Interracial Couple Denied Marriage License

[gaijinsamurai]

Interracial couple denied marriage license
La. justice of the peace cites concerns about any children couple might have
The Associated Press
updated 1:41 p.m. PT, Thurs., Oct . 15, 2009
HAMMOND, La. - A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have.

Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.

Neither Bardwell nor the couple immediately returned phone calls from The Associated Press. But Bardwell told the Daily Star of Hammond that he was not a racist.

"I do ceremonies for black couples right here in my house," Bardwell said. "My main concern is for the children."

‘I feel the children will later suffer’
Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said.

"I don't do interracial marriages because I don't want to put children in a situation they didn't bring on themselves," Bardwell said. "In my heart, I feel the children will later suffer."

If he does an interracial marriage for one couple, he must do the same for all, he said.

"I try to treat everyone equally," he said.

Thirty-year-old Beth Humphrey and 32-year-old Terence McKay, both of Hammond, say they will consult the U.S. Justice Department about filing a discrimination complaint.

Humphrey told the newspaper she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to inquire about getting a marriage license signed. She says Bardwell's wife told her that Bardwell will not sign marriage licenses for interracial couples.

"It is really astonishing and disappointing to see this come up in 2009," said American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana attorney Katie Schwartzman. "The Supreme Court ruled as far back as 1963 that the government cannot tell people who they can and cannot marry."

‘He knew he was breaking the law’
The ACLU was preparing a letter for the Louisiana Supreme Court, which oversees the state justices of the peace, asking them to investigate Bardwell and see if they can remove him from office, Schwartzman said.

"He knew he was breaking the law, but continued to do it," Schwartzman said.


According to the clerk of court's office, application for a marriage license must be made three days before the ceremony because there is a 72-hour waiting period. The applicants are asked if they have previously been married. If so, they must show how the marriage ended, such as divorce.

Other than that, all they need is a birth certificate and Social Security card.

The license fee is $35, and the license must be signed by a Louisiana minister, justice of the peace or judge. The original is returned to the clerk's office.


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URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33332436/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/

[gaijinsamurai]

I know it's Louisiana, but I'm still surprised this happens in the USA.

[Kit]

He's right in the sense that some biracial kids do suffer in a racial limbo. But plenty of biracial kids grow up to be perfectly normal and well-respected adults.

American society really needs to get past this, "If you're this color, you should act this way." So many black kids feel obligated to like rap and dress in Fubu clothes. But if you get the black kid who dresses normal and has a taste for Ska music, he's labeled an "Oreo" and considered an outcast.

[gaijinsamurai]

My kids are biracial, but I think it's a lot easier for white/asian kids. Still, I've encountered a few dumbasses who think it's "unnatural".

[LineDoggie]

He broke the law, he should be removed.

[wildcat]

goberment needs to get the F out of marriage, and why do you need a license.

[Ryan Boyd]

I live in southern Louisiana, and to be honest, this does not surprise me.

[gaijinsamurai]

I live in southern Louisiana, and to be honest, this does not surprise me.

Just out of curiosity Ryan, how are the attitudes regarding white people who marry Latinos or Asians?

[Chiptox]

I know it's Louisiana, but I'm still surprised this happens in the USA.
The civil rights movement sort of skipped that state. Louisiana has serious race problems.

[Ryan Boyd]

Just out of curiosity Ryan, how are the attitudes regarding white people who marry Latinos or Asians?

From what i see its like this; Blacks get together with blacks and have secret fetishes for asians, whites are too stuck up to hang out with any one else other than whites and...... whats asian?

[edit] sorry left out the latinos, they just kinda hang out here and keep to themselves

[dave81]

Jeezus. How f cking backwards is this f cking judge? Was this is in 2009 or 1959?

[LaoSexMachine]

My kids are biracial, but I think it's a lot easier for white/asian kids.".

Pretty much the way I see it.

[goat89]

:( WTF man... just WTF.:fork::fork::fork::roll::roll::roll:

[Kit]

goberment needs to get the F out of marriage, and why do you need a license.

That's how I see it. Government shouldn't be involved in marriage. In fact, I heard this marriage license thing was invented when people were concerned about black freedmen marrying white women. The government being involved in marriage had racist intentions, and needs to get out.

Marriage is such a personal, emotional, and spiritual thing. It feels wrong that a lawyer has to say I'm married or not.

