DC Sniper Set For Execution [Archive]

gaijinsamurai

11-09-2009, 05:04 PM

Supreme Court won't stop sniper execution
John Allen Muhammad to be put to death on Tuesday in Virginia
The Associated Press
updated 11:28 a.m. PT, Mon., Nov . 9, 2009
RICHMOND, Va. - The U.S. Supreme Court has refused to block Tuesday's scheduled execution of sniper mastermind John Allen Muhammad.

The Court did not comment Monday on why it refused to consider his appeal.

Muhammad is scheduled to die by injection at a Virginia prison for the slaying of Dean Harold Meyers at a gas station during a three-week spree in 2002 across Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C.

Muhammad and his teenage accomplice, Lee Boyd Malvo, were also suspected of fatal shootings in other states, including Louisiana, Alabama and Arizona. Malvo is serving a life sentence.

Muhammad still has a clemency petition before Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine.

Muhammad's attorney, Jonathan Sheldon, says "Virginia will execute a severely mentally ill man who also suffered from Gulf War Syndrome the day before Veterans Day."

More on: John Allen Muhammad

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URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33795687/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

REST IN PIECES!!!

2495

11-09-2009, 05:07 PM

Muhammad's attorney, Jonathan Sheldon, says "Virginia will execute a severely mentally ill man who also suffered from Gulf War Syndrome the day before Veterans Day."

Send the bastard to hell on the back of a chemical cocktail. Screw clemency - needle, drugs, a fcuk you to his face and a dirt nap.

Skutatos

11-09-2009, 05:16 PM

Good riddance to this piece of ****.

wicked_hind

11-09-2009, 05:33 PM

Works for me. One less oxygen thief to worry about. Next on the list is Major Nidal Hasan.

seraosha

11-09-2009, 05:38 PM

Muhammad's attorney, Jonathan Sheldon, says "Virginia will execute a severely mentally ill man who also suffered from Gulf War Syndrome the day before Veterans Day."

That ought to be on a t-shirt.

2495

11-09-2009, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by gaijinsamurai http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4545190#post4545190)
Muhammad's attorney, Jonathan Sheldon, says "Virginia will execute a severely mentally ill man who also suffered from Gulf War Syndrome the day before Veterans Day."

That ought to be on a t-shirt.

With 'Good fcuking riddance' on the back.

Sashko

11-09-2009, 05:40 PM

Looks like Muhammad does not have the balls to face his own music.

gaijinsamurai

11-09-2009, 05:41 PM

I'm sure Gulf War Syndrome exists, but most people I've known of who have claimed to be suffering from it were full of sh!t.

Clockwinder

11-09-2009, 05:47 PM

Muhammad's attorney, Jonathan Sheldon, says "Virginia will execute a severely mentally ill man who also suffered from Gulf War Syndrome the day before Veterans Day."

What a crock of sh1t!! Fry the a$$hole. He is a disgrace to the uniform he once wore.

Mastermind

11-09-2009, 05:48 PM

Well, I'm buying some popcorn, some Jr. Mints and a tall coke...gonna set by the 'puter and wait for the headline on Drudge that this POS is gone back to the factory for recycling. Celebration time.....

pascalywood

11-09-2009, 05:51 PM

http://www.youtube.com/v/rY0WxgSXdEE

2495

11-09-2009, 05:54 PM

oldsoak

11-09-2009, 06:04 PM

Theres a lot of vets suffering with the mental fall out of what they were subjected to, and I dont recall any of them going to the lengths this guy did to randomly target individuals and conceal himself. The most badly affected vets often tragically turn a weapon on themselves, not on some passer by. He planned with malice, and he got caught, and it was way beyond a shadow of reasonable doubt. Only sympathy I have is for those whose lives he wrecked and for those he knew who have to deal with the realisation that he's a murderer. No innocent going down here. If I had my way, Malvo would be going with him. I cant imagine how he thought what was being done was not murder.

Euroamerican

11-09-2009, 06:07 PM

Die Motherf99ker. Too bad it will be relatively painless.

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Listed in chronological order, these are the names of the victims who were murdered or wounded in the Beltway sniper attacks.

