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Ordie
10-29-2009, 04:26 PM
More Mexicans turn to the lynch mob as crime spirals out of control.

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By [URL="http://www.globalpost.com/bio/ioan-grillo"]Ioan Grillo (http://www.globalpost.com/bio/ioan-grillo) - GlobalPost Published: October 28, 2009 06:39 ET


MEXICO CITY, Mexico — The five teenage boys slump against the wall of a dark house and eye the camcorder nervously. Suddenly, a fist enters the frame smacking one of the boys in the face. Then the barrel of an automatic rifle appears and the teenagers’ expressions turn to terror.
“Why are you here?” shouts a voice.
“For robbing,” one of the boys mumbles.
“You see. You were little rats and now look at you,” replies the interrogator.
The torture video of the five alleged house burglars was posted on the internet last week. It is the latest sign of brutal vigilante justice spreading across Mexico.
As kidnappings, muggings and car jackings spiral out of control, and the authorities appear increasingly impotent, shadowy groups have been advocating justice by the sword.
In other recent cases, alleged kidnappers and car thieves have been abducted and murdered and had their corpses dumped in public places along with threatening notes.
There are also rising cases of mobs lynching alleged thieves and leaving them beaten, naked and tied up.
“The government is failing to provide security and people are turning to some brutal alternatives,” said Rossana Reguillo, who studies crime and violence at the Jesuit University of Guadalajara. “This is not something that has always been around in Mexico. It is a new phenomenon that has been growing since 2000.”
In the latest case, the five teenagers were abducted after they allegedly robbed a house in the town of Tepic in the Pacific state of Nayarit.
The boys — all students of a local high school — were taken to an abandoned building where they had their heads shaved and then were beaten by fists and rifle butts and threatened at gun point, as shown on the video. One of the torturers is heard on the film saying he is the man whose house was robbed.
The teenagers were also forced to perform ****** acts — including kissing each other in front of the camera — as a humiliation. The gunmen are heard threatening to cut their hands off unless they comply.
After being held all night the students were dumped naked on the street and then attended at hospital for injuries including broken ribs.
The torture film was posted on YouTube under the title “Little Rats of Tepic.” YouTube’s monitors quickly removed it from the site, flagging it as unsuitable content.
Following an outcry over the film, police on Monday arrested four building workers for the torture.
However, one of the boys said they had first been arrested by state police and it was the officers themselves who turned them to the vigilantes. The Nayarit police chief denies the charge, saying officers did not question the boys until after they had been tortured.
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The incident sparked disgust and condemnation from many.
“Opening the door to justice by your own hand is an enormous step back to a state of barbarism and lack of culture,” said Huicot Rivas, the president of Nayarit’s Human Rights Commission. “In a democratic state, crime can never be used to combat crime.”
However, others cheered on the vigilantes for trying to clean up the streets.
“For me the men who made this video are heroes. I sincerely admire them,” wrote a reader on the website of Mexican newspaper El Universal. “In Mexico, we need death squads to hunt and exterminate rats and kidnappers without further expense to society and the without human rights people getting in the way.”
“I recognize that this is not the correct way to administer justice but I can’t deny that it makes me happy that this type of thing happens,” wrote another reader.
Such feelings reflect desperation among many in Mexico about the lack of security. Amid a drug war that has left thousands dead, rates of anti-social crimes such as kidnapping and carjacking have risen to become among the worst in the world. At the same time, conviction rates for these relatively minor crimes are as low as 5 percent.
Many readers of newspapers have also written in to commend shadowy vigilante groups that have publicly announced their appearance in crime-plagued communities.
One such group called the Popular Anti-Drugs Army materialized among farming towns in the southern state of Guerrero.
Displaying blankets with written messages on bridges and buildings, the group claimed to be made up of family men who had come together to force drug dealers off the street.
“We invite the people to join our struggle and defend our children who are the future of Mexico,” it said on one of the blankets.
The group has been linked to several killings, including the decapitation of an alleged drug dealer in December.
Following stories of that slaying, readers hailed the efforts in some Mexican media outlets.
“My sincerest congratulations to these brave men with their courage and determination,” wrote a reader of Mexican newspaper Milenio. “God help them with their noble cause.”
Investigators suspect that organized-crime groups themselves could be behind many of the vigilantes. While the gangsters traffic drugs to the United States, some are against selling them in their own communities and are opposed to criminals such as muggers and kidnappers.
A similar situation emerged in Colombia in the 1990s, when paramilitary groups both trafficked drugs and enforced the law against petty crooks in the fiefdoms they controlled.
The investigator Reguillo says that while it may not get as bad as Colombia, the vigilantism does pose a real threat to the Mexican state.
“When armed groups administer their own justice, this represents an alternate power,” she said. “This a major problem for democracy in Mexico.”