[T.S.C.Plage]

...the land of the free...

[Wildgoose]

Wow, that's pretty f'd up. My kids are biracial (half Filipino/half Irish), they were born in Florida, and I've had no problems at all anywhere down here. I guess there's still some pockets of ignorance no matter where you go in the world.

[Bringer of Greater Things]

Dude should be fired. He broke the law, and is showing no repentance. Guy admitted it to a reporter. Should be an open and shut case.

[T-5 Killer]

Dude should be fired. He broke the law, and is showing no repentance. Guy admitted it to a reporter. Should be an open and shut case.

+1 It is amazing in this day and age this could still happen.

[wigon]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091016/ap_on_re_us/us_interracial_rebuff


Read this and decide for yourself. I'm a child of mixed race so I have a bit of leverage to speak here. I think that this individual has the right to not be forced to marry people who he thinks will most likely have serious issues in the long term. There are plenty of others who will marry this couple but he has a serious point that bears examination in the particular area of the country that he lives in. Divorce is at an all-time high in America and I think that if people don't get married simply because they're infatuated with the "exotic" of other ethnicities, then they'll likely have a healthier marriage. I know because I've made that mistake of getting seriously involved with relationships in another culture that I thought was "exotic" and exciting. Very quickly you end up realizing the huge cultural differences in basic ideas that cause animosity fairly quickly once you get past the "romance" stage. Some people who marry don't get past that "romance" stage before they marry. In fact, most don't hence the very high rate of divorce in this nation due to unrealistic expecations as to what a healthy marriage should consist of.

Wigon

[Curtis E. Bear]

Already posted man

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=167028

[hammerfast]

the french.....

[hammerfast]

why would it matter , it's still luisiana , the lady is perhaps already pregnant.

[wigon]

Ah damn....then admins please delete this thread.

[wigon]

i'm a child of a successful bi-racial marriage and quite frankly I support this judge. Many people are attracted to other races purely for the "exotic" factor and do not spend a long enough courtship to properly know the person and their family (like was once traditional in America). Because of this fairly quickly, deep cultural differences occur that were obscured by the initial hot and fiery passion that always happens at the beginning of a relationship.
So ya know what? NO! This judge is NOT a racist. He's, believe it or not, looking out for people who aren't thinking straight. If they REALLY want to get married, they'lll find someone else to marry them in that state or another state. Big freak'n deal. My Mom and Dad had to get married in Venezuela for similar reasons. Only because my father is a SAINT of a man and with the patience of a god have my mother and father stayed married for 45+ years.
The fact of the matter is that very few cross-cultural marriages survive here in America unless both parties know what they're getting into.


Wigon

[hammerfast]

i'm a child of a successful bi-racial marriage and quite frankly I support this judge. Many people are attracted to other races purely for the "exotic" factor and do not spend a long enough courtship to properly know the person and their family (like was once traditional in America). Because of this fairly quickly, deep cultural differences occur that were obscured by the initial hot and fiery passion that always happens at the beginning of a relationship.
So ya know what? NO! This judge is NOT a racist. He's, believe it or not, looking out for people who aren't thinking straight. If they REALLY want to get married, they'lll find someone else to marry them in that state or another state. Big freak'n deal. My Mom and Dad had to get married in Venezuela for similar reasons. Only because my father is a SAINT of a man and with the patience of a god have my mother and father stayed married for 45+ years.
The fact of the matter is that very few cross-cultural marriages survive here in America unless both parties know what they're getting into.


Wigon

so when ur parents wanted to get married , that was illegal in the US?

[martinexsquaddie]

racist ****wit
end of

[wigon]

so when ur parents wanted to get married , that was illegal in the US?

In some many states yes. It was not for various reasons, in Colombia. Venezuela was just easier. I don't think anybody should be forced to marry anyone else. Sorry. Do you support forcing, by law, to make priests marry gay couples??? Hell, if they want to they can go to Vermont.

Wigon

[BMUS]

He's right in the sense that some biracial kids do suffer in a racial limbo.
That's f*'ckt up. You Americans always seem to have to choose 'sides'.

[hammerfast]

That's f*'ckt up. You Americans always seem to have to choose 'sides'.

its called politics (or maybe american bipartisan politics). they think they re the modern romans , that s why they get themselves obliged to do politics even at the lowest levels.

