UK: Parents Banned from watching their Kids

[Universal_Soldier]

UK: Parents banned from watching their children in playgrounds... in case they are paedophiles

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/28/article-1223528-06FE1885000005DC-638_468x424.jpg


A council has banned parents from supervising their children in public playgrounds until they have undergone criminal record checks.
Adults have been excluded from two adventure play areas in Watford, apart from a handful of council-vetted 'play rangers' who will assist youngsters, it emerged today.
Parents will be forced to watch their children from outside the perimeter fence.
Watford Borough Council claims it is just following Government guidelines and cannot allow adults to walk around playgrounds 'unchecked'.
But parents are furious that they are all being labelled 'potential paedophiles' and branded the ban 'a joke'.
Mother-of-five Marcella Bergin, 35, said she was disgusted when she heard she would not be allowed to stay in the park with her children.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223528/Parents-banned-supervising-children-playgrounds--case-paedophiles.html?ITO=1490&referrer=yahoo#ixzz0VFjTPrXA

just wow..........

[scttgillies]

I bet its a labour council.....................................

Fookin morons

[cbreedon]

England has turned into a lovely country. Everytime I go back for a visit I am shocked at the new levels of idiocy that have occured.

The thing that I don't understand is that my relatives and friends that live there seem to be resigned to whatever the Gov't says is fine. That there is nothing that can be done but follow the rules, regardless of how stupid they are.

It just angers me to a level that I want to start beating someone or something:bash:

[cbreedon]

I bet its a labour council.....................................

Fookin morons

I think Watford is actually Lib Dem. I was born there. Evidently my parents are paedophiles. I knew it was too good to be true:)

[Evolv5]

Well I mean come on, I bet their is one parent in every 100000 who has paedophilic thoughts. This is completely reasonable.
Kids should be the governments responsibility anyways, not the parents.
It's the government's fault if your kid ****s up in school, so, it should be the government's responsibility to be paedophilic to your child on the playground .... wait what?

Ridiculous.

[Stevey1]

Everytime I go back for a visit I am shocked at the new levels of idiocy that have occured.


Yeah but it's no different in any other Western Country. For goodness sake, fat people are protected by law in San Francisco.Can you imagine the field day the British press would have with a story like that?! The British press just seem to obsess more frequently than foreign papers.


Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if this article, typical of the British tabloid press, is wildly inaccurate. This is the Daily Mail. The paper that has proclaimed that Britain is rubbish, with no redeeming qualities and is doomed every day since its first edition. I'm genuinely surprised that the paper has managed to produce an article without blaming immigrants and 'bogus' asylum seekers, however :-)

[INAT]

England has turned into a lovely country. Everytime I go back for a visit I am shocked at the new levels of idiocy that have occured.

The thing that I don't understand is that my relatives and friends that live there seem to be resigned to whatever the Gov't says is fine. That there is nothing that can be done but follow the rules, regardless of how stupid they are.

It just angers me to a level that I want to start beating someone or something:bash:


Some people follow the law simply because someone made it a law.
To follow a law it should have some moral or public safety benefit.

I would understand this if the UK had some huge pedo epidemic but
to forbid parents to watch their children because they could potentially be
pedos is insane.What is the real reason they are doing this? To have more of the general public under surveillance? The UK government does not even pretend to be open anymore.

[Universal_Soldier]

Yeah but it's no different in any other Western Country. For goodness sake, fat people are protected by law in San Francisco.Can you imagine the field day the British press would have with a story like that?! The British press just seem to obsess more frequently than foreign papers.


Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if this article, typical of the British tabloid press, is wildly inaccurate. This is the Daily Mail. The paper that has proclaimed that Britain is rubbish, with no redeeming qualities and is doomed every day since its first edition.

Dude...you can't talk from both sides of the mouth. first, you said such things are happening elsewhere and then you said the article is inaccurate. AFAIK, this is a first....but you can spoil me with your sources if you 've read about it somewhere else.

I think it's moronic to prevent parents from watching their kids on playground because they maybe pedophiles. How about we don't let anybody on Air Plane because they maybe terrorists.

[Stevey1]

Dude...you can't talk from both sides of the mouth.

I'm not mate. I was responding to a poster who was suggesting that the UK was unique in facing problems to do with political correctness and occasional daft laws etc. Whilst I accept that there are problems with PC and state intrusion in Britain (as elsewhere), the scale and individual cases of these problems have been grossly exaggerated by the British tabloid press in a way that it isn't in other Western countries.

Papers like the Daily Mail are notorious for their daily anti-everything rants and have often been proved wrong. For example, I remember reading that that the Union Jack flag would be banned from prisons so as not to offend Muslim prisoners. That story was a complete falsehood and I've yet to drive past a prison in the UK without a Union flag flying.

[Kap]

They just painted a broad brush over all adults, what the **** is this?

[Lov3ll]

This is the same paper that whines whenever a kid gets abducted why didn't the government do anything etc. pressuring the government to do something then whine when the government does something, the government would save a lot of time and effort if they just made the *** offenders registry public rather than treating everyone as a criminal.

