jimmy Carter for all his late lunacy at least had the Camp David accords to his credit.
This smacks of politicking(and Not implying Obamas camp had a hand in this) but those trying to curry favor towards a EU groupthink.
Parx400
10-09-2009, 10:54 AM
I've noticed that since Obama was elected, non-Americans suddenly feel the need to slavishly defend our Democrat politicians. Its very perplexing since they don't vote for them and never will.
Its simple really. They buy his bull **** hook line and sink.
He219
10-09-2009, 10:56 AM
I wonder how the timing works out with Obama traveling to Norway to claim his prize and then announcing his updated Afghanistan strategy ..
Prowler129
10-09-2009, 10:59 AM
just a little strange? i agree, he hasn't really been in office long enough to have earned this. WKIS, the Nobel committee must have been happy that previous pres was gone, since they vote in Feb!
pacifist
10-09-2009, 11:01 AM
This is very odd odd, it must put Obama in a almost embarrising position.
My thoughts exactly. He has a war to conduct and now their giving him a peace price. I'm waiting to hear how he comments this.
kitatatsumi
10-09-2009, 11:01 AM
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kitatatsumi
10-09-2009, 11:02 AM
No, you just want us to say its wonderful and ignore the shennanigans from the committee.
Can you honestly say he suffered like Nelson Mandela or Aung Sang Suu Kyi?
Can you honestly say he worked hard for international peace, Like Teddy Roosevelt, or Woodrow Wilson?
Can you honestly say he was a Jean Henry Dunant, or a Linus Pauling?
What did he do, other than Apparently just be Black and elected President? Because I see no accomplishments to warrant the award at this time. And again going by the Nobel rules, he is being judged on 10 days as President in January 2009. What got done? please name it.......
Yes I dont like him, Yes I think he is a closet Marxist, but I could understand the award if he had done anything tangible towards Peace?
Jimmy Carter for all his late lunacy at least had the Camp David accords to his credit.
This smacks of politicking(and Not implying Obamas camp had a hand in this) but those trying to curry favor towards a EU groupthink.
No, you're wrong.
I totally agree with you. I think giving him the award is foolish. He simply doesn't deserve it. Period.
My only point was the facts don't matter because you either love him or hate him and most people decided this way before the Nobel Committee made their decision. But somehow when the Nobel Committee does it its a scandal.
Its just proof that each side will create their own case to prove themselves right, but it only bothers people when someone else does it.
The quote I read earlier about this being little more than a gut feeling works both ways.
And finally, the award comes from Sweden.
So if Swedes and Europeans can't comment on the American's choice for a POTUS, then I can't see why Americans feel their opinions on the Swedish Nobel Committee are any more relevant.
My views concern the wider issue of my opinion that Obama has not being given a real chance, which is off topic. So I'll leave it.
Bohemoth
10-09-2009, 11:02 AM
Nobel Prices are awarded to persons who achieved something outstanding in a specific field.
If Obama accepts the Nobel Price of PEACE, he should explain what he achieved for PEACE in his 9 month legislature so far.
Just like everything with Obama, lotsa promises but no results yet. LOL
Prowler129
10-09-2009, 11:03 AM
i guess he was a surprised as the rest of the world. the Nobel committee holds the winners pretty securely
GB_FXST
10-09-2009, 11:03 AM
I think everyone's opinion here is worthwhile in general. Got to get some outside some "outside the USA" perspective now and then!
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A reasonable answer. I would still like to hear from Jaegar07, as I found the tone of his post, post #187, interesting, maybe even provocative.
So early is right. But in defense of the neolibs worldwide, it is difficult to hold ones wad when the political erection is so strong.p-)
LOL ... at least there is comedic value to all of this … :)
Albatross
10-09-2009, 11:08 AM
And with one fell stroke, the legitimacy of the nobel peace prize was destroyed.
wtf???!?!?!?!?!
This is very odd odd, it must put Obama in a almost embarrising position.
If he and his advisors are smart he will reject it.
Frankly what's there to lose? "The man who rejected a Nobel Peace Prize out of decency"= +an infinite amount of "grandeur points". Much better and impressive than having the same prize as Arafat and co.
However that's not what he has done or is in the process of doing according to the Spiegel.
According to the Spiegel, the White House sent the message "Wow" back to CBS and Gibbs said that Obama feels "honored".
So much for that option I guess...
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,654178,00.html
Chulo
10-09-2009, 11:13 AM
If he and his advisors are smart he will reject it.
Frankly what's there to lose? "The man who rejected a Nobel Peace Prize out of decency"= +an infinite amount of "grandeur points". Much better and impressive than having the same prize as Arafat and co.
However that's not what he has done or is in the process of doing according to the Spiegel.
According to the Spiegel, the White House sent the message "Wow" back to CBS and Gibbs said that Obama feels "honored".
So much for that option I guess...
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,654178,00.html Thats what i was thinking, its a Win Win for Obama - take it or leave it. Even though i think he would gander more points with not taking it. Lets see if his ego lets him.
Ssandro
10-09-2009, 11:15 AM
If he and his advisors are smart he will reject it.
Frankly what's there to lose? "The man who rejected a Nobel Peace Prize out of decency"= +an infinite amount of "grandeur points". Much better and impressive than having the same prize as Arafat and co.
However that's not what he has done or is in the process of doing according to the Spiegel.
According to the Spiegel, the White House sent the message "Wow" back to CBS and Gibbs said that Obama feels "honored".