[zad]

"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."

Virgina circa 1965 p-)

[hammerfast]

"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."

Virgina circa 1965 p-)

almighty god should have put them on different planets then.

[hammerfast]

In some many states yes. It was not for various reasons, in Colombia. Venezuela was just easier. I don't think anybody should be forced to marry anyone else. Sorry. Do you support forcing, by law, to make priests marry gay couples??? Hell, if they want to they can go to Vermont.

Wigon

i support state/secular marriage in general , and i dont support gay marriage at all.

[Afro-European]

Ughhh this "judge"!!! I've a 3 years old biracial son who's not confused by any means.He's as white as he's black.
I mean this fella has no business telling people who they should marry or not.

[Breakfast in Vegas]

whites are too stuck up to hang out with any one else other than whites and...... whats asian?

[edit] sorry left out the latinos, they just kinda hang out here and keep to themselvesSounds like a kinda shyte place.

As for interracial or intercultural couples having problems after Jungle Fever/Yellow fever wears off... that may be true, but it is not for the judge to decide that it should be verboten in the state of Louisiana.

[Holycrusader]

My kids are biracial, but I think it's a lot easier for white/asian kids. Still, I've encountered a few dumbasses who think it's "unnatural".


Same here... Only difference is I have one kid.
I do not experience too much hostility, more problem is ignorance. Many Polish dumbasses are too stupid to know a difference beetwen asians and they think that all Asians are from Vietnam or China. When you said its Kazachstan, they start to talk about Russia for some reason.

One example. My 6 yrs old say in kindergarten that he have his grandmother in Kazachstan, then some child said that Russia is evil because its invaded Georgia. Then teachers said that they should not blame my son for Russia actions because he is from Ukraine...

FACEPALM

[wigon]

Ughhh this "judge"!!! I've a 3 years old biracial son who's not confused by any means.He's as white as he's black.
I mean this fella has no business telling people who they should marry or not.


But that's the thing... he's not saying they can't get married anywhere...only that he doesn't want to due to his own experiences seeing such marriages fall apart in the region that he lives in (deep south). Any kind of mixed-culture marriage is going to face certain challenges that a marriage of same-culture will not. As I mentioned before many mixed-culture marriages are done purely due to intense fascination with what they see as someone who is exotic. After the initial romance wears off, reality sets in and they suddenly realize that they are very different people with very different ways of looking at the world. Just like this judge I've seen quite a few such marriages end. Now if someone who is white is marrying someone who is black and they lived around black folks all their life then sometimes that works out, but again if the community does not support them and the families do not support the marriage...then it may not work well.

How come you don't believe in gay marriage Hammerfast?

Wigon

[little icebear]

But that's the thing... he's not saying they can't get married anywhere...only that he doesn't want to due to his own experiences seeing such marriages fall apart in the region that he lives in (deep south).

IMO he picked the wrong job if he ´s got objections to provide his service to certain couples.

Marriages fall apart all the time for any possible reason.

"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way,"

Keyword is "believe". He should leave his personal beliefs at home while he´s supposed to do his work.

[danielc]

But that's the thing... he's not saying they can't get married anywhere...only that he doesn't want to due to his own experiences seeing such marriages fall apart in the region that he lives in (deep south). Any kind of mixed-culture marriage is going to face certain challenges that a marriage of same-culture will not. As I mentioned before many mixed-culture marriages are done purely due to intense fascination with what they see as someone who is exotic. After the initial romance wears off, reality sets in and they suddenly realize that they are very different people with very different ways of looking at the world. Just like this judge I've seen quite a few such marriages end. Now if someone who is white is marrying someone who is black and they lived around black folks all their life then sometimes that works out, but again if the community does not support them and the families do not support the marriage...then it may not work well.

How come you don't believe in gay marriage Hammerfast?

Wigon

Race and culture are not the same thing though. People can be from a different "race" and also be from the same culture. What this judge is saying is that just having different skin colour somewhat makes you incompatible to be married, which is absurd.

[seraosha]

The JP will be nailed over this, be assured.

I married into a Cajun family in Iota, Louisiana, and they have been very accepting to our mixed marriage...you know, a Californian and a Cajun Princess...but jokes aside, this family has blacks, latinos and whites in it, all are coon-ass...hell, my sister in law is looking to marry a Israeli who granted isn't really very jewish, but he's also from New York...so I'm here to tell you that if a family can accept me, him, and the other odd ducks that the stereotype of the Louisiana back-woods you got a purtty mouth crap isn't always the case.

