View Full Version : German city on lock-down during massive manhunt.
Macs.
11-30-2009, 11:17 AM
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Michael Heckhoff / Peter Michalski
Short story: Two inmates who have been in jail without the chance of being released, serving live long prison terms have escaped a prison in the town of Aachen and are on the run since 4 days. Both are armed with pistols, one of them is in for attempted murder, the other for murder. They hijacked different cars and people while travelling across Germany.
The whole area is on alert, thousands of police officers on duty, special police units on search 24/7 and helicopters in the air. One of the men was captured by a SEK already, the other, who is murderer is suspected somewhere in Bielefeld right now.
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Police said on Monday they narrowly missed nabbing escaped convict Peter Paul Michalski in Mülheim an der Ruhr early, but called on the dangerous criminal to give himself up before someone is harmed.
Authorities spotted the 46-year-old in the North Rhine-Westphalia city but lost track of him as he entered a high-rise building, they said. Michalski is believed to have been hiding out there, they added.
Police also found a bag full of clothing that belonged to the escapees in the city centre.
Michalski’s accomplice in the spectacular escape from a prison in Aachen on Thursday, Michael Heckhoff, 50, was captured in the same city by police on Sunday after witnesses reported seeing his getaway car.
So far the pair has forced five people to help them in their escape, and police believe there is nothing to stop Michalski from harming innocent bystanders while on the run.
“End your flight before people are hurt,” a public statement from Cologne police said.
On Sunday, police also arrested a prison guard on suspicion he helped in the escape of the two violent inmates from the maximum-security prison. The 40-year-old guard is suspected of having helped the men get through locked areas and providing them with loaded prison service weapons as well as ammunition, according to statement by the state of North Rhine-Westphalia.
The two had been serving life sentences for murder and attempted murder. http://www.thelocal.de/national/20091130-23607.html
Steak-Sauce
11-30-2009, 12:01 PM
Hope they get him before he can harm anyone!
Glad to hear the police already captured one and the helping prison guard.
Thanks for posting.
variable
12-01-2009, 07:30 AM
Second escapee recaptured :)
Article states SEK officers took him down this morning.
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/0,1518,664492,00.html
tluassa
12-01-2009, 07:36 AM
Hehehehe :)
Yesterday over a hundered Policemen searched by backyard because somebody thought he might hide in Gütersloh ... directly in the forst bordering my house !!! Police-helicopter directly over my house ... dozends of policecars, and they closed down my whole district ...
Title in my local newspaper today: "M" - eine Stadt sucht einen Mörder :)
http://www.nw-news.de/owl/3267089_Eine_Stadt_sucht_einen_Moerder.html
Connaught Ranger
12-02-2009, 08:16 AM
Police knock escaped German killer off getaway bike
Yesterday, 04:09 pm
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Buzz Up!
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Germany's most wanted fugitive was captured Tuesday after a five-day manhunt, when police knocked the escaped murderer off the woman's bicycle he was riding along a rural road near the Dutch border.
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Peter Paul Michalski surrendered without a fight after an unmarked police car deliberately crashed into him, knocking him off the bicycle onto the grassy shoulder of the road.
The 46-year-old, who was serving a life sentence when he escaped from prison last week, was carrying a pistol.
Heavily armed police commandos had raided a number of buildings in the state of North Rhine-Westphalia searching for Michalski following his escape from a high-security prison in Aachen. An accomplice in the escape was captured Sunday.
They made a copy of a key inside the jail and simply unlocked several doors to escape, according to German media reports. They even stopped to wave good-bye to a security camera outside the front gate before getting into a taxi.
"Bad luck for you -- we just broke out of jail," the accomplice Michael Heckhoff was quoted telling the taxi driver in his testimony to police, according to a report in Bild newspaper Tuesday. "He said that was no problem for him."
Thousands of police were involved in the hunt and authorities in neighbouring countries were also alerted.
Police warned the public the two were extremely dangerous. They stole a car and robbed several people along their escape route through several western German towns and cities.