[Andyo]

Its pretty typical behavior for councils.once a person gets a job working for the council they become alienated from general society and become officious ?.
A friend of mine lost a leg and 1 testical in the falklands ,after rehabilitation he got a job with the county council .(computers) has turned into an officious arse well some of the time we his remaining friends have added the prefix DCI to his name .
he even told a blind friend of mine he should do somthing usefull instead of scrounging disability benefit lol.
so if you have a criminal record you cant take your child to a play ground or only if your a pedo

[Macs.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRZo8CHsgp8

[Migs]

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/189/pedobeardisapproval.jpg

[Mu-Meson]

Of course they are all *** offenders. The very fact that they have genetic offspring is evidence of their ****** depravity. You know how these perverts make babies?!? It's disgusting. They should all be shot.

[PUG]

Paedophile until proven normal.

[zapatero]

You mean mom and dad are doing this horrible thing? Yuk!

[lotsoffreetime]

The pedophiles had won once you decided that everyone should be unnecessarily scared of them.

If only al Qaeda picked up the signal...

[tea drinker]

And the councils did such a bang up job taking care of baby P etc

[Wally1967]

UK PR gone way too far!

and Australia is catching up sadly.

[Britishhawk]

UK PR gone way too far!

and Australia is catching up sadly.

Because half the British nation has emigrated to Oz, we bring our PC ways with us :)

[CMNot]

Got to love the Mail; when someone gets raped they want everyone barcoded and chipped, yet are now all of a sudden the Ambassadors of freedom?

Yeah, yeah, suck a ****.

[Kit]

My brain hurts just thinking about this.

How about give up the child to the government, day one, at the hospital, and save the parents the trouble. The government will make fine citizens out of them.

[rgjbloke]

Watford is a Lib-Dem Council and the story isn't true. There are two sites where the Council are providing supervised activities for kid's at specific times where parent's are asked to leave unless they have an agreement with the Council that they can stay.

This is from Watford Council's website.

Statement about Harwoods and Harebreaks Adventure Playground


Contrary to reports in the media, Watford Borough Council has not banned parents from public parks and playgrounds in the town!

http://www.watford.gov.uk/ccm/cms-service/stream/image/?image_id=16810010We have simply reiterated that the fully supervised play sessions we run at our adventure playgrounds - Harebreaks and Harwoods - are for children aged 5 -15 years old, and that parents/carers of children and young people who visit these play sessions are not able to stay on site with their children during play sessions. This reduces any potential risks to children and ensures they are able to play freely.

The adventure playground play sessions are fully supervised and we employ CRB checked staff to run the facilities in the best way they see fit.

This is no different to other fully supervised facilities, like schools, playgroups or nurseries - where adults are not allowed to stay.

Parents and carers are, of course, welcome to bring their children safely into the sites and settle them in, but only aged children aged 5 - 15 year olds are permitted to stay for the sessions .

We are aware that there may be circumstances where there is a need for a parent/carer to stay on site, if this is the case please feel free to contact us to discuss so we can consider your needs before making a final decision.

If parents aren't happy leaving their children - there are lots of other options open to them. In the town, there are 4 community centres, 5 children’s centres, over 40 areas of park and playgrounds, as well as a museum, two libraries... These are also free to attend and open to everyone.

[CMNot]

Well, well, the Daily Hate is full of ****. I never would have believed it.

[Stevey1]

UK PR gone way too far!

and Australia is catching up sadly.

I was surprised when I visited Oz and NZ how PC they actually are.

[Stevey1]

Watford is a Lib-Dem Council and the story isn't true. There are two sites where the Council are providing supervised activities for kid's at specific times where parent's are asked to leave unless they have an agreement with the Council that they can stay.

Nice one. I really do hate the British press sometimes. I reckon the Mail tomorrow will mention this reality in a brief paragraph on page 34 like they (and the Express) usually do after their latest inaccurate scare stories have outraged everyone :-)

[Flavius22]

state knows best

[Flagg]

It takes a rather large and liberal village to raise a disfunctionally fcuked up child.

[Arnie100]

"play rangers"!? rofl WTF nonsense is THAT!?

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

So a local council decides to run a service in which parents can drop off their kids for a few hours. And the media links this to political correctness.

Ok

[Bitogno]

