five best CT units(quastion)

[israeli dude]

i have a quastion,its ceind of stupid but its interest me.
and i ask whan you anser it plz no patriotism.

who are the five best couner-terror units in the world???

[Tane Angle]

Can I cheat a little? I'm going to go with US, British Commonwealth( ;), Canada, Aus. and NZ are all Commonwealth members, right?), Israel, EU, and Russia, in no particular order. What? p-)

That's a tough question, bud. I can't really limit it to five, and don't want to hurt anyone's feelings by inevitably leaving someone out accidentally, so I'll just say I have no clue.

[duck]

Classified information, sorry.

[KalleBalleSvartSk@lle]

Isn't it those that are in counterstrike????!!!!!!!!?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol omfg lololoooool loool wtf omg ma stfu1111111111111!!!!!!!!!!

(An answer meant to fit the question)

[-=TFN=-Karab]

who are the five best couner-terror units in the world???
The guys who work for Terminix... Now, they kill all those little terrorists...

[sgt.pepper]

brigades of the el-aksa martyrs hehehe just kidding rofl :D

[NBC Trooper]

i have a quastion,its ceind of stupid but its interest me.
and i ask whan you anser it plz no patriotism.

who are the five best couner-terror units in the world???

Who won the last CT world cup?

[moughoun]

i have a quastion,its ceind of stupid but its interest me.
and i ask whan you anser it plz no patriotism.

who are the five best couner-terror units in the world???

Who won the last CT world cup?

Cobra from Austria, 2nd was NOCS from Italy, 3rd was the ARW from Ireland woot woot woot :D

[memphiz]

JTF-2

[EvanL]

Super Friends.

[Gringo]

ATTENTION!!!

FLAME BAIT!!!!

[memphiz]

Jesus

[cut]

Jesus

we have a winner!

[Flagg]

My vote goes to the Very Special Forces, Operation Short Bus

These guys are sooooo special, even they don't know it. ;)

http://evylmyke.ca/musings/imgs/article%20imgs/downssoldier.gif

http://www.yarsh.com/images/put/plane_bus.gif

[Ratamacue]

I vote the unit that gets the job done.

[memphiz]

My vote goes to the Very Special Forces, Operation Short Bus

These guys are sooooo special, even they don't know it. ;)

http://evylmyke.ca/musings/imgs/article%20imgs/downssoldier.gif

http://www.yarsh.com/images/put/plane_bus.gif
http://www.keystonehumanservices.org/img/photos/main/squirtGun.jpg

[moughoun]

Jesus

we have a winner!

No I don't think Jesus did the 5 HALO jump's to get his wing's yet p-)

[kommando]

dude youll get struck down soon
haha

does australias SASR ever comepete in any competitions,
we seem like the country that wouldnt

private but would snap your fibula just liek that

*snap*

[moughoun]

dude youll get struck down soon
haha

does australias SASR ever comepete in any competitions,
we seem like the country that wouldnt

private but would snap your fibula just liek that

*snap*

Thay sent member's of a TAG to the CTC in Germany last year

[perdurabo]

Go Jesus Go!

[mack pl]

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[n4292936]

Aussie! Aussie! Aussie!
TAG! TAG! TAG! ;)

www.AusSpecialForces.com
Im just a web slut, i know :P
That's OK though cause Moughoun is my Pimp woot :hug:

[moughoun]

Aussie! Aussie! Aussie!
TAG! TAG! TAG! ;)

www.AusSpecialForces.com
Im just a web slut, i know :P
That's OK though cause Moughoun is my Pimp woot :hug:

Before you get too excited they came..........................8th sorry :( :( :( :( :( :petting: :petting:

[n4292936]

can you list the rankings?

[mack pl]

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[moughoun]

can you list the rankings?

1. Jesus
2. Delta Force
3. Satan
4. Mega Force
5. GROM

happy now :P


:lol:

I'd be careful Mack, once you see where GROM came :P

[Gringo]

The Autobots!

[mack pl]

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[n4292936]

anyone?

[moughoun]

can you list the rankings?

1ST. GEK COBRA. Austria
2nd. NOCS. Italy
3rd. ARW. Ireland woot
4th.GIGN. France
5th.JTF-2. Canada
6th.SAPS. South Africa
7thCol Moschin. Italy
8th TAG. Australia
9th. 707th SMB. South Korea
10th.SIE/ESI (Diane). Belgium



I have the whole 33 team list if you want?

