China's 60 yrs of genocide in Tibet [Archive]

Hongjian

10-14-2009, 12:02 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-POWUWj-cbs

Hmm China fails again.

60 years of attempting a delicious genocide, and in the end there are still more than a million Tibetans left.

CHINA QUARRITY.

Oh heaven. Why are we born so stupid and incompetent that we cant even kill off some yak-herders in 60 fvcking years?

I think I will write a letter to Hu Jintao, proposing that we need to recruit some of those 90 years old nazi-gramps I know during my time as advisors. At least these guys knew how to get their stuff done right and in time back then... not like us lazy Chinese. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF- :roll:

Jobu

10-14-2009, 12:47 PM

I think the proper term for what the Han are doing in Tibet is "ethnic cleansing."

Danielotu

10-14-2009, 12:49 PM

Not this sh@t again..

Mu-Meson

10-14-2009, 12:54 PM

I think the proper term for what the Han are doing in Tibet is "ethnic cleansing."

X2. No matter your stance on the issue, you can't call it genocide.

StinkyStreet

10-14-2009, 01:15 PM

Not this sh@t again..

http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/b0a1623a3b0453a6217123a91d5c7b70ca6575ae.jpg

WingCommander

10-14-2009, 01:54 PM

ohh my chicom getting pawned today...

roflrofl

i bet they are currently recruiting more people to post on the internet rofl

Robert.V

10-14-2009, 02:02 PM

Don't get emotional when responding to commies, Just state facts and they will go crazy.

They are hardly commies now, now are they.

Clear_blues

10-14-2009, 02:08 PM

Flame on!!!!

plato

10-14-2009, 02:21 PM

They are hardly commies now, now are they.

They are capitalistic commies now.

plato

10-14-2009, 02:26 PM

Solvent

10-14-2009, 02:37 PM

If China has nothing to hide, then why restrict access into Tibet? If Tibet is part of China, then why can't we access Tibet just like any other parts of China?

BTW, can foreigners get restricted access into Tibet, now? It was closed up for at least six months last year. What is the situation, now?

I think they don't need to hide anything. Restricting access is just easier to control the security.

I think you are allowed to apply the permit now. I did read some foreigners blogs about traveling in Tibet recently.

plato

10-14-2009, 02:39 PM

I think they don't need to hide anything. Restricting access is just easier to control the security.

I think you are allowed to apply the permit now. I did read some foreigners blogs about traveling in Tibet recently.

What do you mean by "control the security"?

Solvent

10-14-2009, 02:44 PM

What do you mean by "control the security"?

Remember the riot last year? Less people in will have less stir up.

plato

10-14-2009, 02:49 PM

Remember the riot last year? Less people in will have less stir up.

I am sorry, the restricted travel into Tibet has always been there to the foreigners. It was there before and after the riot. How would a foreigner stir up the riot?

Ordie

10-14-2009, 02:53 PM

I think Shiumo is currently in Tibet or recently been there.

Solvent

10-14-2009, 02:55 PM

I am sorry, the restricted travel into Tibet has always been there to the foreigners. It was there before and after the riot. How would a foreigner stir up the riot?

You don't stir, other will. I think you are not naive enough to believe that every foreigner who tries to get in are in good will. The reason is simple, no need to say more.

plato

10-14-2009, 02:58 PM

You don't stir, other will. I think you are not naive enough to believe that every foreigner who tries to get in are in good will. The reason is simple, no need to say more.

The reason is NOT simple, and some people are very afraid to say more. The restriction has always been there, so it is NOT for the riot.

Solvent

10-14-2009, 03:02 PM

The reason is NOT simple, and some people are very afraid to say more. The restriction has always been there, so it is NOT for the riot.

Putting foreigners under checked is part of security setup. After the riot, the handout for permission was completely stopped. It is reasonable that the security level went up because of it.

plato

10-14-2009, 03:09 PM

Putting foreigners under checked is part of security setup. After the riot, the handout for permission was completely stopped. It is reasonable that the security level went up because of it.

Fair enough, then why were there travel restictions BEFORE the riot?

Solvent

10-14-2009, 03:13 PM

Fair enough, then why were there travel restictions BEFORE the riot?

You don't read my comments, do you?

"Putting foreigners under checked has been part of the security setup for Tibet."

plato

10-14-2009, 03:20 PM

You don't read my comments, do you?

"Putting foreigners under checked has been part of the security setup for Tibet."

Why does Tibet need a different security setup? Security setup for what? Don't say "riot", again.