James Martin 55 Deceased October 2, 2002, 6:04 PM Wheaton, Maryland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheaton,_Maryland)
James Buchanan 39 Deceased October 3, 2002, 7:41 AMRockville, Maryland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockville,_Maryland)
Premkumar Walekar 54 Deceased October 3, 2002, 8:12 AMAspen Hill, Maryland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspen_Hill,_Maryland)
Sarah Ramos 34 Deceased October 3, 2002, 8:37 AMSilver Spring, Maryland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Spring,_Maryland)
Lori Ann Lewis-Rivera 25 Deceased October 3, 2002, 9:58 AMKensington, Maryland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington,_Maryland)
Pascal Charlot 72 Deceased October 3, 2002, 9:20 PMWashington, D.C. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.)
Caroline Seawell 43 Living October 4, 2002, 2:30 PMFredericksburg, Virginia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredericksburg,_Virginia)
Iran Brown 13 Living October 7, 2002, 8:09 AMBowie, Maryland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowie,_Maryland)
Dean Harold Meyers 53 DeceasedOctober 9, 2002, 8:18 PMManassas, Virginia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manassas,_Virginia)
Kenneth Bridges 53 Deceased October 11, 2002, 9:40 AMFredericksburg, Virginia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredericksburg,_Virginia)
Linda Franklin 47 Deceased October 14, 2002, 9:19 PMFalls Church, Virginia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falls_Church,_Virginia)
Jeffrey Hopper 37 Living October 19, 2002, 8:00 PMAshland, Virginia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashland,_Virginia)
Conrad Johnson 35 Deceased October 22, 2002, 5:55 AMAspen Hill, Maryland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspen_Hill,_Maryland)

These victims have also been linked to Muhammad and Malvo:

Keenya Cook;
Jerry Ray Taylor;
Paul La Ruffa;
Rupinder Oberoi;
Muhammad Rahid;
Million Woldemariam;
Claudine Lee Parker;
Kellie Adams;
Hong Im Ballenger;
Wright Williams, Jr.; and
Jeff Hopper.

California Joe

11-09-2009, 06:45 PM

Good riddance.

Createdeemcee

11-09-2009, 06:55 PM

Burn In Hell POS, May the devil be at his door step for you.

joka

11-09-2009, 08:45 PM

Muhammad is scheduled to die by injection at a Virginia prison for the slaying of Dean Harold Meyers at a gas station during a three-week spree in 2002 across Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C.

He only got convicted for one of the murders? Did they just pick one randomly and left the other cases out of court? Also, apparently his spree to place in 3 states, how was the Virginia court chosen?

Policía Loco

11-09-2009, 08:51 PM

He only got convicted for one of the murders? Did they just pick one randomly and left the other cases out of court? Also, apparently his spree to place in 3 states, how was the Virginia court chosen?

Usually people like this would get charged for all possible crimes in all jurisdictions. But once someone is convicted of one and sentenced to life in prison or to death, then they will get rid of the rest of the charges, because whats the point?

Createdeemcee

11-09-2009, 08:52 PM

Death Penalty is easier in Va than MD, thats why we said keep his a$$, cause if it were here (MD), hed be living off our tax dollars like the boy is.

commanding

11-09-2009, 09:12 PM

He'll be in hell before breakfast.

SBL

11-09-2009, 10:33 PM

Justice will be served, so far as I'm concerned.

LineDoggie

11-09-2009, 10:35 PM

I hope when John Allen Muhhamed reaches Hell, Tookie Williams is first in line to buttfcuk him with a Pineapple.

SilentType

11-09-2009, 10:54 PM

I hope there is a hell where the wicked are punished, because if there isn't than he's getting off easy. He'll get that cold ice like fluid pushing through his veins then drift off to sleep. Then he'll essentially be what he was in life just a lump of organic waste of no value whatsoever.

wicked_hind

11-09-2009, 11:02 PM

Once he gets the needle and descends into Hell, the sad thing about it all is that he wasn't the first person to commit a crime of this nature, nor will he be the last. What really worries me is that there are more people out there just like him just ready to explode. It's a sick world.

toki

11-10-2009, 04:45 AM

Usually people like this would get charged for all possible crimes in all jurisdictions. But once someone is convicted of one and sentenced to life in prison or to death, then they will get rid of the rest of the charges, because whats the point?