But don't let the sun set on your black ass in Vidor.

[charlie]

I'm not surprised. Take Japan for example, some places have "Japanese only" signs and there are elderly who consider Japanese girls who date/marry non Japanese men sleazy.

Sooner or later you and your kid(s) will have to deal with prejudice no matter where you live. Could be as much as subtle remarks, looks, ect...

[wigon]

It should be noted that statistically interracial marriages do have higher divorce rates (although not in some race mixes).
http://eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/custom/portlets/recordDetails/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=EJ789855&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=EJ789855

However determining why is a whole other matter. Race is really almost a mindset as far as being someone's self-identity and I disagree with others in that culture is VERY much a part of race. You can be black and still act very white culturally and thus not find a good match within your own race. Nevertheless, the statistics show that you're less likely to get divorced staying within your race. The JP has science on his side with all the studies showing the same thing. However it is a good point that marrying people is his job. So legally, I assume that he could be fired for not doing his job.

Wigon

[BMUS]

I'm not surprised. Take Japan for example, some places have "Japanese only" signs and there are elderly who consider Japanese girls who date/marry non Japanese men sleazy.

Sooner or later you and your kid(s) will have to deal with prejudice no matter where you live. Could be as much as subtle remarks, looks, ect...
Just like you sooner or later will accept getting slapped?

NEVER accept prejudice.

[wigon]

Just like you sooner or later will accept getting slapped?

NEVER accept prejudice.


We're all prejudiced in some way or another. We just don't like admitting it. If we do admit it, we get called a racist and so we can't honestly talk about our own prejudices in a civil manner in these days of political correctness.

Wigon

[gaijinsamurai]

^ Agree with you there, wigon. Working as a parole & probation officer for 6.5 years, I can tell you it's next to impossible not to develop prejudices against certain groups of people, based on experience.

The problem is when a person lets their prejudices effect their professional behavior, and fail to treat people as individuals, rather than representatives of their collective race/ethnicity.

[gaijinsamurai]

I'm not surprised. Take Japan for example, some places have "Japanese only" signs and there are elderly who consider Japanese girls who date/marry non Japanese men sleazy.

...

You think Japan is the only country with this issue? Try dating an Arab, Indian, Armenian, Korean, or Chinese woman!

[pg_ord]

My aunt an ethnic Indian has been married to an American for about 10+ years now, this attitude was a major reason why they moved out of Louisiana. It will take a while for such things to go away.:-(... it is not easy on the families either. :( ....my grandmother was pissed initially now after kids they are very accepting. :(

[Jobu]

The license fee is $35, and the license must be signed by a Louisiana minister, justice of the peace or judge.

This couple can simply go to somebody else who is willing to sign the license.

End of.

[gaijinsamurai]

^ True, but I think the principle of the matter is what probably stings the most for the couple.

It's one thing to have to deal with this sort of thing in other countries and with other cultures, but to be denied the right to marry in one's own country, by someone who probably doesn't even know you as a person, would be tough to deal with.

[BMUS]

We're all prejudiced in some way or another. We just don't like admitting it. If we do admit it, we get called a racist and so we can't honestly talk about our own prejudices in a civil manner in these days of political correctness.

Wigon
Ofc we are, still dosn't mean we have to just 'accept it' when being subjected to it.

[Jobu]

^ True, but I think the principle of the matter is what probably stings the most for the couple.

It's one thing to have to deal with this sort of thing in other countries and with other cultures, but to be denied the right to marry in one's own country, by someone who probably doesn't even know you as a person, would be tough to deal with.

They haven't been denied the right to marry.

This one guy simply refused to sign the license. They can go down the street to the next guy and he'll sign it. At most they've been inconvenienced because this guy thinks bi-racial children have it rough. Big whoop.

[Breerman]

It's generally not accepted here.

[cangrejo]

I know it's Louisiana, but I'm still surprised this happens in the USA.
how can you be surprised it happens in usa? discrimination there happening every day.

[Elbs]

Yes, terrible America. We should be ashamed of our country, the only place in the world were racism and discrimination occur on a daily basis...

gtfo

[cangrejo]

Yes, terrible America. We should be ashamed of our country, the only place in the world were racism and discrimination occur on a daily basis...

gtfo
i didnt say it happens only in usa, can you not read? and yes, it happens alot in usa.