[mack pl]

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[n4292936]

I thought you said Aus was 8th? Are these the CT results?

never mind - you edited

[moughoun]

can you list the rankings?

1. Jesus
2. Delta Force
3. Satan
4. Mega Force
5. GROM

happy now :P


:lol:

I'd be careful Mack, once you see where GROM came :P

p-)

this thread is stupid;-)

Don't be a sore loser ;)

[moughoun]

I thought you said Aus was 8th? Are these the CT results?

never mind - you edited

I know, I fixed it :oops: , and yes from last year's CTC which is held every 4 year's by GSG-9

[mack pl]

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[moughoun]

Don't be a sore loser ;)

:roll:

Hey don't bring it unless you can back it up :P

omg I'm talking like an American :oops:

[mack pl]

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[Fargin]

Ninjas are cool too.

[moughoun]

Don't be a sore loser ;)

:roll:

Hey don't bring it unless you can back it up :P

omg I'm talking like an American :oops:

nie wiem o co Ci chodzi, ale spox

Come on now at least insult me in English, let's keep this fair :(

[mack pl]

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[moughoun]

Don't be a sore loser ;)

:roll:

Hey don't bring it unless you can back it up :P

omg I'm talking like an American :oops:

nie wiem o co Ci chodzi, ale spox

Come on now at least insult me in English, let's keep this fair :(

I said-

I have no idea what do you mean, but i dont care ;)

If I ever use words like- Chuj, kutas, pedał- it will be mean that I wanna insult you bro p-)

:lol:

Good so I can chuck them back at you, alright then p-)

GROM came 19th btw :petting:

[mack pl]

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[-Max2-]

1ST. GEK COBRA. Austria
2nd. NOCS. Italy
3rd. ARW. Ireland
4th.GIGN. France
5th.JTF-2. Canada
6th.SAPS. South Africa
7thCol Moschin. Italy
8th TAG. Australia
9th. 707th SMB. South Korea
10th.SIE/ESI (Diane). Belgium



I have the whole 33 team list if you want?


I am interested.

[moughoun]

Don't be a sore loser ;)

:roll:

Hey don't bring it unless you can back it up :P

omg I'm talking like an American :oops:

nie wiem o co Ci chodzi, ale spox

Come on now at least insult me in English, let's keep this fair :(

I said-

I have no idea what do you mean, but i dont care ;)

If I ever use words like- Chuj, kutas, pedał- it will be mean that I wanna insult you bro p-)

:lol:

Good so I can chuck them back at you, alright then p-)

GROM came 19th btw :petting:

hey, I didn't called you -Chuj, kutas(its **** and ****) or pedał(faggot) :roll: ......damn, I learned you 3 very imortant polish words :lol:


btw GROM 19th :cantbeli: give us all list......btw who made this list :roll:

Sorry Mack I didn't think they ment that **** :hug:

The list was published in the Irish Defence Forces mag AN Cosintor (the warrior), can't get much more official ;)

[n4292936]

Im interested in the extended list too. Did the US compete? the Israelis? Asian countries? Brits?
cheers Moughoun

[mack pl]

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[moughoun]

Ok I am at 10 so

11th. er RPI Ma. France
12th. KSK. Germany
13th. FBI HRT. USA
14th.SSG. Swedan
15th. GEOS. Spain
16th. NZSAS. New Zealand
17th. KCT. The Netherland's
18th. GROM. Poland
19th. SOU-71. Jordan
20th.ETA. Greece
21st. RAID. France
22nd. GERR/MEC. Brazil
23rd. Comsubin.italy
24th. SCTU. India
25th. SFCTU. Kuwait
26th.BBE. The Netherland's
27th.GOE. Portugal
28th. SOF. Singapore
29th.ODSD. Slovenia
30th. Goe-11. Spain
31st. SIB. Venezuela
32nd. SEAL CT. Thailand
33rd. MYK. Greece

No Brit's, Yank's or Isreali's :( [/i]

[moughoun]

Sorry Mack I didn't think they ment that **** :hug:

The list was published in the Irish Defence Forces mag AN Cosintor (the warrior), can't get much more official ;)

1) Im not any of this 3 , so I dont feel ofended :lol:

2) what a rules(criteria) they have when they created this list?I mean: number of actions, weapons, trening etc.????

regards

PS.damn, write this all list man :bash:

:lol:
It wasan actual competion held over a week at the GSG-9 base, where they test all the skill's thata ct/hru would need, rapelling, high speeddriving, shooting ect with all the team against each other, I have pic's and it look's ferocious :D :(

[mack pl]

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[israeli dude]

ok ok i got it it was a stupid quastion

[israeli dude]

ok ok i got it it was a stupid quastion

[moughoun]

This list is BS :bash:

and you are liar :bash: GROM is 18th not, 19th :bash:

this thread is stupid

Sorry typo Grom were 18th, calm down it was just a competion, and the ctc (Combat team conference) is not bs it's run by GSG-9 every 4 year's, give me a break I've been up for almost24 hour's and I'm reading out of a bloody long article :hug:

[moughoun]

This list is BS :bash:

and you are liar :bash: GROM is 18th not, 19th :bash:

this thread is stupid
Why is it stupid, GROM came 18, next time they could win it, the scoring was extremily tight, ****ing fraction's of point's were seperating team's

[mack pl]

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[-Max2-]

This list is BS

and you are liar GROM is 18th not, 19th

Why ? I have also read something about this CT competition in a military magazine.

Btw, the Americans and Brits were not present in this competition (following the war in Afghanistan and Iraq i guess).

[mack pl]

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[mack pl]

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[moughoun]

Why is it stupid, GROM came 18, next time they could win it, the scoring was extremily tight, f*** fraction's of point's were seperating team's

yup, I hope they will winn in next time ;)

regards

You'll have to get past us first ;) , wow the Pole's are very like the Irish, alway's ready to lay a little whoop ass on at a moment's notice :hug:

[mack pl]

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[Catch22]

Yes we're very much like Irish. Many draw such conclussion ;)

After I've talked lately to gen. Petelicki (GROM 1st CO and founder) several weeks ago - Poland sometimes has the potential and skills but just lacks the resources... That was seen in several cases in Iraq where GROM was involved :|

And to mack: Maciek, przyjacielu - przestan nabijac posty niewiele wnoszacymi komentarzami na kazdy temat... malo ze kaleczysz język to jeszcze slabo to wypada "na arenie międzynarodowej" :cantbeli:

[Freibier]

GSG9 not on that list?

[moughoun]

GSG9 not on that list?

No. since they host it and own the trophy they don't take part

[moughoun]

Yes we're very much like Irish. Many draw such conclussion ;)

After I've talked lately to gen. Petelicki (GROM 1st CO and founder) several weeks ago - Poland sometimes has the potential and skills but just lacks the resources... That was seen in several cases in Iraq where GROM was involved :|

And to mack: Maciek, przyjacielu - przestan nabijac posty niewiele wnoszacymi komentarzami na kazdy temat... malo ze kaleczysz język to jeszcze slabo to wypada "na arenie międzynarodowej" :cantbeli:

it even say's it in the article, the comp was very very close, on event's with maximum 100 point score's the top 20 were seperated by 7 point's they had to use fraction's it was so tight, If we had gotten a few more point's we would have won, if we had lost a few we would hve come 20, you shouldn't take GROM position as where they finish they had a top 3, and 2 top 5 finish's, it was the average atthe end of the week that was counted

[Freibier]

GSG9 not on that list?

No. since they host it and own the trophy they don't take part
Thanks, thought they take part too

[sgt.pepper]

and YAMAM is absent too , it's not fair

[ZeroPositive]

hmm no SAS no SDU etc or asian CT forces :(

[brigadeotg]

Ok I am at 10 so

24th. SCTU. India

[/i]

What the heck is SCTU? :D

[memphiz]

Jesus

we have a winner!

No I don't think Jesus did the 5 HALO jump's to get his wing's yet p-)
Dude Jesus has magic powers and he can fly

[SpikeATGM]

Guys in special unit like SOF are never interested in being champion. They are more interested in doing their job well. At this least this is the impression I got from some SOF guys in my country. They never show off their elite trooper status and are usually very quiet about their job.