Maybe because the relatives of the other victims feel left out, if their murder is not resulting in a sentence? Sounds like "he's already dead, so not punishable anymore".
Sounds strange for me.

[WDW]Megaraptor

11-10-2009, 08:02 AM

Maybe because the relatives of the other victims feel left out, if their murder is not resulting in a sentence? Sounds like "he's already dead, so not punishable anymore".
Sounds strange for me.

Yeah, but you have to balance that with the consideration that trying him for all 22 murders would take something like 40 years and be a huge drain on the state's resources.

It's sort of like the trial of Saddam, they put him on trial for one slam-dunk case and executed him because if they tried him for every crime he ever did he would have been on trial for the rest of his natural life.

toki

11-10-2009, 08:23 AM

Megaraptor;4546438']Yeah, but you have to balance that with the consideration that trying him for all 22 murders would take something like 40 years and be a huge drain on the state's resources.

Maybe they find 10 more unsolved cases in the way. Sometimes it's worth to literally keep on trying. He's dead anyway, simply "console" more victims in the process and the resources are well placed. Some middle solution maybe, but one murder and 'out'?

SBL

11-10-2009, 08:59 AM

Maybe they find 10 more unsolved cases in the way. Sometimes it's worth to literally keep on trying. He's dead anyway, simply "console" more victims in the process and the resources are well placed. Some middle solution maybe, but one murder and 'out'?
I think it's a non-issue as far as most people are concerned. There's no question he's responsible.

oldsoak

11-10-2009, 09:10 AM

Mebbe. But he's had two years over what his victims had.
I do get doubts in cases where the conviction was borderline and theres reason to believe that X didnt do it. Then I am all in favour of commutation to life in the hope that at a later date it can be proved either way with new evidence that gives a rock solid aquittal or conviction. In clear cut murder cases where theres a smoking gun, then he's got to pay the price.

JBH22

11-10-2009, 09:15 AM

Muhammad still has a clemency petition before Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine.
he does not deserve iy if some human right activist says the other then F*** him

SBL

11-10-2009, 09:16 AM

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oldsoak

11-10-2009, 09:25 AM

Hey ho. Nevermind eh ?

Breakfast in Vegas

11-10-2009, 09:28 AM

^He's already dead.Well, that's a wrap. Time to head back to base for debriefing and cocktails.

hank2222

11-10-2009, 09:34 AM

to hell with him and lets remember the people that he shot ..let say a prayer for them

joka

11-10-2009, 11:12 AM

Usually people like this would get charged for all possible crimes in all jurisdictions. But once someone is convicted of one and sentenced to life in prison or to death, then they will get rid of the rest of the charges, because whats the point?

If the other murders are left out of court isn't there a risk that someone else gets away with murder if one of the untried murders is mistakenly ascribed to him? Not that I'm saying that's the case here, but isn't the whole point of trial to have an (fairly) objective review of the events and get to the bottom of things? Seems odd that it would up to the prosecutor to decide what crimes he was guilty of and just pick one to charge him on(?).

Obviously you have to balance it with resources and trial length though, but I would think that every murder deserves to be thoroughly scrutinized. Again, not that I'm saying the police and the prosecutor weren't doing a thorough job but isn't everyone innocent until proven guilty?

SBL

11-10-2009, 11:14 AM

Obviously you have to balance it with resources and trial length though, but I would think that every murder deserves to be thoroughly scrutinized. Again, not that I'm saying the police and the prosecutor weren't doing a thorough job but isn't everyone innocent until proven guilty?
I think you answered your own question here.

As for the bolded portion, I'm not sure I follow what you're getting at. He had his day in court.

joka

11-10-2009, 11:20 AM

SBL

11-10-2009, 11:21 AM

I'm just getting at that if he isn't proven guilty in a court of law, isn't there a risk that a murder gets ascribed to him mistakenly?