Solvent

10-14-2009, 03:25 PM

Why does Tibet need a different security setup? Security setup for what? Don't say "riot", again.

Because that region is unstable. Riots happened a couple times. Riot is riot, like it or not.

plato

10-14-2009, 03:29 PM

Because that region is unstable. Riots happened a couple times. Riot is riot, like it or not.

Why would anyone like a riot? There were no riots in other parts of China? As I remember there was a much larger "riot" in Beijing in 1989. Anyway, nice try to explain why the travel restrictions.

Solvent

10-14-2009, 03:34 PM

Why would anyone like a riot? There were no riots in other parts of China? As I remember there was a much larger "riot" in Beijing in 1989. Anyway, nice try to explain why the travel restrictions.

Yes, we did have riot on other part of China, for example, the riot happened in Guizhou last year. The whole town was totally shut down for weeks. I have to say it's gov's style to deal with the similar situations.

Nightsky

10-14-2009, 04:33 PM

seems the chi com bots are ramped up

Yeah, Chicom bots vs. China-haters.

It's slowly but surely annoying. No wonder that we have threads on every bag of rice in China. The China-great-fraction shows the same brilliance in posts as the Anti-China-fraction ... an agony of a stallmate we all have the pleasure to read.

ex Strathcona

10-14-2009, 05:20 PM

Yeah, Chicom bots vs. China-haters.

It's slowly but surely annoying. No wonder that we have threads on every bag of rice in China. The China-great-fraction shows the same brilliance in posts as the Anti-China-fraction ... an agony of a stallmate we all have the pleasure to read.

not a china-hater, I like the people and the country, it's the government and it's "we take what we want and you can do nothing about it" attitude i find rather annoying.
sadly they are right, I doubt anyone has the resolve to stand up to them at this point and it will only get worse as the years progress.
just makes me hate them more ;)

P.Koschei

10-14-2009, 06:24 PM

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/29638/1058163-obvious_troll5r0_super.jpg

Plato, do you have to work hard at being a repetitive twit or does that level of brain dead redundancy come naturally?

Ordie

10-14-2009, 08:00 PM

Typical move for Chinese nationalist posters.

Shut any debate by shutting the thread with dumb photos and remarks.

Any debate is a recognition of an opposing view.

jd123

10-14-2009, 08:13 PM

only dumb people argue on stuff like this. There's no right or wrong on this, it's all depends on who you are talking to....

P.Koschei

10-14-2009, 11:36 PM

Shorter Ordie: blah blah blah I'm an idiot blah blah blah.

Since when does a debate constitute repeating the same one liner a dozen times?

It doesn't take a Chinese nationalist to figure out this thread was going nowhere fast. In fact, half a dozen disparate posters before me pointed out this very same trend. I'm glad to see you upholding your high debating standards by slinging stupid remarks to preclude any rational debate... oh wait.

plato

10-14-2009, 11:44 PM

Yes, we did have riot on other part of China, for example, the riot happened in Guizhou last year. The whole town was totally shut down for weeks. I have to say it's gov's style to deal with the similar situations.

What "riot" caused the travel restrictions BEFORE last year's riot in Tibet?

Ordie

10-15-2009, 12:05 AM

I think what Solvent is trying to say is that Tibet is no different than other parts of rural and marginalized areas of China.

There has been several uprisings and riots within China proper due to corruption and injustices of local CCP cadres.

PeoplesPoster

10-15-2009, 03:46 AM

Poor job of genocide truthfully. Pretty sure the population of Tibetans in Tibet is higher than ever. Maybe they need to work harder. Sarcasm aside, whatever is going in Tibet is hardly genocide, would even be difficult to call is ethnic cleansing. It's more akin to assimilation of the "wild" west by the US. oh wait!

EatenByRats

10-15-2009, 03:52 AM

only dumb people argue on stuff like this. There's no right or wrong on this, it's all depends on who you are talking to....

Yeah, just like the Hungarian Jews who mercilessly attacked the Nazis in 1944. Who's to say they were wrong? There's no right or wrong, just different. When someone buries 34 kids in their crawl space, is that wrong? Of course not! it's just different.

That's the wonderful part of this great big ol' multicultural pee-wee tee-ball world we live in isn't it? Everyone wins and everyone takes home a trophy.

plato

10-15-2009, 06:48 AM

MG 3

10-15-2009, 06:54 AM

I think its time that the Dalai Lama went back home and faced the music.

Ordie

10-15-2009, 09:32 AM

I think its time that the Dalai Lama went back home and faced the music.

