View Full Version : Planned Parenthood Director Leaves, Has Change of Heart
seraosha
11-03-2009, 10:36 AM
Planned Parenthood has been a part of Abby Johnson's life for the past eight years; that is until last month, when Abby resigned. Johnson said she realized she wanted to leave, after watching an ultrasound of an abortion procedure.
"I just thought I can't do this anymore, and it was just like a flash that hit me and I thought that's it," said Jonhson.
She handed in her resignation October 6. Johnson worked as the Bryan Planned Parenthood Director for two years.
According to Johnson, the non-profit was struggling under the weight of a tough economy, and changing it's business model from one that pushed prevention, to one that focused on abortion.
"It seemed like maybe that's not what a lot of people were believing any more because that's not where the money was. The money wasn't in family planning, the money wasn't in prevention, the money was in abortion and so I had a problem with that," said Johnson.
Johnson said she was told to bring in more women who wanted abortions, something the Episcopalian church goer recently became convicted about.
"I feel so pure in heart (since leaving). I don't have this guilt, I don't have this burden on me anymore that's how I know this conversion was a spiritual conversion."
Johnson now supports the Coalition For Life, the pro-life group with a building down the street from Planned Parenthood. Coalition volunteers can regularly be seen praying on the sidewalk in front of Planned Parenthood. Johnson has been meeting with the coalition's executive director, Shawn Carney, and has prayed with volunteers outside Planned Parenthood.
On Friday both Johnson and the Coalition For Life were issued temporary restraining orders filed by Planned Parenthood.
Rochelle Tafolla, a Planned Parenthood spokesperson issued the following statement: "We regret being forced to turn to the courts to protect the safety and confidentiality of our clients and staff, however, in this instance it is absolutely necessary."
The temporary restraining order contends that Planned Parenthood would be irreparably harmed by the disclosure of certain information, but does not bar Johnson or Coalition For Life volunteers from the premises.
As of Sunday evening, neither Johnson nor Carney had seen the complaint filed against them that prompted the restraining order.
A hearing about the order has been set for November 10.
http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/68441827.html
Looking forward to hearing more about this...it's akin to an RJ Reynolds exec quitting because he doesn't want to participate in giving people cancer.
Martial
11-03-2009, 10:39 AM
Wow. I missed this news and I live in Bryan/College Station! I drive by Planned Parenthood nearly everyday. There has been a constant vigil outside its gates for years.
lotsoffreetime
11-03-2009, 12:52 PM
Does it mean she has been working on family planning/abortion for years without ever seen the video? I thought you really need to see all of that and made up your mind before working on such a job. :cantbeli:
Martial
11-03-2009, 01:22 PM
Does it mean she has been working on family planning/abortion for years without ever seen the video? I thought you really need to see all of that and made up your mind before working on such a job. :cantbeli:
Why? The government says it's a perfectly OK medical procedure, right? :-(
California Joe
11-03-2009, 02:42 PM
Linda Lovelace became an anti **** crusader after doing Deep Throat. She's still a cocksucker.
ronnieraygun
11-03-2009, 02:45 PM
Linda Lovelace became an anti **** crusader after doing Deep Throat. She's still a cocksucker.
I was going to make fun of all of the oncoming smug posts but I'll just read this instead.
seraosha
11-03-2009, 03:00 PM
Linda Lovelace became an anti **** crusader after doing Deep Throat. She's still a cocksucker.
Really man?
I know starting off with a funny has a tendancy to disarm a potentially flame-o-rific thread, but was that the best you could come up with?
USMCRTop
11-03-2009, 03:41 PM
Linda Lovelace became an anti **** crusader after doing Deep Throat. She's still a cocksucker.
Bad news for you--shes dead--she wasn't really anti ****- she was anti-exploitation of women for money
Skutatos
11-03-2009, 03:46 PM
Its murder of a human being, plain and simple. If a pregnant woman is killed it is considered as such. But when you are stupid slut its forgiveable.
California Joe
11-03-2009, 03:47 PM
OK. It's like Johnny Damon playing for the Yankees...What the f*ck was she doing for 8 years if she didn't realize that Planned Parenthood offers the legal option of abortion? Everyone has a right to change their minds. She changed hers. Good for her. Whatever helps her sleep at night. It is America. But if she was going to change vocations why not get away from the whole issue for a while. Become the CEO of a widget factory. Clear your head, gain some perspective.
California Joe
11-03-2009, 03:50 PM
Bad news for you--shes dead--she wasn't really anti ****- she was anti-exploitation of women for money
Awwww my bad.
Its murder of a human being, plain and simple. If a pregnant woman is killed it is considered as such. But when you are stupid slut its forgiveable.
Nice generalization there pal. At least mine was meant sarcatically.
ronnieraygun
11-03-2009, 04:15 PM
Yes, I do have a right to judge people when they bitch moan and groan about the 'murder' of animals and the killing of trees
Apropos of what, exactly?
and then are perfectly ok with scrambling a human fetus because some girl couldn't keep her pants on.