I'm not trying to be disrespectful or judgmental, I'm not even sure what the practice is here in Finland on this. I'm just curious.
He was proven guilty in a court of law. If a murder was ascribed to him mistakenly it wasn't for lack of an investigation, if that's what you're suggesting.

I don't think it's very likely myself, given the high-profile of the case and the abundance of evidence.

seraosha

11-10-2009, 11:31 AM

I'm just getting at that if he isn't proven guilty in a court of law, isn't there a risk that a murder gets ascribed to him mistakenly? Shouldn't he be assumed to be innocent to all the other murders until proven guilty?

I'm not trying to be disrespectful or judgmental, I'm not even sure what the practice is here in Finland on this. I'm just curious.

I have no idea what you are talking about, and honestly I don't think you do either. He was found guilty in a state that has a higher proclivity to issue the death penalty, while the other murders he committed are in other states...the guy was killing people all over the place.

He was found guilty, he has been sentenced to death, and I believe is in Hell at this very moment getting his due.

As for the other murders, if found guilty of them he can't be put to death twice, nor could he spend "life" in prison after being dead. When multiple crimes are committed across multiple states, extradition is often agreed upon by the various prosecutors offices responsible to allow the most condemning case to be brought first, and then subsequent crimes can then be brought forward to be tried individually...it's not "double jeopardy", which is another topic.

Closure for the other victims families through lengthy and expensive trials would be nice, but they will be taking comfort that the murderer is dead, at least I know I would.

2495

11-10-2009, 11:34 AM

^^ What seraosha said.

Bastards getting his dues now I hope - as for the victims families? they know that POS isn't gonna make a come back so that would give me great peace of mind.

joka

11-10-2009, 11:55 AM

He was proven guilty in a court of law. If a murder was ascribed to him mistakenly it wasn't for lack of an investigation, if that's what you're suggesting.

I don't think it's very likely myself, given the high-profile of the case and the abundance of evidence.

I'm not questioning this Mohammad guy's guilt by any means, I should have made my question more theoretical and not specific to this murderer. I apologize.

If someone is accused to be guilty of 10 murders but only proven guilty to one, doesn't presumption of innocence dictate that he's innocent to the other 9, until proven guilty? Should you just let the prosecutor decide who's guilty to the remaining 9 when confronted with a especially heinous criminal?

SBL

11-10-2009, 11:58 AM

If someone is accused to be guilty of 10 murders but only proven guilty to one, doesn't presumption of innocence dictate that he's innocent to the other 9, until proven guilty? Should you just let the prosecutor decide who's guilty to the remaining 9 when confronted with a especially heinous criminal?
All of them were investigated. He was prosecuted for one.
I fail to see what's so hard to understand.

dedbunniez

11-10-2009, 12:00 PM

Is he officially dead now? (Link?)

Jobu

11-10-2009, 12:01 PM

Is he officially dead now? (Link?)

Not for a few hours yet but his appeals have all been exhausted so he's a dead man walking.

SBL

11-10-2009, 12:02 PM

I am an idiot. It's slated for 9 PM.

My apologies to everyone for this oversight. Details, details...:cantbeli:

wicked_hind

11-10-2009, 12:02 PM

It doesn't matter now, he's gonna be dead.

joka

11-10-2009, 12:03 PM

I have no idea what you are talking about, and honestly I don't think you do either.

That's why I'm asking, if it's inappropriate or if I've offended anyone by doing this I apologize. I may have a confrontational way of presenting my questions but I'm really just curious.

dedbunniez

11-10-2009, 12:04 PM

I think what Joka is asking (correct me if I am wrong)

Since malvo is only found guilty for one of the 10 deaths will/can the other 9 be attributed to someone else at a later time?

SBL

11-10-2009, 12:05 PM

Since malvo is only found guilty for one of the 10 deaths will/can the other 9 be attributed to someone else at a later time?
If they're brought under review for some reason, yeah.

Policía Loco

11-10-2009, 12:45 PM

First of all, can you really punish anyone more than the death penalty?

Second he was already convicted for several murders between the states that he killed in.

Also, it doesnt mean that all of them weren't investigated thoroughly.

Ghostrider_NL

11-10-2009, 01:10 PM

the only question that is relevant in this case is: will it be broadcasted on pay per view?

