GWB of 2000

[Umbro2914]

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sorry dont know how to embed from google >.< but uh yeah, wtf happened since then?

besides the expected answered... 9/11

[LineDoggie]

Guess you forgot we were Attacked

these clips were recorded while we were at Peace

then this happened:

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Of course I'm sure Dr. Paul would blame us for the Attack, that GWB actually did it or we deserved it, right?

[BlackFlag]

Why do you care? He is no longer President. Sh*t happens, and things change.

[budgie]

^ What he said.

It's one thing using the last president for comparison but if he hasn't done anything newsworthy recently why open a new thread just to whine about the old days?

[plato]

Guess you forgot we were Attacked

these clips were recorded while we were at Peace

then this happened:


Of course I'm sure Dr. Paul would blame us for the Attack, that GWB actually did it or we deserved it, right?

Then we should have gone after the guys who attacked us with full force. Did we? Instead we used most of our military might on Iraq. Yeah, they did not attack us.

[LineDoggie]

Then we should have gone after the guys who attacked us with full force. Did we? Instead we used most of our military might on Iraq. Yeah, they did not attack us.Historically there is a precedent for that.

Japan attacked us and we sent the bulk of our men and equipment to Europe first. Maybe its me But I dont recall hearing about Regia Aeronautica or Luftwaffe Pilots over Pearl Harbor.......

But how much of our " might " was withdrawn from Afghanistan towards Iraq?

[plato]

Historically there is a precedent for that.

Japan attacked us and we sent the bulk of our men and equipment to Europe first. Maybe its me But I dont recall hearing about Regia Aeronautica or Luftwaffe Pilots over Pearl Harbor.......

But how much of our " might " was withdrawn from Afghanistan towards Iraq?

Japan and Germany were allies. Iraq and the guys who attacked us were not allies to each other.

[LineDoggie]

Regardless, we still sent the Bulk of our forces available not against those who attacked us and started the war for us, but to fight an ancillary enemy.

[Umbro2914]

^ What he said.

It's one thing using the last president for comparison but if he hasn't done anything newsworthy recently why open a new thread just to whine about the old days?
Not so much whining but rather discussing. I rasie this notion because the current president has continued the strategies implemented by the former and thus the issue is still relevant. I just want to know why the notion of a humble foreign policy, a beleif that was part of a platform that won the presidency but 8 years ago is now considered ludicrious.



Guess you forgot we were Attacked
I understand we were attacked, but i do not see it as a mandate to "nation build" -- besides, prior to 9/11 we were attacked numerous times, granted not in the same scope etc, but still a significant act ie. WTC, USS Cole....


Why do you care? He is no longer President. Sh*t happens, and things change
I care because the decesions he made affected me, is affecting me, and will continue to affect me.

[plato]

Regardless, we still sent the Bulk of our forces available not against those who attacked us and started the war for us, but to fight an ancillary enemy.

yeah, regardless of Billions of dollars. and many many lives.

[Umbro2914]

Regardless, we still sent the Bulk of our forces available not against those who attacked us and started the war for us, but to fight an ancillary enemy.

no, not regardless. Iraq was not harboring terrorists but rather arresting them. your comparison is rather misleading and fails to take into account a multitude information.

[LineDoggie]

no, not regardless. Iraq was not harboring terrorists but rather arresting them. your comparison is rather misleading and fails to take into account a multitude of information.
As is your original posting.....

[LineDoggie]

I tell you what You take a Pre 9-11 attack sound bites and try to fit them into a post 9-11 world

can I use the Ron Paul racist quotes from his newsletter as his views today?

[plato]

also, I always had this feeling that Bush was getting ready for war with Iraq regardless of 911 or not. It was only a catalyst.

[shocker1]

Well I did feel like I was part of America back in the day.p-)

I appreciate the discussion Umbro as always. Too bad some have to demean your thread with the racism card, moonbat tags and such. Sadly it is a waste of time trust me.

[Bro Jangles]

good god. a politician says something to get elected. thank god we got all our change.

[shocker1]

good god. a politician says something to get elected. thank god we got all our change.
Not for long.

[Shadowstorm]

also, I always had this feeling that Bush was getting ready for war with Iraq regardless of 911 or not. It was only a catalyst.
Tell you the truth, I believe majority of people knew we would be at war with Iraq despite of which president was in office, but it was matter of when though.

Well I did feel like I was part of America back in the day.p-)
Yeah, those were the good ol' day's before 9/11 happen.

[shocker1]

Yeah, those were the good ol' day's before 9/11 happen.
No those days were pre-Obama and was sarcasm directed at the First Lady. Guess people missed her comment.

[Kilgor]

" The American way of life is non-negotiable"

[Umbro2914]

linedoggie -- i have not once mentioned the person Ron Paul, just because i am raising a topic and position that is similar to his own does not equate me to him. So please stop brining him into the discussion and other irrelevant information (ie Racism.. wtf? is that the only dirt you can get on the guy)

i dont think everyone is seeing the big picture. Bush said he wanted to pull out of the Balkans, why didnt he? Did 9/11 change that too?
I really want to know how people view this matter, i mean is 9/11 just a blank check?

