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wotsnext
11-18-2009, 07:57 AM
Somali woman stoned for adultery


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A 20-year-old woman divorcee accused of committing adultery in Somalia has been stoned to death by Islamists in front of a crowd of about 200 people. A judge working for the militant group al-Shabab said she had had an affair with an unmarried 29-year-old man.
He said she gave birth to a still-born baby and was found guilty of adultery. Her boyfriend was given 100 lashes.
It is thought to be the second time a woman has been stoned to death for adultery by al-Shabab.
The group controls large swathes of southern Somalia where they have imposed a strict interpretation of Islamic law which has been unpopular with many Somalis.
'Lenient'
According to reports from a small village near the town of Wajid, 250 miles (400km) north-west of the capital, Mogadishu, the woman was taken to the public grounds where she was buried up to her waist.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46749000/jpg/_46749545_somalia226afp.jpg The Islamists want to impose a strict version of Sharia on Somalia

She was then stoned to death in front of the crowds on Tuesday afternoon.
The judge, Sheikh Ibrahim Abdirahman, said her unmarried boyfriend was given 100 lashes at the same venue.
Under al-Shabab's interpretation of Sharia law, anyone who has ever been married - even a divorcee - who has an affair is liable to be found guilty of adultery, punishable by stoning to death.
An unmarried person who has *** before marriage is liable to be given 100 lashes.
BBC East Africa correspondent Will Ross says the stoning is at least the fourth for adultery in Somalia over the last year.
Earlier this month, a man was stoned to death for adultery in the port town of Merka, south of Mogadishu.
His pregnant girlfriend was spared, until she gives birth.
Last month, two men were stoned to death in Merka after being accused of spying.
President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, a moderate Islamist, was sworn in as president after UN-brokered peace talks in January.
Although he says he also wants to implement Sharia, al-Shabab says his version of Islamic law would be too lenient.
The country has not had a functioning national government for 18 years.
Discuss.................................

markjh
11-18-2009, 08:23 AM
John 8:7 : When they persisted in questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let the person among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."

Thats all there is to say...

JJHH
11-18-2009, 09:16 AM
Too bad this religion of peace is, again, brought negatively under attention..

R.I.P.

CG51
11-18-2009, 09:20 AM
"Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!"

*kicks sand*

Strongie
11-18-2009, 10:25 AM
The decadent western society looks like a pretty good place to live in right now.

Poor woman, RIP.

Wahnsinn
11-18-2009, 01:03 PM
The decadent western society looks like a pretty good place to live in right now.

Poor woman, RIP.

I don't think anybody would choose to live in Somalia if they could live somewhere else.

RIP

Mastermind
11-18-2009, 01:11 PM
Well, what else can we expect of such savages and their cult of worshiping death and horror?

Albatross
11-18-2009, 01:15 PM
Too bad this religion of peace is, again, brought negatively under attention..

R.I.P.

Not even close to being a religion of peace, unless I missed something miraculous. I would say that its more along the lines of a religion of ignorance.


Well, what else can we expect of such savages and their cult of worshiping death and horror?

Its a religion of peace. :roll:

West Texican
11-18-2009, 03:20 PM
John 8:7 : When they persisted in questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let the person among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."

Thats all there is to say...

Amen.


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SoSo
11-18-2009, 04:10 PM
Sickening. These al-Shabab are the scum of the Earth, and they all deserve to die. Send in the Spectres again!

khalifah
11-18-2009, 04:27 PM
coming from Somalia, im suprised this even made the news.
RIP

3rdMillhouse
11-18-2009, 07:33 PM
[rethorical question tag]Hmmm..... you don't see many muslim clerics showing up on tv to condemn that sort of barbarism... I wonder why?[/rethorical quesiton tag]

Clockwinder
11-18-2009, 07:36 PM
Typical news (sadly) from a Muslim country where they ignore the teachings of their own holy book that women should be honoured and respected. Scum of the earth. Fundamentalism (Muslim, Christian, Jew) will destroy us all.

Fallap
11-18-2009, 07:37 PM
An ancient tradition that we in the west have misunderstood.

It's all part of their culture.

Universal_Soldier
11-18-2009, 07:39 PM
Fvcking Retards............
And they call other people infidels. shame on those bastards.

2495
11-18-2009, 07:40 PM
[rethorical question tag]Hmmm..... you don't see many muslim clerics showing up on tv to condemn that sort of barbarism... I wonder why?[/rethorical quesiton tag]

You need to get intellectual copyright on that.. priceless.


An ancient tradition that we in the west has misunderstood.

It's all part of their culture.

Yeah because if we don't understand it now we sure as hell will when our leftist islam apologist governments cave in and introduce stoning, flogging and hanging women / gays to the law books.