[HooyahCQB]

Ok I am at 10 so

11th. er RPI Ma. France
12th. KSK. Germany
13th. FBI HRT. USA
14th.SSG. Swedan
15th. GEOS. Spain
16th. NZSAS. New Zealand
17th. KCT. The Netherland's
18th. GROM. Poland
19th. SOU-71. Jordan
20th.ETA. Greece
21st. RAID. France
22nd. GERR/MEC. Brazil
23rd. Comsubin.italy
24th. SCTU. India
25th. SFCTU. Kuwait
26th.BBE. The Netherland's
27th.GOE. Portugal
28th. SOF. Singapore
29th.ODSD. Slovenia
30th. Goe-11. Spain
31st. SIB. Venezuela
32nd. SEAL CT. Thailand
33rd. MYK. Greece

No Brit's, Yank's or Isreali's :( [/i]



A real CT competition? HAHAHA. You see....British, American, and Israeli SpecOps don't fight with rules. Why would they be in a such a competition? Competitions have rules...

[-Max2-]

A real CT competition? HAHAHA. You see....British, American, and Israeli SpecOps don't fight with rules. Why would they be in a such a competition? Competitions have rules...

1st SFOD-D, SEAL Team Six and the 22nd SAS have participed in such competitions in the past. If they were not present this time , its probably because they were busy with Afghanistan and Iraq...

I even have the results of a CTC (Combat Team Competition) held in June 93 in Germany where Delta finished first and ST6 finished fourth...

[kommando]

SASR was involved in the war on terror....

and that is CT stuff right
do they ever hold um like military ones as in our actual SASR (not tag/oat)


and i heard delta are the finest shots in the world at CQB?

although i suppose everyone is human and can only be trained to a certain level

[sgt.pepper]

and where are the pakistani rangers with one spare grenade old british helmet lee enfield rifle and very sophisticated combat vest - belt.

[moughoun]

hmm no SAS no SDU etc or asian CT forces :(

Aren't South Korea, Thailand and India in Asia ;)

[moughoun]

Ok I am at 10 so

24th. SCTU. India

[/i]

What the heck is SCTU? :D

The ct unit of the para-commandos

[moughoun]

SASR was involved in the war on terror....

and that is CT stuff right
do they ever hold um like military ones as in our actual SASR (not tag/oat)


and i heard delta are the finest shots in the world at CQB?

although i suppose everyone is human and can only be trained to a certain level

The TAG that took part was from the SASR

[moughoun]

A real CT competition? HAHAHA. You see....British, American, and Israeli SpecOps don't fight with rules. Why would they be in a such a competition? Competitions have rules...

1st SFOD-D, SEAL Team Six and the 22nd SAS have participed in such competitions in the past. If they were not present this time , its probably because they were busy with Afghanistan and Iraq...

I even have the results of a CTC (Combat Team Competition) held in June 93 in Germany where Delta finished first and ST6 finished fourth...

Would you post them please :D

[sgt.pepper]

yep delta have you forgotten somalia and iranian desert failures

[MEGR]

yep delta have you forgotten somalia and iranian desert failures

Those weren't competitions. They were real life. If you really want to get technical, its mainly either the Politicians fault for pulling 'em outta Somalia too early too get Aidid (although I doubt i would help Somalia much anyways), and the AF fault for f**king up by colliding with each other at Desert One. Anyways, I think for the most part CTs in all countries are good. Plus without Desert One, 160th, and SOCOM wouldn't be around now.

[moughoun]

yep delta have you forgotten somalia and iranian desert failures

Ah, the Somalia operation succeeded, and the Iranian op was an accident, Delta had nothing to do with the failure

[-Max2-]

1st SFOD-D, SEAL Team Six and the 22nd SAS have participed in such competitions in the past. If they were not present this time , its probably because they were busy with Afghanistan and Iraq...

I even have the results of a CTC (Combat Team Competition) held in June 93 in Germany where Delta finished first and ST6 finished fourth...Would you post them please

I have only the first ten teams:

1. 1st SFOD-D (USA)
2. GEK Cobra (Austria)
3. SEK Rheinland-Pfalz (Germany)
4. SEAL Team Six (USA)
5. SEK Sudbayern (Germany)
6. SEK Baden-Wurtemberg (Germany)
7. Kantopolizei Aaragu, Team Argus (Switzerland)
8. SEK Nordbayern (Germany)
9. SEK Niedersachsen (Germany)
10. Kantonpolizei Bern, Team Enzian (Switzerland)

This competition was held in St. Augustin, Germany (home of the GSG9) in 1993 and 39 Counter-Terrorist and Special Forces units were present. The competition tested the operators shooting, driving and obstacle course skills.