(Reporting by Erik Kirschbaum; editing by Jon Boyle)
Good to see this bastard caught, probably will attempt to sue the Police now for hitting him with a car.p-)
Macs.
12-02-2009, 11:59 AM
He won't have any luck with that, doubt he tries to sue.
The rest of the SEK apparently was disguised as construction workers.
dttk0009
12-03-2009, 01:06 AM
He won't have any luck with that, doubt he tries to sue.
The rest of the SEK apparently was disguised as construction workers.
That's awesome :D
What a swiftly and effectively carried out manhunt. Major props to all involved.
oldsoak
12-03-2009, 04:53 AM
Excellent ! Well done to the cops !
The man is a menace to society - back to cells !
variable
12-03-2009, 06:09 AM
Both now face charges of multiple felony crimes they commited on the run.
I wonder, does it make sense to even try them? Because they both got to serve life senteces without chance of parole anyway.
tluassa
12-03-2009, 11:55 AM
Both now face charges of multiple felony crimes they commited on the run.
I wonder, does it make sense to even try them? Because they both got to serve life senteces without chance of parole anyway.
This new trial is not about sense, but about upholding the German version of "law and order" (burocracy goes over sense and rationality here :) )
Both now face charges of multiple felony crimes they commited on the run.
I wonder, does it make sense to even try them? Because they both got to serve life senteces without chance of parole anyway.A life sentence without chance on early parole means 25 years in Germany. The bigger their record is, the longer their prison term will be.
thanamestolga
12-03-2009, 01:08 PM
Those two are beyond ****ed!
variable
12-03-2009, 11:18 PM
A life sentence without chance on early parole means 25 years in Germany. The bigger their record is, the longer their prison term will be.
But they also face Sicherungsverwahrung. So no early get-out.
oldsoak
12-04-2009, 07:07 AM
- please explain Sicherungsverwahrung to us who are not gifted in the German language :-)
Redox
12-04-2009, 07:13 AM
- please explain Sicherungsverwahrung to us who are not gifted in the German language :-)
In english its probably called preventive detention.
It means offenders that pose a threat to the public have to stay in prison even after the end of their official prison sentence.
Its especially used with *** offenders.
oldsoak
12-04-2009, 07:21 AM
Wow - sounds a great idea - how the heck do you guys manage that ? If we did that in the UK, you'd get screams of human rights etc - usually by people who dont have to face up to the consequences of what they ask for.
tluassa
12-04-2009, 07:46 PM
Wow - sounds a great idea - how the heck do you guys manage that ? If we did that in the UK, you'd get screams of human rights etc - usually by people who dont have to face up to the consequences of what they ask for.
Ohh the "Sicherheitsverwahrung" has quite a history in Germany, I give you a hint ... it was introduced in November 1933 ...
One of the German security laws that came off suprisingly unchanged after WW2 ... [ remember: this law was used to incarcerate enemies of the Nazi state for unlimited time !]
If I view it with my little cynical, lightly drunken Friday night attitude, I could say that it was a typical German compromise born out of necessity: Germany has abolished the Death penalty in the 60´s , but of course there will always be some serious cases of criminal intention, determination and perversion that have to be locked up for the Rest of their life ... so redefining Nazi Laws can come in quite handy when applied to *** offenders or crazy serial killers ... espcially when you just have to leave some paragraphs unchanged and adjust some others.
Kitsune
12-04-2009, 08:19 PM
Ohh the "Sicherheitsverwahrung" has quite a history in Germany, I give you a hint ... it was introduced in November 1933 ...
One of the German security laws that came off suprisingly unchanged after WW2 ... [ remember: this law was used to incarcerate enemies of the Nazi state for unlimited time !]
It think it is a bit misleading to present this as an evil nazi invention. The idea of "Sicherungsverwahrung" was not invented by the Nationalsocialists. The notion was older and there were attempts to create such an institution decades before 1933.
By the way, the German Democratic Republic rejected it, precisely because it had been introduced by the Nazis - but that did not keep them from incarcerating offenders, including political criminals, without end. Plus, they had the death penalty.