Bia

11-10-2009, 01:38 PM

One turd getting flushed.

/excellent

Mastermind

11-10-2009, 02:28 PM

Ah, gallows humor...love it. :-)

JJC

11-10-2009, 02:37 PM

Either time flies really fast or the legal system has worked faster in this case. Too bad we won't get to see it live.:-(

VansRV

11-10-2009, 03:08 PM

the only question that is relevant in this case is: will it be broadcasted on pay per view?

Good idea, with the proceeds going to the victim's families.

CantGetRight

11-10-2009, 07:25 PM

another Muslim extremists meets a proper end. wonder how many years before hasan meets the same fate

Clockwinder

11-10-2009, 07:34 PM

Burn baby burn. Unfortunately it's an injection, so it'll be painless. Dammit.

SilentType

11-10-2009, 07:37 PM

SoSo

11-10-2009, 07:42 PM

Another crazy terrorist sent to Shaitan, where he belongs. Good riddance.

T3ngu

11-10-2009, 09:42 PM

Washington DC sniper John Allen Muhammad executed

Article from: http://www.news.com.au/images/sources/h14_thecouriermail.gif (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/)
November 11, 2009 12:25pm

BREAKING NEWS: THE mastermind of the 2002 sniper attacks that killed 10 in the Washington DC area has been executed.
A prison spokesman says John Allen Muhammad died by injection at 9:11 p.m. Tuesday (12.11pm Qld time) at Greensville Correctional Center, Fox News and other media report.

Muhammad was executed for killing Dean Harold Meyers at a gas station during the spree that terrorized Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C., over a three-week period. His teenage accomplice, Lee Boyd Malvo, was sentenced to life in prison.

Prison spokesman Larry Traylor says Muhammad had no final words. He says he didn't hear him utter a word the entire time.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26335486-954,00.html

sepheronx

11-10-2009, 09:43 PM

Whats sad is that a lot of people on 4chan regard this man as a hero for doing what everyone should.

What a sick POS. See you in hell buddy.

California Joe

11-10-2009, 09:59 PM

I'm not questioning this Mohammad guy's guilt by any means, I should have made my question more theoretical and not specific to this murderer. I apologize.

If someone is accused to be guilty of 10 murders but only proven guilty to one, doesn't presumption of innocence dictate that he's innocent to the other 9, until proven guilty? Should you just let the prosecutor decide who's guilty to the remaining 9 when confronted with a especially heinous criminal?

I understand what you're saying. He was indicted on all the murders. This one was just the one that he was tried on first. They could have then tried him on all the subsequent indictments but he was found guilty of this one and sentenced to death. It would have been a huge waste of time and effort to try him on every single case after the first sentence was imposed. It's not like the random serial killer cases where they don't actually know how many victims there were. These were clear cut cases, ballistics and other evidence was tight and unequivocal.

I lived near Fredericksburg when this was happening. One victim was shot in thae parking lot of an art supply store the day after I'd been in there. It was a crazy time, people ducking behind their cars at gas pumps, running in zig zag patterns across parking lots etc.

Elbs

11-10-2009, 10:06 PM

I lived near Fredericksburg when this was happening. One victim was shot in thae parking lot of an art supply store the day after I'd been in there. It was a crazy time, people ducking behind their cars at gas pumps, running in zig zag patterns across parking lots etc.

Damn that's crazy. I remember seeing quite a few guys interviewed on TV packing heat in plain sight. Things could have gotten a lot worse with nervous people with twitchy trigger fingers...

SBL

11-10-2009, 10:24 PM

Things could have gotten a lot worse with nervous people with twitchy trigger fingers...
Well, it didn't. Rather pointless conjecture, if you ask me.

They were crazy times indeed.

I can't think of a name

11-10-2009, 10:31 PM

One turd getting flushed.

/excellent

Racist....

I can't think of a name

11-10-2009, 10:33 PM

I lived near Fredericksburg when this was happening. One victim was shot in thae parking lot of an art supply store the day after I'd been in there. It was a crazy time, people ducking behind their cars at gas pumps, running in zig zag patterns across parking lots etc.