Parents have been banned from watching their own children enjoy two council-run adventure play areas because they have not been vetted by police.
Mums and dads have been told they will no longer be welcome in two play areas supervised by Watford (http://www.watford.gov.uk/ccm/portal/) Borough Council (http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/search/?search=Borough+Council) staff, from Monday (November 2).
The change in policy, at the Harwoods and Harebreaks recreation grounds, will see adults excluded from the fenced off parks, with children cared for exclusively by qualified and police vetted council staff, known as play rangers.
Mayor Dorothy Thornhill (http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/search/?search=Mayor+Dorothy+Thornhill) argued the council is merely enforcing Government policy at the play areas, in Vicarage Road (http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/search/?search=Vicarage+Road) and Leggatts Way respectively.
She said: “Sadly, in today's climate, you can’t have adults walking around unchecked in a children’s playground.”
Some parents, however, have lambasted the “ridiculous” and "crazy" decision which they say breaches their personal freedoms.
Mum-of-eight Jennifer Abbasi said: “I have been using the Harwoods playground for 18 years. I have every faith in the staff but there are not enough [three] on duty during a session.
“It is a sad day when parents cannot be involved with the enjoyment of their children and share valuable play time when it may be the only quality time spent together.”
Grandmother Mo Mills branded the decision as “crazy”. She said: “What am I supposed to do when I take my five-year-old granddaughter down there? Am I supposed to drop her off and say: ‘There you go, I’ll pick you up later?’. It’s crazy.”
Rebekah Makinson, mum-of-three, added: “We have used Harwoods since I was a child and my mother stayed with me. It has always had a fantastic community atmosphere. Even with the excellent staff employed it is ridiculous to assume that three staff members can safeguard the high volume of children that currently use the playground.
“Banning parents from an open access playground, I feel, is a breech of our personal freedom.
“I hope the council will overturn this decision otherwise we will not be visiting the site again.” Mayor Thornhill added: “The playgrounds are not a meeting place for adults. We have reviewed our procedures, so although previously some parents have stayed with their children at the discretion of our play-workers, this is not something we can continue to do.
“There are other places in the town for parents with small children to go.”
http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/4705034.Parents_banned_from_council_play_areas/

Anti-paedophile regulations become crazy in England. :cantbeli:

[rgjbloke]

It's a re-post and....it's not true.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=167770

Watford is a Lib-Dem Council and the story isn't true. There are two sites where the Council are providing supervised activities for kid's at specific times where parent's are asked to leave unless they have an agreement with the Council that they can stay.

This is from Watford Council's website.

Statement about Harwoods and Harebreaks Adventure Playground


Contrary to reports in the media, Watford Borough Council has not banned parents from public parks and playgrounds in the town!

http://www.watford.gov.uk/ccm/cms-service/stream/image/?image_id=16810010We have simply reiterated that the fully supervised play sessions we run at our adventure playgrounds - Harebreaks and Harwoods - are for children aged 5 -15 years old, and that parents/carers of children and young people who visit these play sessions are not able to stay on site with their children during play sessions. This reduces any potential risks to children and ensures they are able to play freely.

The adventure playground play sessions are fully supervised and we employ CRB checked staff to run the facilities in the best way they see fit.

This is no different to other fully supervised facilities, like schools, playgroups or nurseries - where adults are not allowed to stay.

Parents and carers are, of course, welcome to bring their children safely into the sites and settle them in, but only aged children aged 5 - 15 year olds are permitted to stay for the sessions .

We are aware that there may be circumstances where there is a need for a parent/carer to stay on site, if this is the case please feel free to contact us to discuss so we can consider your needs before making a final decision.

If parents aren't happy leaving their children - there are lots of other options open to them. In the town, there are 4 community centres, 5 children’s centres, over 40 areas of park and playgrounds, as well as a museum, two libraries... These are also free to attend and open to everyone.
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[Bitogno]

My bad for the repost. Living in England I can say that it is in the press of this morning.

[Dan2004]

Row over parents playground ban


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45845000/jpg/_45845674_001214916-1.jpg The council said parents were distracting staff at the playground

A council in Hertfordshire has banned parents from two council-run adventure playgrounds because they have not been Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) checked. Watford Borough Council wrote to parents and carers saying adults without a CRB check would have to be supervised by vetted playworkers.
The letter said it had no option but to ban all adults including parents and carers from the two sites.
It said this was no different to other groups like brownies and cubs.
'Sick joke'
The Conservative prospective parliamentary candidate for Watford said the decision was "ludicrous".
Richard Harrington said: "The council has made the decision that parents are no longer allowed to play with their children in the play areas and that children will be cared for by 'qualified and police vetted play rangers'.
"It's a sick joke. This is a case of creating problems where there are none."
The council said the restriction only applies to its Harwoods and Harebreaks adventure playgrounds.
'Risky and challenging'
The elected mayor of Watford Dorothy Thornhill said the authority has faced criticism from a dozen or so parents.
She added: "The letter from a senior community playworker to parents was a bit like a sledgehammer to crack a nut but councils are in the front line and vilified if they don't take these sorts of measures."
Ms Thornhill said of the two adventure playgrounds where the parents had been asked to leave: "This is not a playground we're talking about but a unique gated and fenced facility where quite risky and challenging activities take place."
She said the Harebreaks playground had never allowed adults to stay and the Harwood site had had a core of half a dozen parents who insisted on staying with their children.
It had distracted staff from adequately supervising the children leading to a series of incidents, Ms Thornhill said.
A council statement said: "We are aware that there may be circumstances where there is a need for a parent or carer to stay on site.
"If parents aren't happy leaving their children - there are lots of other options open to them."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/beds/bucks/herts/8331446.stm

/facepalm. :roll:

[Arnie100]

Same story?:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=167770