"new" Italians F16

[easyand]

some pics

http://www.aviopress.com/images/200405030_pratica_f16taxi_f1.jpg

http://www.aviopress.com/images/20040530_pratica_f16ami_c2.jpg

http://www.aviopress.com/images/20040405_LIPC_f164.jpg

http://www.aviopress.com/images/20040405_LIPC_f163.jpg

http://www.aviopress.com/images/20040405_LIPC_f161.jpg

[Operation Ivy]

F-16 woot

[Damian]

They suck!!! 'cos they are a very old version kinda upgraded ( I Think F16A Block 15 ADF ) the EF-2000 rules!!!

[Fenna]

Why get F-16s now, instead of say 20 years ago?

[Damian]

Why get F-16s now, instead of say 20 years ago?

No Money?
Italian's share of PIL allocated to defense I think is about 1 %

[hank]

Why get F-16s now, instead of say 20 years ago?

No Money?
Italian's share of PIL allocated to defense I think is about 1 %

Well maybe because used F16s still work great, destroy what they shoot or aim at and cost a lot less than the latest batch of jets. That is a pretty good set of reasons to me. If a Chevy Truck will do the trick then why would you need a Ferrari?

hank

[oldsoak]

They suck!!! 'cos they are a very old version kinda upgraded ( I Think F16A Block 15 ADF ) the EF-2000 rules!!!

Whoa, they'll do for now mate. At least the Italian AF gets to play with a nice dogfighter until the Typhoon comes along. :)

[ZeroPositive]

nice photos, I think they look awesome...
I would like to thank the Italians for sticking it out with the Allies in Iraq...
Unlike some nations and some people who just like to complain.... when they aren't doing there bit.

[easyand]

Italy recived 34 F16A ADF with a 8/10 years leasing,3 squadrons are equipped with F16, we have it like a "gap-filler" between the old F104 ASA and the new EF2000 (4 planes are now in the first squadron)

PS:Italian's share of PIL allocated to defense is 1.5 % :(

the first EF2000 delivered

http://www.aviopress.com/images/200405030_pratica_ef2000_f1.jpg

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[Damian]

Well maybe because used F16s still work great, destroy what they shoot or aim at and cost a lot less than the latest batch of jets. That is a pretty good set of reasons to me. If a Chevy Truck will do the trick then why would you need a Ferrari?

Because a Ferrari is Coooooooool!

(I'm kiddin')

[Damian]

Whoa, they'll do for now mate. At least the Italian AF gets to play with a nice dogfighter until the Typhoon comes along. :)[/quote]

Yeah it could be true, for now Italy doesn't need F16c or F15c but if at a future time Italy will go to war ? or there will be truble with EF-2000 ?
What will be Italy's main fighter 34 F16A ADF and 10 EF-2000 ?

[Uncle Chô]

What will be Italy's main fighter 34 F16A ADF and 10 EF-2000 ?
Not to forget the Tornados ADV on lease (this the upper picture) from the RAF ;)

[easyand]

What will be Italy's main fighter 34 F16A ADF and 10 EF-2000 ?
Not to forget the Tornados ADV on lease (this the upper picture) from the RAF ;)

bad news:tornados leasing will finish on 31 December 2004

[Operation Ivy]

well we will just send some F-22's and F-35's and help ya guys out if u get in some trouble :D

is italy part of the F-35(JSF)???

[Uncle Chô]

Yeap too bad Italia is loosing its soul...

Cinecitta closed in the late 70s (the biggest movie studios in Europe), not more stricking Macchi in the sky...
http://jlsfly.free.fr/imag_indx/hydros/macchi-M72_BW.jpg :(

American standardization rules... :roll:

[Damian]

well we will just send some F-22's and F-35's and help ya guys out if u get in some trouble :D

is italy part of the F-35(JSF)???

I Know that if Italy needs help America will send some F-22's to kick enemies' as* but I think that Italy should have a firepower like UK... It's just my opinion....

Are F-22's on sale?