I think that in the present German system Sicherungsverwahrung makes quite some sense. We have no capital punishment, nor is there a possibility to punish somebody with truly lifelong imprisonment because our justice systems tries to give anybody a second chance. That, in my opinion, is as it should be. Given this, a possibility of preventive detention of convicted violent criminals who have served their time (I am not talking about detaining some normal people to prevent that they could commit a crime in the first place here) is needed for those cases in which a criminal does pose an ongoing threat because he is unrepenting or potentially violent.
Naturally, with this institution it is very important that the ciminals in question are subjected to a fair investigation to determine wether they really pose a danger and that they have the chance that such an investigations are repeated after some time. As it is, the system seems to work quite well.
tluassa
12-04-2009, 10:01 PM
It think it is a bit misleading to present this as an evil nazi invention. The idea of "Sicherungsverwahrung" was not invented by the Nationalsocialists. The notion was older and there were attempts to create such an institution decades before 1933.
By the way, the German Democratic Republic rejected it, precisely because it had been introduced by the Nazis - but that did not keep them from incarcerating offenders, including political criminals, without end. Plus, they had the death penalty.
"If I view it with my little cynical, lightly drunken Friday night attitude, I could say that it was a typical German compromise born out of necessity"
I think that in the present German system Sicherungsverwahrung makes quite some sense. We have no capital punishment, nor is there a possibility to punish somebody with truly lifelong imprisonment because our justice systems tries to give anybody a second chance. That, in my opinion, is as it should be. Given this, a possibility of preventive detention of convicted violent criminals who have served there time (I am not talking about detaining some normal people to prevent that they could committ a crime in the first place here) is needed for those cases in which a criminal does pose an ongoing threat because he is unrepenting or potentially violent.
"Germany has abolished the Death penalty in the 60´s , but of course there will always be some serious cases of criminal intention, determination and perversion that have to be locked up for the Rest of their life ..."
Naturally, with this institution it is very important that the ciminals in question are subjected to a fair investigation to determine wether they really pose a danger and that they have repeated chances that such an investigations are repeated after some years. As it is, the system seems to work quite well.
- No real argument here , and im aware German courts have reworked the Law after 1945 ...
Kitsune
12-05-2009, 11:42 AM
Alright, alright. I just said this because mentioning the Nazis usually causes alarm bells to ring in most minds.
tluassa
12-05-2009, 07:37 PM
Alright, alright. I just said this because mentioning the Nazis usually causes alarm bells to ring in most minds.
I gave a "voluntary" sample of my DNA to the Police some time Ago when they were mass sampling People in a local murder case, and I would have seriously fought against this had I had any suspicious feeling towards the German Police ...
Fuschimuschi
12-17-2009, 09:00 AM
The EU apparently doesn't like the "Sicherheitsverwahrung":
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/0,1518,667637,00.html
If I view it with my little cynical, lightly drunken Friday night attitude, I could say that it was a typical German compromise born out of necessity: Germany has abolished the Death penalty in the 60´s
West Germany, of course.
But still i thought it was abolished in 50 or 51, with the last beheading in 1949?!
(allied courts not counting)
Nothing to do with the manhunt, but today the european court of human rights has sentenced Germany to pay compensation to a convict on whole lifelong Sicherheitsverwahrung was retroactively applied.
The court saw it as a violation of reformatio in peius.
Apparently before the mid 1990s, Sicherheitsverwahrung was 10 years max.
Sicherheitsverwahrung is very commonly applied retroactively, mostly with RAF terrorists, for example Christian Klar.
It basically IS reformatio in peius, but the trick is that Sicherheitsverwahrung is NOT a court sentence but an executive measure. And reformatio in peius only applies to court decisions.
Maybe that workaround will have to cease now.
Re the death penalty, it was abolished with the west german constitution, but it still remaining in the hessian constitution and serveral others as some kind of a pointless leftover.
The last execution was 1949, I think and the convict had been sentenced before the constitution was in force.
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