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timetraveller
10-14-2009, 10:12 PM
At the outbreak of ww2 it's known that many Japanese living in America were interned for the duration of the war in America , Did this also apply Americans of German descent who also lived in America or were they left alone if so why was the reason ?

And how many Camps were built as such for this ??

baboon6
10-15-2009, 12:42 AM
At the outbreak of ww2 it's known that many Japanese living in America were interned for the duration of the war in America , Did this also apply Americans of German descent who also lived in America or were they left alone if so why was the reason ?

And how many Camps were built as such for this ??

Only to German-Americans identified as Nazi sympathisers, who were indeed interned; the vast majority, a significant percentage of the US population, were left alone.

JJC
10-15-2009, 01:14 AM
Most German Americans were spared because they had a good political clout and being white helped a lot. Japanese Americans were rounded up easily because racial intolerance towards Asians was still the norm at the time and they had no political power.

James
10-15-2009, 02:33 AM
A few Italian Americans were rounded up too, but the vast majority of those interred were Japanese Americans.

Soldat_Américain
10-15-2009, 02:38 AM
Interesting fact about the town just south of my hometown. Pomona which is the home of the NHRA Winter Nationals and NHRA Finals which is also the site of the LA County Fairgrounds. The LA County Fairgrounds served as an Army processing station of Japanese.

Virus
10-15-2009, 01:04 PM
Interesting fact about the town just south of my hometown. Pomona which is the home of the NHRA Winter Nationals and NHRA Finals which is also the site of the LA County Fairgrounds. The LA County Fairgrounds served as an Army processing station of Japanese.

Same with good ole Puyallup Fair Grounds, WA :D

Ordie
10-15-2009, 03:32 PM
Tanforan Racetrack (Now Mall) outside of San Francisco Airport was a processing station for Japanese Americans.

Ironically some within the Chinese American community in San Francisco Chinatown provided shelter and instruction to pass themselves as Chinese. There was a popular nightclub in Chinatown called the "Forbidden Palace". One of the headliners was a Japanese American bourlesque dancer and shielded her from the authorities by making her Chinese.

The Japanese community on Hawaii was spared from being interned.

nemowork
10-15-2009, 03:45 PM
Some 10 thousand Germans were interned in WW2 as well as a few thousand more that were obtained from central and southern America by slightly shady means so about 15 to 20 thousand in total from vague memory.

On the other hand if you were Japanese you were probably released from the camps by 44 and could get on with your life, a lot of the Germans were expelled from America with no right of return in 45.

I think some of them or their families managed to get back into America in the late 50s?

Spaz
10-15-2009, 04:02 PM
Same with good ole Puyallup Fair Grounds, WA :D
Same with a field near my house, still some fencing there.

Ordie
10-15-2009, 04:22 PM
If they were to have interned German Americans, they would've included:

Adm. Chester Nimitz, USN
Gen. Dwight Eisenhower, USA
Gen. Carl Spaatz. USAAF

Lethal Lou
10-15-2009, 09:48 PM
Of course the Japanese-Americans who were interned eventually received an apology and a token restitution. Zilch/niente for the Italian-American and German-American folk who were interned. Not part of the official meme don'cha know.

baboon6
10-15-2009, 10:08 PM
Of course the Japanese-Americans who were interned eventually received an apology and a token restitution. Zilch/niente for the Italian-American and German-American folk who were interned. Not part of the official meme don'cha know.

There is a difference though. All Japanese-Americans, except those in Hawaii, were interned. A tiny percentage of German- and Italian-Americans were interned, and then mainly known Nazi/Fascist sympathisers. Why should they receive an apology?

LineDoggie
10-15-2009, 10:19 PM
Fritz Kuhn of the German American Bund was interned at Crystal city Texas. In 1945 he was deported to Germany

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American_internment

11,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_American_internment

Schpetzka
10-15-2009, 10:20 PM
The Japanese-Americans in Hawaii were largely left alone primarily because they made up such a large part of the workforce. Hawaii had an agricultural economy at the time and the sugar, pineapple, and coffee industries were using primarily Japanese workers. Though there were significant numbers of Filipino laborers they would not have been able to make up the numbers were all Japanese laborers interred.

T.S.C.Plage
10-15-2009, 10:27 PM
There is a difference though. All Japanese-Americans, except those in Hawaii, were interned. A tiny percentage of German- and Italian-Americans were interned, and then mainly known Nazi/Fascist sympathisers. Why should they receive an apology?
Maybe because they didn't do anything besides having an admittedly strange political point of view which as far as I know wasn't and still isn't forbidden in the USA?
I mean there of course were supporters of the Japanese system amongst the internated Japanese people too I'd guess. Where is the diffrence here?

Euroamerican
10-15-2009, 10:36 PM
There is a difference though. All Japanese-Americans, except those in Hawaii, were interned. A tiny percentage of German- and Italian-Americans were interned, and then mainly known Nazi/Fascist sympathisers. Why should they receive an apology?

MY GRANDMOTHER should receive an apology. To her dying days, she remembered , as school children, little German-speaking kids in western Ohio were beat up and verbally abused for being German. Ironically, her family was Swiss, but spoke German and lived in one of the many German towns that were found all over the USA. This was during World War One, but I'm sure some of that crap went on during the Second World War too.

LineDoggie
10-15-2009, 10:56 PM
And it wasnt ALL Japanese Americans in the CONUS. Those on the East Coast werent interned.

LineDoggie
10-15-2009, 10:59 PM
MY GRANDMOTHER should receive an apology. To her dying days, she remembered , as school children, little German-speaking kids in western Ohio were beat up and verbally abused for being German. Ironically, her family was Swiss, but spoke German and lived in one of the many German towns that were found all over the USA. This was during World War One, but I'm sure some of that crap went on during the Second World War too.
The Abuse during WWI was excessive.People were Lynched for being Huns & Dachshunds were even killed by "Patriots" striking blows against the Kaiser, a really pathetic time.

Gleipnir
10-15-2009, 11:03 PM
Someone I know (Japanese) was interned at the Santa Anita racetrack (Near Los Angeles, California). He enjoyed it immensely, however, because he was a teenager and suddenly had access to many bored teenage girls. He is a real glass half-full kinda guy.

baboon6
10-15-2009, 11:08 PM
MY GRANDMOTHER should receive an apology. To her dying days, she remembered , as school children, little German-speaking kids in western Ohio were beat up and verbally abused for being German. Ironically, her family was Swiss, but spoke German and lived in one of the many German towns that were found all over the USA. This was during World War One, but I'm sure some of that crap went on during the Second World War too.

That's not what I'm talking about. That kind of behaviour is just plain mindless . I'm talking about the members of the German-American Bund and similar organisations who were interned in WW2. AFAIK that kind of abuse of German-speaking people was worse in WW2 than Ww1.

baboon6
10-15-2009, 11:09 PM
And it wasnt ALL Japanese Americans in the CONUS. Those on the East Coast werent interned.

My mistake. But weren't the vast majority on the West Coast anyway?

James
10-16-2009, 03:01 AM
The Japanese-Americans in Hawaii were largely left alone primarily because they made up such a large part of the workforce.

Also, they were already on an island in the middle of the ocean. p-)