Hamid Karzai, with US bodyguards

[papabear]

http://wwwi.*******.com/images/2003-07-26T182129Z_01_KAB01D_RTRIDSP_2_AFGHANISTAN.jpg

Escorted by heavily aremed U.S. bodyguards, Afghan President Hamid Karzai (C) arrives in Afghanistan's central province of Ghor, July 26, 2003. The U.S.-backed president, who spent half a day in Ghor and met provincial leaders, is keen to show that his influence is expanding beyond Kabul to often unruly outlying provinces. *******/Ahmad Masood/POOL

[UNDERDOG1]

Very cool photos, the BG seems the DYNCORPS guys posted elsewhere.

Any other photos?

[Knave]

Very cool photos, the BG seems the DYNCORPS guys posted elsewhere.

Any other photos?

Not to be picky, but it's "DynCorp" - and I think they're now a part of Computer Sciences Corporation. There was an article about them in Wired Magazine a few months ago.

[iamferdi]

wat qualifications do u have to have to be accepted into DynCorp?

[Knave]

The correct term is "hired" by DynCorp. ;)

And it's the same as any other job - only they'd like to have people with military experience, I suppose.

I did a little looking at DynCorp's website .... the link to their posted jobs are here;

http://recruiting.dyncorp.com/

[duck]

Why don't you find out?

http://careers.csc.com

And a wild guess, the qualifications vary depending on the job.

[Dominique]

In addition to DynCorp, there are several other companies providing PSDs to various US government agencies. Just do a quick web search and you will run accross several of them.

[millhouse]

What is the pay for close cover security at these corporations such as CSC/Dyncorp??

[jones]

Any more images like this, what weapon is the bloke on the left carrying?.

[Smintjes]

Some sort of M4 CQB-configuration I think.

[Kodiak]

Hey, sorry to bother but I'm doing some research on private military corporations (Sandline, Exec Outcome, DynCorp,etc).
Can anybody tell me something or a link to the article about DynCorp and Computer Sciences Corporation? Don't know the issue to look for.
Thank you in advance.
A

[Smoothie104]

Dyncorp jobs in Kosovo police force.

Kosovo is a one-year contract. Compensation for the year ranges from $75,000 to $98,000. Medical benefits are provided for the employee. Benefits are not provided for the dependents. DAOL (DynCorp Aerospace Operations, Ltd.) provides all uniform and equipment needs. Transportation to the country, and a return flight upon successful completion of the one-year contract is provided. Local transportation in the country is also available. Eighteen days of paid vacation are accrued over the course of the assignment. DAOL does not provide housing. Lodging is secured by the employee in the local area of assignment. Cost of living for the year is estimated to be $5,000 - $10,000 depending upon location in country. Mission assignments vary and are made in country by the U.N. based on mission needs and the officer’s qualifications.

General Payroll Information:
Salary is paid every four weeks from London, U.K.
No federal income or social security taxes are withheld.
If you remain out of the US for 330 of 365 consecutive days, you are eligible for U.S. federal tax exemption on your entire compensation package.
Travel days to the US are counted toward the number of days spent in the US.
Per diem is paid in country according to the U.N. pay schedule (typically once per month), and is subject to change.
Working hours - 12 hour days, 30 days on, 6 days off.
Vacation

Two of my friends work for them as Aviation/Avionics techs in Baghdad. They were paid at the high end of the above scale, but then again they were surrounded by firefights every night. The no-tax clause is nice. If you were a Close Protection Bodyguard, I'd say its safe to assume you'd be paid around $120,000 Since it is inherently more dangerous than Avionics work. What sucks is that the enlisted guys are making peanuts compared to the civilian contractors.

Why does the Gov't pay 4 times the wage? 1. they are short of man power, and 2. Its a "good ole' boy" private military company(read as Republican) and since its Private, it doesnt have to share its earnings, profits margins, etc. And the DOD doesnt have to inform congress about any contracts under $50 million. Its pretty much a free for all fleecing of our tax dollars.

For the Guy who didnt know where to find the info for dyncorp/computer science etc... try dyncorp.com also for sh1ts and giggles, run a google search for "dyncorp prostitution"


Now I'm just waiting for our first "Dyncorp Wanna be" on here. :cantbeli:

[dyliaoge]

this guy ,strongman.. ;) ;) ;)

[millhouse]

If its $120k, over $36k that would have gone to taxes included is a sweet deal. Then again, you could get killed at any moment :|

[papabear]

Another bodyguard pic...

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20030727/i/1059333294.4227964941.jpg


Chairman of the Joints Chiefs of Staff General Richard Myers arrives at a helicopter landing pad in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad July 27, 2003. Myers said on Sunday the deaths of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s sons had led to a flood of new informants and he was sure the Iraqi dictator would be found. *******/Chris Helgren

[He219]

Hey Papabear, nice pic. (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2778&start=40) I think that it, along with the following, should be added into the Close Protection Section. Hood?


http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=364863

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw,ctr, tours the British Embassy in Baghdad, Iraq under tight security after addressing the media Wednesday, July 2, 2003. Straw is in Iraq to get a first-hand look at the progress of the US and British occupation forces in the reconstruction and rehabilitation of Iraq following the fall of Saddam Hussein. (AP Photo/Bullit Marquez)

[Howard]

The blurred British body guard in the foreground of the Jack Straw picture is carrying an HK53. I've seen British military bodyguards carrying them in other news and documentary footage. It's a great little weapon, and seems perfect for this sort of work, but I don't think I've seen them in American, or any other hands, in any scenario. I'm aware from various biographies that the SAS have been using them since the mid to late eighties, in Northern Ireland in particular, where it's compact size made it good for plain clothes work and use in cars. I read on another site a while ago that some US police SWAT teams have procured them over the years, but they tend to get left in the van. Has anybody else been following this little weapon?