[sgt.pepper]

every combat unit ultimate test is real-life combat mission and real fight in the end, competitions will not show what your team is able to do being under fire.Bear this in mind

[moughoun]

1st SFOD-D, SEAL Team Six and the 22nd SAS have participed in such competitions in the past. If they were not present this time , its probably because they were busy with Afghanistan and Iraq...

I even have the results of a CTC (Combat Team Competition) held in June 93 in Germany where Delta finished first and ST6 finished fourth...Would you post them please

I have only the first ten teams:

1. 1st SFOD-D (USA)
2. GEK Cobra (Austria)
3. SEK Rheinland-Pfalz (Germany)
4. SEAL Team Six (USA)
5. SEK Sudbayern (Germany)
6. SEK Baden-Wurtemberg (Germany)
7. Kantopolizei Aaragu, Team Argus (Switzerland)
8. SEK Nordbayern (Germany)
9. SEK Niedersachsen (Germany)
10. Kantonpolizei Bern, Team Enzian (Switzerland)

This competition was held in St. Augustin, Germany (home of the GSG9) in 1993 and 39 Counter-Terrorist and Special Forces units were present. The competition tested the operators shooting, driving and obstacle course skills.

Than's, I wonder why the German SEK, unit's didn't take part in 2003

[sgt.pepper]

why germans have so many ct units?

[-Max2-]

Germany is a federal country and each Lander (state) have their own CT/SWAT unit (SEK).

[Vesper]

No SAS? That's preposterous, they deserve a mention simply because of this;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/media/video/otdvideo/80/05/06/6505_06-05-80?size=4x3&bgc=6699CC&nbram=1&nbram=1&bbram=1&news=1

I would be interested for anyone to inform me of any failed SAS CT operations as there are many other Special Forces with a rather worse record... :roll:

[Seraphim]

No SAS? That's preposterous, they deserve a mention simply because of this;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/media/video/otdvideo/80/05/06/6505_06-05-80?size=4x3&bgc=6699CC&nbram=1&nbram=1&bbram=1&news=1

I would be interested for anyone to inform me of any failed SAS CT operations as there are many other Special Forces with a rather worse record... :roll:

:cantbeli:

[sgt.pepper]

SAS is legendary unit they are one of the most expierienced and combat proven units in the world, we should remember what SAS reserve team led by andy mcnab did to the iraquis during GW1. Their honour should be regained they deserve it.

[moughoun]

The reason the SAS, or Delta force and the SEAL's didn'ttake part was, they were and are slightly to busy at the moment, it has nothing to do with past op's or anything else, and for God sake it's only a friendly compeition, not life or death :cantbeli:

[sgt.pepper]

moughoun i want your avatar girl

[moughoun]

[delete

[moughoun]

moughoun i want your avatar girl

That's my sister :fork:

[sgt.pepper]

that was great ,is she hot?

[moughoun]

that was great ,is she hot?

Your not deterred I see ;)

[sgt.pepper]

is she fu.........le too

[moughoun]

is she fu.........le too

I'll ask, but she is a bit pickey p-)

[sgt.pepper]

my soldier will give her full satisfaction

[brigadeotg]

Ok I am at 10 so

24th. SCTU. India

[/i]

What the heck is SCTU? :D

The ct unit of the para-commandos

Moughoun,
Thanks. Do you have a source or more details on the SCTU? I have never heard of them. Most. if not all , para commandos are also invloved in CT ops. Is there a special unit for CT only? Can you provide more details on this unit and their participation in this event..

Thanks in advance

[moughoun]

Ok I am at 10 so

24th. SCTU. India

[/i]

What the heck is SCTU? :D

The ct unit of the para-commandos

Moughoun,
Thanks. Do you have a source or more details on the SCTU? I have never heard of them. Most. if not all , para commandos are also invloved in CT ops. Is there a special unit for CT only? Can you provide more details on this unit and their participation in this event..

Thanks in advance


No problem, SCTU (special counter terrorist unit) of the Para commandos, is around 100 strong, formed in 1979 and is reputed to be Asia's finest HRU,it is based at Sarsawa airbase in uttar predesh, Extremily well trained SCTU personnel are airborne and commando trained before joining, they then develope a wide range of specialist HRU skills including CQB, breaching,rappeling,surveillance techniques, communication and the use of explosive's, basically they are India's SAS or Delta force, happy with that :)

[brigadeotg]

Moughoun,
Thanks. Do you have a source or more details on the SCTU? I have never heard of them. Most. if not all , para commandos are also invloved in CT ops. Is there a special unit for CT only? Can you provide more details on this unit and their participation in this event..

