Iraqi Freedom disabled tanks

[easyand]

http://www.blimdanet.com/actualidad/hechos/nuevo/images/aav%20down.jpg

http://www.blimdanet.com/actualidad/hechos/nuevo/images/M1A2%20disabled100.jpg

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http://www.blimdanet.com/actualidad/hechos/nuevo/images/M1A2%20disabled1091.jpg

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http://www.blimdanet.com/actualidad/hechos/nuevo/images/M1A2%20disabled1094.jpg

http://www.blimdanet.com/actualidad/hechos/nuevo/images/t72-6.jpg

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[ShotOver]

Yawn, seen them already.
But yeah, alot of them were destroyed by the USAF, after being left behind.

[0#256]

Right. I don't think USAF has destroyed so many own side tanks. rofl

[easyand]

someone can tell me what happened to the M109A6 destroyed in IF?

[Ratamacue]

Right. I don't think USAF has destroyed so many own side tanks. rofl
With the speed that the invasion was advancing, the military couldn't afford to have people sitting way in the back repairing them, so they would destroy them in order to prevent them or their electronics from falling into enemy hands.

[Va_Dinger]

Right. I don't think USAF has destroyed so many own side tanks. rofl
With the speed that the invasion was advancing, the military couldn't afford to have people sitting way in the back repairing them, so they would destroy them in order to prevent them or their electronics from falling into enemy hands.

Do you really believe that story? :lol:

[moughoun]

someone can tell me what happened to the M109A6 destroyed in IF?

I saw that on the news, they were firing at night, they had a breech blow back, they abandoned the vehicle and up she went, very spectacular

[Chuckie]

Right. I don't think USAF has destroyed so many own side tanks. rofl
With the speed that the invasion was advancing, the military couldn't afford to have people sitting way in the back repairing them, so they would destroy them in order to prevent them or their electronics from falling into enemy hands.

Do you really believe that story? :lol:

For the most part yes, I do.. some where either destroyed from the air or rigged by U.S. troops. Yes there are a few photos where they were clearly hit by RPG's, but many were destroyed by the U.S. on purpose.


If that wasn't the case, then wouldn't the casualty count have been higher during that part of the operation?

[Operation Ivy]

Right. I don't think USAF has destroyed so many own side tanks. rofl
With the speed that the invasion was advancing, the military couldn't afford to have people sitting way in the back repairing them, so they would destroy them in order to prevent them or their electronics from falling into enemy hands.

Do you really believe that story? :lol:

whats not to believe :cantbeli:

[ZeroPositive]

sounds like a waste of money...

[American Patriot]

Yes, it is a big waste of money.

[ZeroPositive]

Why hasn't anyone said the joke, 60000 dollars for a toilet 80000 dollars for a door for a government building :D explains why writing off an expensive tank as nothing :)

man it just hurts me to see the USAF take out disabled tanks.... I mean if the tanks were destroyed... which nearly all weren't....

[Michael RVR]

Right. I don't think USAF has destroyed so many own side tanks. rofl
With the speed that the invasion was advancing, the military couldn't afford to have people sitting way in the back repairing them, so they would destroy them in order to prevent them or their electronics from falling into enemy hands.

Do you really believe that story? :lol:

whats not to believe :cantbeli:

Yeah .. Theres actually photo's around of an M1 that was hit by 120mm, 2 mavericks and i think burned with thermite for good measure ;)

[platform389]

Right. I don't think USAF has destroyed so many own side tanks. rofl
With the speed that the invasion was advancing, the military couldn't afford to have people sitting way in the back repairing them, so they would destroy them in order to prevent them or their electronics from falling into enemy hands.

Do you really believe that story? :lol:

He's right. More information at link below. This is a PowerPoint presentation. Click to advance the slides. Has much information about Abrams action in Iraq. Includes photos/information about what was necessary to destroy abandoned tanks.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/2003/abrams-oif-lessonslearned2003.ppt

[LordHalbert]

What happened here?

http://www.blimdanet.com/actualidad/hechos/nuevo/images/M1A2%20disabled104.jpg

No RPG or ATGM could have done that.

It looks like a lot of the tank just melted - look at the wheels?

What could have done that?

[ronin2172]

^ pretty simple...the tank was set on fire....the road wheels have rubber in them and if the fire gets hot enough...they would burn. If u look at the sprocket which is solid metal it just has some smoke damage. Looks like the fire started in the engine compartment and spread. Is this the tank that was lost on thunder run? If i remember correctly she was hit in the engine, a fire broke out and she had to b abandoned.

[aartamen]

I think it is not. It looks like it burned right here, but this is not the same spot. And I remember the other one pretty well.

[Jurgen]

http://www.blimdanet.com/actualidad/hechos/nuevo/images/aav%20down.jpg

Not a tank...

http://www.blimdanet.com/actualidad/hechos/nuevo/images/M1A2%20disabled1094.jpg

Not disabled...
(actually, you can see it beeing pulled by the M88...)

http://www.blimdanet.com/actualidad/hechos/nuevo/images/M1A2%20disabled104.jpg

Not sure, but I remember a story of an Abrams burning out in the lot, there are more pics of this one, not sure were though...