[Howard]

Looking at it again I can't be sure it's not an Mp5. I'm finding it hard to judge the size of that magazine. 9mm or 5.56. I suppose it could be 10mm, but I think that's unlikely in British military hands. Anyway, my chat about the HK53 still stands.

[Argyll]

Judging by the size of it ,an HK53 is the likely choice!
I think these guys providing security are from the RMP CPD detachment.

[Light Fighter]

If anyone is interested, I have a bunch of photos from close protection jobs my company has provided to different types of people, and events. If its ok with the boss man I'l send them to Hood. We just lost two of our unmarried agents to DynCorp. They are going to be working in Kosovo I beleave.

Many people just look at the pay with agencies like DynCorp others, the one thing many dont understand is that it is extremely dangerous, demanding physically and mentally and the housing you are put in isnt what you would call great. You spend say a month in a **** hole and a say a week in a nice comfortable place, and with close security jobs you almost have to drop everything back at home.

If anyone has any questions regarding close security or protection, ask and I will tryand get back to you. Been extremely busy and havnt had to much time for this board.

[ibstolidude]

what is your companies name?

[millhouse]

If you want to see an HK53 in action, watch the shootout in Los Angeles which the movie Heat was inspired by. Two bank robbers armed to the teeth and heavily armored held LAPD at bay. Both one of the robbers (with a drum mag) and LAPD SWAT used the HK53 during the shootout.

[Trigger]

Not to nitpick millhouse but the bank robbers were supposedly inspired by the movie, not the other way around. Heat was a Michael Mann creation and he actually made a low budget TV version in the 80s called 'LA Takedown' or something like that.
Cheers.

[Chops]

Millhouse you crazy pussy :lol:

The Hollywood armed robbers used a modified commercial HK91 and a Clayco AKS with RPK style drum. LAPD SWAT 'may' have access and used a 53 but it's not in their usual inventory. Can I ask your source?

rgds

Chops

[Knave]

If you want to see an HK53 in action, watch the shootout in Los Angeles which the movie Heat was inspired by. Two bank robbers armed to the teeth and heavily armored held LAPD at bay. Both one of the robbers (with a drum mag) and LAPD SWAT used the HK53 during the shootout.

Uhm... if you're talking about the North Hollywood shootout - and the main weapons they used were full-auto AK-47s with drum mags, alas they did have a semi-auto .308 H&K; sorry, but I couldn't find which model it was - but the shootout actually happened after the movie was released..... the North Hollywood shootout was on February 28, 1997. Link; http://www.student.oulu.fi/~hmikkola/shootout.html

Heat was released in December 1995. Link; http://www.guzzlefish.com/title.php?mediatype=D&titleid=120533

And, if I've interpreted your post wrong and you're speaking of the guns in the movie; Robert De Niro and Val Kilmer's characters both use M4/M16 variants in the big shootout scene; Tom Sizemore's character used a Galil ( http://www.angelfire.com/ky/SovietAndOthers/galil.html ); the only type of gun that I'm unsure of is the exact model Al Pacino used; it is definately an H&K, and it looks like a G3 variant. I'm not enough of an expert to narrow it down further, though ;)

[Kodiak]

Hi Delta, I read your post and I'm interested.
I'm a LEO from Argentina and have some training on the issue.
If you can share the photos and don't want to post them at the forum just let me know and I'll give you my personal e-mail.
Thank you in advance.

[He219]

Knave wrote:

the only type of gun that I'm unsure of is the exact model Al Pacino used; it is definately an H&K, and it looks like a G3 variant. I'm not enough of an expert to narrow it down further, though

I don't have a picture from the movie to reference, but it was an FNC (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as24-e.htm) that Al Pacino used!

http://world.guns.ru/assault/fn_fnc1.jpg


p-)

[ibstolidude]

( Edited as it was an uncalled for remark due to me being an a crabby ass mood, sorry)
the movie heat was not inspired by the LA shoot out...the shoot out took place AFTER the movie was made..if anything the shoot our was inspired but the movie..

[REMOV]

the only type of gun that I'm unsure of is the exact model Al Pacino used; it is definately an H&K, and it looks like a G3 variant.I'm afraid not ;) It's Belgian 5,56mm assault rifle FN FNC Para (as He219 wrote) made by Fabrique Nationale (the same company that produces FN MAG/M240, FN Minimi/M249, FN F2000, FN P90 and FN FAL).
http://remtek.com/arms/fn/fnc/fnc.gif
http://www.remov.com/inne/g-15.jpg
http://www.remov.com/inne/g-16.jpg

[Machine]

It seems petty, but I am just curious as to what kind of concealment vest the guards are wearing? I've seen some including the 5.11, but these are different, more of a photojournalist's vest. Thanks in advance.
Machine

[Knave]

the only type of gun that I'm unsure of is the exact model Al Pacino used; it is definately an H&K, and it looks like a G3 variant.I'm afraid not ;) It's Belgian 5,56mm assault rifle FN FNC Para (as He219 wrote) made by Fabrique Nationale (the same company that produces FN MAG/M240, FN Minimi/M249, FN F2000, FN P90 oraz FN FAL).


My mistake. I'm by no means an officianado on European guns.... and I was trying to make the match by memory, as Heat is one of my favorite movies.... alas I haven't watched it in a while....

Again, my error. :)

[Glass1]

As far as the much previous question about US military units using the 5.56 HK, there are a few pics on this site somewhere of SEALs using them during VBSS.

[REMOV]

My mistake. I'm by no means an officianado on European guns.... Again, my error. :)Hey, take it easy, no one knows all worlds rifle types. E.g. I have no idea how the Burmese 5,56mm EMERK-1 assault rifle (bullpup type) looks like (exept verbal description) ;)