Damn, that must of been something to live through. Not sure how I would of reacted.

dttk0009

11-10-2009, 10:37 PM

Good riddance.

Soldat_Américain

11-11-2009, 12:06 AM

How expensive is lethal injection?

FrankBooth0

11-11-2009, 12:09 AM

Sodium Thiopental (lethal dose - sedates person)
Pancuronium Bromide (muscle relaxant-collapses diaphragm and lungs)
Potassium Chloride (stops heart beat)
The offender is usually ****ounced dead approximately 7 minutes after the lethal injection begins.

Cost per execution for drugs used : $86.08

From a Texas website, don't know about the other areas.

Soldat_Américain

11-11-2009, 12:13 AM

For some reason I thought those chemicals were extremely expensive...well it ain't as cheap as the noose and the bullet, but if it cost under $100 I'm good with lethal injection.

Rogue_Kop

11-11-2009, 12:43 AM

how long ago was he convicted?

looks like our judicial systems needs to be "reformed" too, make it more streamlined and cheaper for the citizens...

CORRALES

11-11-2009, 12:47 AM

finally this pos is dead & is in his way to hell i just wonder why take this so ****^ng long

MG 3

11-11-2009, 01:32 AM

I still remember the time he killed the man at the Home Depot near seven corners, falls church. Where I was just minutes earlier.

Serves him right.

Connaught Ranger

11-11-2009, 04:09 AM

Afro-European

11-11-2009, 05:06 AM

Eye for an eye tooth for a tooth.Good riddance.

Mastermind

11-11-2009, 10:55 AM

finally this pos is dead & is in his way to hell i just wonder why take this so ****^ng long
Well, the reasons are many...but, basically, I appreciate the fact that we live in a Republic that takes it's time, to the point of being ponderous, in convictions and dealing out the death penalty. If we must have the death penalty, then it rightly should be a very detailed and concise process. The convicted should have every legal opportunity to defend his life. It keeps the system honest.

If nothing else, it stops us from some day marching people out the door of the courthouse and executing them on the sidewalk.

gaijinsamurai

11-11-2009, 02:49 PM

Well said, Mastermind.
I'm fully in support of the death penalty, but only after it has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt that the convicted has had a fair trial and is guilty.

CORRALES

11-11-2009, 03:09 PM

Well, the reasons are many...but, basically, I appreciate the fact that we live in a Republic that takes it's time, to the point of being ponderous, in convictions and dealing out the death penalty. If we must have the death penalty, then it rightly should be a very detailed and concise process. The convicted should have every legal opportunity to defend his life. It keeps the system honest.

If nothing else, it stops us from some day marching people out the door of the courthouse and executing them on the sidewalk.

LETS see they have the weapon they have the car they have the confession from the kid who did the killings with him they have dna probe what else they need to send him to hell soon? why waste tax-payers money with that pos in jail by 3 years?

oldsoak

11-11-2009, 04:57 PM

I hear you, but I must confess I'm with mastermind here. In a civilised society there has to be checks and balances and the legal process must be exhausted to ensure that a terminal sentence is beyond legal question. Its a moral duty that the state has to its citizens if it has power of life or death over them. Can they speed it up ? Quite possibly, but IMHO, I'm not happy with "fast tracking" a death sentence - especially when a lot depends on the class of lawyer an accused gets at their trial.
IIRC, in the UK, it used to be two weeks or thereabouts from conviction to execution - not a lot of time for an unsafe conviction to be overturned.

Clockwinder

11-11-2009, 05:05 PM

He's gone - Say Hi to Hitler, Arafat, Stalin and Idi Amin.

Dominique

11-11-2009, 05:08 PM

LETS see they have the weapon they have the car they have the confession from the kid who did the killings with him they have dna probe what else they need to send him to hell soon? why waste tax-payers money with that pos in jail by 3 years?

Because we have a silly little thing called the Constitution that guarantees you certain rights, but hey, lets just throw that out the window when it's convenient for our needs. Seriously, I've got no issues with the death penalty, I'd actually like to see it used more often, but only after the person being executed is proven guilty, and meets all the legal requirements are met.