[cangrejo]

Yes, terrible America. We should be ashamed of our country, the only place in the world were racism and discrimination occur on a daily basis...

gtfo
oh, and this anti mexican rally full of war mongering republicans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQQzMFD-HBE

[Gleipnir]

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv2/radialsesamoid/ad.jpg
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[Bathinus]

:( WTF man... just WTF.:fork::fork::fork::roll::roll::roll:
my thoughts exactly

[BMUS]

how can you be surprised it happens in usa? discrimination there happening every day.
I've seen 2 posts of you so far, both of em' have been some kind of futile attempt to bash the US.

Enjoy your stay hombre, no-one will miss you.

[pg_ord]

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv2/radialsesamoid/ad.jpg
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rofl gold.

[cangrejo]

I've seen 2 posts of you so far, both of em' have been some kind of futile attempt to bash the US.

Enjoy your stay hombre, no-one will miss you.
oh im sorry, its okay for the usa to critize every single nation in the world, but i cannot under any circumstance criticize usa? i thought usa enjoyed freedom of speach? or is it only for when it benefits usa? you sure do like to criticize other nations, but i cannot criticize yours. hypocrite.

[BMUS]

oh im sorry, its okay for the usa to critize every single nation in the world, but i cannot under any circumstance criticize usa? i thought usa enjoyed freedom of speach? or is it only for when it benefits usa? you sure do liek to criticize other nations, but i cannot criticize yours. hypocrite.
Hey hombre, I havent criticised anyone. I'm not American and freedom of speech does not apply on a private messege board.

So **** you and your ***** envy towards the US.

[shiftypowpow]

Obvious troll is obvious

[cangrejo]

Hey hombre, I havent criticised anyone. I'm not American and freedom of speech does not apply on a private messege board.

So **** you and your ***** envy towards the US.
yes, you have. going thru your your posts i can see you have hate towards nations that do not support usa, and mexico.
So **** you and your ***** envy

[gaijinsamurai]

They haven't been denied the right to marry.

This one guy simply refused to sign the license. They can go down the street to the next guy and he'll sign it. At most they've been inconvenienced because this guy thinks bi-racial children have it rough. Big whoop.

So, then by your reasoning, it's okay for certain restaurants or hotels to turn away mixed-race couples, or even individuals based on their race, simply because they " can go down the street", to somewhere else, in the hopes being served.

I'll bet you wouldn't be saying "big whoop" if you were the one it was happening to.

[BMUS]

yes, you have. going thru your your posts i can see you have hate towards nations that do not support usa, and mexico.
So **** you and your ***** envy
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w299/mrdjs7/TrollBGone.jpg

[gaijinsamurai]

how can you be surprised it happens in usa? discrimination there happening every day.

I'm not surprised at all that people have personal prejudices and old-fashioned attitudes towards this sort of thing.

What surprises me is that it would still happen on an official level.

And by the way, where are you from, and what experience do you have with this sort of thing, to not be surprised by it? Has an American governmental official ever descriminated against you due to your race or ethnicity, or because you had a significant other who was of another race?

[seraosha]

50 different states...you folks outside don't get the concept, do you?

[cangrejo]

I'm not surprised at all that people have personal prejudices and old-fashioned attitudes towards this sort of thing.

What surprises me is that it would still happen on an official level.

And by the way, where are you from, and what experience do you have with this sort of thing, to not be surprised by it? Has an American governmental official ever descriminated against you due to your race or ethnicity, or because you had a significant other who was of another race?
i used to live in the bryan city of the state of texas in united states, and a certain people discriminated against us latinos. they did ALOT of harsh things to us, one of my friends was beaten by a group of white males and the police didnt want to go as far as to find out why, and who did it. but we knew why, we always knew why.

[cangrejo]

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w299/mrdjs7/TrollBGone.jpg Ah, i can see it know. if i critizise USA, that makes me a "troll", but when YOU criticize mexico, it makes it your opinion, right? this is my opinion and what i have experienced first hand in the united states.

[HGRazorR]

oh, and this anti mexican rally full of war mongering republicans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQQzMFD-HBE

LoL, I didn't read the Title Description before I began watching this and thought it was filmed back in the 80's - where the hell is this place trapped in time? Geez....