[iflu]

if u want to just stop an abrams, properly shot RPGs even can do it. In fact, there r some difficulties of doing that. One is if u can access to an abrams. if u wear uniforms in the field, I doubt if u would be killed either by M1 or by M2 accompanied. But if u wear anything else, it is hard to say, especially in the urban area. People can fire RPGs from everywhere. So u stop an abrams, but what do u mean disable it? kill all crew inside? Destroy its fire sys? No, it is almost a mission impossible for RPGs. (i think) In fact, I think most abrams were DESTROYED by A10 or other M1s?( am i right?)

[rob]

there is a lot of bs going around about the m1, but remeber that in urban enviroments any tank is extremely vulnerable.

[Hiroshima]

Well, the Abrams is just like any tank, and while top of the line, can be knocked out. What's really neat is that most of the time the troopers can get out alive. Nice Pictures, kinda amazing what our boys lived through.

[Midav]

Well, the Abrams is just like any tank, and while top of the line, can be knocked out. What's really neat is that most of the time the troopers can get out alive. Nice Pictures, kinda amazing what our boys lived through.

Couldn't agree more.

[Dennis G]

I got one...


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/images/tank-canal040410a_usmc_2004414142357.jpg

[Sayeret]

if u want to just stop an abrams, properly shot RPGs even can do it. In fact, there r some difficulties of doing that. One is if u can access to an abrams. if u wear uniforms in the field, I doubt if u would be killed either by M1 or by M2 accompanied. But if u wear anything else, it is hard to say, especially in the urban area. People can fire RPGs from everywhere. So u stop an abrams, but what do u mean disable it? kill all crew inside? Destroy its fire sys? No, it is almost a mission impossible for RPGs. (i think) In fact, I think most abrams were DESTROYED by A10 or other M1s?( am i right?)

I don't think that RPGs would easily destroy any modern tank. I would think that AT-3 SAGGERs would be more of a threat to M1s and M2s but I'm not sure.

[Shadow]

Right. I don't think USAF has destroyed so many own side tanks. rofl
With the speed that the invasion was advancing, the military couldn't afford to have people sitting way in the back repairing them, so they would destroy them in order to prevent them or their electronics from falling into enemy hands.

Do you really believe that story? :lol:

whats not to believe :cantbeli:

Sure the Iraqis were able to build a SUPER TANK out of all destroyed US Tanks. :lol: :cantbeli:

[gbos]

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/565_1089892120_smart20submunmf.jpg

These babes would have done a better job but unfortunately for Sadam he couldn’t afford them. :lol:

[Tengu]

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/565_1089892120_smart20submunmf.jpg

These babes would have done a better job but unfortunately for Sadam he couldn’t afford them. :lol:what is that??

[gbos]

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/565_1089892120_smart20submunmf.jpg

These babes would have done a better job but unfortunately for Sadam he couldn’t afford them. :lol:what is that??

That’s 21 century AT artillery cells. Once reached upon target area they release 2 sub munitions with small parachutes each one having a small radar and an infrared seeker and they start scanning. If they spot a tank they release an explosive shaped KE projectile that hits the ‘roof part’ weak spot of the tank. It's called SmArt DM702. I hope my bad English make sense. :|

[Hiroshima]

And the system to defend against this has been in use for the past decade. Ablative Armor is a wonderful system, meaning that the tank, just short of us discoving a whole new metal alloy, has a better chance at surviving. Course, even an Abram's main gun has a hard time killing an Abrams.

[5jumpchump]

Right. I don't think USAF has destroyed so many own side tanks. rofl
With the speed that the invasion was advancing, the military couldn't afford to have people sitting way in the back repairing them, so they would destroy them in order to prevent them or their electronics from falling into enemy hands.

Do you really believe that story? :lol:

whats not to believe :cantbeli:

Sure the Iraqis were able to build a SUPER TANK out of all destroyed US Tanks. :lol: :cantbeli:

Why is it so hard for you to believe that we destroy our own vehicles to secure the electronics and design features ? It's fairly simple knuckle head . The cost of the Tanks design , witch took millions and millions of dollars and years of development , out weighs the cost of ONE tank , two tanks , 20 tanks . Also the cost of our enemy scrapping a tank and selling parts to other countries can't be put into dollar amounts now can it ? :bash: Carry on .

[gbos]

Ablative Armor will protect a tank from small dispersion HEAT bomblets but not against this. It beats everything currently in use.

From manufacturer brochure:

Targets are engaged in the top attack by an explosively formed heavy metal projectile (EFP) penetrating the armour by its highly kinetic energy. The unmatched performance of the SMArt EFP leads to the destruction of any kind of today's and future armoured vehicles, including special reactive armour.

http://www.rheinmetall-detec.de/index.php?lang=3&fid=2180&query=SMArt

[Jurgen]

I got one...


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/images/tank-canal040410a_usmc_2004414142357.jpg

They recovered this one, allthough it took two M88's and two days of work.... :D

[A Soldier]

I got one...


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/images/tank-canal040410a_usmc_2004414142357.jpg

They recovered this one, allthough it took two M88's and two days of work.... :D

The tank commander had to have been riding that drivers ass for a few days, good thing that the recovery crews got it out ;)

[Operation Ivy]

wasnt really the drivers fault, the farm ground around the area couldnt support the 70ton beast :D