Yeah Italy will buy a lot of F-35!!! I think 80 +

[Damian]

Yeap too bad Italia is loosing its soul...

Cinecitta closed in the late 70s (the biggest movie studios in Europe), not more stricking Macchi in the sky...
http://jlsfly.free.fr/imag_indx/hydros/macchi-M72_BW.jpg :(

American standardization rules... :roll:

Anyway "Gangs Of New York" was filmed in Cinecittà

[Pille1234]

too many planes in here :D

http://comanche.dnsalias.com/thermit/roland.mpg

[easyand]

well we will just send some F-22's and F-35's and help ya guys out if u get in some trouble :D

is italy part of the F-35(JSF)???

I Know that if Italy needs help America will send some F-22's to kick enemies' as* but I think that Italy should have a firepower like UK... It's just my opinion....

Are F-22's on sale?

Yeah Italy will buy a lot of F-35!!! I think 80 +

yes,2005 will be a bad year for italian's fighters with only 34 F16 and few EF 2000 ,I hope that in 2006 we have a sufficent number of EF2000.
Italy ordered 20/30 F35(SVTOL version) for the navy and 80/100 for AF.

[irra!]

PS:Italian's share of PIL allocated to defense is 1.5 % :(



it's a dream! :( :( :( now it is about 1.1-1.2% , 1.5 is a goal for the next years...

[easyand]

I've other numbers that comes from the World Bank
1992: 1.6%
1995: 1.4%
1998: 1.5%
2001: 1.5%
2003: 1.5%
2003: 1.5%

[irra!]

Yeap too bad Italia is loosing its soul...

Cinecitta closed in the late 70s (the biggest movie studios in Europe), not more stricking Macchi in the sky...
http://jlsfly.free.fr/imag_indx/hydros/macchi-M72_BW.jpg :(

American standardization rules... :roll:

cinecitta didn't closed in the late 70s , it's working for a lot of productions for tv and cinema , for italian and international productions, for example in this days are doing "Ocean Twelve" whit Steven Sodeberg , Clooney, Pitt, Zeta Jones, Damon, Willis, Julia Roberts........

and Aermacchi is flying in the skys whit mb339 one of the best trainer
, whit AMX and now also whit mb 346 new advanced trainer

[irra!]

is italy part of the F-35(JSF)???

yes , italy is part of jsf program since about 2001 , in our program for the future we will buy about 120-150 for air force (how replacement for AMX and Tornado) and about 30-35 in usmc version for the navy how repalcement for Harriers woot

[easyand]

is italy part of the F-35(JSF)???

yes , italy is part of jsf program since about 2001 , in our program for the future we will buy about 120-150 for air force (how replacement for AMX and Tornado) and about 30-35 in usmc version for the navy how repalcement for Harriers woot

F35 is the replacement for AMX (80/100 planes no more),i think that the Tornado will' be replaced by a specific version of EF2000 tranche 3 in 2020 if there aren't any sort of problems. :|

[irra!]

I've other numbers that comes from the World Bank
1992: 1.6%
1995: 1.4%
1998: 1.5%
2001: 1.5%
2003: 1.5%
2003: 1.5%

rofl rofl magari! i remember that , for example in '98 was 1.07%....

and for MoD 1.5% is a impossible goal for this legislature...

bye

[irra!]

is italy part of the F-35(JSF)???

yes , italy is part of jsf program since about 2001 , in our program for the future we will buy about 120-150 for air force (how replacement for AMX and Tornado) and about 30-35 in usmc version for the navy how repalcement for Harriers woot

F35 is the replacement for AMX (80/100 planes no more),i think that the Tornado will' be replaced by a specific version of EF2000 tranche 3 in 2020 if there aren't any sort of problems. :|

my father and my uncle are working in Alenia and they know that, for the moment and i repeat , for the moment, the numbers are those... the production will begin after 2010..

[easyand]

I really hope that we will buy a lot of F35 but i have just seen the previsions of Aeronautica&difesa..... :petting: