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2RHPZ
07-14-2004, 01:07 PM
Photo gallery at: http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Special/CopeIndiaReport/index.htm


INDO – US EXERCISE COPE INDIA –04

Exercise Cope India 04 was an Air Force level exercise between the USAF and the Indian Air Force (IAF) and marked a beginning of a new chapter in Indo-US bilateral relations. This was the first opportunity since 1963 for USAF fighters to operate from Indian soil. The exercise brought together leading fighter combat aircraft and aircrew and ground crew of both air forces. The USAF flew in F-15Cs, while the IAF was represented by Mirage 2000, Su-30K, MiG-27s and MiG-21 (upgraded). The meeting ground provided a strong foundation and deep understanding towards developing a new relationship between the IAF and USAF for the future.

Not only was the exercise a gathering of hi-tech, state of the art aircraft and systems of both air forces, but also proved to be an excellent meeting ground for the personnel of the two air forces to understand each other. Despite such a vast difference in culture and traditions, there was complete synergy and understanding of minds, and of concepts in the air and on the ground. The mutual respect and bonhomie that developed between members of the two sides have cemented a firm foundation for moving ahead towards higher bilateralism.

Planning for the exercise commenced during the IPC (Initial Planning Conference) at the Air HQ at New Delhi in the last week of Sep 2003. Various modalities for the smooth conduct of the exercise were chalked out during the IPC. Col Greg Neubeck, a senior F-15 pilot with flying experience of over 3000 hrs, led the USAF delegation. Sgt Mike Boden in-charge of administration helped to work out modalities concerning security and admin aspects. Once the IPC was conducted, a broad outline for planning was set into motion.

All aspects relating to operations, maintenance and administration were finalised and put in place during the discussions which took place subsequently between the two teams. Exchange visits by the participants of the two air forces took place. A team of Indian pilots, fighter controllers, ATCOs and AFSOs visited the US Air Force Base in Alaska. Likewise, a USAF team visited India to familiarise and acquaint themselves with the procedures followed by IAF AF Stn Gwalior, the host IAF airbase began preparations for the exercise in true earnest, almost three months prior to the Exercise. The Chief of Air Staff made a visit during the first week of February 2004, to check the arrangements for the Exercise.

The operating complex of 7 Sqn “THE BATTLE AXES”, which was the host Sqn, was further built up to accommodate USAF personnel and reflected itself as a model Indian Air Force Sqn.

By the first week of Feb 04, Gwalior Air Force Base was all geared up for the exercise. The first transport support aircraft of USAF, a C-5 Galaxy, arrived in the evening hours of 12th Feb 04.

This was followed by a few more trips and the entire ground support facilities were in place by 14 Feb 04. The first two F-15 fighters, from the 19th Fighter Sqn “GAMECOCKS”, arrived at Gwalior on 14 Feb. The next four F-15 were delayed due to technical reasons and arrived in the afternoon of 19 Feb 04.

The exercise began on 16 Feb, with the USAF pilots being familiarized with the airfield and local procedures and also of the diversionary airfields. USAF pilots got a chance to see the Taj Mahal at Agra and the mighty Himalayas from the air and they were visibly impressed by both.

Flying activity picked up pace in the next few days and missions went through as planned. The Americans soon became familiar with the famous Indian culture, hospitality and especially spicy Indian food, which was well appreciated. The growing friendship between the two teams was clearly visible by the fact that the airmen of both air forces were soon playing volleyball and football matches together during their spare time. The Americans showed a lot of interest in learning cricket and likewise the Indians in learning baseball!!

Flying activity continued at a brisk pace during the second week with large package missions being flown, which required lengthy briefing and even more exhaustive debriefs. Many thought provoking ideas and lessons emerged from these missions.

Besides flying activity, there was considerable social interaction during the fortnight. Welcome Cocktails at both Officers Mess and SNCOs Mess was organised on 16th Feb, so as to break the ice. This was followed by a “Roll - Call” on Friday evening, the 20th of Feb. This “Roll -Call” requires a special mention, as this was an interaction which set the grounds for strong bonds of friendship between members of both teams.

Interaction with the media was planned on the 25th Feb. The press were impressed on seeing the launch and recovery of a large number of combat aircraft participating in the exercises. A static display of all participating aircraft was planned during the day. Commanding Officers’ of all the units and a few participants exchanged their views with the media.

On 26th Feb, various presentations and lectures on a wide variety of aviation-related topics took place. The team exchanged their past experiences on various operational, admin and maintenance aspects of both air forces.

A farewell dinner was organised on the evening of 26 February, with the Americans getting a short glimpse of Indian tradition and culture during a brief cultural programme put up by a local group from Gwalior city. Mementos and pleasantries were exchanged during the dinner.

The USAF fighters ferried back on 27th morning at 1100 hrs. The transport support followed soon after and the IAF bid farewell to all USAF personnel.

The exercise provided a stepping-stone to a new beginning in Indo-US military and bi-lateral ties. It provided a firm foundation for enhancing mutual operational understanding, and set the basis for future co-operation between the two air forces.

Although this was the first meeting ground between the two air forces in a truly operational air combat environment, all initial hesitations vanished from Day One. The relationships which developed were indeed, excellent. A healthy professional respect was noticed on both sides in the air and on the ground.


When questioned on the capabilities of IAF pilots, Col Greg Newbech, USAF Team Leader made the following remarks: -
- What we’ve seen in the last two weeks is, the IAF can stand toe-to-toe with best AF in the world.

- I pity the pilot who has to face the IAF and chances the day to underestimate him; because he won’t be going home.

- Indian hospitality from everyone has been truly overwhelming.

- The greatest compliment we heard from an IAF pilot – You American pilots are just like us, simply down to earth people.

- We depart India with great respect for the Indian Air Force. Your pilots, maint and support crew are exceptional professionals.

fantassin
07-14-2004, 01:22 PM
Quote:

The IAF can stand toe-to-toe with best AF in the world.


According to an issue of Air Force Monthly I read last year, the IAF lost just above 400 aircrafts and around 190 pilots since 1990.


From the Hindu Times

The statistics



Accident, or loss, rates of combat aircraft are usually measured in terms of incidents per ten thousand operational hours or "sorties.'' These are often not publicly disclosed and the IAF is no exception in this regard. However, the IAF with 26 aircraft lost in 2000 and 30 the year before is easily at the top of the accident league of large air forces and one can safely assume that measurements in terms of operational hours or sorties will not significantly affect its "record.''

Eighteen of the 26 aircraft lost in the year 2000 were fighters with the others ranging from helicopters to trainers like the Kiran and Iskra. Not all the 26 aircraft losses were fatal to the pilots concerned, but some were and the loss of civilian life and property on the ground was not insignificant.

Of the 18 fighters lost, ten were MiG-21s, prima facie a high level. Closer examination, however, reveals that only two were in Assam (or elsewhere in the North East). If one assumes that student pilots of MOFTU caused both, two out of 18, leave alone two out of 26, is a very low proportion hardly justifying hysteria on this count. Even this low figure might well be an over statement because a significant amount of MiG-21 operational flying takes place in north eastern India and the lost aircraft could well have been on those sorties.

He219
07-14-2004, 01:43 PM
Didn't the IAF recently decide to get rid of those aging MiG21's they dubbed 'flying coffins'?
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Air Force personnel perform maintenance checks on a MiG-21 aircraft before the plane was boarded by Indian defense minister George Fernandes, at the Ambala Air Force Base in Ambala, India, on Aug. 1, 2003. Fernandes, 73, flew the Soviet made Mig-21 jets in an attempt to allay fears over frequent MiG aircraft crashes. Billions of rupees earmarked for Indias defense go unspent each year despite an alarming rise in air force jet crashes, attributed to an aging fleet and lack of advanced training jets.

From the exercise:

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A U.S. F-15C fighter, front, and two Indian Sukhoi-30 fighter planes fly in close formation during a joint air exercise over Gwalior, India, in this undated Feb. 2004 photo. Indian and American fighter aircraft soared over the central Indian city in their biggest ever joint air exercise as part of widening military cooperation between the two nations, media and officials said. In the background is the River Chambal.
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In this picture taken 16 February 2004, A pair of USAF F-15C fighter planes (R) of the 19th Squadron escort a pair of Indian Air Force MiG 27 fighter planes as they travel across India, during a joint Indo-US air exercise "Cope India -04"
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Indian Air Force (IAF) Master Warrent Officer (MWO) Karnail Singh (R) briefs media representatives about ammunition types as a MiG-29 fighter aircraft sits in the background, during a joint Indo-US air exercise "Cope India -04"
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Indian Air Force M-2000 Mirage waits to taxi to the runway (R) as a U.S. Air Force F-15C Eagle (L) takes off
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Two Indian Air Force Mirage 2000 fighter aircraft take off during a joint Indo-US air exercise "Cope India -04" at Gwalior Air Force Station
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A USAF F-15C fighter plane (C) of the 19th Squadron escorts an Indian Air Force Mirage 2000 fighter plane as they cross the Himalayan Mountain Range over India, during a joint Indo-US air exercise "Cope India -04"

DLodge
07-14-2004, 01:45 PM
Accident, or loss, rates of combat aircraft are usually measured in terms of incidents per ten thousand operational hours or "sorties.'' These are often not publicly disclosed and the IAF is no exception in this regard.
Actually the U.S. measures accidents in terms of hundreds of thousands operational hours, and they are publicly reported annually. All you have to do is check out http://afsafety.af.mil/

2RHPZ
07-14-2004, 03:36 PM
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DLodge
07-16-2004, 12:59 AM
Very cool pics! CAG, if you don't mind my asking, where did you find the last 4 you posted? Particularly the ones with the time/date stamp, as they obviously weren't the work of a pro photographer.

szr
07-16-2004, 02:04 AM
Awesome photos! Great to see cold war rival aircraft designs, flying in formation, together.

2RHPZ
07-16-2004, 05:20 AM
Very cool pics! CAG, if you don't mind my asking, where did you find the last 4 you posted? Particularly the ones with the time/date stamp, as they obviously weren't the work of a pro photographer.

I´ve found them on one the forum devoted to Pakistani Air Force, posted by Pakistani user. According to his previous posts there he must be a member of PAF or at least someone very closely tied to them.

brigadeotg
07-16-2004, 11:22 AM
Very cool pics! CAG, if you don't mind my asking, where did you find the last 4 you posted? Particularly the ones with the time/date stamp, as they obviously weren't the work of a pro photographer.

The photos are from a report released by the Indian Air Force on Cope India 2004. You can access the report at the official IAF website.

2RHPZ
08-25-2004, 05:24 PM
This one is exactly one year old - from COPE INDIA 2003 - but I like it and therefore here it is:

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