What were you already told about generalizing?
Its a big ****ing tragedy when someone has a miscarriage(my mother had one in a late stage when pregnant with what have been my sister so **** yourself) but not when they get an abortion. Im ok with abortion in cases of rape and when the mother's life is threatened.
That's cool that you stick up for your Mom, but you still don't have a ******.
Sarig
11-03-2009, 04:25 PM
I think the real shame here is thatthe organisation forced to have abortions as their main income. These things should not have anything to do with money.
Ordie
11-03-2009, 04:26 PM
The anti-abortion groups would be more effective if they make abortion irrelevant through education, promoting contraception, moring after pills, and adoptions while respecting individual freedom and the law.
Overall goal is to close clinics by reducing demand without the change of policy.
Skutatos
11-03-2009, 08:20 PM
The anti-abortion groups would be more effective if they make abortion irrelevant through education, promoting contraception, moring after pills, and adoptions while respecting individual freedom and the law.
Overall goal is to close clinics by reducing demand without the change of policy.
First I would like to apologize for my earlier behaviour and stupidity. Im having a very stressful week, but that is no excuse.
I agree with ordie here. I do not hate people who have abortions, I do not think they are murderers. I do, however, believe it is the killing of a human being and that human beings have intrinsic(not religious) value. Education is by far the best solution. Abortion is here to stay, I just want people to be fully informed before making the descision.
We need to get rid of abstinence only education and focus on the whole picture. Safe ***, the difference in the emotional and chemical make up of men and women, preventing pregnancy etc. As it is, they get a class about how *** is evil, then they get shown some horrific photographs. That is rediculous.
SoliDeoGloria
11-03-2009, 08:46 PM
somethings incredibly illogical about this whole i hate you because you (possibly) "hate" other people and want to take away their freedom to choose, in this thread.
budgie
11-03-2009, 08:58 PM
OK. It's like Johnny Damon playing for the Yankees...What the f*ck was she doing for 8 years if she didn't realize that Planned Parenthood offers the legal option of abortion? Everyone has a right to change their minds. She changed hers. Good for her. Whatever helps her sleep at night. It is America. But if she was going to change vocations why not get away from the whole issue for a while. Become the CEO of a widget factory. Clear your head, gain some perspective.
Yup and that's really all there is to it. One individual is not so sure about her convictions anymore. It's a deeply personal/moral issue after all. Free country and all. Obama promised change, lol...
eskachig
11-03-2009, 09:30 PM
Its murder of a human being, plain and simple. This is not plain and simple at all, and is at the heart of abortion debate. What makes a person? Human DNA? Rational thought? Feelings? Discounting the concept of the soul created at conception deal, which is obviously unscientific and not objective, we have to draw a line somewhere on what is a person and what is not. I, personally, am comfortable with the end of the second trimester being that line, I also understand if others are not.
Yes, I do have a right to judge people when they bitch moan and groan about the 'murder' of animals and the killing of trees and then are perfectly ok with scrambling a human fetus because some girl couldn't keep her pants on. Wanting to protect the environment has nothing to do with the feelings of trees, it's about sustainable living for us humans. I see environmentalism as simply being responsible about your property, sort of like reading the manual and taking your car in for an oil change, not a morality issue outside of the fact that humanity owns the earth together so sharing is expected. The people complaining about the murder of trees are so on the margin they don't matter. As someone who is concerned with the environment and doesn't have a big problem with destroying a fetus, I see no hypocrisy.
Its a big ****ing tragedy when someone has a miscarriage(my mother had one in a late stage when pregnant with what have been my sister so **** yourself) but not when they get an abortion. Miscarriage is a personal tragedy, yes. So? Is it really hard to understand that it is only a tragedy in view of the people who are expecting and are looking forward to the baby? Miscarriage of an unwanted baby, on the other hand, is often viewed as a blessing, not a tragedy.
Im ok with abortion in cases of rape and when the mother's life is threatened. Well I'm glad the issue isn't up to you alone then.
Its a ****ing shame that your mother didn't miscarry you, and to be honest if your parents raised you with this much hate. I will celebrate the miscarriage of your sister as a blessing.
This is beyond retarded.
Sootan
11-03-2009, 10:12 PM
Its a ****ing shame that your mother didn't miscarry you, and to be honest if your parents raised you with this much hate. I will celebrate the miscarriage of your sister as a blessing.
Dude, that was uncalled for. Really.
Skutatos
11-03-2009, 10:23 PM
This is not plain and simple at all, and is at the heart of abortion debate. What makes a person? Human DNA? Rational thought? Feelings? Discounting the concept of the soul created at conception deal, which is obviously unscientific and not objective, we have to draw a line somewhere on what is a person and what is not. I, personally, am comfortable with the end of the second trimester being that line, I also understand if others are not.