Thanks in advance


No problem, SCTU (special counter terrorist unit) of the Para commandos, is around 100 strong, formed in 1979 and is reputed to be Asia's finest HRU,it is based at Sarsawa airbase in uttar predesh, Extremily well trained SCTU personnel are airborne and commando trained before joining, they then develope a wide range of specialist HRU skills including CQB, breaching,rappeling,surveillance techniques, communication and the use of explosive's, basically they are India's SAS or Delta force, happy with that :)

Moughoun,
Thanks. Just a quick note here. The premier CT force in India today is the NSG.

[moughoun]

Moughoun,
Thanks. Do you have a source or more details on the SCTU? I have never heard of them. Most. if not all , para commandos are also invloved in CT ops. Is there a special unit for CT only? Can you provide more details on this unit and their participation in this event..

Thanks in advance


No problem, SCTU (special counter terrorist unit) of the Para commandos, is around 100 strong, formed in 1979 and is reputed to be Asia's finest HRU,it is based at Sarsawa airbase in uttar predesh, Extremily well trained SCTU personnel are airborne and commando trained before joining, they then develope a wide range of specialist HRU skills including CQB, breaching,rappeling,surveillance techniques, communication and the use of explosive's, basically they are India's SAS or Delta force, happy with that :)

Moughoun,
Thanks. Just a quick note here. The premier CT force in India today is the NSG.

The NSG and the SCTU do 2 different mission's,NSG is Counter terrorisim in it's broadest sense, they are not really a sf unit more of a para-military one while SCTU is the nation's hostage rescue team

[brigadeotg]

Moughoun,
Actually the NSG is the premier CT/HRT unit. All the previous HR operations have been undertaken by them. Akshardham, Srinagar rescue etc etc. There is a team on permanent stand-by at Palam airport with a dedicated IL-76 allotted to them.

[RomanS]

this is great looool
I love those lists.

Accept one little thing. Russian ALFA outperforms any of those teams on the list. The US, Israeli and UK would be a good match.

[sgt.pepper]

SAS and YAMAM are the best among all CT units

[moughoun]

Moughoun,
Actually the NSG is the premier CT/HRT unit. All the previous HR operations have been undertaken by them. Akshardham, Srinagar rescue etc etc. There is a team on permanent stand-by at Palam airport with a dedicated IL-76 allotted to them.

2 different servives, military and para-military, 2 different task's, the SCTUis used if the mission is oversea's

[moughoun]

this is great looool
I love those lists.

Accept one little thing. Russian ALFA outperforms any of those teams on the list. The US, Israeli and UK would be a good match.

That's a pretty broad stroke thare, dismissing all other sf unit's in thae World don't you think :roll:

[RomanS]

this is great looool
I love those lists.

Accept one little thing. Russian ALFA outperforms any of those teams on the list. The US, Israeli and UK would be a good match.

That's a pretty broad stroke thare, dismissing all other sf unit's in thae World don't you think :roll:

I just look at those with experience, and credit for completed missions.

US, Russia, UK, Israel has the best special forces in the world.

all those countries above are at war since the end of WW2. Gaining experience, knowledge, perfecting the weapons, and taking names.

Somehow I can't see Italian Special Forces to be as valuable in experience and knowledge as Russian Alfa or Speznaz GRU.

Or some Kantopolizei Aaragu, Team Argus compared to US Delta or UKs SAS. humorous...

[moughoun]

this is great looool
I love those lists.

Accept one little thing. Russian ALFA outperforms any of those teams on the list. The US, Israeli and UK would be a good match.

That's a pretty broad stroke thare, dismissing all other sf unit's in thae World don't you think :roll:

I just look at those with experience, and credit for completed missions.

US, Russia, UK, Israel has the best special forces in the world.

all those countries above are at war since the end of WW2. Gaining experience, knowledge, perfecting the weapons, and taking names.

Somehow I can't see Italian Special Forces to be as valuable in experience and knowledge as Russian Alfa or Speznaz GRU.

Or some Kantopolizei Aaragu, Team Argus compared to US Delta or UKs SAS. humorous...

No you said ALPHA would outperform that's not the same as experience, and sf don't need to have been in a general war to have experience, and a half assed assault on a Russian theater isn't something to be put in the good op side of the equation

[Apogeumus]

i have a quastion,its ceind of stupid but its interest me.
and i ask whan you anser it plz no patriotism.

who are the five best couner-terror units in the world???