And it looks like a Judge in Louisiana hasn't payed much attention during his ConLaw class during law school...

[BMUS]

Ah, i can see it know. if i critizise USA, that makes me a "troll", but when YOU criticize mexico, it makes it your opinion, right? this is my opinion and what i have experienced first hand in the united states.
Hit me up with one single post where I criticize the great state of Mexico. I'll be waiting....

[cangrejo]

LoL, I didn't read the Title Description before I began watching this and thought it was filmed back in the 80's - where the hell is this place trapped in time? Geez....

And it looks like a Judge in Louisiana hasn't payed much attention during his ConLaw class during law school...
houston, texas outside a mexican consulate in 2006

[cangrejo]

Hit me up with one single post where I criticize the great state of Mexico. I'll be waiting....
you repeatedly use your racism to exploit the spanish word "hombre" when it is not neccesary, if i refered to you as "FATASS ****" you wouldn't be smiling and enjoying all those calories in your big mac so well now would you?

[kinney_bmx]

oh im sorry, its okay for the usa to critize every single nation in the world, but i cannot under any circumstance criticize usa? i thought usa enjoyed freedom of speach? or is it only for when it benefits usa? you sure do like to criticize other nations, but i cannot criticize yours. hypocrite.
Bashing is not generally accepted no matter who the hell you are, youve posted that video in what? Two different threads now? Sorry but even the big bad USA doesnt give a **** what you think

Also how is BMUS using hombre disrespectful to the entire country of Mexico

[Jobu]

So, then by your reasoning, it's okay for certain restaurants or hotels to turn away mixed-race couples, or even individuals based on their race, simply because they " can go down the street", to somewhere else, in the hopes being served.

I'll bet you wouldn't be saying "big whoop" if you were the one it was happening to.

Marriage license =/= restaurant service.

[cangrejo]

Bashing is not generally accepted no matter who the hell you are, youve posted that video in what? Two different threads now? Sorry but even the big bad USA doesnt give a **** what you think

Also how is BMUS using hombre disrespectful to the entire country of Mexico
so i guess if i went around saying " 9/11 is a waste a time, it was a joke no one gives a ****' it would be acceptable, following your logic. ive read alot of different posts from lots of different people, for say, this "Breerman" guy gets a rise out of insulting russia and its people, yet you americans find it okay, theres alot of posts that are derogatory, yet you find them funny.

[SBL]

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[BMUS]

you repeatedly use your racism to exploit the spanish word "hombre" when it is not neccesary, if i refered to you as "FATASS ****" you wouldn't be smiling and enjoying all those calories in your big mac so well now would you?
Well. As I stated earlier, hombre, I am not American, now try to get that through your thick skull of yours since I do not dine at any form of fast food restaurant at all, so don't even try to project your stereotype of Americans on me.
I do still wonder where all those post are where I criticize the state of Mexico?
Maybe you haven't found one?

Oh, and Mexican food also sucks.

[cangrejo]

Well. As I stated earlier, hombre, I am not American, now try to get that through your thick skull of yours since I do not dine at any form of fast food restaurant at all, so don't even try to project your stereotype of Americans on me.
I do still wonder where all those post are where I criticize the state of Mexico?
Maybe you haven't found one?

Oh, and Mexican food also sucks.
its okay, i dont fancy mcdonalds either, you fat american ****

[BMUS]

its okay, i dont fancy mcdonalds either, you fat american ****
...


I just want you to know your country has a 150% higher obesity rate then mine.

fatty

[Gleipnir]

Cangrejo-

http://i40.tinypic.com/o5wdqb.jpg

[wicked_hind]

Oh, and Mexican food also sucks.

Damn dude, you done crossed the line there.....

[gaijinsamurai]

Marriage license =/= restaurant service.

Come on, Jobu! You can do better than that!
Please try to explain to me why this official is justified in denying a couple the right to be married, based on their respective races, and why it's no big deal for them to be turned away.

[azsworst]

Bet the judge wouldn't think twice of marrying two WHITE cousins who live in the same trailerpark......like that wouldn't be bad for the kids...

As half white/half mexican AMERICAN, I've delt with a lot of ****. I've been screwed with because I look white by mexicans, I've been screwed with because I have a hispanic last name by whites and blacks......point is I've delt with racism from both sides. HOWEVER, because of that I've grown into someone who can understand different POVs better than someone who is full white/mexican/or black.