Wanting to protect the environment has nothing to do with the feelings of trees, it's about sustainable living for us humans. I see environmentalism as simply being responsible about your property, sort of like reading the manual and taking your car in for an oil change, not a morality issue outside of the fact that humanity owns the earth together so sharing is expected. The people complaining about the murder of trees are so on the margin they don't matter. As someone who is concerned with the environment and doesn't have a big problem with destroying a fetus, I see no hypocrisy.
Miscarriage is a personal tragedy, yes. So? Is it really hard to understand that it is only a tragedy in view of the people who are expecting and are looking forward to the baby? Miscarriage of an unwanted baby, on the other hand, is often viewed as a blessing, not a tragedy.
Well I'm glad the issue isn't up to you alone then.
This is beyond retarded.
Yup, your criticism is pretty much right. Also, 2nd trimester is reasonable, as by the end of that time it is distinct from other mammals.
Unfortunately my views are clouded by what was a very traumatizing experience for me when at a young age and so I will attempt to refrain from adding my opinion on the morality of the subject in the future.
JJPHATX
11-03-2009, 11:03 PM
Yes, I do have a right to judge people when they bitch moan and groan about the 'murder' of animals and the killing of trees and then are perfectly ok with scrambling a human fetus because some girl couldn't keep her pants on. Its a big ****ing tragedy when someone has a miscarriage(my mother had one in a late stage when pregnant with what have been my sister so **** yourself) but not when they get an abortion. Im ok with abortion in cases of rape and when the mother's life is threatened.
I am not coming from a religious point of view. I don't think I have stepped foot in a church in at least 10 years now.
And boohoo, you don't like me, big ****ing deal.
Not to feed the flame bait and lets put religion and things of that sort aside, but there are wider economic and security implications here.
People who have kids and aren't ready yet to have kids, tend to be poor parents, there kids, in turn tend to grow up to be poor adults, leading crime and poverty statistics to expand in areas where this is common.
Many illegal immigrants don't believe in abortion, yet have very large families many of whom they cant afford to feed, well if they had abortions there would be less strain on our already overstretched system.
Now people need to use contraceptives and condoms, its easy to say put your pants on, but you forgot were genetically programmed to procreate starting when we hit puberty at what now is considered a young age (historically not) until around menopause.
At the same time, the religious groups who are all for abstinence want *** ed - which teaches children how to use condoms taken out of schools, and dont teach anything other than dont have *** at home. Well kids are going to keep having ***, despite their parents saying just don't do it, they don't know to use condoms and birth control. It's not enough to say condoms and birth control are immoral when we are trying to keep abortions and early births down.
Curtis E. Bear
11-04-2009, 12:57 AM
its a ****ing shame that your mother didn't miscarry you, and to be honest if your parents raised you with this much hate. I will celebrate the miscarriage of your sister as a blessing.
damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!
XShipRider
11-04-2009, 07:27 AM
Why is it the gal's reproductive organs when decision time comes for abortion but the guy's responsibility if she decides to give birth? Quandary defined.
The old adage "it takes two to tango" comes to mind. Unfortunately our society only holds the female responsible if she aborts and the male, when you can find him, if she carries to term. Men, sometimes very young men, too need to be held accountable in all cases.
As for Madame Director, if she's living her conscience then bully for her. We should all live our conscience rather than someone else's.
Personally, I would hope my son or daughter would consult me and my wife before making any such decision. Consulting a third party, sometimes with other agendas or motivations, simply doesn't make sense. Hopefully we've instilled enough principle and, yes I'm going to say it, morality in their lives to make sound decisions. Ultimately we only offer advice and counsel as the decision, as well as the implications, rests with them.
Lemonz
11-04-2009, 07:49 AM
Its murder of a human being, plain and simple. If a pregnant woman is killed it is considered as such. But when you are stupid slut its forgiveable.
Such foolish words could only be spouted by a christian white American male.
Yes all women that get an abortion are sluts.....:bash:
brainplay
11-04-2009, 09:06 AM
People who have kids and aren't ready yet to have kids, tend to be poor parents, there kids, in turn tend to grow up to be poor adults, leading crime and poverty statistics to expand in areas where this is common.
If they are not ready to have kids then they should give the kids up for adoption.
Still saddened that there are not hard limits on when the fetus is considered a human and when its just biomass. A court ruling on this would end some of the debate.
Behan
11-04-2009, 09:16 AM
Just so I'm clear on this, if you find abortion at all offensive, then:
1. You must be white, Chirstian, American, and male (per Lemonz).
2. You and your siblings deserve to die (per Albatross).
Roger.
seraosha
11-04-2009, 09:23 AM
Its a ****ing shame that your mother didn't miscarry you, and to be honest if your parents raised you with this much hate. I will celebrate the miscarriage of your sister as a blessing.
I've reported you on this post.
This is beyond the pale in regards to personal attacks...and then to say you celebrate the miscarriage of someones sister?
You have serious issues man, get help.
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