Source:http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/mexico/091027/vigilantes-justice-crime

chauncy republicans
10-29-2009, 07:03 PM
The vigilante groups are not a threat to Mexican freedom, but rather the drug lords who started this mess in the first place. What else are the law abiding citizens supposed to do if LE can't provide sucurity for them, roll over on their backs?

wicked_hind
10-29-2009, 09:39 PM
If it keeps up like this, I'm sure the narcos are going to have one more thing to worry about, besides the Army and the Federales. As for those thieves.....serves them right. That's how thieves ought to be treated.

Smitty_Damitty
10-29-2009, 11:51 PM
“I recognize that this is not the correct way to administer justice but I can’t deny that it makes me happy that this type of thing happens,” wrote another reader. Can't say that I necessarily disagree with him.

BAJACAL
10-30-2009, 12:08 AM
I saw that video.. believe me they learned their lesson.

I can't think of a name
10-30-2009, 12:11 AM
These "Human Right's" types (Marxist) are not part of the solution.

When the government cannot provide security for the people it is natural for security to become privatized and localized.

If the government could do its job then these groups would cease to exist.

Dragunov
10-30-2009, 12:19 AM
These "Human Right's" types (Marxist) are not part of the solution.

When the government cannot provide security for the people it is natural for security to become privatized and localized.

If the government could do its job then these groups would cease to exist.

They are more likely to be narcos abusing of their power. This article is pure bull****, it's part of the current anti- President Calderon propaganda by the other parties.

wicked_hind
10-30-2009, 12:23 AM
These "Human Right's" types (Marxist) are not part of the solution.

When the government cannot provide security for the people it is natural for security to become privatized and localized.

If the government could do its job then these groups would cease to exist.

Perhaps further incidents such as this one will put a little pressure on local government and law enforcement officials to get better results from the officers that, in the eyes of the public, are not doing their job.


@ Dragunov....Just read your reply. That wouldn't surprise me if that is the case.

gaijinsamurai
10-30-2009, 12:51 AM
The vigilante groups are not a threat to Mexican freedom, but rather the drug lords who started this mess in the first place. What else are the law abiding citizens supposed to do if LE can't provide sucurity for them, roll over on their backs?

x2. If people had faith in their government and law enforcement agencies, they wouldn't resort to vigilanteism.

wigon
10-30-2009, 02:58 AM
These people are freedom fighters and will wipe out all these filth just like the private security guards in Brazil who kill off good for nothing street children. They're a bunch of worthless human scum. Don't let the bright puppy eyes and youth fool you. They're all evil to the core and MUST BE DESTROYED as BRUTALLY AND VIOLENTLY AS POSSIBLE!!!!!! DESTROY EVIL AT ITS ROOT BEFORE IT GROWS INTO ADULTHOOD!!!!!!

(yes I'm being sarcastic)...but sadly some here believe in that.

Wigon

wilhelm
10-30-2009, 06:25 AM
These people are freedom fighters and will wipe out all these filth just like the private security guards in Brazil who kill off good for nothing street children. They're a bunch of worthless human scum. Don't let the bright puppy eyes and youth fool you. They're all evil to the core and MUST BE DESTROYED as BRUTALLY AND VIOLENTLY AS POSSIBLE!!!!!! DESTROY EVIL AT ITS ROOT BEFORE IT GROWS INTO ADULTHOOD!!!!!!

(yes I'm being sarcastic)...but sadly some here believe in that.

Wigon

So you're saying that they must just accept the crime and do nothing about it? If the police couldn't be bothered they should meekly let the criminals do whatever they want?

2 things are immediately obvious: You don't have a family of your own, and you have no idea what you are talking about.

Clear_blues
10-30-2009, 10:15 AM
push people hard enough, and they'll eventually push back

tea drinker
10-30-2009, 02:46 PM
The vigilante groups are not a threat to Mexican freedom, but rather the drug lords who started this mess in the first place. What else are the law abiding citizens supposed to do if LE can't provide sucurity for them, roll over on their backs?

When conventional methods fail... people have to do something. It's normal people find another way, and I support them.

Mastermind
10-30-2009, 03:12 PM
Hahha...Disgusting and beautiful at the same time...I just love it when Dads take care of business.

Sadly, there will be retaliations...there always are and then it devolves into a street fight....but, my money is on the Dads....they seem to know what and who to do and they are apparently willing to step up to the consequences. I do not pity the "kids". LEOS have their hands tied by the courts...and some times, there is a necessity that the people take action to do what the LEOS simply can not do. My guess is, the LEOS are secretly happy about this....and that crime in this particular area has taken a dramatic decline.

chintin
10-30-2009, 06:53 PM
all of this happened in the city i live in...