Clockwinder
11-18-2009, 07:42 PM
An ancient tradition that we in the west have misunderstood.

It's all part of their culture.

Oh for fvck sake! You have to be joking!!! There's not a lot to misunderstand about stoning a kid to death while the a-hole scumbag men do as they wish to enslave and diminish and minimize and trweat women as lower than livestock. Culture my arse!

Euroamerican
11-18-2009, 07:43 PM
Dont' worry, I think Fallap forgot to put the /Sarcasm /ON and /OFF switches on that.

JPBaz
11-18-2009, 07:44 PM
John 8:7 : When they persisted in questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let the person among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."

Thats all there is to say...

Perfect response, thanks for capturing the thought.

RIP...

Clockwinder
11-18-2009, 07:46 PM
Dont' worry, I think Fallap forgot to put the /Sarcasm /ON and /OFF switches on that.

In that case, I apologize.

3rdMillhouse
11-18-2009, 07:51 PM
Oh for fvck sake! You have to be joking!!! There's not a lot to misunderstand about stoning a kid to death while the a-hole scumbag men do as they wish to enslave and diminish and minimize and trweat women as lower than livestock. Culture my arse!

Nah man, he's just being ironic.

Fallap
11-18-2009, 09:10 PM
I was just being sarcastic! :D :D

One?
11-19-2009, 12:08 AM
Too bad this religion of peace is, again, brought negatively under attention..

R.I.P.


Just to clarify the religion has nothing to do with it, its ignorant people who hide behind the cover of religion. The religion says you need 4 different people to witness the male or female in the act. Unless they are having group *** that is almost impossible to prove.

sreto
11-19-2009, 01:35 AM
Just to clarify the religion has nothing to do with it, its ignorant people who hide behind the cover of religion. The religion says you need 4 different people to witness the male or female in the act. Unless they are having group *** that is almost impossible to prove.

Are we reading the same article?


The group controls large swathes of southern Somalia where they have imposed a strict interpretation of Islamic law


Under al-Shabab's interpretation of Sharia law, anyone who has ever been married - even a divorcee - who has an affair is liable to be found guilty of adultery, punishable by stoning to death.


Although he says he also wants to implement Sharia, al-Shabab says his version of Islamic law would be too lenieny

ggk
11-19-2009, 02:27 AM
somalia have law? lol

haze99
11-19-2009, 11:53 AM
To clockwinder, where are the "fundamentalist" Christians? What group of Christians is out to destroy the world? Or Jews for that matter? Were you being sarcastic? If not, you use a very broad brush to paint everyone.

magicman
11-19-2009, 11:59 AM
Typical news (sadly) from a Muslim country where they ignore the teachings of their own holy book that women should be honoured and respected. Scum of the earth. Fundamentalism (Muslim, Christian, Jew) will destroy us all.
To bad alot of them are illiterate and can't even read the book.

tea drinker
11-19-2009, 01:40 PM
somalia have law? lol

Sounds like they have law allright - law of the jungle.

Fallap
11-19-2009, 04:00 PM
Sounds like they have law allright - law of the jungle.

Somalia doesn't have a jungle! Only sand! :/

Clockwinder
11-19-2009, 04:19 PM
To clockwinder, where are the "fundamentalist" Christians? What group of Christians is out to destroy the world? Or Jews for that matter? Were you being sarcastic? If not, you use a very broad brush to paint everyone.

I didn't mean Christian and Jewish fundamentalists were out to destroy the world - just mould and shape it the way they want it to be - they see everything in black and white and those of us with prismatic vision are in their way. I mean it to say that fundamentalism, by it's very nature, expects to have us all conform and believe. The Mormans are fundamentalists who practice passive/aggressive conversion. I would say that I am an anti-fundamentalist who wants everyone to be logical, pragmatic and flexible, and be willing to see the other side and make accommodations.

Clockwinder
11-19-2009, 04:21 PM
somalia have law? lol

Somalia has no government. No law other than war lords and thugs and Imams. Mogadishu is the only place with any sort of organization, and that's giving it a whole lot more credit than it deserves.

The UN has thrown it's hands in the air and most NGOs have abandoned the place.

Mastermind
11-19-2009, 04:37 PM
So? Now what? There are probably several places in the world just as wild and uncontrolled...must rankle the UN that they actually fail to control some spots on the globe.

It seems to me to be a perfect breeding ground for Muslim Terrorists, Inc. If it becomes that to the degree the western civilizations start getting hammered from there...I wonder what happens then?

Can just imagine the anguish of the politically correct crowd. They would much rather bleed to death from a thousand Terrorist inflicted cuts than take decisive action against "poor down trodden people of color".