A judge saying he won't do a marriage based on race should get a beating from both sides of the couples family. Honestly, in America, we are too light on people like this. It's bull**** that it's ok to walk down the streets speading hate and pointing out differences in hopes of heightening the barriers that already exist. Don't people understand that at this point in earths existence, it is pointless to stick to your "race" (even though we are all the HUMAN RACE) thinking it will provide better security/whatever for the future? Don't they realize that if we don't stop our **** and work together it won't matter what race you are because we'll all be dead? Sure maybe not in our lifetime, our childrens lifetime, or even their childrends lifetime......but when the earth can't sustain life anymore, is anyone going to be more alive because of their skin color?

It's this old age thinking that is bringing the world down. It's this type of reasoning that is making lil jihaddists, lil KKK members, and other groups that need to be wiped from the face of the earth. And if ANYONE tries to start **** cause I said jihad, I'm talking about the extremeist and radicals that aren't true muslims, who are only hiding behind islam for personal gain. Muhammad said killing a brother/sister of islam, or an innocent is wrong, and you will go to hell for it.

[cangrejo]

Cangrejo-

http://i40.tinypic.com/o5wdqb.jpg what the **** you showing me this starwars **** for?

[shocker1]

Bet the judge wouldn't think twice of marrying two WHITE cousins who live in the same trailerpark.....
LOL thread over, truth.

[BearInBunnySuit]

Bet the judge wouldn't think twice of marrying two WHITE cousins who live in the same trailerpark......like that wouldn't be bad for the kids...

As half white/half mexican AMERICAN, I've delt with a lot of ****. I've been screwed with because I look white by mexicans, I've been screwed with because I have a hispanic last name by whites and blacks......point is I've delt with racism from both sides. HOWEVER, because of that I've grown into someone who can understand different POVs better than someone who is full white/mexican/or black.

A judge saying he won't do a marriage based on race should get a beating from both sides of the couples family. Honestly, in America, we are too light on people like this. It's bull**** that it's ok to walk down the streets speading hate and pointing out differences in hopes of heightening the barriers that already exist. Don't people understand that at this point in earths existence, it is pointless to stick to your "race" (even though we are all the HUMAN RACE) thinking it will provide better security/whatever for the future? Don't they realize that if we don't stop our **** and work together it won't matter what race you are because we'll all be dead? Sure maybe not in our lifetime, our childrens lifetime, or even their childrends lifetime......but when the earth can't sustain life anymore, is anyone going to be more alive because of their skin color?

It's this old age thinking that is bringing the world down. It's this type of reasoning that is making lil jihaddists, lil KKK members, and other groups that need to be wiped from the face of the earth. And if ANYONE tries to start **** cause I said jihad, I'm talking about the extremeist and radicals that aren't true muslims, who are only hiding behind islam for personal gain. Muhammad said killing a brother/sister of islam, or an innocent is wrong, and you will go to hell for it.

Well said!

[Gleipnir]

what the **** you showing me this starwars **** for?

Hahaha,
that's me waving bye-bye to you. It was fun while you lasted.

[seraosha]

You guys are a bunch of hysterical pantywaists.

One JP, in a hick town, uses true stastics to back up his assinine opinion, and suddenly this is something to do with Mexico?

Man, wtf over.

[Dominique]

As I mentioned before many mixed-culture marriages are done purely due to intense fascination with what they see as someone who is exotic. After the initial romance wears off, reality sets in and they suddenly realize that they are very different people with very different ways of looking at the world.

You're sh*ting me, right? If not, what rock are you living under? I hate to break this to you, but most marriages/relationships all start off with a "honeymoon" period where the couple is drawn together, and their partners can do no wrong. Not just "mixed race" relationships. And guess what, many couples have "different ways of looking at the world."

[gaijinsamurai]

x2, Dom. When I married my wife, I had already lived in Asia for over three years, and the fascination to a new culture had already faded.
And yeah, every relationship begins with rose-tinted glasses, as they say, and as a person spends time with their BF/GF, they begin to see that person more and more as an individual with strengths and weaknesses, and before long, it's time to decide if you want to spend the rest of your time with that person.

But, only someone who's been in a relationship or two would understand that.....