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Ordie
12-03-2009, 08:21 PM
I came across this Chinese public opinion poll.

Interesting outcomes.


China and the world
Most Chinese people seemed relatively content with the
level of respect China receives from other countries. Sixty
per cent said either China receives more respect than it
deserves or about the right amount of respect.
Of nine possible threats, it was non-traditional threats
that most worried the Chinese people. ‘Environmental
issues like climate change’ and ‘water and food shortages’
topped the list with 76% and 67% respectively saying they
were a threat.
Fifty per cent of Chinese people said the United States posed
a threat to China’s security, while only a slim majority (51%)
said Japan did not pose a threat. Larger majorities said
India (60%), Russia (71%) and North Korea (81%) did not
pose a threat.
Of the five countries, the United States was considered the
greatest threat to China’s security by one third (34%) of
Chinese adults: only 14% said Japan and India posed the
greatest threat.
Of the 50% of Chinese people who said the United States
posed a threat to China’s security, most (77%) agreed
strongly or somewhat it was because it might seek to
restrain China’s growing influence in the world or (76%)
because it might support separatist elements in China. Most
other reasons tested also received similar but lower levels of
agreement.
Younger Chinese adults tended to be more likely than their
elders to say China was receiving less respect than it deserved
and that Japan and the United States posed a threat.

Source


http://www.lowyinstitute.org/Publication.asp?pid=1193

budgie
12-04-2009, 03:41 AM
Japan a threat to China? Pffft. The govt propaganda has Chinese people nicely fooled that traditional enemies like the US and Japan will come after them. The only attention they give to separatist movements is the possibility the US may encourage them. I think they have it ass-backwards: the growing Islamist discontent in China's west is bay far the biggest problem they'll face over the next few years. The second is continuing to shelter that basket case North Korea, which was also way down on their list of 'fears'.

Eventine
12-04-2009, 09:43 AM
Does anyone really think that the Islamists are going to take over the world? I think I detect a similar government-encouraged paranoia among Americans. Yes, the terrorists are a great threat to peace and stability, but they cannot, by themselves, usurp powerful states where the dominant population is non-Muslim. China has never been invaded from the Tarim Basin, or by Muslims. I don't think they see the far west as an existential problem. At most, the Uyghurs take over western Xinjiang and declare a new republic. But even to do this, from beneath the thumb of the PLA, requires a lot of foreign support. It is this "foreign support" that China rightfully worries about.

As for Japan... I think it's hard to say. Didn't Friedman from Stratfor write that Japan will embark on a grand new adventure in China post-2020?

gaijinsamurai
12-04-2009, 10:50 AM
Does anyone really think that the Islamists are going to take over the world? I think I detect a similar government-encouraged paranoia among Americans. Yes, the terrorists are a great threat to peace and stability, but they cannot, by themselves, usurp powerful states where the dominant population is non-Muslim. China has never been invaded from the Tarim Basin, or by Muslims. I don't think they see the far west as an existential problem. At most, the Uyghurs take over western Xinjiang and declare a new republic. But even to do this, from beneath the thumb of the PLA, requires a lot of foreign support. It is this "foreign support" that China rightfully worries about.

As for Japan... I think it's hard to say. Didn't Friedman from Stratfor write that Japan will embark on a grand new adventure in China post-2020?

I don't think Budgie was suggesting anything like a Muslim takeover of China, but rather threats to the national cohesion of the country in areas which are largely populated by non-Han Chinese, such as the Muslem areas and Tibet. Give one area independence, and it weakens the claim to others. India knows all about that issue as well, as is evidenced in Kashmir.

As far as "Friedman" (Thomas?) predicting that Japan will try to invade China again in a decade or two, that is absurd.

Eventine
12-04-2009, 12:46 PM
As far as "Friedman" (Thomas?) predicting that Japan will try to invade China again in a decade or two, that is absurd.

It's George.

Ordie
12-04-2009, 12:51 PM
According to the poll, the majority of Chinese considers environmental degredation and poor water quality as the greatest threat to Chinese security over external threats.

This is the stuff that keeps the CCP awake at night. For they fear the Chinese more than any other group of people or country.

Hongjian
12-04-2009, 01:24 PM
According to the poll, the majority of Chinese considers environmental degredation and poor water quality as the greatest threat to Chinese security over external threats.

This is the stuff that keeps the CCP awake at night. For they fear the Chinese more than any other group of people or country.



When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.

Thomas Jefferson (1743–1826)

Yay! Never knew that we are actually liberal!!! p-)

It seems to work both ways in China...

Laworkerbee
12-04-2009, 04:25 PM
This is the stuff that keeps the CCP awake at night. For they fear the Chinese more than any other group of people or country.

X2

Four legs good, two legs baaaaaaaaaaaad.

MaverickCowboy
12-04-2009, 04:26 PM
The Americans are going to Annex China. Lol.

Kilgor
12-04-2009, 06:16 PM
The foresting of hatred towards another power, America, Japan, Eurasia will only go so far. The Chi Coms know that they must provide a continuous rise in living standard, or their legitimacy will be in doubt.

With the current rate of pollution and access to resources, this won't be sustainable.

ramiel
12-05-2009, 08:28 AM
Rofl for every Ordie's thread...It could become my daily fun here. Oh,I notice it's the "xxx and Rants" board,never mind.