So much for that option I guess...
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,654178,00.html You can be consistent in literature and reject a literature prize like sartre did. But you can't be consistent in politics and reject something called a "peace prize", without seeming to imply that you're "anti-peace". He won't reject it
If he had any balls he'd use the occasion to stand before the Nobel committee and announce a 40,000 troop surge for the war in Afghanistan.
Mu-Meson
10-09-2009, 11:16 AM
What little credibility the Nobel Peace Prize had left after giving one to Arafat, they have now lost completely. WTF?
Hell, why not give him one in Chemistry too? After all, Obama has great chemistry with people.
I wonder how previous winners feel about this. It has totally destroyed the prestige of their efforts too. I mean, most of them actually had to put in hard work, and have something to show for their efforts. I bet they feel like a bunch of chumps now.
"with special emphasis on nuclear disarmament"? One speech before the UN that the French called naive? Well done.
A new direction after Bush? Guantanamo is still open. Rendition is still going. Indefinite detention is still going. Airstrikes in Pakistan are still going. America is still in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama retreated from the pressure he put on Israel over settlements. Of course, I agree with all this, but from leftists POV he hasn't changed much.
The real reason for this is indeed to hamstring him from pulling any kind of centrist-movement like Clinton. This is to stop any action against Iran. This is to stop the surge in A-stan. Oh **** it all, I can't write anymore......
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
IraGlacialis
10-09-2009, 11:17 AM
Both TR and Woodrow Wilson won it while they were in office. Personally, I don't see what's so inappropriate about awarding it to a head of state who holds office.A large issue of contention, if you read the fine print, is that the nomination is pretty much secured around February. TR helped set up the National Parks system and Wilson gave his 14 Points. What has Obama truly accomplished within the last few months besides giving promises?
If several years have passed and then the award is given to Obama, I might have a different opinion.
Geezah
10-09-2009, 11:17 AM
I'm shocked as well.
But one thing is for certain, we have a diplomacy driven President.
That is a good thing.
I'm sure 9.8% of the population could give a sh!te about that right now.......how about he focus on running the country, rather than running it into the ground!
Euroamerican
10-09-2009, 11:21 AM
A reasonable answer. I would still like to hear from Jaegar07, as I found the tone of his post, post #187, interesting, maybe even provocative.
LOL ... at least there is comedic value to all of this … :)'
Don't worry, I think he was being semi-sarcastic. However, some Swiss friends of my Dad absolutely hate Bush. They stopped visiting the US ever since his post-911 "behavior" started. My sister got the same sort of reaction from some German friends in the last couple years.
Derbedeu
10-09-2009, 11:23 AM
A large issue of contention, if you read the fine print, is that the nomination is pretty much secured around February. TR helped set up the National Parks system and Wilson gave his 14 Points. What has Obama truly accomplished within the last few months besides giving promises?
I'm not debating whether he deserves the award or not. My contention was with the assertion that it is inappropriate to give the award to a President currently in service.
Euroamerican
10-09-2009, 11:33 AM
Dennis Miller Radio just said:
"This is like giving Obama the Cy Young award for throwing out the first pitch of the season".:)
He219
10-09-2009, 11:41 AM
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4671/cover690x460.jpg
squidO
10-09-2009, 11:43 AM
Here, on this page an interesting thread about Norwegian policy.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=166101
Its about Israeli - Norwegian relations, but still...
Wimbly
10-09-2009, 11:47 AM
According to the DNC, if you don't agree that Obama deserves this award, you're in league with Hammas and the Taliban!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/09/dnc-says-republican-critics-aligning-with-terrorists/
A Democratic National Committee spokesman said Friday the GOP has "thrown in its lot with the terrorists" in criticizing the president's Nobel Peace Prize award.
“The Republican Party has thrown in its lot with the terrorists – the Taliban and Hamas this morning – in criticizing the President for receiving the Nobel Peace prize," DNC Communications Director Brad Woodhouse said in a statement.
West Texican
10-09-2009, 11:49 AM
It's a pizza surprise, not a peace prize, from Nobel Pizza in Jacksonville, Florida. You can get a frozen one at Walmart.
Hey guys, did you hear that Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize? I heard it on the news.
But you can't be consistent in politics and reject something called a "peace prize", without seeming to imply that you're "anti-peace".
anti Peace+Obama will not stick with Obama of all people, especially not after being fed Bush lied people died for almost 8yrs in a row.
It's a win win for him.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/125/73637177.jpg
Chulo
10-09-2009, 12:01 PM
According to the DNC, if you don't agree that Obama deserves this award, you're in league with Hammas and the Taliban!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/09/dnc-says-republican-critics-aligning-with-terrorists/
fukin idiots.
Stonewall71
10-09-2009, 12:04 PM
from today's pics
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1821/610xcs.jpg
"AHAH those guys on Mp.net are mad today!"
megjur
10-09-2009, 12:08 PM
Then in his arrogance, Obama accepts the award, acknowledging he's done NOTHING to deserve it, but saying the award is a "call to action" regarding his policies.
LOL, how pissed is Hillary today?
That would have been her award!
KilledByAGirl
10-09-2009, 12:12 PM
Yeah, this is pretty whack. Love that he's President... I voted for him.... but I just don't think he's done anything deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize yet.
Here's to hoping he will, though, eh?
ubermensche
10-09-2009, 12:18 PM
Well my friend said:"He said a lot, but didn't do much but no one else did much either, so you give it to the person who brings the most hope."
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