I don't think the CCP wants that.

It puts them in a damn if you do, damn if you don't situation.

How will China be viewed in the world community to prosecute and execute a Nobel Prize winner?

How will it look to the Chinese at home not to prosecute and execute a rebel?

I think the CCP would rather have him in exile.

Hongjian

10-15-2009, 10:51 AM

That is so 18th century! US used to have slaves, too.

It is Oct 15th, 2009 today.

Facepalm.jpg

I will state it as many times as it takes, so that even the dumbest and most gullible universalist gets it.

THERE IS NO COMMON CALCULATION OF TIME.

AGE OF THE WEST =/= AGE OF CHINA

The west expierienced an age of enlightment in the 18th century, while China is still a legalist dictatorship up untill today.

You cannot simply claim that, only because you became 12 years old, that the rest of the world also became 12 years old and should act accordingly.

Thats just universalist bullsh*t. Thats just stupid and illogical.

But logic seems to be a major weakness of emotional crybabies like some guys here. Not very manly.

plato

10-15-2009, 02:25 PM

I don't think the CCP wants that.

It puts them in a damn if you do, damn if you don't situation.

How will China be viewed in the world community to prosecute and execute a Nobel Prize winner?

How will it look to the Chinese at home not to prosecute and execute a rebel?

I think the CCP would rather have him in exile.

They don't execute rebels in China now. They simply die of "natural causes". It is too much trouble to execute them.

hulaku

10-15-2009, 02:34 PM

They don't execute rebels in China now. They simply die of "natural causes". It is too much trouble to execute them.

Or just put them into those death vans and the sell their organs.

plato

10-15-2009, 02:37 PM

Or just put them into those death vans and the sell their organs.

actually, there are some measures taken by the Chinese government to stop the "sell their organs." business. How effective are these measures? I don't know. They also tried to reduce the number of death sentences. Again, we know the latest data to say how effective it has been.

Hongjian

10-15-2009, 03:07 PM

actually, there are some measures taken by the Chinese government to stop the "sell their organs." business. How effective are these measures? I don't know. They also tried to reduce the number of death sentences. Again, we know the latest data to say how effective it has been.

well, these 'measures' were only the shifting the competence of sentencing someone to death to the central judicary instance in Beijing. This, of course, is a significant improvement to the system before, of allowing every provincial judicacy to decide over the capital punishment.
So the concrete improvements would be that less people will be killed because of minor reasons, like sleeping with the wife of the respective provincial governour or angering him by saying that he sucks. Now, only people will be sentenced to death when their crime was found severe enough by the central government - so you have to be a very influencial dissent who threats the entire country with his opinion, to get killed off.

MG 3

10-16-2009, 12:45 AM

I don't think the CCP wants that.

It puts them in a damn if you do, damn if you don't situation.

How will China be viewed in the world community to prosecute and execute a Nobel Prize winner?

How will it look to the Chinese at home not to prosecute and execute a rebel?

I think the CCP would rather have him in exile.

Who gives a **** about a noble prize winner. trust me if there is one more uprising that Chinese will take the lama out no matter what.

They have a pretty strong case against him about instigating violence and being head of an anti-china movement.

hulaku

10-16-2009, 12:55 AM

Who gives a **** about a noble prize winner. trust me if there is one more uprising that Chinese will take the lama out no matter what.

They have a pretty strong case against him about instigating violence and being head of an anti-china movement.

Nah they wont. They are just waiting for the old monk to die and then the Chicoms will simply appoint a "friendly" Dalai Lama.

MG 3

10-16-2009, 01:46 AM

Nah they wont. They are just waiting for the old monk to die and then the Chicoms will simply appoint a "friendly" Dalai Lama.

Of course! Die of natural causes that is.....p-)

Lemonz

10-16-2009, 02:33 AM

God bless china and their crusade against feudal age theism.

Ordie

10-16-2009, 02:44 AM

God bless china and their crusade against feudal age theism.

Just visit the Chinese countryside and you will find it feudal.

The only difference is that the CCP Cadres replaced the warlords and imperial magistrates.

Ordie

10-16-2009, 02:47 AM

They have a pretty strong case against him about instigating violence and being head of an anti-china movement.

There is a stronger indicator that the CCP local corruption, nepotism and graft instigates violence against the state.

Henry's Fork

10-16-2009, 02:51 AM

Just visit the Chinese countryside and you will find it feudal.

The only difference is that the CCP Cadres replaced the warlords and imperial magistrates.

oh snap.

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