Clockwinder
11-19-2009, 05:16 PM
So? Now what? There are probably several places in the world just as wild and uncontrolled...must rankle the UN that they actually fail to control some spots on the globe.

It seems to me to be a perfect breeding ground for Muslim Terrorists, Inc. If it becomes that to the degree the western civilizations start getting hammered from there...I wonder what happens then?

Can just imagine the anguish of the politically correct crowd. They would much rather bleed to death from a thousand Terrorist inflicted cuts than take decisive action against "poor down trodden people of color".

Agree. Since "Black Hawk Down" though, the spine and resolve to commit combat elements back into Somalia is long gone. The reasons and rationale matter little (that the UN forces failed to back up the US forces once they were engaged, with armor), it's the "failure of arms" that's remembered.
I firmly believe that if it isn't already, this is the next battleground against terrorists and Al Qieda.

An occasional AC-130 sortie doesn't really cut it.

Mastermind
11-19-2009, 05:23 PM
Agree. Since "Black Hawk Down" though, the spine and resolve to commit combat elements back into Somalia is long gone. The reasons and rationale matter little (that the UN forces failed to back up the US forces once they were engaged, with armor), it's the "failure of arms" that's remembered.
I firmly believe that if it isn't already, this is the next battleground against terrorists and Al Qieda.

An occasional AC-130 sortie doesn't really cut it.
The primary reason the US and UN failed there was the "Holding Myself Hostage" principle...Clinton was already getting flak about the Big Bad Assed US smashing a poor "African" nation of primitive tribes people...it simply did not matter what kind of monsters they were...the nefarious types were going to cultivate a liberal back-splash of criticism...and there was no way a liberal government would be able to withstand that kind of criticism. Even Bush realised the potential for the libs to paint him and the US as monsters....this was why no tanks were being sent in...how long before news media would sho modern tanks blasting poor defenseless "skinnies" to bits. They had to let the event have some credible sense of equality and restraint...resulting, of course, in coalition deaths...lets not forget the slaughtered Pakistani forces there...as I recall, more than a hundred were murdered practically in formation! Nothing was done about that...hell, nothing could be done about that!

Clockwinder
11-19-2009, 05:29 PM
the slaughtered Pakistani forces there...as I recall, more than a hundred were murdered practically in formation! Nothing was done about that...hell, nothing could be done about that!

The Pakistanis sort of brought that on themselves by ignoring advice and counsel - their senior officers firmly believed that the Somalis would never fire on their Muslim "brothers" - BUT also the UN again sat back inside the stadium and refused to commit without permission from their composite governments.
What a cluster!!! At least the Afghan adventure has some semblance of autonomous leadership - albeit lacking competence and field experience.

Mastermind
11-19-2009, 05:57 PM
So...what do you do about a nation that elects suicide over defeat if your are not willing to commit mass genocide?

The Japanese tried that, and it backfired on them. They were convinced the allies so despised them, they would proceed with mass genocide.

The Vietnamese did it successfully...convincing the west they would have to commit mass genocide in order to win...and the west was convinced the Vietnamese were ready to accept national death as a condition of defeat...so the North won.

Now, the third world nations are apparently full fledged graduates of this school...and the "Civilized" nations have no trump cards left...they can no longer bluff their ways to victory. They have show such repugnance toward killing, the outcomes of these modern conflicts are no longer in doubt... time is the only question

Clockwinder
11-19-2009, 06:03 PM
So...what do you do about a nation that elects suicide over defeat if your are not willing to commit mass genocide?

The Japanese tried that, and it backfired on them. They were convinced the allies so despised them, they would proceed with mass genocide.

The Vietnamese did it successfully...convincing the west they would have to commit mass genocide in order to win...and the west was convinced the Vietnamese were ready to accept national death as a condition of defeat...so the North won.

Now, the third world nations are apparently full fledged graduates of this school...and the "Civilized" nations have no trump cards left...they can no longer bluff their ways to victory. They have show such repugnance toward killing, the outcomes of these modern conflicts are no longer in doubt... time is the only question

I am afraid you are correct. I'm all for escalation of force to meet force, even up to and including mass destruction, but I'm in the logical minority. The ONLY thing these people understand (because it's all they know) is superior force wins. Unless you apply sufficient force to suppress them, they will always bounce back - e.g. Palestinians, Taliban, Somalis.

Mastermind
11-19-2009, 06:12 PM
These modern "Afghanistan's" are terrible things. They will never end. The refusal of the power nations to understand that swift conclusions, regardless of force necessary, saves lives and treasure, will result in continuous streams, then rivers of blood.

The Russians gave the world a prime example of "lesson learned"...they pu55y-footed around with Chechnya I, then came back and finished the job in Chechnya II...with prejudice! The principle was not lost on the modern third worlders...but, my God, what a price!