[slaveman]

Historically there is a precedent for that.

Japan attacked us and we sent the bulk of our men and equipment to Europe first. Maybe its me But I dont recall hearing about Regia Aeronautica or Luftwaffe Pilots over Pearl Harbor.......

But how much of our " might " was withdrawn from Afghanistan towards Iraq?

Hitler actually declared war on the United States... Just thought I'd throw that out there...

[slaveman]

And those supposed Ron Paul newsletter quotes were repudiated...

Congressman Ron Paul is attacked on a daily basis. He's openly made himself an enemy of the international banks and the Federal Reserve. If you disagree with the banksters, slams are always soon to follow.

[Skutatos]

The most interesting thing to me here is that he doesn't sound the babbling, stuttering idiot that he seemed to be by the end of his presidency. It's amazing what the stress of that office does to people.

[LineDoggie]

And those supposed Ron Paul newsletter quotes were repudiated... Repudiated by whom? they werent supposed, they were actually Printed. He says they werent his words, Long after they came to haunt him. Whats the name of the guy who actually wrote them then?

Does he have any continued affiliation with Paul, his last Campaign or his Organization?


In 1996 Paul and his campaign said the comments were taken out of Context* What context does I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.
fit in?

They didnt then deny he was responsible for them. Only in 2001 did it suddenly become the line that he didnt write them.



Congressman Ron Paul is attacked on a daily basis. He's openly made himself an enemy of the international banks and the Federal Reserve. If you disagree with the banksters, slams are always soon to follow. If your a Moonbat too......



* May 22, 1996 Dallas Morning News:

Dr. Ron Paul, a Republican congressional candidate from Texas, wrote in his political newsletter in 1992 that 95 percent of the black men in Washington, D.C., are "semi-criminal or entirely criminal."
He also wrote that black teenagers can be "unbelievably fleet of foot." [...]
Dr. Paul, who is running in Texas' 14th Congressional District, defended his writings in an interview Tuesday. He said they were being taken out of context.
"It's typical political demagoguery," he said. "If people are interested in my character ... come and talk to my neighbors." [...]
According to a Dallas Morning News review of documents circulating among Texas Democrats, Dr. Paul wrote in a 1992 issue of the Ron Paul Political Report: "If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet of foot they can be."
Dr. Paul, who served in Congress in the late 1970s and early 1980s, said Tuesday that he has produced the newsletter since 1985 and distributes it to an estimated 7,000 to 8,000 subscribers. A phone call to the newsletter's toll-free number was answered by his campaign staff. [...]


Dr. Paul denied suggestions that he was a racist and said he was not evoking stereotypes when he wrote the columns. He said they should be read and quoted in their entirety to avoid misrepresentation. [...]


"If someone challenges your character and takes the interpretation of the NAACP as proof of a man's character, what kind of a world do you live in?" Dr. Paul asked.
In the interview, he did not deny he made the statement about the swiftness of black men.
"If you try to catch someone that has stolen a purse from you, there is no chance to catch them," Dr. Paul said.
He also said the comment about black men in the nation's capital was made while writing about a 1992 study produced by the National Center on Incarceration and Alternatives, a criminal justice think tank based in Virginia.


Citing statistics from the study, Dr. Paul then concluded in his column: "Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."
"These aren't my figures," Dr. Paul said Tuesday. "That is the assumption you can gather from" the report.

May 23, 1996, Houston Chronicle:

A campaign spokesman for Paul said statements about the fear of black males mirror ****ouncements by black leaders such as the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who has decried the spread of urban crime.

May 23, 1996, Austin American-Statesman:

"Dr. Paul is being quoted out of context," [Paul spokesman Michael] Sullivan said. "It's like picking up War and Peace and reading the fourth paragraph on Page 481 and thinking you can understand what's going on."



Now the story is he didnt do it, funny he didnt say that in 96....

So which is it?

Dr. Ron Paul is either:

A). a Liar
B). a Incompetant
C). Both

[SilentType]

Learn from the past, but don't live there.

[kimujnr]

Learn from the past, but don't live there.

True dat, but also those who choose to forget history are destined to repeat it.

[Wimbly]

The most interesting thing to me here is that he doesn't sound the babbling, stuttering idiot that he seemed to be by the end of his presidency. It's amazing what the stress of that office does to people.

Thats because you weren't completely manipulated by a left wing propaganda media yet. At some point I'd think you guys would start to see a pattern when the media deals with non-left wing figures. They all get the exact same treatment.

[seraosha]

Thats because you weren't completely manipulated by a left wing propaganda media yet. At some point I'd think you guys would start to see a pattern when the media deals with non-left wing figures. They all get the exact same treatment.

Some worse than others...

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[JKD]

Not everything is some evil liberal mainstream media conspiracy. Unless the media has some sort of mind control device to make Bush and Palin say the things they say they do fine job of sounding stupid all on their own.

As for Bush of 2000, that's the candidate I voted for. Too bad that's not the president I got.