Who won the last CT world cup?

Cobra from Austria, 2nd was NOCS from Italy, 3rd was the ARW from Ireland woot woot woot :D

Question is, how many best CT units haven't take part in this cup...

[dez000]

this is great looool
I love those lists.

Accept one little thing. Russian ALFA outperforms any of those teams on the list. The US, Israeli and UK would be a good match.

That's a pretty broad stroke thare, dismissing all other sf unit's in thae World don't you think :roll:

I just look at those with experience, and credit for completed missions.

US, Russia, UK, Israel has the best special forces in the world.

all those countries above are at war since the end of WW2. Gaining experience, knowledge, perfecting the weapons, and taking names.

Somehow I can't see Italian Special Forces to be as valuable in experience and knowledge as Russian Alfa or Speznaz GRU.

Or some Kantopolizei Aaragu, Team Argus compared to US Delta or UKs SAS. humorous...

Why wouldn't they have valuable experience? Belgian SIE for instance has plenty of experience since they are a police units and are often used in arresting important and dangerous criminals...

Belgian Special-Forces group has lots of experience too, they were present in Somalië... They were protecting the border in Turkey during GW1 etc.

Every country SF of CT unit has plenty of experience, not all missions might be broadcasted on TV or in the newspapers as much as their US or Russian equivalants...

IMO the list is useless without scores or something... And I find it hard to believe that among Western troops their would be a difference in quality, esp. with the joined exercises and similar training etc.

[Ayura]

lol guys. At the end of the day, there practically as good as each other really. The only major differance between them is technology.

My Fave CT unit would have to be the SAS's CT troop. Those guys would give me the ****s if they stormed my room lol!!!

[Knutsen]

Delta, SAS, DEVGRU............ Did anyone doubted about the answers??
In my opinion this debate is nonsense since most CT and SF units are similar and capable of the same things. The difference like in most other things is that the anglo-saxon world is where you can get info, movies and videogames about military operations. Everyone knows SAS (appart from the fact that they are outstanding) because of all the media coverage, and the wars they fight in. For example , nobody talks about french units that have the same or even more experience gained in wars like Algeria, Chad, Ivory Coast....
Like those there are dozens of examples, the portuguese have been fighting for years in Angola and Mozambique, the italians have been searching for war criminals in Bosnia (not only Delta and SAS) ,spanish CT units have been dealing with hostage situations and terrorists for 30 years know.....But it's hard to get info on those things.

If there was some kind of quality difference in CT or SF units, then why in Enduring Freedom are Norwegian HJK soldiers instead of doing all the work americans and brits themselves? Or why did the spanish UOE board a north korean ship carrying 15 scuds in the gulf of aden instead of doing it the navy SEALs (they were around the area too)?
If the supposedly best trust they're not so good partners, i think it means they are not sooooo better than the rest, know what i mean?

Since they all take part in joint exercises and share their experiences you can't say which unit is the best. Simply don't exist.

PermskiiOMON, ALPHA is the best why? Killing 50 terrorist and dozens of hostages. I'm sure italian GIS or NOCS have far more experience dealing succesfully with hostage situations (i mean not killing them). If you've read Haneys book (Ex Delta operator), he says that a CT unit is so exhaustively trained to save the hostages, if youre going in shooting everything that moves then regular infantry can do the job. ;)

[Imshi-Yallah]

Moughoun An Cosantor means the Defender.

[n4292936]

Or why did the spanish UOE board a north korean ship carrying 15 scuds in the gulf of aden instead of doing it the navy SEALs

Later in the year the CT unit of the Australian Commandos (TAG-East) and SASR (TAG-West) took down the North Korean vessel, the Pong Su for trafficking heroin as it was trying to escape from the Navy. Seems like they were the flavour of the year.

[moughoun]

Moughoun An Cosantor means the Defender.

Yes I know! :roll:

[Seraphim]

Jeez let this thread ****ing die, lock it already.

[Mav]

You are all wrong!


It's got to be "DETLA FARCE!!11!11//!!##*&^^!!!1ONE"

Because they use the "s4F4r1L4nD M0d3L 1337 Holster and ultra taktikal sk8bord helmets," not to mention their guns firing at "292619478623fps!!111@@%%@£##1!!!!ONE!!!ONE"
:roll: