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Rudolph
11-26-2009, 03:30 AM
Cronin: Malema's delicate skin (http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthAfrica/Politics/1057/6d66e1db1ecd4fff82ed97eef5d3f942/25-11-2009-10-17/Cronin_Malemas_delicate_skin)
2009-11-25 22:17

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League and SA Communist deputy general-secretary have buried the hatchet after their spat over the nationalisation of the mines.

"We are particularly relieved that Comrade Cronin engages with the youth league's call for nationalisation after re-reading the conceptual framework we released in July 2009," the league said in a statement on Wednesday.

Cronin published a piece explaining his position and apologising for aspects of the publication that started the furore.

"The youth league holds Comrade Jeremy Cronin (http://www.whoswhosa.co.za/Pages/profilefull.aspx?IndID=2646) in high regard and appreciates the fact that he is one of the best intellectuals produced by the revolutionary movement," it said.

'Off-the-wall sound-bytes'

The league and the SACP clashed over the issue after Cronin published an analysis of the issues surrounding mine nationalisation.

In it, he criticised ANCYL president Julius Malema (http://www.whoswhosa.co.za/Pages/profilefull.aspx?IndID=8930) and the league's call for nationalisation, saying: "Comrade Malema hasn't always helped his case with off-the-wall sound-bytes.

"The impression of a policy being made on the hoof, individualistically, is reinforced by the fact that we are yet to see any serious attempt at a collective policy document on this matter from the ANCYL."

Malema responded to this by describing the piece penned by Cronin as "openly reactionary".

He said he did "not need the permission of white political messiahs to think".

Malema described it as "sad" that Cronin "decided to isolate me" from a league resolution in which it outlined its stance on nationalisation: ".... the State should be custodian of the people in its ownership, extraction, production and trade of mineral wealth beneath the soil, monopoly industries and banks".

Statement made in jest

On mineral beneficiation Malema said Cronin reduced the league's call for this to an "obsession with bling".

Cronin then wrote another piece, clarifying his position and showing that it was not vastly different from that of the league.

He apologised for suggesting "more in jest than seriously" that Malema thought of beneficiation largely in terms of bling.

"It is here that I made my own misstep. I was trying to introduce a touch of polemical spice into what can sometimes be a dry topic," he said.

"It was a silly comment and I apologise. I had not realised that... Malema had such a delicate skin."

The league accepted his apology, saying he "has risen above narrow squabbles and accepts on areas he erred".

"Comrade Jeremy’s latest intervention proves that the debate on nationalisation is a complex question," the league said.

The league would "be engaging with all progressive forces to consolidate the most coherent, developmental and helpful model of nationalisation of mines, which will benefit all people".

- SAPA

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Only touches the subject, let's hope these kinds of discussions don't go too far, South African government needs to wake up and smell the 21st century.

OrangeWolf
11-26-2009, 08:25 AM
They can just tell the masses they "fought" for them in the "struggle'' and get away with anything. I have seen this Malema guy's high school diploma, I hope he will get a serious disease before he's a chance of becoming the new Zuma.

Walker-69
11-26-2009, 10:18 AM
Malema responded to this by describing the piece penned by Cronin as "openly reactionary".


This is stalinist lingo. "Reactionary" is the opposite of "progressive". Progressive is good in stalinist lingo, reactionary is very very bad.

2495
11-26-2009, 10:39 AM
If I owned a mine in SA? I would watch carefully, and a few days before this came into play (if it does) I would destroy every damn inch of it with high explosives and simply walk away.

SA is in my opinion snowballing into just another African sh1t hole.

ego docui history
11-26-2009, 09:52 PM
I think I'd sooner screw with the Mossad or CIA before I'd go up against De Beers. Now those guys are scary.

wilhelm
11-27-2009, 06:00 AM
Storm in a teacup. The various mining companies consist of some of the most powerful companies in the world.

Mental retards spouting rubbish for the mindless rabble.

Rudolph
02-03-2010, 04:05 AM
ANCYL slams minister over mines
Feb 02 2010 16:17

Cape Town - The ANC Youth League has reacted with sharp criticism to Minister of Minerals Susan Shabangu's affirmation that mines would not be nationalised in her lifetime.

Releasing a statement after Shabangu tried to allay concerns at the annual Mining Indaba that there could be a shift in the country's mines policy, the Youth League accused the minister of misleading investors.

"We call on the minister of minerals to stop misleading investors, because these investors should also make input into the discussion document on the nationalisation of mines, which is going to be reality not in the distant future," the Youth League said.

It also accused Shabangu of trying to "impress imperialists", as she had previously told the Youth League during internal discussions that she did not disagree with its stance.

"The ANC Youth League is beginning to have doubts on the capability of Minister Shabangu to translate ANC policy objectives into practice in the ministry of minerals.

"The ANC has requested the ANC Youth League to write a detailed, coherent and concrete perspective on the nationalisation of mines, and we have done that - yet a minister chose to jump the gun and make false assurances to investors and role players in mining. As disciplined members of the ANC, we will raise this concern with the leadership of the ANC."

The youth wing of the ruling party pointed out that the ANC is the centre of power and gives direction to government policy, not vice versa.

"The reason why the ANC Youth League has developed a concrete programme on the nationalisation of mines within the ANC, not in government, is because we understand that the ANC gives policy direction to government," it said.

- I-Net Bridge

http://www.fin24.com/articles/default/display_article.aspx?Channel=News_Home&ArticleId=1518-25_2570173&IsColumnistStory=False

Mr Gently Benevolent
02-03-2010, 04:54 AM
Another sky is falling on South Africa tale, nationalization of South Africa's mines ha not likely within the span of my expected natural life.

Dinges
02-04-2010, 06:59 AM
Julius Malema wants to go after the mines with the idea that it is a way to finance the development of the country. Right . Having seen how prevalent and overt corruption is in SA I do not think it is too good an idea to get the government involved with the mining sector.

And if this dolt wants to go up against giant multinational companies he is in for a rude awakening - the fact that his ilk and his favourite revolutionary party are to all intent and purposes for sale - will hit him so fast he would not know what to do.

And Julius , did you know that the mining sector only makes up 5.6% of the economy?

digrar
02-04-2010, 11:32 PM
If I owned a mine in SA? I would watch carefully, and a few days before this came into play (if it does) I would destroy every damn inch of it with high explosives and simply walk away.

SA is in my opinion snowballing into just another African sh1t hole.

Not as easy to do as you'd think.

G-AWZT
02-05-2010, 02:20 AM
SA is in my opinion snowballing into just another African sh1t hole.


It's already there.

Jurinko
02-05-2010, 02:27 AM
Difference between Zimbabwe and SA: 10 years.

My friend visited SA three times and confirmed, that each time it looked worse.

Rudolph
02-05-2010, 03:04 AM
Difference between Zimbabwe and SA: 10 years.

My friend visited SA three times and confirmed, that each time it looked worse.

But I like it here, dammit! What to do... our Boer prophet Siener van Rensburg said something about Boer War 3. . . and South Africa becoming the last refuge for whites from Europe after some major catastrophe.